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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: shelagh on July 25, 2016, 02:53:05 PM

Title: unknown tree
Post by: shelagh on July 25, 2016, 02:53:05 PM: Can anyone help with this huge tree seen recently.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on July 25, 2016, 02:54:28 PM: Tulip tree?
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Post by: shelagh on July 25, 2016, 04:23:30 PM: No John I don't think so. I'm familiar with that one and the leaf is a different shape.
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Post by: johnw on July 25, 2016, 05:58:00 PM: Search under Poplar spp. Shelagh.

john
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Post by: Maggi Young on July 25, 2016, 07:49:43 PM: Not a straight Polpulus alba though.....
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Post by: majallison on July 25, 2016, 10:15:32 PM: Maybe a grey poplar, Populus x canescens; white poplar x aspen
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Post by: majallison on July 25, 2016, 10:27:28 PM: Looking at it again, I don't think it's a poplar; more likely a plane tree, Platanus sp
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Post by: shelagh on July 26, 2016, 09:34:05 AM: It didn't have the usual Plane tree bark Malcolm.
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Post by: Gerdk on July 26, 2016, 01:18:17 PM: Just a shot in the dark:
what's about a Morus species, perhaps Morus nigra?

Gerd
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on July 26, 2016, 01:25:50 PM: The leaf is wrong for Morus nigra.
Title: unknown shrublet
Post by: Gerdk on July 26, 2016, 01:27:36 PM: I wonder if someone knows this small shrublet - about 20 - 30 cm?
Unfortunately I lost the label (and the name, which I forgot unfortunately)

Gerd
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Post by: Pauli on July 26, 2016, 04:14:45 PM: Moltkia?
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Post by: shelagh on July 26, 2016, 04:27:14 PM: Yes that would be my answer as well. Moltkia.
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Post by: Gabriela on July 26, 2016, 08:52:44 PM: I agree with John regarding your tree Shelagh; it is a Populus, most probably alba, maybe a cultivar of it. The close up branch picture shows the variable leaves which is typical for the species.
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Post by: Gerdk on July 27, 2016, 09:15:48 AM: Quote from: Pauli on July 26, 2016, 04:14:45 PM
Moltkia?

Yes - full hit - thank you Pauli & Shelagh (added) !
Moltkia petraea - a name, hidden in a distant corner of my brain reappeared :)

Gerd
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Post by: Armin on July 27, 2016, 11:02:10 AM: Could it be Acer?
Acer x duretti (syn. Acer x coriaceum)
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Post by: shelagh on July 27, 2016, 03:05:11 PM: Armin I have been searching the web and I think it may be Acer campestris the English Field Maple which would fit for the size as well as the foliage.
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Post by: johnw on July 27, 2016, 06:11:47 PM: Undersides white or not. One darn big campaestre!

john - 23c and 86% humidity = humidex 34c
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Post by: ian mcdonald on July 27, 2016, 09:28:20 PM: It doesn,t look like A. campestre to me.
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Post by: shelagh on July 28, 2016, 09:40:35 AM: John I don't know if its too big. The Hall in whose grounds it is planted was built in the the early 1700's so it could have been planted any time since. I posted pictures of all the trees at Haughton Hall in the places to visit section.

Sorry did not check the underside of the leaves.
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Post by: Regelian on July 28, 2016, 11:45:10 AM: Shelgh,
if that was the bark in the background of the leaf foto, it can't be an Acer. They all have relatively smooth bark. That heavily corrigated bark would suggest Poplus or Betula, with the first being my guess. As they are all promiscuous, a Populus hybrid is likely.
J.