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Title: Gymnospermium
Post by: Yann on January 29, 2017, 01:15:28 PM
Gymnospermium albertii has started to emerge
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Gabriela on January 29, 2017, 03:43:12 PM
Gymnospermium are so interesting species; so rare unfortunately :-\

Please post an image with the fruits/seeds if it forms any. I am very curious to see - is said to have the same behaviour like Caulophyllum - the fruit burst open and actually develops naked seeds.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: sokol on February 27, 2017, 05:43:57 AM
I did not see any seed last year Gabriela but I will observe it this year.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Gabriela on February 27, 2017, 06:32:30 PM
I did not see any seed last year Gabriela but I will observe it this year.

Thank you very much Stefan. That would be great!
There might be a self-incompatibility problem, but I didn't find anything about this subject.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: sokol on February 28, 2017, 08:45:15 AM
I have a second species that will come into flower soon but unfortunately also just one flowering plant. I will try to pollinate both.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: sokol on March 05, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
Here is the seedling that came into flower after three years after sawing. But to be honest just one of about twenty.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2017, 09:03:24 PM
The colours are pleasing, aren't they?
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Gabriela on March 05, 2017, 10:15:01 PM
Here is the seedling that came into flower after three years after sawing. But to be honest just one of about twenty.

Stefan, considering their relation with Caulophyllum/ naked seeds/moist storage, you've been lucky to obtain even one plant! It is beautiful.
I also found out Gymnospermium seeds are arillate, seen on fresh seeds of course; with difficulty I found a picture - see the link and scroll almost to the end of the article.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273143787_Reports_5-8_-_In_Vladimirov_V_Dane_F_Matevski_V_Tan_K_eds_New_floristic_records_in_the_Balkans_5 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273143787_Reports_5-8_-_In_Vladimirov_V_Dane_F_Matevski_V_Tan_K_eds_New_floristic_records_in_the_Balkans_5)
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Yann on March 05, 2017, 10:33:10 PM
yes getting fresh seeds can be a challenge, but after 3-4 years you're rewarded
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: sokol on March 06, 2017, 05:29:50 AM
So I am waiting for the next years, when hopefully the smaller plants will flower and I can pollinate them. Gabriela, I was lucky to get about 20 seedlings of 4 different species and just the first is flowering now.

Maybe I'll try to cross pollinate my two species this week.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Gabriela on March 06, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
Then it's not too bad Stefan. I thought you obtained only one plant from 20 seeds ::)
Would you mind sharing the seeds source, you can pm/email - thanks.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: sokol on April 25, 2017, 11:00:08 AM
Neither self pollinating nor cross pollinating of my two plants was successful. So I will get no seeds this year.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Gabriela on April 25, 2017, 08:10:54 PM
Neither self pollinating nor cross pollinating of my two plants was successful. So I will get no seeds this year.
Thanks for trying Stefan, who knows what the problem may be. At least I've seen them in the article pictures.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: sokol on September 26, 2017, 10:39:22 AM
Maybe I will have more than one flowering plant of Gymnospermium sylvaticum next year to get some seeds.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: Gabriela on September 29, 2017, 10:29:40 PM
Maybe I will have more than one flowering plant of Gymnospermium sylvaticum next year to get some seeds.

I am looking fwd to them Stefan! :)
Thanks for showing the tubers, I've also never seen how they look. I contacted him but didn't answer and gave up, but got few seeds of G. altaicum from a friend. I took pictures and will show later; the arils were already dry of course but anyway they satisfied my curiosity.
Title: Re: Gymnospermium
Post by: sokol on March 05, 2018, 10:13:15 AM
I have just spotted the same two plants as last year with flowers till now.

Gymnospermium darwasicum

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