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Title: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Rogan on April 02, 2017, 08:42:23 PM
Well, Ugly Betty's out of the starting blocks here way west of Down Under - why do I grow something so ugly? Probably just because I can - one of my 'friends' asked me recently why I don't pull it out and burn it!  ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: ArnoldT on April 02, 2017, 09:14:55 PM
What did that Shakespeare guy say, no not the Leicester City Coach the other Shakespeare say something about the "eye of the beholder"
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Jupiter on April 02, 2017, 10:05:15 PM

From seed to bloom in two years! I'm pretty happy with that. I had this labelled as N. obsoletus but Rafa has identified it for me as Narc. deficiens.

Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on April 03, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
What did that Shakespeare guy say, no not the Leicester City Coach the other Shakespeare say something about the "eye of the beholder"

 I prefer the  paraphrase used by the  inimitable Miss Piggy - "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." ;D ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Gail on April 03, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
Well, Ugly Betty's out of the starting blocks here way west of Down Under - why do I grow something so ugly? Probably just because I can - one of my 'friends' asked me recently why I don't pull it out and burn it!  ::) ;) ;D
But the scent Rogan. Isn't that the main attraction? Although actually I like jade green and starry and autumn flowering...
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Jupiter on April 03, 2017, 09:48:36 PM

Three out of six precious seeds of N. viridiflorus germinated and were trying to sink themselves deeper into the pot. Now carefully repotted and waiting for autumn rain.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Rogan on April 04, 2017, 06:34:19 PM
Very precious, Jamus - good luck with those (just don't let my 'friend' near!)  ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Gail on April 10, 2017, 08:59:21 PM
Anyone any idea what this one is - 12-15" tall, flowers to 3" across, open with a yellow cup developing to pinky-peach supplied by Sarah Raven as 'Keats' which it definitely isn't. And as an aside, anyone know where I can get true 'Keats'?
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 10, 2017, 11:28:19 PM
Ah! So it's not just me. I bought these too and was disappointed with what came up. Shame on Ms. Raven!
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 10, 2017, 11:32:06 PM
It was registered by Lady Skelmersdale of Broadleigh Gardens, so maybe they sell it
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Gail on April 11, 2017, 06:38:53 AM
It was registered by Lady Skelmersdale of Broadleigh Gardens, so maybe they sell it
Thanks - I've just emailed them to see.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Gail on April 11, 2017, 06:44:55 AM
Ah! So it's not just me. I bought these too and was disappointed with what came up. Shame on Ms. Raven!
Anemone nemorosa 'Marts Blue' as supplied by Paul Christian on left compared with Anemone x lipsiensis as supplied by Raven on right (have not emerged...)
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Gail on April 11, 2017, 07:16:45 AM
Thanks - I've just emailed them to see.
Wow, very speedy response from Broadleigh, although not promising;
"Thank you for your enquiry. We sold off all our non miniatures last autumn I am afraid and no longer grow Keats. I will keep an eye out among the varieties scattered round the garden but i don't think I have any left.
Kind regards"
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Roma on April 11, 2017, 12:25:30 PM
No.  I wasn't in Holland on Sunday.  These fields of narcissus are in Scotland, between Fettercairn and Laurencekirk.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Roma on April 11, 2017, 12:34:15 PM
Narcissus 'Red Hackle', an old Brodie of Brodie variety.  A good doer and increases well'
Narcissus 'Rip van Winkle'  I had it in a pot and it was looking a bit unhealthy so I threw away the bulbs into long grass at the edge of the wood.  Two flowers this year and lots of healthy looking foliage.
Narcissus bulbocodium seeding around
An attractive white seedling.  Likely parents are 'Roseworthy'  which is a prolific seeder. ( I am careful to dead head it now) and 'Empress of Ireland' or 'Mount Hood'
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Matt T on April 11, 2017, 04:56:15 PM
No.  I wasn't in Holland on Sunday.  These fields of narcissus are in Scotland, between Fettercairn and Laurencekirk.

What a fantastic sight, Roma!
I also very much like your Red Hackle. Lovely pics and even better in the 'flesh' when you brought it at Nairn last year.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 12, 2017, 12:52:49 AM
Short Droopy white daffodil in a peat bed sort of opened today.
Narcissus alpestris 
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Giles on April 14, 2017, 10:44:34 AM
I think these were a subspecies of poeticus.....
Anyone going to the daffodil show tomorrow?
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on April 14, 2017, 11:48:07 AM
Which daffodil show, Giles?

There's one at Dundee - Boomerang Centre, 10 Kemback St., Dundee, DD4 6ET
Saturday 15th April 2017 1.00 to 4.30pm
Sunday 16th April 2017 12.00 to 3.30pm
I know a good number of the Caley ( Royal Caledonian Hort. Soc. ) folks will be there.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 14, 2017, 02:04:29 PM
These Narcissus were raised from AGS Seedex 2011 (#336C - wild collected)  as N. miniatus. 6 were planted in this bed and it looks like all will flower this autumn.
I had re-labelled them as N. obsoletus but after Jamus' comment about his, I wonder what it should be called?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Giles on April 15, 2017, 04:53:56 PM
Which daffodil show, Giles? 

The Daffodil Society Show, Coughton Court, Warwickshire. 15-16th April
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Giles on April 15, 2017, 07:46:03 PM
..some different forms of poeticus..
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: Gerdk on April 16, 2017, 10:53:31 AM
Some species - grown inside

1. tricky N. gaditanus (Needs a dry and warm rest)
2. N. triandrus
3. N. watieri
4. N. x matritensis
5. N. x susannae

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2017
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 18, 2017, 01:10:26 AM
These Narcissus were raised from AGS Seedex 2011 (#336C - wild collected)  as N. miniatus. 6 were planted in this bed and it looks like all will flower this autumn.
I had re-labelled them as N. obsoletus but after Jamus' comment about his, I wonder what it should be called?

Diane has sent me some more info: "seed collected at Coripe, Sevilla, Spain....The name has now gone into N. obsoletus, but Rafa might be able to give you more information on this population."
Here are a few more pics
cheers
fermi
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