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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Yann on February 04, 2017, 05:57:49 PM
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First tulip of the year and not the the ugliest ones :)
Tulipa biebersteiniana
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First tulip of the year and not the the ugliest ones :)
Tulipa biebersteiniana
Wow, so early!
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Many of my tulips are in buds!
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The shape and color are very similar to Tulipa sylvestris. In any case, in photo.
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Except maybe the inside? Is it different from this one?
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These photos are from April 2016 in my garden. Not this year.
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biebersteiniana is synonymous of sylvestris.
However the eastern europe and KZ forms are always brown-green and 20-25cm max height. Those sylvestris from western europe are 25-40cm. I grow 9 differents forms of sylvestris and height is always a determining caracteristic.
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Thank you for these details Yann, I thought there was a resemblance to what I know. On the other hand, I did not know that there were so many different forms.
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I'll be excused to intervene here Yann although I don't know much about Tulipa in general.
Only because I got few seeds of a Tulipa scythica had to do a bit of research about the species. It seems Tulipa biebersteiniana Schult. & Schult.f. is the name applied for eastern forms with distribution in European part of Russia to Anatolia (syn. T. scythica and T. graniticola).
Tulipa sylvestris is kept as a different species. But I will leave you to do more research about this :D ;)
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Gabriela, that's exactly what you've explained.
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First tulip of the year and not the the ugliest ones :)
Tulipa biebersteiniana
Have you put it on the stove for a couple of months, Yann ?? :o :o :o Very nice anyway !
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:+)) nope just under glass
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Tulipa orithyioides, such a cutie
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Yours are so early! Nothing happening here.
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Tulipa turkestanica
The third photo is an attempt to show how this tulip can produce 2 or 3 flowers per stem
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Tulipa binutans, the lack of sun doesn't help at all >:(
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I wondered if anyone could help id these Tulips for me. These pictures were taken last year.
I was given them by a dear friend a few years ago. All she could tell me was that they were very old varieties.
many thanks
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I wondered if anyone could help id these Tulips for me. These pictures were taken last year.
I was given them by a dear friend a few years ago. All she could tell me was that they were very old varieties.
many thanks
The size of the plant, that of the flower are important to know who it is. In addition, image of the foliage too.
There are thousands of cultivars of cultivated tulips, it may be difficult to give it its name ... ;)
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Hi Cheryl,
have a look at : http://www.tulipsociety.co.uk/ (http://www.tulipsociety.co.uk/)
cheers
fermi
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http://www.vintagetulips.narod.ru/ (http://www.vintagetulips.narod.ru/) and http://www.thetulipgallery.com/home (http://www.thetulipgallery.com/home) are two sites which may be of help - or at least, interest, to you, Cheryl
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Tulipa regelii, one of the most desirable
Tulipa montana
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How do you get these in flower this early?
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Don't know :) all are grown in the greenhouse and i've the same amount of sun (sorry lack of...) as you Ralph
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Tulipa regelii, one of the most desirable
Tulipa montana
I agree about T. regelii; fantastic leaf on that one. But T. montana is also lovely.
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Tulipa lemmersii.
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another nice one, mine is in bud....can't be the earliest each time ;D
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another nice one, mine is in bud....can't be the earliest each time ;D
patience is a virtue...and you're the earliest often enough ;)
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T. polychroma
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Tulipa hissarica 'Hodji-Obi-Garm'
and Tulipa turkestanica
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Don't know :) all are grown in the greenhouse and i've the same amount of sun (sorry lack of...) as you Ralph
The greenhouse is the answer. Mine are all outside.
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Tulipa lemmersii, i had hot temperatures in the greenhouse it quickly faded :'(
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My first ones of the season: Amana (Tulipa) edulis, very late this year, and Tulipa biflora.
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A couple more opened today: Tulipa aff. turkestanica, from friends in Denmark, and Tulipa 'Ancilla'.
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Superbe Ralph! edulis is :o
back to home after a week away, i've found some tulips rewarded by the sunshine.
Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Sergey Jesenin', note the slugs pellets :P
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Here is Amana edulis once again - quite happy in a bed of pure sand
Gerd
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Tulipa sylvestris will soon flourish in the greenhouse. Outside, the pushes are still timid.
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Here is Amana edulis once again - quite happy in a bed of pure sand
Gerd
Fantastic Gerd, if the bees are as busy as here there has to be many seeds. And if there is some left I am very interested.
My first tulip opened today.
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Here is Amana edulis once again - quite happy in a bed of pure sand
Gerd
A very natural looking setting, Gerd ! Super.
Here are my earliest from a couple of days ago :
Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Nessy'
Tulipa neustruevae
Tulipa subbiflora with cyclamen coum for companian in the background.
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Thank you Luc!
Congratulations for your Tulipa neustruevae (what a name) - I guess I have to wait about
a week for flowers on my plants.
Gerd
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Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Burning Heart'
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Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Burning Heart'
Quite an apt name; it looks like it is on fire!
cheers
fermi
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Quite an apt name; it looks like it is on fire!
cheers
fermi
And once more: Tulipa x kaufmanniana' Burning Heart'...and one who is quite similar: Tulipa x fosteriana 'Dance'
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And Tulipa schrenkii.
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Great, simple form and cheap bulbs but so beautiful.
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Great, simple form and cheap bulbs but so beautiful.
Yeah, beauty in plants isn't expressed in $$$ ;)
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Tulipa doerfleri, grown in a 40cm long tom pot.
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Like the green and red combination in the flower, Yann !
T. sogdiana is a very small and humble tulip, but I like it.
Tulipa dasystemon ex Hort. - I've been told it's not the real thing though... ???
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A lost label pot of Tulips the leaves of which have proved most enjoyable by the local snails!
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Tulipa lehmanniana from Turkmenistan, and Tulipa kaufmanniana ARJA 9748.
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From garden today.
Peter Taggart's bulbs :)
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Tulipa vvedenskyi 'Apricot Pearl', the wind is so strong i wasn't able to shoot many plants.
Tulipa turkestanica, left srgc seeds ex, Janis bulbs
Tulipa cretica, psiloritis
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Very elegant tulips Yann.
Can you identify my tulips?. Their name is written on pods which are buried so I cannot read them.
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BRIGHT red
Tulipa subpraestans
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Arda they look like Tulipa orithyoides
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Thanks Yann.
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Two forms of Tulipa lehmanniana, from Turkmenistan and from Tajikistan (and both from Kurt Vickery!).
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Tulipa ophyophylla from Janis, and Tulipa tarda, the widely available horticultural form.
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Tulipa lemmersii, Tulipa humilis 'China Coral' and Tulipa hissarica.
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wonderful ralph, my lemmersii is making seeds ;)
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You have a wonderful collection of Tulips Ralph.
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Thank you David.
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Tulipa cretica 'Archanes'
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Tulipa raddii
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Tulipa agenensis
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Tulipa clusiana
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Tulipa sylvestris sylvestris
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some nice neo tulips, radii is always a pleasure to meet in the wild.
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Tulipa aitchisonii var. clusianoides.
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radii is always a pleasure to meet in the wild.
That's new to me. Anyone got a spare bulb?
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Maybe you know it with its old name : Tulipa raddii was known as Tulipa praecox.
It's spreading with drageons (so, it gives lots of bulbs) and usualy it is not very floriferous.
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Ralph "ring me" end of August, i'll give you bulbs at the autumn show ;)
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Tulipa sp.
from garden.
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Tulipa neustruevae
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Tulipa aitchinsonii var. clusianoides
Tulipa clusiana 'Peppermint Stick'
Tulipa grey-wilsonii
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Tulipa grey-wilsonii is considered to be a synonym of T. clusiana, but that doesn't look like T. clusiana.
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Tulipa grey-wilsonii is considered to be a synonym of T. clusiana, but that doesn't look like T. clusiana.
Now that you mention it, I looked it up and mine does look more like Tulipa linifolia. Does anyone have the orignal description from the Flora Iranica?
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Here's Tulipa clusiana var. chrysantha.
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Tulipa fosteriana and Tulipa greigii.
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Tulipa montana var. chrysantha and Tulipa clusiana f. cashmeriana.
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Tulipa montana KV61 and Tulipa tschimganica.
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Tulipa aff. ferganica CPRO 087136 and Tulipa kaufmanniana ARJA 9748
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All looking good Ralph.
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Tulipa ostrowskiana, Tulipa species KV89, Tulipa doerfleri.
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while cleaning the garden i lookep up and my eyes where catched by the colors of Tulipa rubidosa.
A green one: Tulipa viridiflora 'Meza Skaistule'
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The Wakefield and North of England Tulip Society show is coming soon .......
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After I had dared to plant Tulipa cretica outside in autumn 2016 I now was rewarded with
very compact flowers. No problems with hardiness to my surprise.
Gerd
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It is also hardy hear and I have it outside for many years
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Thank you Stefan!
Good to know that outdoor cultivation is possible. I did not expect it because I found
the species at low elevations close to the sea.
Gerd
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I have only seen them in higher altitudes.
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Lovely photo Stefan.
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Tulipa ferganica
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Tulipa cypria (not the darkest one unfortunately) and Tulipa armena - own selection
Gerd
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I wish I had T. cypria!
Here's Tulipa anadroma, Tulipa karabachensis, Tulipa butkowii and Tulipa armena RRW05124
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Friend has sent me a link to this site for images of wild tulips; if you haven't come across it before, it is well worth a look.
http://www.tulipsinthewild.com/pages/page1.html (http://www.tulipsinthewild.com/pages/page1.html)
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My Rembrandt Tulips are flowering:
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They resemble the Tulips on a painting by Rembrandt: https://www.tripadvisor.de/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g188590-d189379-i60406937-Rijksmuseum-Amsterdam_North_Holland_Province.html#60406937 (https://www.tripadvisor.de/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g188590-d189379-i60406937-Rijksmuseum-Amsterdam_North_Holland_Province.html#60406937)
Dieses Foto von Rijksmuseum Amsterdam wurde von TripAdvisor zur Verfügung gestellt
As far as I was told the pattern is not a result of a breeding, but the bulbs are infected by a special virus. The disease makes the pattern. The result is, that every flower is different from another. But because these plants are sick, they do only live for a few years.
Hannelore
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As far as I was told the pattern is not a result of a breeding, but the bulbs are infected by a special virus. The disease makes the pattern. The result is, that every flower is different from another. But because these plants are sick, they do only live for a few years.
They are virused indeed. Keep them away from other bulbs cause the virus can be passed on to other plants very easily, by touch (humans or animals) or by vectors (aphids,...) and most other plants will not respond so well to being infected. They do grow and multiply very well, though... they are multiplied by growing side bulbs to flowering size....I've got 10 pots full of different Rembrandts (kept well apart and treated with a systemic pesticide) and every year I have more and more bulbs. Your cultivar is 'Absalon', by the way!
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Two Rembrandts in my garden:
Tulipa 'Black and White'
and Tulipa 'Mabel'
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They are virused indeed. Keep them away from other bulbs cause the virus can be passed on to other plants very easily, by touch (humans or animals) or by vectors (aphids,...) and most other plants will not respond so well to being infected.
Too late. They stand in the middle of many other perennial and bulbous plants. I'll see what will happen. 8)
Thank you for your advice.
Groetjes
Hannelore
P.S. Misschien krijg ik dann gestreepte narcissen of margrieten :)
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Too late. They stand in the middle of many other perennial and bulbous plants. I'll see what will happen. 8)
Thank you for your advice.
Groetjes
Hannelore
P.S. Misschien krijg ik dann gestreepte narcissen of margrieten :)
Damn, virus can infect and kill a lot of plants, or make them completely deformed.
Je spreekt Nederlands?
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Damn, virus can infect and kill a lot of plants, or make them completely deformed.
I said already: It will give me the chance to plant something new. Usually there is never enough space for all the wonderful things you see at Hessenhof.nl or other interesting places.
My mother used to plant Rembrandt tulips and parrot tulips more than 60 years ago and she had them always in her flower beds surrounded by all the other flowers. I've never heard that it did harm to any plant. Let's wait and see.
Je spreekt Nederlands?
My husband is Groninger. I can read and understand it. When speaking my accent is horrible.
Groetjes
Hannelore
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I said already: It will give me the chance to plant something new. Usually there is never enough space for all the wonderful things you see at Hessenhof.nl or other interesting places.
My mother used to plant Rembrandt tulips and parrot tulips more than 60 years ago and she had them always in her flower beds surrounded by all the other flowers. I've never heard that it did harm to any plant. Let's wait and see.
My husband is Groninger. I can read and understand it. When speaking my accent is horrible.
Groetjes
Hannelore
No worries then, you'll see what happens, it might be in the open garden they don't live very long, mine are lifted from their pots every year and stored dry during summer.
De hessenhof does sell exquisite beauties, indeed!
Groninger, way up in the north...you write Dutch very well.
Groetjes
Wim
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Tulipa platystigma. Virus?
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Tulipa platystigma. Virus?
Most probable...Mine looked virused this year too, I threw them away!
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Resistance to important antifungal drugs (azoles) may be spread by trade in tulip & narcissus bulbs (summary (https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/deadly-flower-power-imported-tulip-bulbs-may-spread-anti-fungal-resistance/7841)).
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Anyone interested in going to Uzbekistan next year for tulips (and alpines)? I know the AGS trips, whilst good, can be a little too expensive for some budgets. Therefore how about a trip at just $100 per day (all inclusive for land costs) -
Day 01 - Arrival in Tashkent airport. Transfer to the hotel and accommodation. Overnight in Tashkent
Day 02 - Tashkent – the Nurata mountains. Early transfer (7:00 a.m.) to the Nurata mountains (280 km). Tulipa korolkovii, Tulipa affinis, Tulipa turkestanica and possibly Tulipa micheliana here too, as they finish blossoming at the end of March. Overnight, guest house in Asraf village.
Day 03 - The Nurata mountains - Samarkand. Continuation of botanic tour in the foothills of the Nurata ridge. Transfer to Samarkand (160 km). Overnight in Samarkand.
Day 04 - Samarkand. A day of culture and sightseeing as this might be your only trip to this part of the world. Visit spectacular Registan Square, remains of Bibi-Khanum Mosque, Siyob Bazaar, Shakhi-Zinda Necropolis and Gur-Emir Mausoleum – authentic shrine of Tamerlane. Ulugbek Observatory, Afrosiab Museum. Overnight in Samarkand.
Day 05 - Samarkand – Kitab. Transfer over Takhtakaracha mountain pass to Kitab State Geological Reserve. Tulipa fosteriana, Tulipa turkestanica, Tulipa korolkovii, Tulipa ingens. Overnight in Shakhrisabz.
Day 06 - Shakhrisabz – Katta-Lyangar. Transfer to Katta-Lyangar village. (60 km)
Huge colonies of Tulipa lanata, Tulipa turkestanika, Tulipa micheliana, and Tulipa nitida.
Overnight in Katta-Lyangar.
Day 07 - Katta-Lyangar – Boisun. After breakfast transfer to Boisun (150 km).
This area is rich in tulip species as Tulipa korolkovii, Tulipa lanata, Tulipa tubergeniana.
Overnight in Boisun.
Day 08 - Boisun – Termez - Tashkent Transfer to Termez (140 km)..
Aftenoon flight to Tashkent. Overnight in Tashkent.
Day 09 - Tashkent – Beldersay. Transfer to Beldersay in the Chimgan mountains (150 km).
Tulipa kaufmanniana, Tulipa xtschimganica, Tulipa greigii, Tulipa bifloriformis, Tulipa dubia.
Overnight in Beldersay.
Day 10 - Beldersay – Kyzylsu – Tashkent. The Kyzylsu riverbed for Tulipa kaufmanniana, Tulipa xtschimganica, Tulipa greigii, Tulipa bifloriformis, Tulipa dubia. Overnight in Tashkent.
Day 11 - Tashkent - departure Transfer to the airport and flight home or you may wish to extend trip for private exploration
The whole tour will be accompanied by an English speaking guide and a professional botanist. Everything is included in the price (transfers, accommodation, all meals, entrance fees) except International Airfares; Domestic Flight Termez - Tashkent approx 115 $ p/p (obviously always subject to change); Tourist Visa; Camera and Video charges during sightseeing (when required); Alcohol Drinks.
Total price $1143 if 6 travel
Total price $1043 if 8 travel
If you are interested - no commitment - let me know by private email and I'll supply more details. I'm not on commission and will pay the same as everyone else ! I'm just trying to ascertain interest and then if sufficient the tour is viable. Dates not yet finalised but will be within the first three weeks of April.
Frazer
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Sounds great, Frazer - hope there is a good response.
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Tulip tour to Uzbekistan 2018
Thanks Maggi.
I should have said in my post that the likely date for the tour is 13 April 2018
Frazer
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Latest tulip to flower
Tulipa sprengeri
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Tulip tour to Uzbekistan 2018
Thanks Maggi.
I should have said in my post that the likely date for the tour is 13 April 2018
Frazer
Just to confirm tour date confirmed 13 April in Uzbekistan and head for Nurata hills on 14 April.
See here (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=15093.msg377977#msg377977) for tour details. There are just few spaces available - please email me if interested.
(edit by maggi to add link to tour details)
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Tulipa kaufmanniana 'The First'
growing in a rather neglected part of the rock garden -hasty weeding needed to uncover the flowers!
cheers
fermi
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Great tulip Fermi.
Nice to see spring flowers from other half of the world :)
Cheers
Arda
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Arda,
it's always nice to see what is flowering in the other hemisphere ;D
Here's the tulips this morning before they open up - nicely marked on the exterior,
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa bakeri (now Tulipa saxatilis "Bakeri Group" or something!)
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa clusiana ex 'Tinka' grown from SRGC Seedex 2007.
First flowering and appear to be consistently dwarf with clear yellow and reddish exterior.
Can't be named 'Tinka' as it from seed - but is it distinct enough to name? 'Thylacine'? ;)
cheers
fermi
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Some of the other seedlings raised from 'Tinka' are a bit paler
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa saxatilis is now flowering by our rock steps (they are Steppe plants aren't they? ;D )
cheers
fermi
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Groaning here :P :P :P ;) ;D
Omalos, Crete in mid-April:
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Great tulips, Fermi !!! :o
Groaning here :P :P :P ;) ;D
Omalos, Crete in mid-April:
Wonderful images Ashley ! Did you get your feet wet ?? ;D
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In IRG September 2017 : the description of a new Tulipa species by J.J. de Groot and K.S. Tojibaev - Tulipa zonneveldii - named for Ben Zonneveld
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and there's more, of course.....
...... Jan Tholhuijsen encourages another new project for the garden .....Zdenek Zvolanek praises fabaceae for the garden and Kenton J. Seth reviews a book on Cactus........ the IRG is free to download here...
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2017Sep281506621414IRG93.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2017Sep281506621414IRG93.pdf)
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Groaning here :P :P :P ;) ;D
I don't know what you have to groan about, Ashley, when you got to see them in the wild ;D.
Tulipa stapfii is now flowering; numbers increasing nicely from a single bulb planted a few years ago,
cheers
fermi
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Fermi it looks like your tulips like your soil and climate, the foliage is perfect no sign of deseases.
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Yann,
I don't show pics of the slug-ravaged foliage! ;D
Here is Tulipa clusiana 'Lady Jane' which I got from David Glenn at Lambley Nursery - presumably he was able to import the authentic plant,
cheers
fermi
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Beautiful clusiana Fermi; surely one of the most elegant tulips.
Often I've admired how your more 'mediterranean' conditions suit bulb-growing, so didn't expect that you'd have to struggle with slugs. Here, especially at night, they remind me of vast wildebeest herds from wildlife documentaries about the Serengeti ::) ;D
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How does one tell the difference between Tulipa dasystemon and Tulipa tarda? Some commercial bulbs available in Canada are listed as 'Tulipa dasystemon tarda' just to add to the confusion. Is there a difference?
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Hello Gordon
There is not much chance that you can buy real T. dasystemon, only a few specialist Eastern European nurseries sells real T. dasystemon.
The tulip in common sold as T. dasystemon is a form of T. neustrueva, this is an early flowering tulip, mostly single flowered and with plain yellow flowers on a stem without hairs. T. tarda is multi flowered up to fife flowers on a stem, yellow with white tips on the tepals, and hairy stems. T. dasystemon tarda is a fake name, it are two different species.
greetings
Sjaak de Groot
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Thank you Sjaak, I assume then that I have Tulipa tarda, since my plants have multiple flowers, the floral segments are yellow with white tips.
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Beautiful clusiana Fermi; surely one of the most elegant tulips.
Often I've admired how your more 'mediterranean' conditions suit bulb-growing, so didn't expect that you'd have to struggle with slugs.
Hi Ashley,
I was also surprised by the presence of slugs but we do use a lot of organic mulches which provide adequate hiding places for them. Strangely we don't have a lot of snails!
Another type of the Lady Tulip is Tulipa clusiana var chrysantha 'Tubergen's gem'
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa vvedenskyi 'Tangerine Dream'
cheers
fermi
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nice ones Fermi.