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Title: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 01, 2016, 11:44:32 AM

Hi
Fermi, the concertina form likes right but the giveaway is the size it grows to. Pilgrim Clay normally hits about 6cms here so it is not miniature. The stem is relatively short. Pilgrim Clay is so big it stands out from a distance.
The flowers I am posting are a mixture: some are new seedlings; some are from crosses done many years ago; and some are species.
Some of the best new seedlings this year are a group of "ferals" (ie they are from seed that has fallen on the floor of the shadehouse or in the daffodil bed rows. One of the best is a miniature 1W-Y is a rescued flower that had been planted in our house garden.
We have had one of our wettest winters on record after one of our hottest autumns ever so it is little wonder that the daffodils are confused. However, having a N. dubius flowering this early opens up some unusual hybridising opportunities that we have never had before. The biggest problem is the wet weather.
The wet weather is ok as long as it is not wet in summer.
Quite a few of the miniatures flowering at the moment are from our wet program and they live in our shadehouse.
We have a lot of bulbocodiums and tazettas out at the moment so despite it being winter we have a lot of flowers out when you would least expect them to be flowering profusely.
It is nice to read that there are people who look forward to seeing my posts. The SLR camera and macro lense make it much easier to take photos.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 01, 2016, 11:50:31 AM
Part 2.
Some species photos for Rafa. The photo of what the label says is N. asturiensis var. vasconicus does not look right at all because it is so different to our other N. asturiensis var, vasconicus but also because it looks like it has an element of reverse bicolor to it.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 01, 2016, 11:54:33 AM
Hi
Part 3. Something very special for Lesley. It is not often I spot something as good as the N. romieuxii split cup.
Can someone tell me why I can't  use smiley's or change the font any more?
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on August 01, 2016, 12:20:26 PM
Love the pic of your pollinating helper, Graham!

No idea why you've lost  the ability to use smileys, change font etc - it seems a forum  SMF update  deleted most folks'  notification lists, so perhaps it's something to do with that, in  concert with some of your own browser  settings - sorry, such techy dtails are beyond me and do not seem to be easily explained!  ::) :-X :-[
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 05, 2016, 12:33:10 AM
Just a peek at a couple that I like this year.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 06, 2016, 07:20:39 AM
Hi
A few more photos. Lots of tazettas flowering earlier than normal. Lots of very small miniatures flowering as well.
The small white miniature in this group of photos is special because it opens white. A lot of our miniatures are W-Y under the RHS colour scale whereas this one would be classified as white.
Paul, that cyclamineus hybrid looks to have a bit of colour in it.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 06, 2016, 07:24:14 AM
Hi
Part 2.
A split cup intermediate for Lesley.
The dwarf papyraceous is out about 6 weeks earlier than last year.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 06, 2016, 07:29:12 AM
Hi
Part 3
The white-yellow certainly comes on a dwarf stem but the flower may be a tad large for miniature. It is a bigger flower than its relative which will appear in Part 4. Its relative is a smaller flower on a taller stem. However it is unusual coloured seedlings like these that provide the opportunity to breed something different.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 06, 2016, 07:31:32 AM
Hi
Part 4
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 06, 2016, 10:54:10 AM
Hi
Part 5
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 11, 2016, 02:37:50 AM
Hi people, a few more of interest, all miniatures

6Y-W and 6W-Y the former past its prime (pollinated)
6w-w
groupies
1y-y min under 50mm less than 20cm tall with excellent petal coverage
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 12, 2016, 04:51:40 AM
Hi people
a couple of the not so popular jonquillas

N. willkommii
N.calcicola --deleted

Note these calcicola bulbs originated in 2012 or 2013, from Rod B of Tasmania,the most knowledgeable daffodil specie grower in Australia, but as Graham has questioned them as not matching those in daffseek, and I tend to agree, I have removed the two photos of calcicola.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 12, 2016, 10:12:12 AM
Paul
What you have posted as N. calcicola does not appear to me to be N. calcicola. N. calcicola is usually multiheaded and the flowers much neater than the one in your photo. If you look at the photos of N. calcicola on Daffseek you will see what I mean. It looks like a species jonquilla but it is probably not N. calcicola.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 12, 2016, 11:44:23 AM
Hi Graham,
here are a couple of yours in flower today:
Narcissus KB-6WP-2-08
    "    KB-M-12YY-1-03 (N. cordubensis x N. cyclamineus)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 12, 2016, 12:53:57 PM
Hi
We have been doing a lot of hybridising to produce miniatures with lots of petal coverage. We have some very good seedlings now and we are working to produce more of them. We have some at the big end of miniature but most are small or micro minis.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on August 12, 2016, 02:04:16 PM
These teeny-weenies are cute!
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: annew on August 12, 2016, 05:27:59 PM
Great to get my mini-daff fix here while I'm up to my eyebrows in snowdrops.  >:(
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 13, 2016, 12:30:53 PM
Hi
A little of colour for you Anne.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 15, 2016, 01:44:36 PM
Narcissus blancoi and a second flower of Narcissus Limequilla X Emerald Sea.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 15, 2016, 02:00:16 PM
Narcissus 'Snook'
Narcissus fernandesii v. cordubensis
Narcissus (Jingle x Swagger) x N. cyclamineus
Narcissus 'Viriquilla'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 15, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
Perhaps best described as a novelty.It may open yet.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 15, 2016, 02:47:05 PM
A few more of note

Y-W mini
Mini
Triandrus sdls
various breeding stock for 6Y-R
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 15, 2016, 02:56:23 PM
This is a first flowering of  a Y-Y SDL in 2016. It's very encouraging to have such a result so early in the season, especially as I breed so few these days and I hope its' form, not to mention vigour, continues into the future.
2016-1
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on August 15, 2016, 03:40:39 PM
Lovely triandrus seedlings, Paul.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Yann on August 15, 2016, 07:04:27 PM
Y-W mini is  :o
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 21, 2016, 07:16:55 AM
Glad you like them Yann and Maggi. Yann, here is the mini Y-W that you like with a different poise, taken last year.There are quite a few of them now and I've pollinated them with a wide assortment of types and colours.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Yann on August 21, 2016, 04:04:17 PM
Really stuning colors, i hope you'll get seedlings, it's a king of lottery.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: annew on August 22, 2016, 08:31:06 PM
Glad you like them Yann and Maggi. Yann, here is the mini Y-W that you like with a different poise, taken last year.There are quite a few of them now and I've pollinated them with a wide assortment of types and colours.
Stunning, Paul!  :o
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 26, 2016, 09:44:08 AM
These came as Narcissus triandrus pallidulus seeds. Clearly they are NOT, but the flowers are huge, as you can see by comparison with other bulbocodium types.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 26, 2016, 12:57:58 PM
Hi
Part 1 of what is flowering now.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 26, 2016, 12:59:40 PM
Hi
Part 2 of what is flowering now.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 26, 2016, 01:15:34 PM
Hi
Part 3 of what is flowering now.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: vanozzi on August 28, 2016, 01:29:57 PM
Finally, a fairly decent mini 6W-P.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Yann on August 28, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
again a nice one Paul.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: annew on August 29, 2016, 08:06:45 PM
Cuties!
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 30, 2016, 12:01:59 PM
Part 1 of a few photos of a very small proportion of what is flowering now in Canberra.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 30, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
Part 2.
Title: Re: Narcissus August 2016
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 30, 2016, 12:05:31 PM
Part 3.
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