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Title: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 01, 2016, 01:18:30 AM
This came to us as "Moraea alpina" but appears to be Herbertia lahue
cheers
fermi
PS All quiet here due to The Horse Race ;D
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on November 01, 2016, 09:15:42 AM
What horse race?
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 01, 2016, 11:23:33 AM
I do love your troughs Jamus.
I really don't know where you find the time to know as much as you do.

After visiting some beautiful AGS gardens on Saturday, I took a few photos in Otto's garden where there are always flowers; totally wonderful, despite a serious hail onslaught last week.

I will post a few photos and hope the names are mostly correct. Some I am unsure about, but hopefully Otto will fill in the detail.

1. A daphne, but one I cannot recall the name of ...
2. A beautiful  fern unfolding. Osmunda regalia atropurpurea.  i didn't even know ferns came with purple leaves!
3. Ranunculus asiaticus grown from seed collected by Marcus and Susan
4. Pretty as a picture. Rhododendron glomerulatum and Clematis cartmanii
5. Rhododendron serpylifolium - with blooms only 1 cm deep


Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 01, 2016, 11:32:22 AM
6. A Japanese tree paeonia suffructicosa "Hana daijin"
7. A herbaceous paeonia that I didn't note down but think P. mascula.
8. A miniature ornithogalum - terribly dainty
9. A species oncocyclus Iris with glorious intricate markings. Fallen over in the storm but intact
10. A white paeonia with claret centre - close to P. rockii but not.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 01, 2016, 11:38:35 AM
The list continues:
11. A dark velvety iris. Apologies for lack of a name.
12. The petite blooms of Rhododendron tephlopeplum
13. A second specie Ornithogalum
14. Iris innominatum
15. A striking epicedium, both in the camouflage-patternedd leaves and the large white and plum flowers
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 01, 2016, 11:39:47 AM
one last...
16. Iris verna is oh so petite

jacqui
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 01, 2016, 08:37:36 PM
Hi Jacqui, thanks for taking those pictures and sharing them with us! It just highlights for me what a tiny snapshot of Otto's garden I saw when I was there. Your pictures are beautiful, I especially like Irises. I think number 9 is Iris korolkowii, Otto mentioned to me on the phone the other day that he had it in bloom. The dark velvety unnamed one is a glorious colour. I hope Otto names it for us.

I accidentally posted some pictures back on the old October thread, so I'll post them again here and not bother Maggi. :)

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Pelargonium x ardens, a lovely deep red which always draws my eye.

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Tellima grandiflora, you need a macro lens to do this one justice.

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Podophyllum pleianthum, challenging to photograph!

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Weldenia candida. What can I say, I LOVE this plant. It's my first time seeing it in person and I'm smitten. I can't stop going out and gazing at it.

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This one not in my garden but in Mount Lofty Botanic Gardens. Not on public display but I have special privileged access behind the scenes. ;)  It's Amorphophallus maxwellii

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 01, 2016, 09:04:46 PM

And an Aroid of my own, Arum dioscoridis

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Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 02, 2016, 11:04:04 AM
What horse race?
This one, David,
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37795762 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37795762)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on November 02, 2016, 04:25:03 PM
Ah, an Antipodean extravaganza  ;D
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on November 02, 2016, 05:44:57 PM

I accidentally posted some pictures back on the old October thread, so I'll post them again here and not bother Maggi. :)

Such a thoughtful chap!
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 02, 2016, 08:15:55 PM

You're welcome m'lady   :)

I'm not a fan of the Melbourne Cup or the Adelaide Cup or any other horse race for that matter. Dirty business and not kind on the animals either (the horses or the punters).

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 02, 2016, 10:07:34 PM
What horse race?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh really David? You've never heard of the Melbourne Cup? Australians and NZers think it's the only sporting event in the world and both countries come to a stop when it's run. Having been married to a race horse trainer, I learned very quickly to loathe horses when it became plain that they were all important and I was rubbish.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 04, 2016, 06:53:09 AM
I think it was mentioned in our staff room, and they ran two sweepstake. $2 a horse with $24, £15 and $9 being handed out in each one. I didn't bother. Wouldn't know one end of a horse from the other. However, I do remember watching Nijinski win a race, and the commentary raising the hairs on the back of my neck.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 04, 2016, 09:34:18 PM
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I seem to be building a collection of Phlox subulata, this one is nice.

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Dianthus barbatus 'Sooty' was given to me by a gardening friend and has just started to flower. So sumptuous.

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Of all the Aquilegia I've raised from seed A. formosa has really settled in here. First flowers of the season.

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Agrostemma githago is looking better than I've ever seen it. The front garden is full of them, and no horrid pink ones this year.





Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 04, 2016, 09:35:18 PM

I'm very excited about my Eriogonums, which I am raising from seed and moving into the crevice garden in dribs an drabs. These are E. ovalifolium and look, one is going to flower!

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Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on November 05, 2016, 05:53:56 AM
Dear Jacquie ,  thank you for posting these photos from my garden . These are the names you could not remember :Daphne  cneorum ,easy and should be in every rock garden .-Epimedium sutchuenense  ,-the herbaceous Paeonia 'Branklyn" (after the garden in Scotland ),and Iris korolkowii 'Brown Beard' belonging to the Regelia section .
4 more from my garden
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 06, 2016, 11:36:20 AM
It's my pleasure to share with you all my very first oncocyclus iris bloom. Arilbred hybrid by Jim Kurtz, Dardanus* x iberica elegantissima (Dardanus = I. korolkowii var. concolor x I. iberica). (in doubt) It is absolutely beautiful and I couldn't be happier.

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Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ashley on November 06, 2016, 11:56:18 AM
Stunning Jamus, and of course beautifully photographed 8)
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 06, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
Stunning iris, Jamus,
and strangely similar to one of Pat Toolan's hybrids: PT0022 Iria mariae x Iris haynei which flowered back in September/October
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Cfred72 on November 06, 2016, 05:16:53 PM
That's right Jamus, it is this beautiful Iris
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 06, 2016, 08:26:47 PM
You're right, it's not what's on the label! This is concerning... My suspicion was aroused early while it was still in bud. Not very iberica like is it? I have been very careful with my labeling right from the start, so I hope this isn't a mix up with seed... we shall see as more come to flower which is which.

The three (and only three) I have from Pat were seed she donated to the seedex in 2014

Arilbred -(mariae x haynei hyb dark form) x haynei
Arilbred -PT0328 (Aril hybrid x 9847(mariae hyb.) x (susiana hyb. Blue/black veining) x  PT0719 (Princess Maya x Ravid (light))
Arilbred -PT0426 (Tira nurseries seed mix x ?) x (PT0464(Susiana hyb. X (meirav x Samaria light colour))

So it must be one of those. I've never accepted any live plants from Pat as I was determined to start from seed and reduce the risk of virus contamination.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 06, 2016, 08:48:09 PM
I reckon it's this - ASI seedex 2104 - Item 37   OH (mariae x haynei hyb dark form) x haynei   PT, collected in 2013.

The only oncocyclus iris here not embryo cultured by me is a little I. paraxoxa f. paradoxa which Otto gave me. Everything else I generated in the lab.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 06, 2016, 11:02:05 PM
Gorgeous iris Jamus but not (as I remember from my mother's garden many years ago), very 'Dardanus'-like either. I forget a lot nowadays but have and have always had a good memory for colour and 'Dardanus' was largely a dull purple, heavily veined over white, a high, domed flower. But whatever this hybrid is, I'd suggest pure onco rather than anything with a regelia in it (korolkowii, for instance).
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 06, 2016, 11:56:11 PM
No that's right Lesley... I am blaming the kids at this stage. There no way I could have mixed up labels!  ::)  It is absolutely ASI seedex 2104 - Item 37   OH (mariae x haynei hyb dark form) x haynei   PT, collected in 2013
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Peterwg on November 07, 2016, 12:07:49 AM
Hi Jamus,
     It is exactly like I would expect from Dardanus x elegantissima - provided the plant is not large like an Israeli onco.
     And it IS extremely nice.   And since you have no other pollen, why not try to self pollinate it?    Don't believe everything you read about oncos not being self-fertile - some are, some aren't.  If it is Dardanusxelegantissima, it may be only marginally self fertile, if they have pollen at all.   And can you tell us the colour of the pollen?   Does it have any pollen?   RC x onco often has pale blue or green pollen, oncos are usually white or pale cream.   In any event, well done!
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 07, 2016, 12:13:22 AM
Thank you Peter. I'll send you an email when I get a moment. Now you have me doubting my doubting. Should I have more confidence in my labeling? I think so. I'm super careful. I tend to trust Fermi's opinions for the sheer breadth of his knowledge, but here you are with more specialist knowledge and I'm between a rock and a hard place.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arilnut on November 07, 2016, 12:20:45 AM
Hi Jamus.  Peter is possibly correct. I had a korolkowii X iberica that looked similar.
But also it shows possible kin to hermona and looks close to straight hermona.

John B
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arilnut on November 07, 2016, 12:24:06 AM
Jamus, how tall is it?

John B
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 07, 2016, 01:38:00 AM
Ixia viridiflora, from seed sown July 2015. The background is a bromeliad in another pot.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 07, 2016, 02:46:45 AM

John, it's not that tall. I'm going from memory as I'm at work at the moment, but the leaves are perhaps 15 to 20cm tall and to the top of the flower possibly 30 to 35cm at most? It might not be that tall, I'll have a better look tonight, when I go out to gaze at it. :)

Another picture.. sorry I can't help myself. :)

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arilnut on November 07, 2016, 04:01:34 AM
Jamus, that short stature would support mariae as a parent but the veining
suggests something other than haynei.

John
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 07, 2016, 07:44:03 AM
Hi Jamus,
sorry if I gave you the impression that I was doubting your label. I was really just interested to note the similarity in coloration between the two hybrids!
Peter and John have much more experience with Oncos so trust what they say,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 07, 2016, 11:15:46 AM
No worries Fermi, Peter thinks it's correct and I'm inclined to believe him. Also Fred Depalle thought it looked right and said it's very hard to distinguish arilbreds apart. This is all pretty new to me, although I have well over a hundred onco plants in cultivation a grand total of ONE has ever flowered to date.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 07, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
Glad you've got it sorted now, Jamus.
In the garden we have some Australian native plants in flower:
Banksia blechnifolia x2 pics;
Conostylis aculeata - first pic taken a month ago and 2 from yesterday
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ashley on November 07, 2016, 01:37:57 PM
... I am blaming the kids at this stage. There no way I could have mixed up labels!  ::) 

I think those poor kids deserve an ice-cream ;D
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 07, 2016, 08:26:44 PM
hahaha! Yes, perhaps you're right Ashley. To be fair they are very well trained and hardly ever cause any trouble in the garden.

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Butter wouldn't melt..
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ashley on November 07, 2016, 09:14:31 PM
Looks like you have an excellent little assistant there Jamus 8)
I found that if you make the effort to involve them then most kids are really good in the garden.  However mine are grown now so a collie keeps me company (until she gets bored) ;D
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on November 08, 2016, 05:58:59 AM
Jamus , a beautiful photo of a beautiful Iris . I can certainly see iberica blood in this hybrid . Plants of I, 'Dardanus'  and 'Thor' may flower next year . ( imported plants , so hopefully true to name )

       charming photo of Isabelle and so well behaved when visiting here last month .
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 08, 2016, 10:50:59 AM
Aquilegia viridiflora - hard to notice against the background of fallen leaves and petals!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 08, 2016, 08:16:53 PM
Fermi that gorgeous! I have 4 or 5 plants of this in the garden but have never had a bloom (actually one misshapen one last summer not worth a photograph). Maybe this year... you must be well ahead of us. Do you have any poppies in the garden? They are a pretty good indicator of timing.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 08, 2016, 08:26:42 PM
If you're sensitive to bright coloured, gaudy flowers divert your eyes now.


Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 12, 2016, 01:50:44 PM
Nice variety of poppies, Jamus.

We had a quick walk in the nearby "Blackhill Bushland Reserve"  - I think this area had not been affected by the fire last year.
1) Open land with light tree cover, chocolate lilies, etc
2) Chocolate Lily - Arthropodium strictum
3) Grey Parrot-pea - Dillwynia cinerascens & a common invasive grass - Briza maxima
4) Bulbine bulbosa en masse
5) Bulbine bulbosa close-up
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 12, 2016, 01:59:05 PM
Still at Blackhill Reserve:
1) a grevillea bush -looks like G. rosmarinifolia - not sure if it is endemic;
2) close up of Grevillea flowers
3) Wax-lip orchid - Glossodia major
4) wax-lip orchid
5) Milkmaids - Burchardia umbellata
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 12, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
More from Blackhill Reserve:
1) edge of track with sundews and sun-orchids (drosera and Thelymitra);
2) it had been a rainy morning so these sun-orchids (?Thelymitra pauciflora) stayed closed;
3) Tall Sun-dew - Drosera auriculata;
4) Sun-dew stem;
5) more sun-dew flowers;
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 12, 2016, 02:13:30 PM
Blackhill Reserve flowers:
1) Button everlasting - Coronidium scorpioides;
2 & 3) close up of flowers;
4) Common Rice Flower - Pimelea humilis;
5) Burchardia umbellata;
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 12, 2016, 02:19:12 PM
Blackhill Reserve:
1) Revegetation Track;
2 - 4) Chocolate lilies and Bacon & Eggs!
5) Bacon & Eggs was the common name for these sorts of yellow-red/brown peas! This is Dillwynia cinerascens,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 12, 2016, 02:23:48 PM
Last lot from Blackhill Reserve:
1 & 2) Milkmaids - Burchardia umbellata;
3) Sticky Everlasting - Xerochrysum viscosum;
4 & 5) Matted Bush-pea- Pultanea pedunculata;
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on November 12, 2016, 03:36:44 PM
This Blackhill Reserve seems a rather pleasant place to visit - thanks fermi for showing us the plants.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 12, 2016, 04:16:43 PM
Fermi,

The photographs from the Blackhill Reserve are very fascinating. Thank you for sharing them.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 13, 2016, 06:31:04 AM
Well, don't understand why there would be a red Potentilla flower on the All Blacks jersey for the match against Italy this weekend. With five petals it certainly can't be a poppy! :-[
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 13, 2016, 09:51:56 AM
This Blackhill Reserve seems a rather pleasant place to visit - thanks fermi for showing us the plants.
Hi Maggi
We had not been back for awhile - there was a huge fire there in January 2015 - I posted some pics here (reply #53)
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12593.45 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12593.45)
When we feel energetic we might climb a bit higher into the areas which got burned.

Hi Robert,
you probably would've done the whole area in the time we took to traverse a few hundred metres!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on November 15, 2016, 12:04:50 AM
Salix hylematica still putting on quite an electric show.


johnw - sunny and +14c, a stellar day.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on November 15, 2016, 09:11:59 AM
Lovely colour John.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 15, 2016, 09:09:13 PM
I have a cold and am home from work, so what do I do? Take two panadol and go bush walking. I'm not good at taking it easy...  :-\

Scott Creek Conservation Park. I was too late for the orchids, saw thousands of seed capsules, but there was lots flowering.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 15, 2016, 09:10:18 PM

Part 2 from Scott Creek CP walk.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 15, 2016, 09:11:48 PM
Part 3 of Scott Creek CP walk.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 15, 2016, 09:26:01 PM
One more from Scott Creek, Banksia marginata (fruit?). Known by kids all over Australia as 'big bad banksia men' thanks to May Gibbs. :)

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 16, 2016, 03:54:34 AM
Jamus,

Thank you for sharing such an impressive set of photographs from the Australian Bush. ...and under duress none-the-less!

What sort of terrain is Scott Creek? Flat savannah? Hill country? A small preserve or many square miles (km)?

It must be an impressive show that dries into "nothingness" by mid-summer?

 8)
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 16, 2016, 04:20:47 AM

Hi Robert, it's hilly country, quite steep but not very high altitude on neutral to acidic soils, very rocky and gravelly for the most part with some sandy areas. The website says 706ha which is a decent area by South Australian standards. There's anyways something flowering in the bush here and our indigenous flora is extremely drought tolerant, so even mid summer is still very pretty. The area gets about 800 - 900mm of rainfall, mostly in the winter months tapering off into spring and autumn. Only occasionally summer storms.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 16, 2016, 02:40:05 PM
Jamus,

The average rainfall totals for the Scott Creek Preserve are very similar to those we receive at the farm in our part of California. It is true that something can be found in bloom even in the summer and early autumn in our region, however the flowering season more of less shuts down in our parts during the summer. The trees and shrubs are finished and 95% of the xeric herbaceous species are dormant or have completely dried up. The native landscape is dry and golden brown except for the native trees and shrubs. It is very beautiful in the summer and autumn, but there is not much in bloom. The exceptions are some of the species that inhabit riparian habitats and the few xeric herbaceous species that bloom late in the season.

From the small sampling of beautiful plants depicted from your photographs, Australian native species most be widely incorporated into landscaping schemes in your area?
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 16, 2016, 08:07:14 PM
There has been a revolution in the use of natives in landscaping and they lots of gardens use Australian plants, some well, most badly. Our bushland is a tricky beast. I love it and have a deep connection with it from a lifetime of being taught about the plants by my parents. The difficulty is that it's an uncomfortable place for people... we have a lot of ants which play a crucial role in the balance, many of them stinging and extremely aggressive. The habitat is centered around the Eucalyptus which shed all their bark, covering the ground with litter. This forms a home for ants, lizards, scorpions, snakes and spiders. Successfully using the indigenous flora in the garden would be inviting all these creatures in and making a home for them. For that reason I like to visit the bush, but live apart from it. I hope that makes sense.

Even taking photos like the ones I posted above required observing carefully for the biters before getting down, especially the Myrmecia sp. Standing on a nest could be very painful and even life threatening! The whole time walking you are aware of snakes, particularly the Eastern brown which is extremely venomous and common here. They are a pale brown in this area and blend very well into the terrain.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 17, 2016, 05:30:48 AM
..... I hope that makes sense.


Ah, yes this makes sense. Certainly a few of the local native species must be amendable to the garden? Maybe one needs to choose intelligently.

I guess every place has there "nasties" lurking out in the bush. Some folks saw two mountain lions swimming, yes swimming, across Shasta Reservoir today. Bears, scorpions, rattlesnakes, raptors, bobcats, what else... now the return of wolves to California  8)   8)   8)  :)  they all seem to live in Eden with us. In California they all seem to stay out of the way of humans. They very rarely cause harm and are wonderful to see in their native habitat.

Thank you so much for the information.  :)
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 17, 2016, 07:06:44 PM
Last night here in Dunedin the Otago Alpine Garden Group had the privilege and great pleasure of hosting the wonderful Panayoti Kelaidis and Jan his partner, from Denver, Colorado. They are a charming and amusing couple, fitting right in with us and we'd be very happy if they decided to stay (which they may do for the next 4 years anyway!).

Panayoti spoke about "The Hardy Gems of South Africa" and while we knew and grew a handful of these, most were unknown so the presentation went down very well and we learned a lot and have many plants added to our "wants" lists. For me, one of the stars was the genus Delosperma. Being snobby, I had looked on this genus as "just ice plants," and had ignored the few on offer in NZ but now see them from a different point of view so will search actively for those we have here.

It was nice to be recognized as soon as my name was mentioned ("Oh you do exist other than in cyberspace" ;D) and to be firmly hugged.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 18, 2016, 01:19:21 AM

Lucky you meeting Panayoti and getting to hear him speak on rare plants Lesley. I was in communication with him about the genus Pteracephalus, of which I would love to import a couple of choice rock garden species from America, but they are tricky from seed apparently.

Here are a few things from my rock garden this morning.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 18, 2016, 01:21:11 AM
and a few more...
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 19, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
Campanula bellidifolia is back again, one flower out today and a couple more to come.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 20, 2016, 07:07:53 AM
Isabel and I made a video of the garden this morning. It's not up to Ian's standard and it's very shaky, but not too bad. I am really not used to talking to a camera, so please excuse my awkward dialogue and the occasional trip up over names. I know what they are called! Honest I do  :P   ::)

https://player.vimeo.com/video/192301474
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Matt T on November 20, 2016, 07:39:08 AM
Thanks for the tour of your garden, Jamus. It's stunning. Nice to see Isabel takes such an interest too.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 20, 2016, 07:55:13 AM

Thanks Matt, very kind of you. Yes Isabel is very knowledgeable about plants... but mostly through osmosis!
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on November 20, 2016, 03:52:51 PM
Osmosis is as good a way to learn as any, I reckon. I'm a big Isabel fan!!
 Lovely garden - I like the steps with their gravel patches and plantings, leading into larger areas.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tasmanian Taffy on November 20, 2016, 11:14:04 PM
Hi Jamus, Love your garden. You are only a hop step and jump away from my place can you slip over and sort mine out for me, lol
The frit's I promised you are just about ready to send over to you.
Cheers John.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Leucogenes on November 21, 2016, 06:53:55 AM
Lucky you meeting Panayoti and getting to hear him speak on rare plants Lesley. I was in communication with him about the genus Pteracephalus, of which I would love to import a couple of choice rock garden species from America, but they are tricky from seed apparently.

Here are a few things from my rock garden this morning.


As always very nice pictures. I especially like Raoulia parkii. I had them but I lost them in 2015. I bought them as R. hookeri. Now I know it was R. parkii. When you compare both, you see the difference. Thank you for showing this.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 21, 2016, 08:10:53 AM
Hi Leucogenes, L. hookeri is nice too! I'd like to grow that as well. I am finding the new zealand alpines hard to come by... but stunningly beautiful.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 21, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
Hi Jamus, Love your garden. You are only a hop step and jump away from my place can you slip over and sort mine out for me, lol
The frit's I promised you are just about ready to send over to you.
Cheers John.

John, the trouble with gardens is the maintenance. Never ending and relentless. No matter how tidy you are something's always blowing in or falling over... I send hours just picking up leaves! A favourite pass time of mine.  :P   Those Frits sound promising. :) I have space!
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 21, 2016, 03:41:09 PM
Isabel and I made a video of the garden this morning. It's not up to Ian's standard and it's very shaky, but not too bad. I am really not used to talking to a camera, so please excuse my awkward dialogue and the occasional trip up over names. I know what they are called! Honest I do  :P   ::)

https://player.vimeo.com/video/192301474
A little piece of paradise! Thanks for showing.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Ian Y on November 21, 2016, 04:38:02 PM
Janus, I have also enjoyed the video tour of your garden, I was wondering if I could borrow your co-presenter Isobell for some of my videos.
Great stuff I look forward to some more.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Matt T on November 21, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
I can see Maggi having a glittering career in front of the camera!
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Carolyn on November 21, 2016, 07:10:20 PM
Jamus,
Your lush green garden brightened up a cold grey day! Thank you, super video. I am surprised to see cardiocrinum thriving in your garden. Is it not too hot and dry?
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 21, 2016, 07:54:50 PM

Hi Carolyn, it's a funny climate we have here, very hot and very dry for the summer months, but as we are higher up we get cooler nights and with regular irrigation a lot of things get through the summer. The key is that they start their growing in late winter, we don't have the sub zero temperatures you get. If summer gets too much for them they are burnt off and forced into early dormancy. It's the same with the Galanthus and other woodlanders.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Carolyn on November 21, 2016, 08:01:59 PM
If the heat cuts short the growing season for cardiocrinums, I presume they will take longer to reach flowering size? I have one plant in a very slug infested corner and every year the slugs reduce it to something resembling a piece of net curtain. It has been there for 8 years already and is nowhere near flowering size. Much patience is needed (or maybe some slug pellets?)
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 21, 2016, 08:33:36 PM
Friends of mine have one coming to flower in their garden this year which you wouldn't have thought was flowing size. They surprise you, obviously a lot of energy is put into developing the bulb with not all that much to show for it above ground.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 21, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
Super video Jamus giving a real idea of where you are gardening and how. Isabel does a great job. (Great name she has too, my middle one.)

Really impressed by your Iris graminea, so many flowers in a small area and at or above leaf level, unusual for this species.  There is I. g. ssp pseudocyperus (some say it is a separate species) which flowers at leaf level, or is supposed to but mine is much the same as the type, unless I have the wrong plant of course, as is quite likely. Keep seed of yours and spread it around.

Also greatly admiring of your crevice pot. We have a class in our spring show for 3 or more species in a trough or pot garden. You'd win hands down every time, once yours is planted. If I start right now, maybe I'll be in time for next year's Show.  :D
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 22, 2016, 03:09:35 AM
Thanks Lesley, I'm glad you like my crevice pot. I'll be planting it up on Friday as I have the day off. You'll get updates as to its progress of course.

My Iris graminea is all from the one source and I have divisions in 3 places, 2 in pots and one in the garden. Only the one in the garden is putting its flowers on top of tall stems, the others are more typical. I don't know why its done that Lesley but everyone is welcome to seed, I should have plenty.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 22, 2016, 03:11:10 AM
Iris paradoxa is flowering! I took a few (a few dozen) photos before I left for work and I'm posting them for you now on my lunch break.

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 22, 2016, 03:26:54 AM
More?
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on November 22, 2016, 06:26:33 AM
Great photos  Jamus and I agree with Lesley : one of the most artistic crevice pots i have seen . I will send you in autumn two tiny Saxifragas  S. poluniniana  and S. georgei  which will look at home in your crevice pot . Lucky you to flower Iris paradoxa , superb ! Mine did not flower and is it from the same stable as mine ? Your climate is certainly more suitable than here for growing the oncocyclus  Iris .

 Also greatly enjoyed the video staring Isabel of your garden as most likely I will not see it in the flesh .I thought Hugo would have been eager  to be in the film as well ? Did you put your nose in the flowers of Iris graminea ? very nice . Iris sintenesii is flowering at the moment .
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Leucogenes on November 22, 2016, 08:52:58 AM
Hi Leucogenes, L. hookeri is nice too! I'd like to grow that as well. I am finding the new zealand alpines hard to come by... but stunningly beautiful.

Hi Jamus

Also for me the alpine NZ are particularly attractive.

There should be alpine horticulture in Australia. Or order directly in New Zealand at specialized horticulture deliveries to Australia. Unfortunately, no one delivers to Europe. The way is too far. :'(
There are so many native NZ plants that I desire. But unfortunately I'm not coming. Well ... is perhaps too special.

But dreaming of it is also beautiful.  ;D
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 22, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
Thanks Otto, yes the paradoxa is the one that came from you. It's gorgeous, I keep going outside and just looking at it. A stunning little plant and looking very healthy.

Thanks everyone for praising my pot. I'm looking forward to putting some plants in and seeing them grow. I made a very good, sandy compost with crushed rock for the underneath and beneath the stones.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 22, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
My third onco opened today and it's a bit of a disappointment. The sibling of my first, this one is very clearly iberica x iberica x korolkowii, but it's a misshapen bloom with three falls, only two standards and one and a half(ish) style arms! Very odd, I'll take better pictures tomorrow. I really hope future blooms on this plant have normal flowers because it's stunning colouration. Anyone have any experience with mutant blooms?

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 22, 2016, 02:17:46 PM

As always very nice pictures. I especially like Raoulia parkii. I had them but I lost them in 2015. I bought them as R. hookeri. Now I know it was R. parkii. When you compare both, you see the difference. Thank you for showing this.

Interesting to see Jamus' picture of Raoulia parkii as well as your pictures of Raoulia hookeri.   Not entirely sure what each of you have. Raoulia hookeri has a number of different forms which may change in cultivation compared to what we see in the wild. Here are a couple of pictures of Raoulia parkii taken in the wild 2 weeks ago. it is the genuine article.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 22, 2016, 03:24:55 PM
My third onco opened today and it's a bit of a disappointment. The sibling of my first, this one is very clearly iberica x iberica x korolkowii, but it's a misshapen bloom with three falls, only two standards and one and a half(ish) style arms! Very odd, I'll take better pictures tomorrow. I really hope future blooms on this plant have normal flowers because it's stunning colouration. Anyone have any experience with mutant blooms?

Jamus,

I do not grow Oncocyclus Iris, however I do occasionally get disfigured flowers on Pacific Coast Iris. It is almost always due to physiological damage - cold weather, rain, hail, insect damage, etc. The flowers are fine the next season. I am sure that something like virus infection can cause the same symptoms. I have never had this on Iris and of coarse in this situation such symptoms don't go away. :'(

I enjoyed your video immensely!  8)
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Peterwg on November 22, 2016, 07:58:17 PM
Hi Jamus,  That is a very nice paradoxa.   Regarding malformed blooms, it seems I get some every year.   Not a lot, but a few.   And I have never had a repeat on the same plant.   So I expect the next bloom on that Dardanusxelegantissima will be as you expect - really nice!
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 22, 2016, 08:11:02 PM

Thanks Peter and Robert for your reassuring words! I reckon you're right, I've had a chat with Pat and Bob over on facebook and it's the same verdict there.  I love the warm hues, brown and gold so it would be awesome to see it reach its full potential next year.

David, that's very interesting regarding my Raoulia. I trust Otto's naming of it and I guess the different look is due to environment, I mean, my little plant has never experienced ice or snow and the worst it has to contend with is summer heat and the odd blackbird. I have a little Tasmanian Ewartia in the rock garden which is very similar at least in leaf... must be closely related, or perhaps I'm jumping the gun not having studied flowers on either.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 22, 2016, 08:17:47 PM

Jacqui, thanks for this little Gem, I'm enjoying it. :)

Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 23, 2016, 08:40:43 AM
I agree with the others about occasional malformed flowers Jamus and irises for some reason are particularly prone to it. Bearded irises sometimes produce 4 of everything but are OK the following season so with the others I'll look forward to perfect flowers on yours next time around.
Title: Re: November 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 27, 2016, 06:15:22 AM

27th of November, 2016.
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