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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Jupiter on October 01, 2016, 12:48:36 PM
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Well this is a first for me starting one of these threads (beat you Fermi :P)
Has anyone grown Tuplia linifolia? Are they supposed to be sessile?! I suppose the stems will elongate further but I was a bit surprised when they opened like this...
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Does anyone know what this is? I'm embarrassed to say I'm not sure! ::)
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Close up study of a ranunculus, one of the self seeded ones in the garden which are flowering this year for the first time. Fun to see what colours we get.
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Sempervivum calcareum pot.
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Hello Jamus, your unknown plant looks like a Paeony.
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From 29 Sept:
I believe that Saturday and Sunday are the two days of Otago Alpine Garden Group's Spring Show - that's October really, but sending best wishes to all taking part for a great weekend!
Clearly a good time being had in Dunedin - first, a pic posted in FB by Doug Logan ..... Dave Toolie and Doug judging....
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now some photos pinched form Susan More - the Shoe Pixie!
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Spent most of the day at FCHS for our Rock Garden Group meeting.
Here are some pics from the grounds:
Cherry trees
Erythronium hybrid 'Hascombe'
Scree and Crevice bed
Anemonella thalictroides 'Schoaf's Double Pink'
Raoulia - possibly R.x.loganii
cheers
fermi
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Further down the garden at FCHS
A red waratah (Telopea cv);
close-up of waratah flowers;
Leucadendrons & proteas;
Protea 'King White";
ANother protea,
cheers
fermi
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From FCHS garden:
More proteaceace!
cheers
fermi
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A South African Erica - possibly, Erica cerinthoides;
close-up of flowers;
Erica 'Golden Bells';
Pulmonaria longifolia.cv.
red dwarf tulips, waiting for sunnier weather!
cheers
fermi
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Inside the meeting room plants were set out on the tables for the "Flowers from My Garden" Discussion where each member spoke about the plants s/he had brought;
Maryann had an interesting mix, including a tray of "cuttings"- hydrangea prunings which had been shredded and spread out in the garden where they had started to sprout roots!
She also had a wonderful Dendrobium kingianum hybrid;
and a stunning Clivia 'Twins',
cheers
fermi
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Rock Garden Group Meeting:
Cynthia brought along A potted Helichrysum sanguineum which she thought might've changed names ( I found Helichrysum amorginum 'Blorub' as a synonym for H.s. 'Ruby Clusters', so I guess that's it!);
she also had a Sanicula caerulea;
and her son's Ziera (maybe Ziera prostrata 'Carpet Star'?);
Mike and Inge had a couple of trilliums;
and a recent purchase, Leschenaultia biloba 'Midnight Blue'
cheers
fermi
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Final pic from the meeting:
I'd taken a range of bulbs, mostly South African species;
Cynthia and I had both brought a flower of her namesake, Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia' and back at home, we had a couple of patches in flower this morning,
cheers
fermi
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I'm really impressed by this "Rock Rose", Halimium lasianthum ssp formosum 'Yellow Sun';
Lachenalia contaminatum;
Leucocoryne purpurea (or a hybrid);
Dwarf Bearded Iris 'Zounds';
Allium drummondii
cheers
fermi
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Some Australian plants in flower in our garden:
Eutaxia microphylla.(Prostrate Form);
Calytrix tetragona;
close up of flowers;
Senna artemisioides;
close-up;
cheers
fermi
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Some more Aussies:
Eremophila 'Augusta Storm';
White form of Tetratheca thymifolia
Prostanthera incisa;
close up;
cheers
fermi
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This shrubby-pea is quite interesting, with its thorny branches and dark flowers:
Daviesia benthamii ssp humilis
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
A nice medley of plants, including some of your Australian natives.
I attempted to grow Halimium lasianthum many years ago. I thought it would be easy in our climatic zone. Sadly I could never keep it around long. :'( On the other hand the various form of x Halimiocistus wintinensis are tough as nails for us. They seem to endure almost any sort of abuse. 'Merrist Wood Cream' is the closest we can get to 'yellow' (a tiny hint of yellow), however seeing your Halimium lasianthum encourages me to try again in our Class I farm soil in Sacramento. Maybe this will make a difference.
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I've just seen some photos from this nursery in South Australia - looks interesting :
Looks like a super nursery specialising in native Australian plants http://www.stateflora.sa.gov.au/home (http://www.stateflora.sa.gov.au/home)
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It's a great nursery Maggi and just up the road from us. We go quite often but I don't buy much as they specialise in 'sensible' natives for landscaping and rarely have anything really interesting. I have recently bought a couple of Correas, still languishing in their pots because I need to build the limestone bed where I intend to put them. I really want to try Lechenaultia after seeing Fermi's pictures of his biloba, but they don't stock them... ::)
Here are a few things in the garden right now.
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Everything looking great in Australia. Here too in general. I need to wean myself away from Facebook and revert to my proper camera but the darn thing packed up when I was away. I could still take pictures and they were there all right but nothing on the viewing screen before I clicked the button so I couldn't line things up properly, just had to hope for the best. The target would be taken but off centre or somehow distorted. I need a new camera but can't afford one right now. Will have to put phone photos onto laptop I suppose.
I had Leschenaultia biloba many years ago but two years with even light frosts did for it in the finish. There was a little scarlet one as well. Gorgeous colour.Good to see a few photos from our OAGG Show. Thanks for those Maggi.
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And as always happens when I leave my computer to its own devices for a time, just 3 weeks for heaven's sake, everything turns to custard and won't work when I start up again. Had to go through the whole procedure of re-registering for the Forum, new password etc before I could do a reply and yet again, have lost all my notified topics.
Yesterday I posted a pic on Facebook of my young (2 year) single stem fig tree, now grown from 40 cms to 1.5 metres with FIGS on it. OK they're small as my little finger nails but they are genuine figs. I'm as optimistic as Susan M was when her olive tree had 3 olives and she was looking for someone with an olive press. ;D
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My smileys are back! Just trying it in bold to see if that's working now too.
Yes, it is. Yeay!
Quick note - The little androsace I had at our show, it now turns out IS, almost certainly A. mariae but in a strong pink form instead of the usual white. Confirmation from one of the Czech people. The stems are taller than the usual mariae but it is an outstanding little plant and I'll do cuttings as soon as it's finished flowering. Pleased to know that seed from VH at Tabor was correct after all. :)
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In case people haven't seen it, here are some of the pictures from my recent visit to Otto's place. I named it dandenong ranges, because I intend to add more pictures of Cloudehill garden, Sherbrooke forest and Gentiana nursery, as well as some awful garish tulips from the Tesselaar tulip festival (I promise to precede it with a suitable warning for those who are sensitive to such things).
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=14804.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=14804.0)
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..............I could still take pictures and they were there all right but nothing on the viewing screen before I clicked the button so I couldn't line things up properly, just had to hope for the best...........................
Welcome back Lesley. You sure you hadn't inadvertently pressed the button to turn off the screen in favour of the eye viewer, if so you just need to turn it off again?
On the other hand your camera might not be fitted with an eye viewer and thus I would (and this would be quite exceptional for a member of the male species) be wrong ;D ::) :P
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Have been away a long time, but finally got the NBN so much better internet :D . After a very wet winter/spring I finally got out to take some photos. The Fritillarias, Erythroniums, Dicentras and Trilliums are looking amazing so I thought I would put up a few pictures.
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Have been away a long time, but finally got the NBN so much better internet :D.
...... I finally got out to take some photos. The Fritillarias....
Good to know about your place having NBN ;)
Also good to see there'll still be at least one "Frit" still out when we visit next month ;D
cheers
fermi
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Welcome back Lesley!! How fantastic to see how all your hard work is paying off with those magnificent mass plantings! Hope you are all well?
Read more about Lesley, Amarlie and their folks' beautiful place in Tasmania ( can you tell I'd love to visit?!!) http://kaydalelodge.com.au/ (http://kaydalelodge.com.au/)
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Hi Lesley, great to see you online and I look forward to seeing more of your amazing garden (rock garden please? ;)). I placed an order with you recently for bulbs, including the three species in your previous post! All doing well thank you. Welcome back.
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Hi Maggi, Fermi and Jamus,
It is good to be back, do not know where time goes!! We have been having fun in the garden the last year or so, doing a lot of stonework.
Also good to see there'll still be at least one "Frit" still out when we visit next month ;D
Depending on the weather we might have some Fritillarias out when you come :) . We have had 14 inches in the last two weeks, culminating in snow! Sunny and frosty today so went out and took a few Frit photos. F purdyi (with a F grayana towering behind), F persica and F palladiflora. I will take a few more this afternoon.
I look forward to seeing more of your amazing garden (rock garden please? ;) ). I placed an order with you recently for bulbs, including the three species in your previous post! All doing well thank you. Welcome back.
Glad the bulbs are doing well, a few bulbs fron the bulb rockery coming up!!
Lesley
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Lesley, your Fritillaria persica is the best I've ever seen! Magnificent. I have a lot of seedlings, but all very young and a long way off flowering. And your spotty Frit is nice too. Which species is it? We will get down to see you some day... looking forward to Fermi's photos from his visit.
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Hello David, in view of how rarely (never?) you are wrong, I am madly looking for a button to turn off/on the screen but as yet I haven't found such a thing so we have to consider the possibility that for probably the first time..........
I have to go into town tomorrow so will take it with me and ask the original seller about it. I have had it since early 2005 so I expect to be told to buy a new one but I like this little one, a Panasonic Lumix and it's always done everything I needed.
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Panasonic lumix are generally great little cameras Lesley. I recently bought one for work as a field trip camera because they are so versatile and easy to operate. My advice is to resist the pressure to upgrade it and stick with what you know and are happy with.
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Visited Dave Toole in Invercargill last weekend. Here are a few shots of his garden. As you can see there are trilliums everywhere.
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And the man himself with visiting mycologist, Dr David Orlovich from the University of Otago.
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Nothing rare or fancy but things are looking wonderfully lush and exuberant in my garden right now...
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Pelargonium splendide turned up in the nursery trade here in hanging pots. Straight into the garden.
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I was given this as I. douglasiana, but who knows! Bob Nold?
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Experimenting with Nemophila last year and now they self seed gently around. I love it!
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This PCI is from seed that Fermi sent me, first time I've seen it flower.
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Geissorhiza, clearly not splendidissima, maybe monanthos? Fermi?
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Some photos from this morning.
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Agrostemma githago 'Ocean Pearls'
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seedlings for the rock garden
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This PCI is from seed that Fermi sent me, first time I've seen it flower.
Geissorhiza, clearly not splendidissima, maybe monanthos? Fermi?
Hi Jamus,
That's very quick for a flower for a PCI!
I'd say that Geissorhiza is the same as one of the G. monanthos I posted to the South African Bulbs thread;
the pic here below shows a few variations, the bottom one looks like yours,
cheers
fermi
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Some photos from this morning.
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Agrostemma githago 'Ocean Pearls'
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seedlings for the rock garden
Hi Jamus,
As always great photos of you. Good luck with the seedlings. All good varieties. Helichrysum marginatum please do not dry. With sufficient moisture, very good growth. (Picture of 2016) ;D
Townsendia spathulata is also a beauty. I hope my next year is blooming. I love all the Townsendia.
greetings
Thomas
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Hi Jamus,
That's very quick for a flower for a PCI!
I'd say that Geissorhiza is the same as one of the G. monanthos I posted to the South African Bulbs thread;
the pic here below shows a few variations, the bottom one looks like yours,
cheers
fermi
Fermi, now that you say that, maybe this one isn't one from your seed. You're right, too quick... could be one Trevor gave me.
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In the garden today:
a tan coloured PCI;
Moraea sp and Dichelostemma sp;
Oxalis hirta adopting autumnal shades in spring;
Serapias lingua;
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
It must have been an overcast day. The cream Eschscholzia are still closed. I know that they are weedy-seedy, however I enjoy the cream flowered form in our garden.
An interesting and lovely set of photographs as usual. Thank you for sharing.
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Spot on, Robert, mostly cool and overcast with light rain in the evening - a perfect spring day ;D
cheers
fermi
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Fermi I love your tan PCI. I can't wait to see what colours come through in the seed you gave me.
Hi Thomas, thanks and than you regarding the moisture requirements regarding the Helichrysum. I'm keen to get some of the others, especially H. milfordiae of course. Marcus sent me seed of one which we (Marcus, Otto and I) think is H. sessilioides. Not a single germination yet unfortauntely... I hope there are some viable seed just waiting for the right conditions.
I'm getting sick of the rain this year. We are having an exceptionally cool wet spring, which i great for most of the garden, but the oncos are looking a bit sad! You can't win can you? You try to be sensible and embrace your climate, and this is how you're repaid.... rain rain rain... we had another 30mm yesterday and more forecast for today.
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Hi Jamus, had a busy couple of days with visitors so didn't get back on the forum.
Lesley, your Fritillaria persica is the best I've ever seen! Magnificent. I have a lot of seedlings, but all very young and a long way off flowering. And your spotty Frit is nice too. Which species is it? We will get down to see you some day... looking forward to Fermi's photos from his visit.
The Fritillaria is purdyi, only small but beautiful. I have done a cross with grayana and it is stunning. I went back out and took a few more photos, so have attached an overall of the bulb rockery. Uploading with the iPad means that half or more of the photos are sideways (thanks Maggie ;) for fixing them) so will wait till I download them before uploading more.
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Wow Lesley, just wow. :o I can't believe I'm saying this, but I need more rocks... I'll have to introduce the idea to my wife Rebecca gently and at the right moment. :)
First flowering of this little Centaurea simplicicaulis, battered by the wind and rain today.
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Hi Thomas, thanks and than you regarding the moisture requirements regarding the Helichrysum. I'm keen to get some of the others, especially H. milfordiae of course. Marcus sent me seed of one which we (Marcus, Otto and I) think is H. sessilioides. Not a single germination yet unfortauntely... I hope there are some viable seed just waiting for the right conditions.
Hello Jamus,
Most small species of Helichrysum from the mountains in South Africa want it moist. There is almost always fog. Since I have kept my various Helichrysum species somewhat moist, they develop very well.
If they bloom again next year, I will gather seeds.
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I'm waiting at the moment to replace my Helichrysum milfordiae but years ago I had my own tiny alpine nursery inside another much larger rhododendron nursery at Geraldine in South Canterbury. The rhodos were watered copiously every day and the helichrysum plants were drenched as well. They always looked incredibly beautiful, their furry bluish rosettes covered in diamonds of water and they grew really well in those conditions.
I don't think that we, in NZ, have seen the true H. marginatum.
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Nothing rare or fancy but things are looking wonderfully lush and exuberant in my garden right now...
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I was given this as I. douglasiana, but who knows! Bob Nold?
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This PCI is from seed that Fermi sent me, first time I've seen it flower.
Jamus, there is a simplified key to the species that might help confirm the Iris douglasiana identification on the SPCNI website:
http://www.pacificcoastiris.org/wildiris_simplified_key.html (http://www.pacificcoastiris.org/wildiris_simplified_key.html)
It lists douglasiana floral colour as lavender/purple, though some of the seed in last year's SPCNI exchange described white and yellow cultivars as well. I am still waiting for a first bloom on my seedlings.
That seedling you grew from Fermi's seed is stunning! That would definitely be a keeper for me. Do you grow many Pacific Coast Iris?
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I'm with you Jamus, that is an amazing rock garden posted by Lesley at Kaydale. And the mass plantings!
And your plants are wonderful - esp for such a hot dry state of Australia.
Just a few little things to show - not all mine.
1. Narcissus hybrid from Glenbrook "Russell Falls". Terribly sweet form.
2. The garden greening up with Viburnum "Mariesii" and Syringa Patula "Miss Kim" in flower. And yes, sadly I need possum guards on the birches.
3. The only surviving Geranium sinensis from Bjornar seed - there were more but I took my eye off the ball. This one is in a pot and I daren't plant it out until I'm sure the feral rabbits are locked out. The leaves were an unexpected delight - all blotched in crimson. Yet to flower.
4. Anemone nemorosa "Vestal" in Susan Jarick's garden. One of Marcus's.
5. An elegant trillium whose name escapes me - also at Susan's.
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hello, is it not a Trillium flexipes?
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Thanks Jacqui, I was trying to embrace our hot dry climate by growing various Irises and other tough bulbs, but now we're having the wettest spring I've ever experienced. I just can't win!
Gordon thanks for that key to the Pacific Iris species. I'll have a shot at working through it on the weekend, although it probably gets confusing when what you're looking at is a hybrid of two or more.
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I am usually too busy with our daffodils to post photos of plants growing in our house garden. It is tree peony and waratah time at the moment.
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The Waratahs and Paeonias are just glorious, Graham. Your garden must be giving lot of pleasure right now.
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Maggie, our garden is a delight at the moment and I am not sure the photos I have posted do some of them justice. We have a number of Chow peonies (a Melbourne hybridiser of tree peonies) and there are at least 5 of them that have had at least 10 flowers out at once and the same is true of the red and pink waratahs. The Chow peonies are very much display peonies and the flowers are not lost in the foliage like our Vesuvius. Vesuvius has two flower out at the moment but they are in amongst the foliage. Our first seedling will flower this year and we have quite a few more seedlings coming along in the shade house. The shade house also has a lot of
We like tree peonies but we like a lot of plants. We need more iris and dahlias. Our garden is designed to have continuous flowers. The daffodils, cyclamen, crocus, magnolias and flowering cherries have finished but were still flowering when the first What the photos don't show is that we have a lot of liliums that will flower as the peonies end. Then will come the hundreds of roses, crinums and dahlias. Then there are the autumn crocus and colchicums. The Japanese maples look a treat in autumn when they change colour.
Not sure why but it has not been a good year for fritillaria for us. Maybe it has been too wet as we have had our second wettest September rainfall on record.
There is still a lot of work to be done. We have are well on the way to drought-proofing our property with our water tank and recycling systems. We will be increasing our gardens substantially so that we have more display gardens for our daffodils. Shade is the big issue for us. We need more shade but it takes a long time for the trees to get up to where they provide adequate shade.
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Thank you CFred, it is indeed T. flexipes.
You have a glorious paeonia collection Graham. The vesuvius would be stunning whether or not the blooms nestle in concealed from view.
I shall post 4 photos.
1. Jasminium parkerii in flower. Dear little rockery plant.
2. A flower spike on the japanese woodland orchid Calanthe discolour. Unfortunate placement in the back of a bed but seems to do well hiding away there.
3. The unfurling bud of an iris Marcus gave to me 18 months ago.
Iris hermona x hermona on the label. It needs to leave a now overcrowded pot for the garden this autumn.
4. An open bloom of the same.
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The weather has been unkind to our plants as it has been unseasonally windy here.
The roses season is not far away now.
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Hi Jacqui, beautiful Iris but it can't be hermona x hermona. It's an "arilbred", oncocyclus crossed with a tall bearded. Not like Marcus to make a mistake. Was the label smudged? ;)
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Hi Jamus,
Thank you for your advice- I know very little about irises. He gave me a couple of 'easy ones' a couple of seasons ago to see how they coped.
Sadly I don't have the original label from Marcus, which was most likely scribbled on a paper bag or the flip side of the correct label.
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Graham you have some (a lot of!) amazing peonies.. and other things. They don't do that well here.. it's just a bit too hot and dry in summer for them, like a lot of things.
Jacqui, there are so many arilbred irises. I had a quick look and decided it was too hard to identify it properly from a photo. Check out this gallery on the ASI webpage - http://www.arilsociety.org/index.pl?Gallery+0 (http://www.arilsociety.org/index.pl?Gallery+0) Maybe if Peter G is reading this he can offer some sage advice? :)
A few offerings from my garden
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Rosa cv. Papa Melliand
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Phlox subulata - cultivar needs a name, maybe 'Emerald Cushion Blue'?
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Heracleum mantegazzianum
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A nice bold poppy
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Sanguinaria canadensis. See Otto it made it!
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Some more pictures.. why not?
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Anemone drummondii, first time flowering and more buds coming.
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Rhodohypoxis baurii
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Pinellia tripartita
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Viburnum sargentii
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Androsace studiosorum
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Jamus, I think your last picture, the androsace, is Androsace lanuginosa, not studiosorum which is what we used to know as A. sarmentosa (still do, in NZ).
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Thanks Lesley, but are you sure? I'm not sure now... but I have lanuginosa as well as this questionable one.... they are pretty close in leaf and plant type, but the flowers much paler on my lanuginosa. Otto, can you cast some light on this for us?
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Yeah pretty sure Jamus. The intensity of colour could well vary plant to plant in lanuginosa, maybe with soil conditions or weather etc or just natural variation anyway. Yours looks the same as mine. As well of course, there is an even nicer (in my opinion), form of lanuginosa called var. leichtlinii and the flowers on that are pure white with the little yellow eye which reddens with age as with most androsaces.
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These are two pics of lanuginosa from a couple of years ago. Mine are not quite started yet this year. Won't be long but very wet here at present. The pink here does look very pale but is deeper in reality.
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I can see what you mean Lesley but really my plant is very pink. Mid pink I'd call it. I'll take better pictures tomorrow. Your lanuginosa looks just like mine, except bigger and better! Perhaps the pink one is a selection of lanuginosa or a hybrid of it with another? I have a small plant of studiosorum from Otto which almost died but is coming back now. When it grows a bit I can make a comparison and get back to you...
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Jamus I've asked in a new thread about identification of sarmentosa and studiosorum and I hope someone will put me out of my misery because your own doubt raises doubts in me too.
One thing though. I don't think it is ever safe to use flower colour as a means of identifying a species. So many species have other coloured forms or vary within a single colour.
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This is one of the Ixia 'Teal' seedlings, a beautiful pale blue;
Geissorhiza darlingensis (or is it?);
Calytrix sp. x 2 pics
cheers
fermi
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A few pictures of the troughs I'm playing with. I'm really enjoying the troughs and am looking to them getting a bit of age on them and to the plants growing and filling out.
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Raoulia parkii and Sempervivum arachnoideum
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Looking good Jamus. Did you make your troughs from concrete, must weigh a bit?
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I love your concrete tanks Jamus
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No not concrete, they are each made from a solid quarry cut, 500 x 350 x 200mm block of limestone. It's a soft stone and can be worked with hand tools or cut with a stone cutting disc. I found the hand tools MUCH less dusty. I will make more of these in the future as I prefer them to hypertufa.
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Papaver atlanticum (P. rupifragum ssp. atlanticum?)