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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: YT on January 13, 2017, 03:17:49 PM
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Colchicum falcifolium and Colchicum hirsutum :)
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apparently Wurmbea stricta is a colchicum relative from South Africa that enjoys damp peaty soil while in growth.
i have posted this elsewhere but thought it interesting compare to the regular colchicums.
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=15030.msg369719#msg369719 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=15030.msg369719#msg369719)
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Colchicum falcifolium, again
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Colchicum szovitsii
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/282/31744823343_934ed5938c_o_d.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/447/31744823633_b2cec828c6_o_d.jpg)
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Colchicum szovitsii bring some sunshine during this dark day.
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Colchicum kesselringii ‘My Choice’
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Colchicum kesselringii ‘My Choice’
Probably it would be one of my choice Tatsuo, if I could grow these splendid beauties.
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The first Colchicum are flowering here in the garden. They are the first flowers this years, earlier than Galanthus and Crocus. As it is still rather cold, they don't open their flowers well.
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I love this nice Merendera
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Next two are starting to flower. One is from a bulb that escaped from a pot that I have re-potted last year. Till now I don't know what it is.
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They are better today with full sun and higher temperatures than before.
Colchicum doerfleri ex Elassona 20170215
Colchicum doerfleri ex Elassona 20170215
Colchicum munzurense 20170216.j
Colchicum szovitsii 20170215
Colchicum szovitsii 20170216
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C. hungaricum
and with a visitor
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I have just inherited a DSLR camera, and am struggling to get to grips with how to use it. Some way to go if the quality of these pictures is anything to go by!
Colchicum doerfleri.
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Next species has come into flower, Merendera candidissima.
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I have just inherited a DSLR camera, and am struggling to get to grips with how to use it. Some way to go if the quality of these pictures is anything to go by!
Colchicum doerfleri.
Let's see if my old point-and-shoot camera can produce better results.
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Yep, better picture Ralph, but don't stop experimenting. I don't use a DSLR so I maybe be talking through my hat (I'm good at that) but it maybe that the lense you are using isn't up to macro work. If you put the camera details up in the Camera thread the experts will tell you.
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Good idea. It isn't a macro lens, it's a Tamron AF Aspherical XR 28-300mm 1:3.5-6.3, whatever all that means.
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??? ??? ??? ;D
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Some colchicums pictured yesterday when all crocus flowers were closed.
Colchicum gohariae from Armenia - by Karin Person regarded as synonim of C. szowitsii, but she isn't certain as no living material was observed in Gothenburg.
Colchicum robustum from Iran - very close to C. jolantae - again the last regarded as synonim of robustum
Unidentified species, but seem to be C. triphyllum
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Few more
Unidentified sp. opf unknown origin, but best white at this moment
Colchicum szowitsii from Gemnbos Yayla in Turkey, near Akseki - the best of this species, so special, that may be...
And the last C. triphyllum
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C. hungaricum
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Colchicum Kesselringii
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(https://up.picr.de/28444250wi.jpg)
Colchicum luteum x kesselringii 'Jeanne'
(https://up.picr.de/28444251db.jpg)
Colchicum kesselringii ‚Purple Star’
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Great pictures ebbie, here's just one C. kesselringii in flower and some others, all outside.
The shown clone of C. szovitsii starts rose and ends white.
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Some autumn flowerers here:
1) Colchicum "Atropurpureum" - possibly a form of C. cilicium;
2) Colchicum "Mrs Craig's" which Otto and Viv tell me is most likely Colchicum byzantinum;
3) Colchicum cilicium "Pale Form";
4) Colchicum 'Lilac Major' which might be actually 'Lilac Wonder';
5) A mystery one grown from Seedex seed as C. sibthorpii, but it isn't!
cheers
fermi
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This Colchicum cupanii has come into flower now - possibly because it was kept dry for too long
cheers
fermi
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very nice ;)
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Yann, it is nice and very tiny - only for a pot or trough!
This week it has produced a few more flowers and a second plant is in bud,
cheers
fermi
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First autumn Colchicum here is Colchicum parnassicum as every year.
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This tiny Colchicum trigynum makes the C. cupani look gigantic (well it would if they flowered at the same time!).
Otto tells me that it used to be a Merendera,
cheers
fermi
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Signs of Autumn? Colchicum alpinum.
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alpinum can bloom between mid-July to Early october, this species is not the best barometer for autumn. Take a look at the forecast for the next 2 weeks along the Channel, it's autumn :(
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This self seedling colchicum bloom at 39 ° Celsius in my meadow.
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39 ° ! You are still having a lot of heat, Franz.
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I wondered why there was no leaf growth in this pot of Colchicum kotschyi until I lifted it out of its tray!
cheers
fermi
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Colchicum 'Houdini', fermi?!!
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The next Colchicum are starting to flower here, first is Colchicum haynaldii, second Colchicum sfikasianum.
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Taken today at Bilecik/Turkey today.
Colchicum identified as umbrosum
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1. Colchicum x 'Lysimachus', found on the mountain Falakros in Greece. A cross between C. autumnale x C. haynaldii.
2. Colchicum byzantinum 'Innocence'.
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1. Colchicum bivonae 'Apollo'.
2. Colchicum bivonae 'Disraeli'.
3. Colchicum tenorii.
4. Colchicum x agrippinum, a very nice tesselated one.
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Nice set of pictures Gerrit.
The few I have have started now:-
Colchicum agrippinum
and some unlabeled ones and more to come eventually from the same patch
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Maybe it is Colchicum autumnale 'Album', David. (the white ones, I mean)
What a enormous group of stunning C. agrippinum.
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Colchicum 'Houdini', fermi?!!
;D ;D ;D
A good indication that I didn't re-pot last season!
I found another one (Colchicum soboliferum) doing the same!
Lovely to see all the autumn species happening "up there" in NH :)
cheers
fermi
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Maybe it is Colchicum autumnale 'Album', David. (the white ones, I mean)
What a enormous group of stunning C. agrippinum.
Thank you Gerrit. Thomas Huber sent me the original bulbs of all my Colchicum many years ago now. The agrippinum never really settled at first and over the years I've moved them to different parts of the garden but they have certainly settled now.
Overnight a couple more of the others I showed yesterday have appeared. I've also posted a close up of the white ones to see if this helps to confirm them as C. autumnale 'Album'
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Colchicum neapolitanum var. macranthum, originally from Marcus Harvey.
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Colchicum autumnal are starting to come out in numbers in the hills. Shame the weather isn't encouraging them to show their best.
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Colchicum bivonae 'Disraeli' in the garden
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Colchicum davisii PD26938 in the greenhouse
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Overnight a couple more of the others I showed yesterday have appeared. I've also posted a close up of the white ones to see if this helps to confirm them as C. autumnale 'Album'
David, now I have seen them as a close-up, I think they are not C. autumnale 'Album'. The crooks on the stamen are purple and that is absent on 'Album'. Look at my Colchicum autumnale 'Album', They are still in their beginning and there is yellow in the throat (calyx)
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1. Colchicum pannonicum
2. Colchicum cilicium 'Purpureum'.
3. Colchicum 'Beaconsfield'.
4. Colchicum laetum
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you've a great clump of pannonicum
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Colchicum from Babadağ / Muğla
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Arda, at what altitude did you see this plant and did you notice what colour the cataphylls were? As the anthers are now black it's well past its best. There are several possibilities as to species in this area. Colchicum sanguicolle occurs high up on Baba Dag and has blood red cataphylls - very distinctive. However, all those I saw on this mountain and farther east were not tessalated as your plant is.
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I think it was about 1300-1400 m high because we were close to top but there were still pine trees around. Soil was red.
I think cataphylls were brown if I correctly understand what it is .
here is another picture of the same plant.
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Hmmm, not sure I can really see the cataphylls clearly. Here are a couple of images of Colchicum sanguicolle for comparison. One of the images clearly shows the cataphylls. Also, these are not, even faintly, tessalated. These images were taken on Tahtali Dag, in a woodland glade near the summit area. I've just looked at the trip notes: C sanguicolle was the only species of colchicum we recorded on Tahtali Dag. Of course we were in this area on 10 Nov 2006, much later than you, so I suspect yours is a different species.
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I wonder whether this might be Colchicum variegatum. This does occur in Antalya province; it is also typically tessalated and Brian Mathew states that the anthers are purple (in his book "The smaller bulbs"). Your second image shows a second flush of flowers just opening and these look to have purple anthers. However, he doesn't say what colour the cataphylls are and I don't have a copy of the Flora of Turkey.....
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Dave hi,
I'm pretty sure cataphylis are not that sanguinic red. They were just brown.
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Some of the smaller Colchicum are appearing now.
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Colchicum pusillum, a tiny one
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Some of the smaller Colchicum are appearing now.
great ones sokol.
I have a photo of C.umbrosum from wild taken today :)
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labels long gone. Large flowers.
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bivonae?
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bivonae?
Hi Arda. I think you're getting pretty good here.
Do you ever come across any of the Oncocyclus iris?
John
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Arda:
Thought of that one, but images I've seen online don't show the tessellation of the petals.
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Arda:
Thought of that one, but images I've seen online don't show the tessellation of the petals.
These C.bivonae photos are taken by me 6 years ago
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313000;image (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313000;image)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313002;image (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313002;image)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313004;image (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313004;image)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313006;image (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7848.0;attach=313006;image)
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Hi Arda. I think you're getting pretty good here.
Do you ever come across any of the Oncocyclus iris?
John
Hello John,
Thank you :)
About Iris, I have little to none knowledge about Iris so I don't know if an iris is Oncocyclus or not. But I did see some wild Iris but never in flower.
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Hi Arnold. Quote from PBS.
"Colchicum bivonae contributes the tessellation (checkering) to these hybrids."
John
Arda:
Thought of that one, but images I've seen online don't show the tessellation of the petals.
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John:
Seems it could be. I know it was acquired a C. bivonae but in the world of Colchicums there's much confusion.
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Colchicum sanguicole
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4397/36991072942_56992c04ee_o_d.jpg)
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Steve do you have a photo with cataphyll?
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Sorry Arda. The image was taken 10 days ago with no cataphyll in the frame. The flowers have gone over now.
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It is ok. Your photos are always great :)
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C. Bivonae from wild taken by my friend last week.
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These bulbs were given to me as Colchicum laetum. I have to pass them on so identification is important. But, according to the RHS, there seems to be a Colchicum laetum as described by Christian von Steven in 1829 and also the name Colchicum laetum misapplied to Colchicum parnassicum. Can anyone say is these are one or the other or neither?
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Hello Alan
Your Colchicum looks indeed to C. laetum hort. what is a similar garden form as C. byzanthynum. It makes also the same giant tubers as C. byzanthinum.
greetings
Sjaak de Groot
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Any idea about this Colchicum that I have got as Colchicum cupanii from the seed exchange?
My Colchicum cupanii looks quite different.
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Another tiny Colchicum from seed collected at Omalos, Crete in 2014, just 3 years to come into flower what's really fast.
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Thank you Sjaak ('Tulipaholic'). I found a picture of Colchicum laetum in an old Bulb Log here http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2005/280905/log.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2005/280905/log.html) but the stripe down the centre of the petals seemed more pronounced than in the specimens I have.
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This year our C. speciosum have struggled but this rather blowsy patch is looking wonderful.
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They're "glam" aren't they? The doubles hold their shape better even when weather-beaten here.
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Couple of unknown Colchicums.
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This one is Colchicum Rosy Dawn.
Opens very white and ages to pink.
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Colchicum autumnale, flora pleno. Full sun and he seems happy.
Colchicum cupanii, this one deserve 5 stars
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I think it is C. cilicicum.
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Wonderful to see in the sunshine, Franz. Do you not have trouble with slugs and snails ? All those flowers look perfect!
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No, my slugs and snails like no bulbs!
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No, my slugs and snails like no bulbs!
Then you are a VERY lucky man!
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Colchicum cousturieri somewhat shy to open fully.
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Colchicum cupanii subsp. cupanii.
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Unlike autumn crocuses colchicums are thriving here this season
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1. Colchicum autumnale album (or a hybrid as it is selfseeded)
[attachimg=1]2. colchicum Water Lily
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I think it was about 1300-1400 m high because we were close to top but there were still pine trees around. Soil was red.
I think cataphylls were brown if I correctly understand what it is .
here is another picture of the same plant.
Resembles colchicum platyphyllum
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Bought this Colchicum byzantinum 'Innocence' at the Discussion weekend 5 weeks ago. I potted up the huge bulb in the greenhouse. It is still flowering
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Ask for help!
In my bulb garden this year first time I found in november unusual sproutings of Colchicum. Normally the leaves of Colchicum comes in spring. In the foto you can see the form of this sprouts and I ask: What is this and what I have to do?