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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: YT on November 01, 2016, 06:33:07 AM
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It's November already. A year has passed so soon.
Crocus tournefortii, today :)
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Some more :)
Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA 345.221
Crocus kotschyanus, HKEP-9205, from Janis
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Very nice YT!
very happy to see this one for the first time in flower
Crocus moabiticus HK1986/12 HK06
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Crocus kotschyanus 'Lietuva
Crocus tournefortii
Crocus ligusticus 'Millesimo'
Crocus hadriaticus brown keeled form
Crocus melantherus (biflorus)
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Something of a shock to realise that November is here - it has been a fast moving year!
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Ruben, I like Crocus moabiticus very much since I have seen it in Oron Peris book. And you really have it.
Here are the two flowering Crocus tournefortii from Siros from the side.
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Very nice YT!
very happy to see this one for the first time in flower
Crocus moabiticus HK1986/12 HK06
Thanks, ruben! I like your moabiticus :)
Something of a shock to realise that November is here - it has been a fast moving year!
Yes, Maggi. Christmas is just around the corner ;)
Here are the two flowering Crocus tournefortii from Siros from the side.
Nice tournefortii with dark vein on exterior, sokol!
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Have taken loads of pictures of that 'weed' in my garden, Crocus pulchellus. First flower was seen on September 5th and it is still flowering.
The last picture is in rough grass at the edge of the 'lawn' ( not where the crocus has naturalised) where I have been scattering seed for a few years. Good to see results. I want it here not where it is spreading by itself.
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I know it's got a mind of its own, Roma - but these shots are so pretty!
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From Wim Boens
Just a small message to remind people to fertilise/pollinate the Crocuses which are flowering now in their garden, please!!! So you get a good seedset for the exchange of the Crocus Group!
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Some images from the last week.
Crocus wattiorum
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5808/30133886843_92ab793d6a_o.jpg)
Crocus pallasii "Homeri"
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5447/30133887103_7d6e401ca8_o.jpg)
Crocus laevigatus SBL 348 ex Crete
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5736/30732571956_411425ca42_o.jpg)
Crocus caspius
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5322/30732578946_9e8f939a6c_o.jpg)
Crocus (biflorus) melantherus
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5719/30732572266_f1866172fc_o.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5807/30681003021_d041f94882_o.jpg)
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Stunning pictures as always Steve, the Crocus are looking pretty good too.
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Stunning pictures as always Steve, the Crocus are looking pretty good too.
Seconded! I love that image of Crocus (biflorus) melantherus - I've just bought a bulb of this so really hope it looks as good for me.
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no more sun, but in the greenhouse some late autumn crocus are flowering
Crocus nerimaniae
Crocus tournefortii
I had the bad surprise to find few pots eaten by mouses and off course bulbs are lost :'(
This is incredible how they can shred solid plastic.
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Yann sorry for you.
Throughout my pots at regular intervals, I place little bags with poisoned bait for mice. There are regularly disappear but the bulbs remain there.
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I let the greenhouse doors opened 2 weeks without paying attention. I now understand why i saw 2 differents cats entering!!
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sorry to hear yann! I grow every bulb in pond baskets, so they don't have a chance to get on them so easy.
Finally some sun overhere
Crocus wattiorum
Crocus niveus
Crocus laevigatus dark form
Crocus caspius white form
Crocus aff. kotschyanus
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Nice pictures Ruben and you are lucky to have some sun.
We nearly have winter here with temperatures below 5°C and snow every day. So no crocusses open its flowers since days.
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Your purple veined Crocus aff. kotschyanus is lovely, ruben :)
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Crocus goulimyi, JJA 345.212 :)
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Crocus goulimyi, JJA 345.212 :)
That whole potful is a BIG smile, Tatsuo!
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the wouah effect; very nice Tatsuo
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Thanks, Maggi ;D
Your white Crocus tournefortii is lovely, Yann :)
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Unfortunately no rain so only a few Crocus blooming around me..
Antalya,08.11.2016
And Sternbergia clusiana. S.luteas not seemed.
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some crocusses of today - some of my favorites to!
Crocus moabiticus
Crocus laevigatus ssp. pumilus
Crocus hyemalis from Tivon, Upper Galilea Israël
Crocus hadriaticus brown keeled form
Crocus cancellatus, much later form from Altinyala Turkey from Tony Willis
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Must still be pretty warm with you, Ruben, to get those flowers to open so wide. 8)
Very cold, wet and dark here. :'(
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nothing special here, except these babies sown in 2012 and flowering for the first time, Crocus tournefortii
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Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA345.220
I'm not sure its a true type or hybrid ???
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Crocus cartwrightianus
Crocus tournefortii, JJA353.600
:)
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Crocus cartwrightianus var creticus JJA.342.850, from Akrotiri peninsula
it smells softly.
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Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA345.220
I'm not sure its a true type or hybrid ???
It looks neither like goulimy nor like leucanthus. Sorry, but I no this problem.
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It looks neither like goulimy nor like leucanthus. Sorry, but I no this problem.
Hmm... thanks in any way, sokol ;)
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Crocus wattiorum
It drizzled today and all crocus flowers closed but wattiorum's :)
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Crocus wattiorum
It drizzled today and all crocus flowers closed but wattiorum's :)
Tatsuo, they are gorgeous! I have some young plants coming along and hope one day they may look like this.
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Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA345.220
I'm not sure its a true type or hybrid ???
Tatsuo, this does look like C. goulimyi to me, but it is not var. leucanthus, which is much paler in colour.
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Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA345.220
I'm not sure its a true type or hybrid ???
In my experience var leucanthus hybridises freely with the blue forms in cultivation. The offspring vary. With careful hand pollinating I have achieved white and pale offspring but if pollen from blue flowering goulimyi gets in the offspring are usually blue.
Many years ago I had seed known to be from Mani White. I was told it would breed blue the first generation but I could expect whites among blues in later generations. This has proved to be the case.
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Tatsuo, they are gorgeous! I have some young plants coming along and hope one day they may look like this.
Thanks, Matt. Hoping your wattiorum flower soon!
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Tatsuo, this does look like C. goulimyi to me, but it is not var. leucanthus, which is much paler in colour.
In my experience var leucanthus hybridises freely with the blue forms in cultivation. The offspring vary. With careful hand pollinating I have achieved white and pale offspring but if pollen from blue flowering goulimyi gets in the offspring are usually blue.
Many years ago I had seed known to be from Mani White. I was told it would breed blue the first generation but I could expect whites among blues in later generations. This has proved to be the case.
Thank you, Matt and Tony. The blue seedling must be a hybrid with var. goulimyi. I found a white flower came out from another seedling in the same pot today :)
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Stuning group of wattiorum Tatsuo!
Crocus laevigatus is the star of the day here
3x Crocus laevigatus gold back form
Crocus laevigatus dark form
Crocus laevigatus ssp. pumilus
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I like the creamy colors of the 2nd photo. is it a locus form?
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i don't know Yann! I got it out of a swap. But i also really like those colouring . Something else than blue and white in autumn flowering crocus.
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I like the creamy colors of the 2nd photo. is it a locus form?
See more about C. laevigatus 'Goldback' here :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12424.msg316617#msg316617 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12424.msg316617#msg316617)
" Crocus laevigatus GOLD BACK - plant with amazing history. I think it was sent from United Kingdom by Roger Poulet some 20 years ago to "down under" - to Marcus Harvey in Australia. Last summer Marcus very kindly sent me corm of it. So it returned from "exile" to its native hemisphere and now made first flower here. I'm shocked by its color!
Janis "
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6194.msg172484#msg172484 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6194.msg172484#msg172484)
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6194.msg172901#msg172901 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6194.msg172901#msg172901)
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=7934.msg217470#msg217470 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=7934.msg217470#msg217470) - where Janis suggests that the shape suggest more C. boryi
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8043.msg219835#msg219835 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8043.msg219835#msg219835) here Janis shows a yellow- backed form he found in Greece
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Woooww, that's a lot of information Maggy!
Thanks for that!
I'm happy to grow this gem and hope is do well in the coming years
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Of course, Ruben - the forum and SRGC site is FULL of such great information!!
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great Maggi! thx
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Stuning group of wattiorum Tatsuo!
Thanks, ruben :)
Your golden laevigatus is a real stunner :o
See more about C. laevigatus 'Goldback' here :
Thank you for these interesting links, Maggi!
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Finally we had some sun after many dark and cold days and the Crocus opened their flowers. Also the insects were back to pollinate them. Today I have seen only some hoverflies.
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Some more photos from today. Crocus laevigatus from Attiki has really huge flowers.
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they look nice, laevigatus is from island of Ikaria??
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Very nice Stefan!
I really LOVE the mazziaricus! form where is that collection?
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they look nice, laevigatus is from island of Ikaria??
Yes it is, they are flowering for the first time. They are growing there together with Crocus nubigena that flowered this spring for the first time.
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Very nice Stefan!
I really LOVE the mazziaricus! form where is that collection?
Sorry Ruben, I don't know it exactly but it is anywhere from Greece, maybe from Chios or Evia where I have been in 2012. I have pictures back to 2012 but I have never written from where it is and I haven't noted it on the label too.
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Crocus pulchellus on Mt Falakro, first week of November
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Cool icy blues, Tony!
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Is the flower truly that blue?
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Crocus pulchellus on Mt Falakro, first week of November
Very nice blue Tony
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Is the flower truly that blue?
Yes,much depends on how the light falls on them as to how blue they appear
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Can anyone tell me how var creticus differs from the species?
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I was referring to the for,m of C. cartwrightianusc posted some time ago.
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Crocus cartwrightianus var creticus JJA.342.850, from Akrotiri peninsula
it smells softly.
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Is this the one you mean, Ray?
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Welcome to the forum Ray!
Hope to see post/pictures of the crocusses you grow :D
3x laevigatus
Crocus laevigatus dark form
Crocus laevigatus yellow back
Crocus laevigatus pumilus
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Nice laevigatus trio, Ruben :)
Is "yellow back" an albino form? I cannot see any anthocyanin pigment on the plants.
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Crocus laevigatus, JJA 347.402
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The work on my new books layout is almost finished. I just counted - the 235 species are included (one new described in the book) and they are illustrated with 1693 colour pictures and 232 distribution maps.
Still left to select pictures for the first part - general information - and to make page layouts for general part, keys and appendixes.
Almost every one to whom I turned asking for permitting to use their pictures or to supply me with some, replied with - yes (with only one exception) so almost all species are well illustrated. Only those species which I never saw in nature and never grew by myself or which was not even seen by my friends, left without pictures. Such are not many.
I just made agreement with printing house that they will start to work with printing 2nd of January, 2017. I decided to start this a little later to avoid pre-Christmas chaos when every printing house is extremely occupied with New Year's calendars, greeting cards etc. The January is the most quiet month, so all attention will go to my book.
I apologise to those who hoped to receive it as Christmas gift, sorry. But I preferred top quality without rush. So I hope to post book at end of January.
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Is this the one you mean, Ray?
I just returned from Crete where I searched for two things - C. cartwrightianus var. creticus and looked for habitat picture of C. oreocreticus for my book. On Crete still was summer - they day temperatures reached +28 C and didn't fall below +20. So it was far too early for those two crocuses, although I checked all localities known to me.
But our small group used occasion to swim in sea every day. Unnecessarily to tell - that I and my 2 friends were single one on beeches in so "cold" weather, so we enjoyed occasion to swim without dress.
From crocuses we found two (3?) species - everywhere C. pumilus. Measured plants in some 10 populations and even largest of them were below measurements of pumilus in cultivation, and only slightly over half-size of C. laevigatus.
Started blooming C. tournefortii and some looked as C. boryi, few resembled hybrids between both.
On Pellopones was cooler, but we used occasion to swim twice. Flowers of goulimyi was almost gone, the same with niveus, but we saw a lot of boryi and many melantherus. We didn't look for mazziaricus this case.
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I have a question for Tatsuo.
How do you grow these bulb plants beautifully? what is the composition of the soil in the pot?
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Hello Kris :)
Thank you for asking and I'm hoping you find something from a quote below ;)
I grow my plants on outside bench without any protections as I said before.
The average air humidity during winter here is 50 - 60%, but it can usually be dropped down to less than 20% during windy and sunny daytime. From November to March, we have more than 20 sunny days per month...
The major contents of pot soil are AKADAMA, KANUMA and PUMICE. This is very basic and popular soil formula for alpine plants in Japan. I add crushed dolomite and charcoal to the mixture a little. The soil pH is 6.0 - 6.5.
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The work on my new books layout is almost finished. I just counted - the 235 species are included (one new described in the book) and they are illustrated with 1693 colour pictures and 232 distribution maps.
Still left to select pictures for the first part - general information - and to make page layouts for general part, keys and appendixes.
Almost every one to whom I turned asking for permitting to use their pictures or to supply me with some, replied with - yes (with only one exception) so almost all species are well illustrated. Only those species which I never saw in nature and never grew by myself or which was not even seen by my friends, left without pictures. Such are not many.
I just made agreement with printing house that they will start to work with printing 2nd of January, 2017. I decided to start this a little later to avoid pre-Christmas chaos when every printing house is extremely occupied with New Year's calendars, greeting cards etc. The January is the most quiet month, so all attention will go to my book.
I apologise to those who hoped to receive it as Christmas gift, sorry. But I preferred top quality without rush. So I hope to post book at end of January.
Fantastic new, Janis. This is some amount of work you've undertaken and we look forward to seeing the results whenever it is ready. Congratulations.
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some sunshine during this gloomy day: Crocus hyemalis
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some sunshine during this gloomy day: Crocus hyemalis
Very nice, Yann !
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Well done Janis! Really looking forward to receive the book. But can really follow you 200% if you said you choice quality before a rush!
Some of the last 'autumn'flowering crocus
Crocus biflorus ssp. melantherus
Crocus wattiorum - i'm not succesfull to get 5 different clones in to flower in cold frame but one i neglected at all in flowering now. In summer it very dry and extreme hot on that place under a Buxus hedge. Even weed don't grow there!
Crocus laevigatus
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TODAY LAST PAGES AND PICTURES WENT TO BOOK'S DESIGNER!
Still left rereading of proofs what for almost 600 pages is not easy task.
But using some sunny hours I went to greenhouse to check my new macro-lens. During Iranian trip this spring my macro lens (f-50) suddenly stopped to work. As there were some symptoms before I had with me another macro lens with F-100, but is heavy, less sharp and not so good in colours, but at least I had something.
After returning to home I found that such lenses are not more produced and it is problematic to find spare parts, too. An then my children presented to me as present for my 70th Anniversary a new macro lens EF-S60mm f/2.8 Macro USM. I got it only a pair of weeks ago and checked only recently. WOW! What a colours! Sharpness, easy to work - fantastic lens for my old Canon EOS 60D!
The first was spring blooming C. hittiticus! In last years I more and more tend to replace it from spring blooming crocus chapter to late autumn bloomers. I even included it in my coming book's crocus identification key between autumn bloomers, too.
Others are more traditional autumn bloomers - Crocus laevigatus and C. melantherus.
Janis
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Is this the one you mean, Ray?
. Yes thank yo