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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on January 13, 2017, 01:00:13 AM
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A repeat performance from Watsonia socium opens the year for these varied plants from South Africa,
cheers
fermi
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Gloriosa superba can be from South Africa though it is also found in the tropics!
We grow it in pots to avoid it getting too wet in winter when it is dormant and when we get most of our rain!
cheers
fermi
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Wurmbea stricta still in bloom. Now with elongated inflorescence.
Prior posting on the progress of this plant here:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13900.msg369024#msg369024 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13900.msg369024#msg369024)
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A lachenalia forest on my basement floor
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Lachenalia aloides 'Quadricolor' with a few reverting.
john
-4c after a few wonderfuls days at 11c
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Here's a photo study of Lachenalia bifolia was once known a L. bulbifera
Note the pedicles at 4-7 mm which droop at bit.
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In June 2015 PaulC kindly sent me seed of Massonia saniensis, the seed was sown immediately and sprouted shortly thereafter. Those seedlings in photo 1 were very distinctive - stout and sturdy with a bluish cast except for dots missing the blue.
This past autumn I received M. sanaiensis seed from the SABG simply labelled ex Africa. These were sown in mid January under lights and sprouted vigorously within a week. In photo two you will see they look nothing like Paul's and I doubt their identity. Any thoughts?
johnw
+1c, barometer at 760mm and falling rapidly as a storm approaches, expecting torrential rains to 75mm along the coast.
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Romulea tetragona
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/367/31744741383_2b4dff3546_o_d.jpg)
Massonia sempervirens
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/331/31744742343_c0cb1328a0_o_d.jpg)
Daubenya coccinea
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/482/31744742073_539d6e42aa_o_d.jpg)
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the wonderful pictures.... They prompted me to have a look round on the internet and I found this website:
http://www.massonia.com/ (http://www.massonia.com/)
More wonderful pictures!!
Tim DH
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Thanks Tim! Wonderful photos on the Massonia.com site.... there may be some new seed hunts in my near future!
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Gladiolus griseus
Western Cape province
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Here's previously posted images in better light.
Lachenalia bifolia
Gladiolus griseus
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My excitement with the first successful germination of Daubenya marginata was rather short-lived. They don't look like Daubenyas to me after 3 weeks. Agree?
(Looking like Daubenya Sept 2017!)
johnw
+3c
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My excitement with the first successful germination of Daubenya marginata was rather short-lived. Don't look like Daubenyas to me after 3 weeks. Agree?
johnw
+3c
That is how daubenya start
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They look ok to me. Photos of my own D. aurea and marginata seedlings attached.
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Resting at ease now. Of course there was never a thought of tossing them.
Winter is back.
john
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My own Lachenalia quadricolor from Silverhill seed.
Degree of leaf and stem spotting seems very variable.
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Lachenalia viridiflora.
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Albuca concordiana.
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Lachenalia bachmanii from AGS 13/14 seed ex labeled as Daubenya stylosa
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Lachenalia algeoensis starting to bloom now.
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Hesperantha falcata -white and red back form from Hermanus
(1 year from seed to flower)
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Lachenali flava. I know this is an easy one but I am quite pleased with this display.
Erle in Anglesey
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Erie;
Nicely grown.
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Veltheimia bracteata.
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Eucomis vandermerwei is flowering well this year
cheers
fermi
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The Eucomis have a beautiful Fermi color. Arnold, I did not know Veltheimia?
Can you explain this plant?
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Has anyone else had problems with N de Jager, trading as Seeds by Post or Bulbophile? He claims to publish a quarterly magazine, and I paid a subscription last summer but have never received a copy. He does not respond to my emails. Is this a con or am I just unlucky?
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I get his quarterly magazine. It comes by normal post and takes an eternity to get here so I am usually a "season" behind the current issue. I have also bought fresh Gethyllis seed from him however it germinates whilst in transit and is mush by arrival. A real shame as they are not cheap and he has offered some species seemingly unavailable elsewhere.
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Maybe just me then. Incompetence on his part.
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This one never seems to emerge far from the base of the plant. I think this is the best one so far. Wonder [attach=1]what I did right?
Lachenalia reflexa.
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And here Lachenalia reflexa as well, first flowering of these two in the jumble.
john
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Chasmanthe bicolor in the polytunnel.
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Geissorhiza aspera hyb? With pale yellow pollen
Yep it must be a hybrid now plants are blooming in purple and white with pollen in white to yellow
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here's Veltheimia bracteata at full color.
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Lachenalia vanzyliae
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Arnold,
I have been enjoying your photographs, especially the Lachenalia, etc.
The video of the Oroville Dam construction was very fascinating. Ronald Reagan back when he was governor of California! 8)
Many farmers have been rained out of the farmers' market. :P
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Hello, I just buy bulbs from Chasmanthe red and Chasmanthe yellow. As well as corms of Ferraria crispa.
Can anyone explain how I should cultivate them? I felt that the seller did not know what he was selling. ::)
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Hi Frédéric,
I cannot advise on Chasmanthe which I have never grown, but I used to grow Ferraria. Ferraria are winter-growing and at this time of year should be in full growth (they grow from about September to May). So if you have bought dry corms they have missed almost the whole growing season. I think the best thing to do with these would be to store them dry and warm until September and then plant and water them. They should then grow at the right time. Corms are pretty tough so I think they will survive Ok even though they have missed a whole season's growth.
Paul
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Chasmanthe grow as weeds in my polytunnel. Put them in a sandy growing medium in a large pot and keep them frost free.
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Thank you both for the answers, Paul and Ralf. I will follow your advice. ;)
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Lachenalia contaminata left with purple stem and many short 6" leaves
L bachmanii right with green stem and a pair (2) very long 24" tubular leaves.
The flowers look identical. But stems of different length.
The leaves are totally different.
Seems to be confirmed in Duncan's big book on Lachenaila pg 340.
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After two weeks of the only sunshine being on weekdays during work hours I was despairing of ever seeing this open - but I finally did!
Romulea sabulosa
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Not all bulbs - but the nice folk from Attadale Gardens (www.attadalegardens.com (http://www.attadalegardens.com) ) - visiting Hermanus in ZA - ask if we can help them with some IDs -
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A Canna of some sort
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Tulbaghia violacea mcmaster seedlings, 12 months after seeds were sown.
The blooming plant appears intermediate between Tulbaghia violacea mcmaster and Tulbaghia violacea.
The blooming imposter is taller and has wider leaves than the ssp. but has dainter flowers and narrower leaves than my plants of the typical Tulbaghia violacea form.
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Not all bulbs - but the nice folk from Attadale Gardens (www.attadalegardens.com (http://www.attadalegardens.com) ) - visiting Hermanus in ZA - ask if we can help them with some IDs -
No suggestions?
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I can't be sure, but I think photo 2 and photo 4 are Gazanias. The fourth photo looks to me like Gazania rigens var leucolaena. I think the third one might be Carpobrotus edulis (Hottentot Fig).All largely guesses on my part.
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Thanks Gordon!
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Two smaller Lachenalias.
Lachenalia juncifolia
Lachenalia mutablis
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I have a little question. My Rhodohypoxis have spent the whole winter dry in the garage. (Cold without frost). From what time can I take them out to the garden or the greenhouse and water?
Ps, do you have a good mixing recipe for them? I do not find that they multiply as well as in some. I had put peat in the mixture (advised for acidity). For the rest, the usual mixture for well-drained bulbs (2 parts of grains, 1 part of clay garden soil, 1 part of leaf mold, I add bone powder to the mixture.
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Posted already on the Southern Hemisphere Thread:
Crossyne flava is now in bloom again - only 2 this year, but more than one means there will be plenty of seed. Does anyone who got seed from me at the last Czech Conference still have their plants? Let me know if you'd like me to bring some more seeds!
cheers
fermi
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Another kind forumist got some of your seeds for me at the conference and the little ones are still doing well. Fascinating bristly leaves!
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For those in reach of Exbury Gardens in the New Forest, near Beaulieu and only 20 minutes from junction 2 of the M27.
The Gardens postcode is SO45 1AZ.
"Our Lachenalia Exhibition is only on display for two weeks this year, so make sure to see them while you can!
http://buff.ly/2m9XcQH (http://buff.ly/2m9XcQH)
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I have a little question. My Rhodohypoxis have spent the whole winter dry in the garage. (Cold without frost). From what time can I take them out to the garden or the greenhouse and water?
Ps, do you have a good mixing recipe for them? I do not find that they multiply as well as in some. I had put peat in the mixture (advised for acidity). For the rest, the usual mixture for well-drained bulbs (2 parts of grains, 1 part of clay garden soil, 1 part of leaf mold, I add bone powder to the mixture.
No one to help me?
Maybe I did not post it in the right place?
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Hi Frédéric,
I watered my Rhodohypoxis for the first time last week. They are currently in a glasshouse under the bench but as soon as any growth appears I will move them outside. I would only put them back in the glasshouse for overnight if a severe frost came. My mixing recipe is 2 parts soil, 1 part peat (or fine composted bark is also good instead) and 1 part grit. I do not add any fertiliser in the mix, but I do feed with liquid fertiliser regularly through the growing season, as well of course as ensuring they are always well watered - they like lots of water while growing.
In England is a nursery called Tale Valley Nursery who supply a lot of Rhodohypoxis. This is what they say about potting and watering: "Repotting is generally carried out in January or February with the first watering given in February, or more usually March, providing temperatures are not too low. Although much of the literature on Rhodohypoxis recommends acidic composts we have not found this to be absolutely essential, although pH of 6 to 6.5 is ideal. The compost should be relatively free draining which we achieve by adding from 25 - 40% coarse grit to the growing media." You can read the rest of their cultivation information here:www.talevalleynursery.co.uk/CultivationNote.shtml (http://www.talevalleynursery.co.uk/CultivationNote.shtml).
Some of my Rhodohypoxis are pictured below.
Paul
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No one to help me?
Maybe I did not post it in the right place?
I felt I could not comment as we always leave it so late to water ours that everyone else's Rhodohypoxis are flowering well while ours are still asleep!
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Thank you Paul, I will try to get close to these tips.
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Ixia sp., from Silverhill Seeds #1381
Hesperantha vaginata, SS #1310 There were 2 flowers on a stalk but the lower flower got attacked by a bird (brown-eared bulbul, Hypsipetes amaurotis) :'(
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Back on the subject of Lachenalia - Bill Squire in Dorset holds a National Plant Heritage of Lachenalia and these can be seen by arrangement in the next couple of weeks - details in first pic.
" It is said it is the biggest collection in Europe of these species. Viewing is open for around 2 more weeks before the flower season is over."
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Rimer:
Note lights on during the day!
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A good grower for me.
One bulb has multiplied into 5-6.
Lachenalia juncifolia
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Albuca spiralis :)
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Romulea komsbergensis.
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Lachenalia mutabilis.
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Babiana framesii.
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Romulea barkerae.
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Babiana fourcadei.
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Lapeirousia pyramidalis.
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Lapeirousia silenoide.
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Romulea sabulosa.
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Gladiolus meliusculus
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Geissorhiza inflexa.
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Geissorhiza monathos.
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Lachenalia zeyheri Wonderful scent
Named after Zeyher, Carl Ludwig Philip (Philipp) (1799-1858)
Carl Zeyher was born in Dillenberg, Hesse, and worked as a gardener in Germany before becoming a professional plant collector in South Africa in 1822.
He sailed for the Cape with his business partner, Frans Sieber, who continued on to Mauritius and Australia. Sieber returned to the Cape in 1824 and took Zeyher's collections with him, but Zeyher never saw any payment for his work. He nevertheless pressed on with his collecting, in Uitenhage (1825) and Clanwilliam (1828), sending what he gathered to his uncle, head gardener at Schwetzingen Castle.
From 1829-1838 Zeyer collected with Christian Friedrich Ecklon, who sold their specimens in Germany, though many were lost at sea and in a warehouse fire. Together they also completed Enumeratio Plantarum Africae Australis Extratropicae (1835-1837).
Zeyher went on to collect in the Transvaal in 1840-1843 with John Burke, for the Earl of Derby, and visited Kew with a consignment of specimens in 1843. He spent some time in Hamburg before returning to the Cape in 1847, where he was employed as a botanist at the botanical garden from 1849-1851. He passed away in 1858.
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It is so much more interesting when you know the full story behind a plant! Thanks.
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You are most welcome, Ralph. I've also always been interested in the back story on plant names and who they are named for.
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You are most welcome, Ralph. I've also always been interested in the back story on plant names and who they are named for.
These back stories of plant names are often equally beautiful and interesting as are the plants involved :)
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Lachenalia liliiflora. Named for the funnel shaped flowers found in some lilies.
Described as "sweet scented" but not to my nose. Could be due to the incomplete opening of flowers. Will check later on.
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Lachenalia liliiflora. Named for the funnel shaped flowers found in some lilies.
Described as "sweet scented" but not to my nose. Could be due to the incomplete opening of flowers. Will check later on.
The colouring is certainly most attractive - good scent would be a bonus, of course!
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Lachenalia liliiflora. Named for the funnel shaped flowers found in some lilies.
Described as "sweet scented" but not to my nose. Could be due to the incomplete opening of flowers. Will check later on.
Very pretty one Arnold.
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David:
thanks, it's a nice compact plant. Many of the Lachenalias I have present withered leaves when they finally flower.
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Freesia grandiflora
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Oh, I do so enjoy the flowers of the "Anomathecas" :D (now joined with the Freesias) - this nameless (?) one grows near to where I used to live, beside rivers and streams in KwaZulu-Natal:
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Oxalis flava "mauve form" is in flower
cheers
fermi
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Very nice Fermi.
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Babiana rubrocyanea
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2845/34049343975_f613d1a0d7_o_d.jpg)
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Lachenalia nervosa.
nervosa= veined, regarding the prominent depressed longitudinal grooves between the veins of the upper leaf surface
Scented and the last to flower.
Found one of my images on:
https://seedsbypost.myshopify.com/products/lachenalia-nervosa-african-cape-cowslip-10-seeds
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Cyrtanthus sanguineus- blood coloured flower, seems to bloom in 6 month intervals
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Found one of my images on:
https://seedsbypost.myshopify.com/products/lachenalia-nervosa-african-cape-cowslip-10-seeds
Hi Arnold
Wasn't there some discussion about this crowd on the PBS Forum?
cheers
fermi
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Fermi:
Yes,there was. I think he subscribed many to his seed list blog without asking permission first.
I'm going to contact him and let him know that he should ask permission first before capturing ones images
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You'll be lucky if you get a reply.
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Ralph:
Have you tried.
Could save me a couple of key strokes.
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I subscribed to his "Quarterly Magazine", but only ever received the first one. Emails of complaint are unanswered.
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A kind forumist shared some Ixia seed with us. Of coarse they are easy-to-grow, but never-the-less a pleasure in our California garden. :)
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An Ixia viridiflora hybrid.
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Close-up
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We are getting a full range of colors on the Ixia viridiflora hybrids. More will be opening over the next week to 10 days.
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Ixia rouxii - They bloomed for the first time last year and were not very impressive. This year they look great.
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Ixia raouxii - there is some variation in the flowers. Some are very nice.
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Robert,
it's good to see other people growing ixias!
Amongst the autumn blooms here I found the first Polyxena longituba in flower.
I unpotted it and a pic of the whole plant
Yes, I know it's now considered to be a lachenalia, but I'm not changing the labels just yet!
cheers
fermi
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Yes, I know it's now considered to be a lachenalia, but I'm not changing the labels just yet!
Two great minds speak as one!
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Robert,
it's good to see other people growing ixias!
cheers
fermi
Fermi,
Ixia, Sparaxis, etc. can seed around in our garden but they really are not weedy. Many will cross with each other and we get all sorts of interesting combinations - many lousy ones too, but they just get pulled out and they are gone. :)
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Cyrtanthus spiralis
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4168/34378670712_c5ed11965c_o_d.jpg)
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Wow!
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Flowering for the first time for me : Moraea Huttonii. Sown in spring 2014 and thanks to mild winters I have been able to have them keep the leaves over winter. One of the few - perhaps the only one - summer growing Moraea that I can grow here.
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Merwilla plumbea (Also known as Scilla natalensis)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4190/34408957840_bf11888d6d_o.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4273/34408958070_2f652827b7_o.jpg)
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Merwilla plumbea (Also known as Scilla natalensis)
Now that is beautiful .
Angie :)
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Thanks Angie.
Now that the frosts have gone it is outside in a large pot in full sun alongside a large bulb of Boophane disticha. If the rain doesn't stop they will need to come back in under glass. :-[
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Steve:
you have a summer growing Boophone disticha?
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Steve:
you have a summer growing Boophone disticha?
Hi Arnold,
I have both summer and winter growing Boophone.
I began growing Boophone and Brunsvigia over 20 years ago -mainly from Silverhill seeds but also bulbs purchased from Paul Christian. I subsequently lost interest as the kids came of school age and my collection was grossly neglected for years. Despite the complete neglect a number of species survived and slowly increased in size (this despite some very hard winters when greenhouse temps fell below -2C). I think the main reason why so many of the plants survived was due to the fact that they received very little water (they were in large pots plunged in a sand bed which remained just damp in the winter as a consequence of water dripping into the plunge from a cracked greenhouse pane). About 5 years ago I got back into growing bulbs and set about restoring the greenhouse and salvaging what was left of my collection. Over that first winter I almost killed a number of species as a result of overwatering (many of the pots were draining poorly and I was too heavy-handed with the watering). I almost lost my single large bulb of Boophone ernestii-ruschii due to rot. The roots and most of the bulb rotted but I managed to excise the rot through "radical surgery" and save most of the base plate but the plant was reduced to a fraction of its previous size and is only now recovering.
I have one large and two small bulbs of Boophone haemanthoides -all of which are definite winter growers having just dropped their leaves in the last 2 weeks. B. ernestii-ruschii is also winter-growing but tends to produce new growth two months later than haemanthoides and here it holds its leaves until mid-June. I have a pot of Boophone disticha raised from Silverhill seed (I have no record of the provenance of this seed) which is almost evergreen in that it is currently shedding older leaves now but is also producing new growth and looks good from late summer through into the Spring. I have a large bulb of B. disticha from the Eastern Cape which is winter-dormant but is now producing new growth. I also have two smaller distichas -one labelled as "Highveld form" and the other from the Eastern Karoo which are almost evergreen but produce new growth at the end of winter and grows throughout our summer. Finally I have a very attractive form of Boophone from the Port Elizabeth area that produces new growth in the early autumn and remains in growth until mid June before dropping its leaves.
My understanding is that all B. haemanthoides forms (including ernestii-ruschii) come from winter-rain areas in Southern Africa and so are winter growing. Boophone disticha has a much wider range in the wild extending from the cape north into Tanzania. It is mainly found in summer rainfall areas -these populations are usually summmer-growers in cultivation but there are some winter-growers, presumably from the winter rainfall areas.
I enclose some hastily taken images which show my plants in their various stages of growth as of today. The images are of rather poor quality as it is raining here today.
Boophone haemanthoides
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4271/34453789490_533ffe90ab_o_d.jpg)
Boophone disticha -from the Eastern Cape, just coming into growth.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4249/33997163924_25ef908e47_o_d.jpg)
Boophone disticha -immature bulb from the Eastern Karoo; new growth appeared in early March.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4195/34453790250_b452993010_o_d.jpg)
Boophone disticha -potful grown from Silverhill seed; almost evergreen, old foliage starting to die back and new growth commencing.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4245/34453789720_ec6251d780_o_d.jpg)
Boophone disticha -immature bulb of Highveld form; new growth appeared in early March.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4249/34453789820_52543f44c4_o_d.jpg)
Boophone ernestii-ruschii -a recovering bulb which is only a fraction of its original size; winter growing but remains in growth until mid June.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4243/34453789220_e3b47731bb_o_d.jpg)
Boophone sp. -an attractive form from Port Elizabeth which is in growth for 9 months from mid-September until mid-June.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4219/34453790110_bd8db133c0_o_d.jpg)
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Steve:
Thanks for the highly informative response.
I've struggled with over wintering my summer growing Boophone distichas.
I've had most success just placing them in a cool basement during winter months. They seem to know when it's time to commence growth.
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Last of the season. Came in as another bulb.
Lachenalia callista
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Steve:
I've had most success just placing them in a cool basement during winter months. They seem to know when it's time to commence growth.
Hello Arnold, that's how I keep all my summer growers. Haven't kept any log of when they start to grow and if there is any influence of the conditions over winter, but it really is surprising to see how all the bulbs of the same species start growing at the same time. Almost as if they have an alarm clock telling them the growth season is back. Young seed raised plants however are often earlier to start growing than their older parents.
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A better shot of Lachenalia callista.
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Ledebouria sp. Huntsdrift.
Located in the Eastern Cape region.
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nothing special but I seem to be acquiring a lot of rhodohypoxis
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Gethyllis seedlings germinating.
Seed must be sown fresh and is unfortunately expensive and difficult to procure (though good seed produces 100% germination).
My supply of seeds came with small fragments of seed pod pulp attached which I washed off with mild detergent. The seed was sown on a mix of pumice/silica sand/Sophistocat cat litter/perlite which was kept just moist by surface spraying.
Bizarrely the fleshy seed seems to expand in size on germination soaking up water such that even after formation of the root/vestigial bulb and the single leaf the seed appears plump though takes on a dark colour (most noticeable in the G. namaquensis seed shown below). The seedlings are in full sun in an open frame -this seems to encourage the leaf coiling. The seed source was from RSA. I will try to keep the seedlings in growth for as long as possible despite the fact that these are winter-growing bulbs.
Gethyllis namaquanensis -note the dark expanded seed at bottom-right.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4196/34198607983_c7917ba7e5_o.jpg)
Gethyllis grandiflora
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4244/34845567162_fb1b69d2d5_o.jpg)
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Ledebouria ovalifolia
Ledebouria sp. DMC DMC is David M. Cumming of Hoya "fame." He is a Scottish expat living in South Africa now after many years in the Philippines.
Ledebouria socialis
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Trying to get light and close-up
Ledebouria sp. Hunts Drift.
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Haemanthus humilis hirsutus ex Dirkiesdorp
Photo from 11 June, been blooming for a few weeks
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Drimia nana is a very rare, localised species from the Northern Cape, currently known from about five sub populations, but may also be overlooked. Sub populations are small, consisting typically of fewer than 100 plants. The total population in the wild may be less than 1000 mature individuals. Most Drimia species have white or dull coloured, not very showy flowers but D. nana has lovely bright pink flowers that can make quite a show, each bulb producing several flowering stems when mature. It flowers at the very end of its growing season, after the grass-like leaves have already died down, or sometimes as they are in the process of dying down.This species is barely in cultivation, but seed is freely set and germinates well, so hopefully this plant will not remain rare for long, at least in cultivation.
Paul
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What an amazing display from such a diminutive plant!
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Certainly a bonny wee thing Paul!
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Now flowering:
Albuca fastigiata v.floribunda
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Lovely things here.
My humble offering, Gladiolus flanaganii from the seed exchange (SRGC 66-1867).
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Gethyllis linearis.
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Well done!
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Ralph:
Thanks, it survives on pure neglect. Problem is that it flowers during our hottest period here so the flowers and very short lived.
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Cyrtanthus epiphyticus -As the name suggests this bulb is sometimes found growing on trees. Most habitat pictures I have seen are of plants growing on grassy banks and rocks. It is not difficult to grow in a frost-free greenhouse.(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4235/35665900052_21529da0bb_o_d.jpg)
Cyrtanthus huttonii -Grows on seasonally damp cliff ledges and moist rock fissures in the mountains of the Eastern Cape. I struggled to grow this species until I tried wedging it between rock fragments in a large pot with free-draining but moisture-retentive compost. The purple flower bract is typical of this species.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4286/35665900502_13446ff8c6_o_d.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4289/35665900172_58e4095e34_o_d.jpg)
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Cyrtanthus epiphyticus -As the name suggests this bulb is sometimes found growing on trees. Most habitat pictures I have seen are of plants growing on grassy banks and rocks. It is not difficult to grow in a frost-free greenhouse
Nice picture. I don't dare showing mine :-[ It is finishing flowering, sown 3 years ago : it was quick and surprised me. I cross-pollinated two flowers and it seems that I will have seeds. I won't say that it is hardy but it can support frost at least till -5°C as it is winter dormant.
Cyrtanthus huttonii -Grows on seasonally damp cliff ledges and moist rock fissures in the mountains of the Eastern Cape. I struggled to grow this species until I tried wedging it between rock fragments in a large pot with free-draining but moisture-retentive compost. The purple flower bract is typical of this species.
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Wow, I love Cyrtanthus ;D
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Got this Brunsvigia radulosa in2011 and now it flowers for the first time.
I cultivate it in a pot which is kept cool and dry in the basement during wintertime.
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Nice plant and well-grown Rudi!!!
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Thank you Steve.
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Hesperantha humilis now flowering (pic taken indoors this afternoon)
cheers
fermi
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As a wee experiment I kept the two Lachenalia below completely dry over winter then potted them up in late March. Both had bulbs that I thought would be too small to flower. They were planted in a very free-draining mix of seramis (cat litter)/perlite/composted bark (3:2:1), were exposed to full sun outside from early May, received lots of rain and regular liquid feeds. Top growth was compact and almost succulent in nature. Both bulbs increased markedly in size and surprised me by suddenly producing flower spikes which opened up in mid-August.
The first plant is Lachenalia orchioides var. glaucina. The second plant was labelled as Lachenalia pallida but I think it might be Lachenalia pustulata given the pustule-like marks on its single leaf (what do you think?).
I don't know how easy it would be to maintain Lachenalia growing in a summer growth cycle but this seems to be a way to maintain their growth in character when grown at higher northern latitudes.
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Interesting experiment Steve, I will be interested to see if you can keep them as summer growers over a number of years. When I as at Wisley I reversed the growing season of rain lilies in a similar manner, in this case turning them into winter growers. The advantage here was that when potted and watered in September the flowers are produced immediately without the leaves being present. Normally the leaves are dying down as the flowers come making the whole plant look rather messy. Grown as winter growers, the leaves appear after the flowers. Their growth may be a bit lax through the poor winter light but this never seemed to affect their overall performance.
I've just put a few spare South African bulbs for sale on eBay - a couple of Gethyllis, some Daubenya and the extremely rare Drimia nana. Click http://ebay.eu/1n3uCgm (http://ebay.eu/1n3uCgm) to view them.
Paul
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I was given a small bulb of Boophone disticha, back in 2006 and 11 years later it has its first flowers. The wait was worth it; this form (which originated at Robertson in the Western Cape) having flowers of a pleasing soft pink.
Paul
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Very nice Paul and worth the wait.
Is this a winter growing form of disticha?
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Steve you are correct either way as Lachenalia pustulata is a synonym of Lachenalia pallida.
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Thanks Greg!
I wasn't aware that these two are the same species.
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Yes Steve, the Boophone disticha is a winter-growing form. You can just see the new leaves starting to appear at the neck of the bulb in the photo.
Paul
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Eucomis bicolor, growing outside here. Been in the same spot for at least ten years.
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Hi Arnold,
how did it lose its top-knot?
Here are two tinies:
1&2) Hesperantha oligantha;
3&4) Lapeirousia montana
cheers
fermi
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Fermi:
It usually has one. Could have been a browsing deer. We have them visiting the garden at times.
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This is one of the Babiana odorata seedlings showing evidence of hybridising with B. pygmaea
cheers
fermi
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Babiana pygmaea is also in flower
cheers
fermi
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Another little hesperantha, H. latifolia
Romulea hirta
more flowers on Lapeirousia montana
Geissorhiza ornithogaloides
cheers
fermi
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Moraea macronyx in 2 forms, one with brownish markings
cheers
fermi
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Brunsvigia namaquana
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Lachenalia bolusii is flowering without foliage as it was burned off by frosts earlier in the year,
cheers
fermi
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Gethyllis linearis seed pod or is it a 'fruit'
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Arnold,
you'll have to let us know how many seeds you harvest from it.
We have the first flower open today on Moraea (syn Homeria) marlothii; grown from SIGNA Seedex sown 3-06-2012; first seedlings 11-08-2012,
cheers
fermi
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Good to see your bulbs Fermi. As your season starts to approach its end for the winter-growers, mine is just starting. Nearly always the first in flower for me are the Empodiums and I have been enjoying their wonderful scent for nearly a month now. I grow just two - Empodium plicatum & Empodium flexile both pictured below. Also always early is the cute Ornithogalum osmynellum with the wonderfully coiled leaves.
Paul
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Some more I've been enjoying: First a wonderful form of Nerine humilis that was collected at Piekenierskloof. This is a rich pink and lives up to its name in being smaller (shorter in height) than many other clones. Next is Strumaria watermeyeri - probably my favourite Strumaria along with its dwarf subspecies botterkloofensis.
Paul
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Finally for now, the Massonias are well into growth. This is the second year of my experiment planting some of them out in the plunge and they are emerging well. Looking good even without flowers are three nicely-marked clones of Massonia depressa.
Paul
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OOps - forgot this one - Steve Garvie asked to see this (sorry Steve its taken so long!). This is the first flowering for me of Brunsvigia bosmaniae.
Paul
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Very nice Paul. How old is the bulb?
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Many thanks Paul.
A cracking plant!
-As are the Strumaria and Nerine.
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Ashley,
I've had this bulb 4 years, but I don't know how old it was when I first got it, but from the size I would guess it must have been at least another 4.
Paul
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Thanks Paul. Lovely strumarias too, and what a fine clone of N. humilis :o
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This is the first flowering for me of Brunsvigia bosmaniae.
Wow, Paul, it looks like an autumn visit to your place is called for ;)
We got this Gladiolus virescens ssp virescens last year from Greg Boldiston, Longinomus Nuresery, Romsey; it opened its first flower today,
cheers
fermi
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Empodium flexile.
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Empodium flexile.
Little yellow fireworks 8)
You've got a lot of goodies flowering now, Ralph!
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Lovely Gladdies Fermi, Dane Edna would have been proud ;)
I do like your Empodium Ralph.
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The Empodium is sweetly scented too!
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2 Gladiolus grown from seeds from Silverhill Seeds :
- Gladiolus saundersii
- Gladiolus oppositiflorus
About last species, I have two forms, one more pink, lax spike, glabrous and tight bracts, an other form more salmon, dense spike, with hairy and loose bracts. Both were from a pack of seeds labelled G. oppositiflorus ssp. salmoneus but this subspecies seems not to be recognized anymore in South-Africa (http://redlist.sanbi.org/species.php?species=1549-124 (http://redlist.sanbi.org/species.php?species=1549-124)). Does anyone know if this difference is only from the variability of the species or any thing else ?
edit : I have the answer from Rachel Saunders
* IMG_2056.jpg : Gladiolus saundersii
* IMG_2062.jpg : Gladiolus mortonius
* IMG_2063.jpg : Gladiolus oppositiflorus ssp. salmoneus
* IMG_2066.jpg : Gladiolus mortonius on left, Gladiolus oppositiflorus ssp. salmoneus on right
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Veltheimia capensis
I had these in a cool room in the house earlier in the year, but they were not happy. I moved them to the covered rockery where they have grown well, hence the late flowering.
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Here's one from the other side of the globe.
Veltheimia capensis
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A better image Arnold, my close-up has a yellow cast. The complete plant is truer.
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From seed Polyxena longituba. Yes, I know it's Lachenalia now but it isn't on my labels! Some two months earlier than last year.
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Very nice, David.
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Thanks Chris.
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Lovely Gladdies Fermi, Dane Edna would have been proud ;)
But these aren't your Everage gladdies, David, ;D
Here is another one we got from Greg Boldiston: Gladiolus meliusculus
and a potful of Gladiolus virescens grown from seed from Gordon Summerfield in 2008 - the violet scent is pretty wonderful.
Sorry for the quality of the pics - taken indoors as I missed the chance to photograph them before the sun went down
cheers
fermi
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;D ;D ;D
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the violet scent is pretty wonderful.
Yes, when I was walking, the scent would be noticeable before I saw the flowers.
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Thanks, David, any more room in the glasshouse? ;)
Diane, it's a dream of mine to visit The Cape in spring....one day! ::)
Here's a few pics taken in daylight
cheers
fermi
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A bit too tall for me Fermi.
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A couple of my favourite early flowerers, Polyxena pygmaea in both mauve and white forms, and Oxalis gracilis. (Polyxena has been moved wholesale into Lachenalia but I don't plan on changing my labels anytime soon. From a horticultural perspective they are a very distinct group of plants.)
Paul
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Paul,
Is there a reason for you to bed plastic pots in a sand plunge? I have only seen it done
with clay pots.
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Hi Diane,
Sand plunges work for plastic pots in the same way as for clays in all respects except one. The exception is that clay pots, being porous, can absorb a little water from moist sand through the wall of the pot (and lose moisture by the same route to dry sand). But the other factors are the same for both pot types: being buried in sand keeps the sun off the pot wall and so helps keep the roots cool; roots can grow out of the drainage holes into the sand thus removing some of the restriction of a small pot volume; most important of all, sand plunges can remove the perched water table from pots thus ensuring a better drained environment for the roots (though this only works if there is good contact between the sand and the potting mix at their interface at the drainage holes).
I think there is an aesthetic value too in that plunging pots means that whatever their size, they all end up with their rims at the same height which I think looks more pleasing than having a jumble of pots all at differing heights (which can also sometimes lead to some pots shading others).
Paul
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A couple of my favourite early flowerers, Polyxena pygmaea in both mauve and white forms, and Oxalis gracilis. (Polyxena has been moved wholesale into Lachenalia but I don't plan on changing my labels anytime soon. From a horticultural perspective they are a very distinct group of plants.)
Paul
Do like the Polyxena white form.
Angie :)
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This is the first time of getting fruiting on this Gethyllis hallii. The fruit (technically a berry) in this case has turned out to be quite decorative I think.
Paul
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Yes, very decorative :D
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...................(Polyxena has been moved wholesale into Lachenalia but I don't plan on changing my labels anytime soon. From a horticultural perspective they are a very distinct group of plants.)
Great minds think alike!
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The Gethyllis berry looks not just decorative, but potentially delicious, so I checked in Cornucopia II to see if it is ever eaten. It seems not, as the genus does not get a mention at all.
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Diane, your eyes don't deceive you about deliciousness! - The Gethyllis fruits are both highly aromatic and edible – it used to be common for people in South Africa, especially children, to go out and collect them to eat. I have tried them myself from my own plants and while finding them very agreeable I was wincing at the seed destruction I was just causing! Now I try to just enjoy the aroma while sowing the seeds. Seed viability is very short and it must be sown immediately that it is ripe, not allowing it to dry between collection and sowing - like many Amaryllids with this type of seed it sometimes starts to germinate while still on the parent plant. This year I hand pollinated all the species i grow and have fruits on most of them. I have already sowed the seed from one species and within a fortnight little green leaves are evident.
Paul
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The edible fruits are a bit of a delicacy and amongst other things are used to make Kukumakranka Brandy (http://africanaromatics.com/christmas-stars-kukumakrankasgethyliscape-crocus/ (http://africanaromatics.com/christmas-stars-kukumakrankasgethyliscape-crocus/)).
I tasted some Gethyllis villosa fruit about 4 weeks ago (the only species I have which is large enough to fruit) -it was a bit like a sweet date or fig though there wasn’t enough of it to be sure. I only got about 14 seeds from the fruit but at least half of them are germinating.
As regards decorative appearance I prefer Halle Berry to hallii berries.
I love the varied appearance of gethyllis leaves. It is a much undervalued genus which has a lot to offer. It’s a pity they aren’t easier to get hold of. They are certainly more temperature hardy than many of the coastal South African/Mediterranean bulbs that we grow.
Gethyllis oligophylla
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4503/37829105182_4e2d9599c1_o_d.jpg)
Gethyllis verticillata
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2897/14239511185_f7e1163925_o_d.jpg)
Gethyllis britteniana
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Gethyllis villosa
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5580/15016023627_cbee8d61ac_o_d.jpg)
Gethyllis oliverum
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4443/37860512331_b66f29e4f1_o_d.jpg)
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Wonderful Genus!
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I bought this as Cyrtanthus flammosus but I think it might be Cyrtanthus sanguineus -what do you think?
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Re: Gethyllis fruits .... these pix of Gethyllis verticillata were recently posted on Facebook by Kirsten Anderson....
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in flower, July 2017
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seedpod October 2017
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pot with leaves and pods
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009391987173 (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009391987173)
www.alpines.dk (http://www.alpines.dk)
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A couple of late spring flowering corms:
Geissorhiza radians - a few survived the frosty winter
Geissorhiza darlingensis (though this might be another similar species)
cheers
fermi
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Lachenalia viridiflora[attachimg=1]
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Lovely Steve - such an astonishing colour, like Strongylodon macrobotrys but I suspect somewhat easier to grow...
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Lovely Steve - such an astonishing colour, like Strongylodon macrobotrys but I suspect somewhat easier to grow...
Yes, it is an unusual colour, Gail. And I don't have to replicate the tropical forest conditions of the Philippines!
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This from small bulbs the SABG Exchange earlier this year. Polyxena pauciflora[attachimg=1]
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Really nice David, well grown.
Angie :)
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Lachenalia bulbifera ex Vredenburg (Gordon Summerfield seed).
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Interesting to see these Steve. Here are their wild cousins, along the coast near Vredenburg last July.
The last pic shows what I think is L. bulbifera too, but on the south coast at Cape Agulhas. In this population the leaves are heavily spotted.
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Thanks for sharing these photos, Ashley. As you say, interesting to compare.
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Graham Duncan has renamed L. bulbifera as L. bifolia
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Thanks Arnold. What do you think of David's argument (https://academic.oup.com/botlinnean/article/171/4/774/2416303)that this conflicts with ICN rules?
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Ashley:
I was aware that some of his merging of Polyxena into Lachenalia would be controversial.
I've seen this before with other plants. I can't for the life of me understand how two plants I grow are now in the same genus. The Chinese quince (Psuedocydonia) and the Japanese quince (Chaenomeles).
Quite different plants but they are both now in Chaenomeles.
This as we say is beyond my pay grade.
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Moraea is another genus which has had an amalgamation in "recent" years :-\
Here are Moraea cedarmontana and Moraea herrei (syn Barnardiella spiralis)
cheers
fermi
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Like the Moraea cedarmontana, looks so fresh.
Angie :)
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Some recently flowered bulbs: Daubenya comata (the most flowers I have yet had on one of these) and two Oxalis, O. massoniana & O. perdicaria 'Citrino' (the former is South African, the latter South American). Also the fruits (berries) of Gethyllis gerardii.
Paul
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Very nice Paul!
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Really lovely , must be a delight at this time of year in your greenhouse 8)
Angie :)
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I am really taken with those oxalis - will they manage in a cold alpine house?
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Hi Graeme,
Yes, these two particular Oxalis should be fine in a cold greenhouse. Many alpine growers have these amongst their alpines, with no heat, and they often make appearances at the shows. There are so many other very fine Oxalis species too which should be more widely grown. Some of these may be not quite so hardy but I think many would be fine in a cold glasshouse with a bit if fleece over on cold nights.
Paul
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Lachenalia corymbosa and L. pygmaea :)
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I bought this from Telos rare bulbs as daubenya aurea but doesn't look correct.
Paul can you ID it?
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John compare it with Paul’s image of Daubenya comata above -I think your plant is a younger version. But best to get Paul’s opinion.
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I bought this from Telos rare bulbs as daubenya aurea but doesn't look correct.
Paul can you ID it?
John, my best guess from your picture is that it is a young plant of Lachenalia pygmaea (formerly Polyxena pygmaea). As the flowers age more the tepals should curve back to become strongly reflexed.
Paul
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My guess as well. Lachenalia pygmaea
I've had an incorrect bulb from Diane and she has always corrected the error. She's a small one person operation.
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Hi Graeme,
Yes, these two particular Oxalis should be fine in a cold greenhouse. Many alpine growers have these amongst their alpines, with no heat, and they often make appearances at the shows. There are so many other very fine Oxalis species too which should be more widely grown. Some of these may be not quite so hardy but I think many would be fine in a cold glasshouse with a bit if fleece over on cold nights.
Paul
thanks Paul - having looked at the weekend I do have the cream one - but its not flowered - so I need to give it some attention
Does it have a yellow form as well? as it looks like I had two from Potterton and Martin a long time ago
I just need to track down the orange one
I realised I have too may oxalis ..........
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Graeme, Yes there is a yellow form - it is often still seen under its old name of Oxalis lobata.
Daubenya zeyheri has been opening this week. It varies a little in the colour of its reproductive parts as can be seen in the picture below where I have put two different ones side by side. Also I really like the bold, if unusual, combination of colours with Lachenalia viridiflora backed with Oxalis versicolor shown in the other photo.
Paul
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Here's
Strumaria punctata
Lachenalia punctata
Lachenalia paucifolia ( formerly Polyxena)
Lachenalia 'Silver Hill' ( formerly Polyxena)
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Like the Strumaria punctata. Looks so pretty.
Angie :)
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Strumaria salteri
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Strumaria salteri
Lovely colour Rimmer
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Oh, that's pretty.
I'll have to grow that one. My daughter-in-law's maiden name is Salter, so I'm trying to
grow namesake bulbs. So far, I have only Lachenalia salteri.
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Diane, You've probably done this already, but in case not I searched an online database for all plants (not just bulbs) that have the species name salteri and this is what it came up with:
Hammeria salteri, Lampranthus salteri, Mesembryanthemum salteri, Ruschia salteri, Bokkeveldia salteri, Strumaria salteri, Anthericum salteri, Corymbium salteri, Stoebe salteri, Heliophila salteri, Cyphia salteri, Anomalanthus salteri, Erica salteri, Drimia salteri, Lachenalia , alteri, Ornithogalum salteri, Urginea salteri, Babiana salteri, Gladiolus salteri, Aspalathus salteri, Urgineopsis salteri, Amphigena salteri, Dactylorhiza × salteri, Disa salteri, Orchis × salteri, Oxalis salteri, Muraltia salteri, Phylica salteri, Rubus salteri, Struthiola salteri
Cheers
Paul
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Lachenalia viridiflora- always the first Lach to bloom here. Some leaves are mottled, some are not.
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Strumaria watermeyeri
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Amazing! So many plants named after Salter, whoever he was. I didn't do a thorough search - I just search for salteri whenever I order seeds from Silverhill.
I wonder who have had the most plants named for them?
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Lachenalia rubida ‘Red Leaf’ x self, a bunch of seedlings :)
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Those are very striking Tatsuo 8)
How long do they take from seed to flower under your conditions?
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Those are very striking Tatsuo 8)
How long do they take from seed to flower under your conditions?
Thanks, Ashley :)
The seeds were sown in 2013 and some of the seedlings started to bloom in 2016.
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Amazing! So many plants named after Salter, whoever he was.
Diane, in the Dictionary of British and Irish botanists and horticulturists including plant collectors and botanical artists by R Desmond (Taylor & Francis, 1997; ISBN 9780850660890) I found this:
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His botanical publications included The genus Oxalis in South Africa (http://www.worldcat.org/title/genus-oxalis-in-south-africa-a-taxonomic-revision/oclc/6230467) (1944) & the Flora of the Cape Peninsula (https://www.amazon.com/Flora-Cape-Peninsula-SALTER-ADAMSON/dp/B002KIGPZ4) (1950).
Other Salters listed are John William (1820-1869), Samuel James Augustus (1825-1897) & Thomas Bell (1814-1858), any/all of whom may have had plants named after them.
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Daubenya stylosa from McMaster seed. First Daubenya to bloom for me this season
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A repeat performance from Watsonia socium opens the year for these varied plants from South Africa,
cheers
fermi
And it closes the year as well!
cheers
fermi
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Stately Watsonia! Is the Allium behind it very tall or oh somewhat higher ground?
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Stately Watsonia! Is the Allium behind it very tall or on somewhat higher ground?
Hi Maggi,
it's Allium ampeloprasum (Ampeloprasum Group) ‘Elephant Garlic’ and it's planted on the same level as the Watsonia!
I'll post a pic to the Allium Thread.
Here are some pics of an unnamed Albuca growing in the same bed,
cheers
fermi
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Thanks fermi.
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2 Gladiolus grown from seeds from Silverhill Seeds :
- Gladiolus saundersii
- Gladiolus oppositiflorus
About last species, I have two forms, one more pink, lax spike, glabrous and tight bracts, an other form more salmon, dense spike, with hairy and loose bracts. Both were from a pack of seeds labelled G. oppositiflorus ssp. salmoneus but this subspecies seems not to be recognized anymore in South-Africa (http://redlist.sanbi.org/species.php?species=1549-124 (http://redlist.sanbi.org/species.php?species=1549-124)). Does anyone know if this difference is only from the variability of the species or any thing else ?
I finally have the answer from Rachel Saunders who kindly looked at my photos. There is indeed two species, Gladiolus oppositiflorus ssp. salmoneus and Gladiolus mortonius. The hairy bracts from G. oppostiflorus is one of the main caracteristic to distinguish these two close species.
I have renamed the pictures of my original post.
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quick question for the UK members - anyone know what happened to Tale Valley Nursery? They were suppliers of South African bulbs and I got the impression their range was increasing - the website seems to have gone?
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No word from Tale Valley on Twitter since middle of 2016. And Lorraine Birchall hasn't been logged into the forum since January 2016.
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AGS are advertising Tale Valley as being one of the nurseries expected to attend the "Rocky Flower Show' in 2018
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/groups/Dorset/event/ (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/groups/Dorset/event/)
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thanks Maggi - maybe they will resurface as a mail order company - the website has apparently been gone for months.
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thanks Maggi - maybe they will resurface as a mail order company - the website has apparently been gone for months.
better not be gone as some mice have done all my rhodohypoxis this autumn
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One of last "Tweets" said they were not really interested in taking part in the Specialist Nursery listings that was being drawn up - and that they were not doing much mail order any more. Hearing now that Lorraine suggested they were cutting back earlier this year in conversation at Wisley.
Hoping to hear more - will report here if any news.
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I contacted Lorraine a couple of months ago and she told me that they were winding the nursery down and since then I've heard from others that they might continue to do some displays at Shows.
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thanks everyone, shame, I had some nice stuff from them.
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thanks everyone, shame, I had some nice stuff from them.
me too
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They were at the last Wisley show and are still on the Rare Plant Fair nursery list for 2018, assuming it is up to date. Their plants were always good quality, but they seemed to have fewer "alpines" at recent shows.
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Some images taken before the year's end.
Massonia hirsuta
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4515/38357541224_2d7944af2a_o.jpg)
Massonia longipes
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4538/38357540434_0c1ffa3793_o.jpg)
Daubenya marginata
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4679/38724069764_225186120b_o.jpg)
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Great - perfect light on the Daubenya marginata.
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Can anyone ID this flower?
I grew it from seed imported as Gladiolus marlothii, but from images on the web it doesn't look right.
It is flowering here now and looks great. Any ideas? [attachimg=1]
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G. carinatus?