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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Matt T on December 01, 2016, 03:40:47 PM
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Galanthus 'Three Ships' is in flower here, a very generous gift from a Forum friend - thank you! A bit early but might make it to the 25th if the weather stays cool enough.
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Here in Aberdeen I always find that 'drops in flower under glass or in the garden always last a long time - means the season lasts a long time for us. Glad there is something to be grateful for for our weather!(There are other garden delights to be thankful for, of course 8) )
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Matt,
Nice to see 'Three Ships' on December 1 and about to put on their sails. They are looking good and I hope they will hold on for a few weeks for you. Please give us a peek when they open if you can.
Rick
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If it gets warm enough for them to open I certainly will, Rick.
You're garden is full of delights, Maggi!
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A sunny but windy December 1 in the garden and it provided enough warmth to coax G. 'Remember Remember' to open. Here are a couple photos, blurred a bit by the wind but I am psyched it opened up and showed off its handsome mark. First time to bloom in my garden.
Rick
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G. 'Remember Remember' again from a different angle this afternoon.
Rick
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What a beatiful flower, Rick. No wonder you are pleased.
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What a beatiful flower, Rick. No wonder you are pleased.
Thank you, Matt. I am happy to be growing it and have enjoyed the autumn bloomers quite a bit. A fine prelude to the upcoming regular season.
Rick
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Galanthus 'Three Ships' is in flower here,
That's way ahead of me way down south near Cambridge, although last year my 'Three Ships' was in flower by now. I attribute the late season here to lack of rainfall in September and October, possibly not a problem in South Uist.
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All my bulbs are grown under cover, but we also had a dry autumn and I delayed my first watering until the very end of September, which is later that I would have done in the past. I did this because bulbs are usually slow to get going here with a gradual slide from summer into autumn/winter and watering on 01 September causing some rot problems especially noticeable on the leaf tips. This year all of my bulbs are earlier than they have been in the past couple of years, which I put down to the fact that we got something approaching a proper summer then a sharp drop in temperature with the onset of autumn. Many were putting up leaves well before I started watering and no sign of rot.
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Matt,
My 'Three Ships' is not yet nosed up....will have to go inspect. Hopefully, by New Years I will see it in sail.
Rick
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I see that Colesbourne has it's 2017 catalogue on line with some prices which seem to be based on eBay winning bids! :-\.
I will look forward to seeing Paul Barney's list in the next few days :)
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Harvey's list has just arrived. Unfortunately, if I am not mistaken, a lovely error where 'Sheds and Outhouses' appears as 'Sheds and Dullhouses'!!
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Harvey's list seems to be online here: https://www.harveysgardenplants.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=69 (https://www.harveysgardenplants.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=69)
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I think there is already a snowdrop called 'Nothing Special'... Here is one of its many siblings!
Special to me tho' as its the first seedling I've ever flowered. Dad (Three Ships) is just visible in the background. Mum (Mrs Macnamara) is reputed to be either triploid or tetraploid. (It depends who you read!) No polyploid vigour obvious in this seedling, so I'm guessing that the gametes are/were Haploid.
I'll give it another year of 'looking after' Then I'm afraid its likely to go to the allotment for a fairly brutal assessment as to whether its more robust than Dad!
Tim DH
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G. alpinus (Adjarian) (PAL-SV-15-0154) The green spot is not as bright as it was before.
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Ru,
A handsome drop nonetheless.
Please show us more!
Rick
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G. alpinus (PAL-SV-15-0119).
He is in full bloom now.
This is not the first flower of this form :).
I wanted to call it "mosquito". Alas, that name is already taken :). I am grateful to Janet Benjafield for information about this. Dima Zubov gave me a good idea: " like a flying Christmas angel!!! "
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fz4876GfFtM/hqdefault.jpg
Why not?
'Flying Christmas Angel'?... 'Christmas Angel'?...
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A week of record breaking cold temperatures, -7c, followed by a week of record breaking warm temperatures, 16c, have persuaded two snowdrop to finally burst open and drop. They've been in the upright position for what seems to be a few weeks. 'Mrs McNamara' and 'Fly Fishing' are the start of my winter season
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A lovely one Ru, 'Christmas Angel' sounds just right to me.
I have an alpinus (gracilis it turned out to be) from Anne's seed showing a flower bud already yet my old Potterton "caucasicum" since thought to be alpinus ssp. alpinus is my latest snowdrop. It has barely started to make roots.
john
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I'll give it another year of 'looking after' Then I'm afraid its likely to go to the allotment for a fairly brutal assessment as to whether its more robust than Dad!
I have not grown 'Three Ships' for very long but I have seen nothing to indicate that it is less robust than the average snowdrop cultivar; the fact that it is so widely distributed implies that it is a good doer. So to be more robust is quite a challenge! Can it not be more fragrant or have longer-lasting flowers or some other more subtle merit? Just to be flowering this early is quite impressive.
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´Three Ships´multiplies quickly, but in Germany, there have been losses in cold winters.
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Losses where other example of the same species (Galanthus plicatus) have survived?
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A lovely one Ru, 'Christmas Angel' sounds just right to me.
I have an alpinus from Anne's seed showing a flower bud already yet my old Potterton "caucasicum" since thought to be alpinus ssp. alpinus is my latest snowdrop. It has barely started to make roots.
john
My alpinus s.str, caucasicum, angustifolius, bortkewitschianus still asleep. No flowers. The uniqueness of the Adjarian population is that these plants not need a cold dormant period. They begin to grow immediately after the first cold nights ...
Some of these plants are real giants. Some of them have a very broad leaves. I plan a lot of work on hybridization with them.
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I'm very taken with a new snowdrop that I acquired in the summer called 'Else Grollenberg'. The three large bulbs have each produced two flowering shoots and a third smaller non-flowering one. They came into flower at about the same time as my 'Peter Gatehouse' snowdrops, so relatively early in what is, for me, a later-than-usual autumn season. The flowers are unusually proportioned with very long narrow outer petals. This makes them distinctive and immediately recognisable. I have tried to capture this in a downward looking shot (please excuse the anti-squirrel netting).
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My impression is that not many UK galanthophiles grow this particular snowdrop. They are distributed by Wim Postema from http://www.sneeuwklokjes.nl/ (http://www.sneeuwklokjes.nl/)
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Losses where other example of the same species (Galanthus plicatus) have survived?
Yes, probably due to it´s early flowering and sending up leaves, ´Three Ships´died or were severely reduced where ´Augustus´, for instance, remained unharmed.
Once, G. plicatus was considered short-lived in Germany, which is not the case, in my experience. Possibly it succumbed to frost in the colder parts of Germany. Luckily, I´m gardening in one of the mildest parts, near the Dutch border.
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'Alpha Dervish Dance' is really nice Ru, quite distinctive.
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'Alpha Dervish Dance' is really nice Ru, quite distinctive.
I was surprised by the size of its bulbs :)
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Bulbs are like small onions :o :)
Here there are no sign of any snowdrop noses yet, the ground is frozen and has been some time already. I don't expect it to melt until spring. :( Usually I can see noses of early varieties like 'Mrs Macnamara' in December, though they flower only in March and April here, but this year they are not up yet. I think this is because this cold period started already in the beginning of November, earliest since I have grown snowdrops.
So far G.plicatus varieties have been fine here in spite of the cold, they don't come up until spring. I hope this winter is no exception.
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Ru - Good to see both you and those giants!
john
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The uniqueness of the Adjarian population is that these plants not need a cold dormant period.
Ru - What exactly does this tell us of the cimate of Adjara? Is there no winter there, a very mild winter or is the growing season very short followed by an immediate return to winter so plants do not grow in autumn?
Your Christmas Angel could be a Whirling Dervish! It reminded me of something very familiar!
john
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Ru - What exactly does this tell us of the cimate of Adjaria? Is there no winter there, a very mild winter or is the growing season very short followed by an immediate return to winter so plants do not grow in autumn?
Your Christmas Angel could be a Whirling Dervish! It reminded me of something very familiar!
john
Adjara - humid subtropics. The population is located in the river valley. The gorge gets warm during the day but at night the cold air flows down through the gorge. In the morning frost. Altitude 150-200m. Period with stable negative temperatures is very short. The end of December and the first half of January. Flowering in January. Plants large, sometimes very large. The bulbs are readily propagated by division.
Most plants of this population is only available when using climbing equipment.
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I was surprised by the size of its bulbs :)
Yes they are enormous but then look at the leaf growth!
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Ru
Such big bulbs and tremendous growth, I had expected they grew in deep rich fertile soil not on cliffs like that. How much soil is up there or is it mainly grit?
Given the climate of Adjara that you describe I guess I should not hold out hope for much cold hardiness in the Cyclamen I grew as C. adjaricum now known as C. coum ex Adjara.
john
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John, I look forward to Ru's answer on soil. Most winters here are very long and cold in SE MA, US, with a hardiness zone 6 and I have had no problems growing Cyclamen coum on their own outside in the garden. I do not know your equivalent hardiness, but they are pretty tough.
Rick
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Rick - We are Z6 here in Hfx. but a longer winter than you have & spring comes ever so slowly here. I initially had problems growing coum, perhaps we are too wet, but now get volunteers. I grew C. adjaricum (a coum) thinking it might be hardier; as coum is to be found in Lebanon & Israel I suspect our problems with this species may be the source, likely those southern ones are very tender and perhaps we were got southern ones initially. I think Janis said v. caucasicum was our best bet.
john
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Thanks John...yes, there is certainly more to suitable growing conditions than just the hardiness zone. Thanks for the tip on Cyclamen v. caucasicum, good to know in case some of mine start flagging. Mine are seed grown here from established varieties from a supplier in The Netherlands.
I hope your start to winter is not as blasted cold as what we have here today, we have been spoiled to not see much winter until late January in recent years.
Rick
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Rick - Had the first frost 6 nights ago and today we'vere plunged head first into winter. It's -9c right now and barely got to freezing today, I suspect those succulents outdoors are toast. Quite right, unusual of late to see winter before the new year, I just hope there's enough moisture deep in the ground.
Back in the 60's & 70's we got a glossy bulb catalogue from New England and a mag from England called Practical Gardening, there were so many names for coum we knew not what we were growing - C. orbiculatum, C. coum, C. vernalis and a few other names that escape me entirely. What a relief when I discovered the Cyclamen Society &* got somewhat straightened out.
Did you know the late Tim Craig in Duxbury, she was an old pal?
john
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That is a severe weather change...wow. I did not your friend, Tim, but my wife actually teaches high school in Duxbury. A beautiful little seaside town.
Rick
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This early elwesii just keeps going. In bloom now in my garden for nearly a month, I am delighted with the performance of G. 'Peter Gatehouse'.
Rick
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Must be said, snowdrop flowers can last a very satisfyingly long time!
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Rick - I'm surprised you have no snow covder, I guess you missed the storm that struck here Sunday and Monday. About 5 inches down here, a bit of rain tomorrow and then the mercury will plunge. They say it may get colder than all of last winter. Somewhere under this snow a reginae-olgae flowers.....
johnw
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John,...those poor G.r.o. and you...way to early for significant snow and these brutal temperatures to be upon us. We got a dusting a few days ago and are supposed to get nailed with the "Polar Vortex" on Thursday night with lows down to -15C and highs Friday at -10C. Bone chilling....glad I am not a plant! Stay warm, Rick
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Must be said, snowdrop flowers can last a very satisfyingly long time!
Maggi...Well put, they are satisfyingly in flower a long time indeed, particularly in autumn it seems. Rick
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Rick - I'm hoping the snow pulls the frost out of the ground and insulates during the impending arctic outbreak tonight, though drizzling at 5c now.
john
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John...hope it works just according to your plan. Here is a posy I picked before the drops are all flattened. Left to right is I believe G. 'Potter's Prelude', and G. Peter Gatehouse', G. Remember Remember' and an un-named elwesii monostictus which has a good mark.
Rick
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We had another blast of snow this morning after some rain yesterday, this time welcomed in light of the impending vortex. They say it will last but a day and then a very mild Sunday (+10c) as the vortex roars northward & over the north pole southwards Europe or Russia-bound no doubt.
john
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John, I took this shot knowing that after this storm, this one would be long gone. It is an un-named elwesii that has been in bloom for a few weeks and has those fun hoof print marks. I hope the cold air moves on quickly for both you and me and stays put at the pole. Rick
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One of the things I like about PHD is the nice even noses... all plump and full of promise. No chance of even the smallest slug nibbling the flower bud.
Perhaps we should have a 'Prettiest Nose' competition?
Tim DH
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Tim,
A fine idea...hoping the noses up so far here will still be as pretty in a couple of days following this foul weather. I will gladly take some nose shots! And you started it off well with your PHD nose shot....it will be a high standard to surpass.
Rick
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"PHD" ?? What's this ? A galanthus with a doctorate?
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Maggi!
I'm surprised at you!!
PHD 33643 is a ''Scottish'' drop!!!
Not just a mere doctorate, but part of the Professors legacy.
Tim DH
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Smaragdsplitter almost in flower today.
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Maggi!
I'm surprised at you!!
PHD 33643 is a ''Scottish'' drop!!!
Not just a mere doctorate, but part of the Professors legacy.
Tim DH
All Greek to me, I'm afraid !
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Well,
In that case...
I'll have to 'Talk Turkey'.
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Gert....nice to see your 'Smaragdsplitter' growing strong.
Maggi and Tim, this particular Scottish PHD has quite a nice nose. There is a shot of the flower at this URL from a 2013 snowdropcollector post right here. www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10048.315 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10048.315)
Rick
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For the sake of a bit of clarity:
Richard that should be PHD 33643, it was collected by Peter Davis in Georgia in the 1970s.
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For the sake of a bit of clarity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hadland_Davis
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And if you want to geek out on Davis, pick up his noteworthy 11 volume, 7,773 page on Flora of Turkey And The East Aegean Islands just cut and paste or click on this URL and for it is yours to get even more clarification for a mere investment of £ 4,550.71.
Seriously, what a prolific contributor to advancement of botanic endeavors in that region. And I will now be on the lookout for a G. 'PHD 33643'.
Rick
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=17532374881&searchurl=sortby%3D17%26tn%3Dflora%2Bof%2Bturkey%26an%3Ddavis%2Bp%2Bh (https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=17532374881&searchurl=sortby%3D17%26tn%3Dflora%2Bof%2Bturkey%26an%3Ddavis%2Bp%2Bh)
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Maggi!
I'm surprised at you!!
PHD 33643 is a ''Scottish'' drop!!!
Not just a mere doctorate, but part of the Professors legacy.
Tim DH
Following the route given, I learn that : PHD 33643, (it) was collected by Peter Davis in Georgia in the 1970s. Not sure how that makes it Scottish?
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On the subject of "Scottish" 'drops - I believe that the galanthus list from Ian "the Christie Kind", will be ready soon - email him to ask for a list....... ianchristie@btconnect.com
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Hi Maggi,
Thanks for the prompt about Ian's list.... I had it in my diary to do that mid January!
Regarding the scottishness of PHD... he was a Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh.. So I guess that his collections were first grown in Scotland and distributed from there.
Tim DH
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Hi Maggi,
Our messing about with PHD shows what a wonderful research resource this website is.... But it could be better! When I searched for PHD the only image I could find from the leads was that one which Rick referenced.. I know there are others.. because I've posted some! Some of those include extra cultural information.. Obviously I'm not interested in re-reading my own notes! But they would have been hidden from any one else searching for this cultivar.... (The search results for PHD have changed now.. perhaps because PHD has been typed a few more times! But there are still hidden references.)
As an example... last week I decided to do a search on Chatton. The search only brings up three references.. I'm sure I've seen a clump photo of this cultivar.. I thought it was on this website. Now, because of the PHD experience noted above, I'm wondering if the search facility is failing to find all of the Chatton references too?
Tim DH
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Thanks for the Davis info!
Out of 56 results for PHD search - looks like 3 are for the snowdrop - including this conversation here. Not helped by first result being a typo - which I'll go fix.
Will try a Chatton search too - the search button for logged in members, the one fourth left from the list near the top of each page, is by far a better facility than the search button at top-right of pages.
No sign of a group Chatton pix in the forum I don't think - if it was somewhere else it's somewhere that hasn't been picked up by any search engine.
It may, of course, be that a pic of that description HAS been posted in the forum - but if the poster has not mentioned the name in the text of the post then the search facility will not pick it up. That is why I often remind folks to add the names of pix to the text.
I add them myself when I notice and if I have time to do so - but sadly, I am no longer able to work a 24/7 service for members!
It would be great if members thought about the wider implications of providing searchable information to their posts for the benefit of others seeking to learn.
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Hi Maggi,
Thank you for pointing me to the left hand Search… I’ve always used the right hand one before.
One of the problems with us discussing searching for P#D is that everytime we mention it that potentially changes the search!
Anyway… I’ve just done a search which brings up 12 hits… 1,2,4,5 & 8 refer to the plant.
(The others refer to various doctoral theses.)
1 is from Josh Nelson
2 is from you
4 is from me
5 is from snowdrop collector
8 is from Leena
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I’ve just done a visual trawl through all my old SRGC posts (all 198 of them!) and discovered that ten have P#D in them…. So the search engine is only picking up one hit in ten!!
By extrapolation: Does that mean there are another 27 Cha##on references which the Search engine is missing?
Tim DH
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I have no idea! I doubt it if they are fully mentioned in the text.
The search tip is mentioned in the assorted "help" threads which have been posted over time in the forum - pity I cannot insist that everyone reads them! :-X
The search facility finds different result depending how the search is worded, of course - made as awhole phrase, in inverted commas, the list goes on - I don't suppose anyone would read about those possibilities either - she said, getting less full of the seasonal spirit by the minute! ::)
So, Tim - tell your friends about it!
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Galanthus elwesii var monostictus a gift from Ian Mc.
Galanthus rizehensis from Sochi a tiny thing only 6cm tall from Olga
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Whilst the Galanthus elwesii var monostictus is nice the Galanthus rizehensis from Sochi is absolutely lovely, what a perfect little snowdrop, thanks for sharing it with us Tony.
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The species are so lovely.
Isn't the accepted spelling for the little Sochi cutie G. rizehensis Stern (http://citesbulbs.myspecies.info/category/galanthus-wild-species/galanthus-rizehensis) ?
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The species are so lovely.
Isn't the accepted spelling for the little Sochi cutie G. rizehensis Stern (http://citesbulbs.myspecies.info/category/galanthus-wild-species/galanthus-rizehensis) ?
Wow, Maggi I am impressed ;) Yes of course as it is named for the area round Rize in Turkey. Well done :-*
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....and you thought I wasn't paying attention! There must be at least three of these white things I can ID now - just not all the same ones on the same day!
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The species are so lovely.
Isn't the accepted spelling for the little Sochi cutie G. rizehensis Stern (http://citesbulbs.myspecies.info/category/galanthus-wild-species/galanthus-rizehensis) ?
what sharp eyes you have ,it is now corrected
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Thanks Tony - I think remembering about the destruction to its homesite around Sochi for the Olympic Games must have stuck it in my mind. Sweet wee thing.
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Much to my surprise I found 'Miss Wilmott' lurking in the garden - looks like she will soon be in flower and make a good display as it is so floriferous.
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Galanthus plicatus 'Three Ships' has sailed in on cue!
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Galanthus alpinus. First flowering from Tom Mitchell's TCM 12-110, collected Georgia, sown Sept 12
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Tony, always exciting to see the first blooms of a seedling. And this one has a good strong mark. Thanks for posting.
Rick
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Merry chirstmas everyone
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Along with all the other delightful arrivals this morning was my first flowering Galanthus alpinus from the Adjara region!
Utterly beautiful with very dark green mark.
It looks like the only one that will flower this year in my alpinus pot (thanks Ian Young!), but others lined up for next year!
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Merry chirstmas everyone
Merry Christmas, Emma and all SRGC friends! Rick
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Season's Greetings from me too!
Some 'Three Ships' on the Christmas Table, with Hawthorn Berries.
Tim DH
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Along with all the other delightful arrivals this morning was my first flowering Galanthus alpinus from the Adjara region!
Utterly beautiful with very dark green mark.
I can't believe I am admitting to pleasure at the sight of that dark mark and fat round ovary! I need more sleep!
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I can't believe I am admitting to pleasure at the sight of that dark mark and fat round ovary! I need more sleep!
Spoken like a true galanthophile, despite all the denials! ;D ::) ;D ::)
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Oh, just worked my way through the whole of December and am beginning to realise how much more more we might be growing in the future around Christmas and through December. This is one of the few early snowdrops we grow, and my comments about it on Facebook (but for Maggi's felicitation I learn a lot more here :)): "Galanthus elwesii Hiemalis Group. We don't have many of these early flowering forms of snowdrops, and only one or two named forms. On the whole gardeners don't open their gardens in December, except now on Facebook 😉 and on the Forum of the Scottish Rock Garden Club! This clump came originally as a single bulb from Avon Bulbs planted in March 2001, and has not been touched since. It can be in flower early in December (the third picture, 6/12/14), or in this year just starting to flower now. Normally one might lift and divide snowdrops every few years to gain faster increase but this shows the more natural rate of increase over 15 years that can occur in the garden, if a garden allows. As for many woodland species increase often occurs vegetatively rather than by seed, and can give a measure of the time taken for many naturalised colonies of snowdrops in woods in the UK to have arisen. In other words a garden can give a measure of the more natural ecology of the environment outside its boundaries too." (Note: as Alan says I think our very dry and warm summer quite late on into September has led to much later flowering of some snowdrops than normal, but we don't really grow enough/for long enough to draw strong conclusions).
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I have not grown 'Three Ships' for very long but I have seen nothing to indicate that it is less robust than the average snowdrop cultivar; the fact that it is so widely distributed implies that it is a good doer. So to be more robust is quite a challenge! Can it not be more fragrant or have longer-lasting flowers or some other more subtle merit? Just to be flowering this early is quite impressive.
Hi Alan,
Apologies for missing this earlier.... My comment about Three Ships was based on info. from the supplier who advised ''Needs planting in a sunny spot here''... There is, of course, a limit to the number of sunny spots available to me... and the Allotment is gently North East facing! So these seedlings will get a couple of years to impress... OR, failing that, they'll have to take their chances in ground which is distinctly un-sunny at this time of year!!
Tim DH
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From Matt Bishop .....
New snowdrop - 'Fieldgate Imp.'
"Selected from 'Trymlet' seedlings for it's unusually upturned outer segments. Its a xvalentinei inverse poculiform with unusually reflexed outer segment apices.
I don't normally get excited about single-marked 'Trym' derivatives but this is one I made an exception for!"
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Understandably!Possibly, ´Funny Valentine´would be a more telling name?
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Galanthus reginae-olgae ssp vernalis from the Vicos Gorge, Greece.
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From Matt Bishop .....
New snowdrop - 'Fieldgate Imp.'
It certainly is a good addition to those pterugiform drops ;D
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It certainly is a good addition to those pterugiform drops ;D
Don't say that to Matt Bishop, I think he prefers the term he coined himself: "inverse poculiform".
Personally, I think "inversely poculiform" was what Matt was aiming for but did not quite reach. Those little drops in the picture look vastly more like inverted goblets than like leather strips dangling from the waist of a Roman soldier.
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Don't say that to Matt Bishop, I think he prefers the term he coined himself: "inverse poculiform".
My favourite Ella Fitzgerald song is "Let's Call The Whole Thing Off"
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Galanthus transcaucasicus 'Alpha Meridians' photographed today!
It is a beautiful drop with lovely meridian lines on the outers but a nightmare to photograph.
Delighted that the bulb is already increasing!
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These 'drops do enjoy life with you, Ingrid - looking very healthy.
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"mothers" & "dad" Today.
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He is "mother" and "Dad", today. ... Such are the peculiar sexual harassment. :)
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A beauty, Ru.
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A Dryad seedling, just coming into flower..... posted by annew ....
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Maggi - We can hear your muffled ohs and ahs from here. Was the parentage mentioned?
Here's one, G. gracilis ex Dryad seed, from this morning & one that had me momentarily puzzled. I would normally have suspected darkness the cause but it's been sitting in full light.
Wild storm overnight, heavy rain and 96k/hr winds; calm and sunny by morn. Grand Étang clocked 158k/hr in les suêtes.
johnw
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A Dryad seedling, just coming into flower..... posted by annew ....
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What a wonderful outer mark! Well done Anne :D
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No idea about the parentage - we'll need Anne for that, I just stole he FB photo!
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It is Trimmer (Trymmer?) x South Hayes. Glad you like it :)
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Here's one, G. gracilis ex Dryad seed, from this morning & one that had me momentarily puzzled. I would normally have suspected darkness the cause but it's been sitting in full light.
suêtes[/b].
johnw
What is puzzling? Am I missing something?
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It is Trimmer (Trymmer?) x South Hayes. Glad you like it :)
No wonder it's good, two of my favourite snowdrops :)