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Title: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 08, 2016, 10:23:06 AM
As many of you know, my longest interest in plant breeding lies with Hemerocallis, followed by non-bearded Iris.  Here are some of the first to bloom this season.

First is one I have introed, Angel Tower.  Very tall, 180cm with lots of lemony pink-blushed blossoms.  This is a pre-spike, blooming early and not as tall as the main flush, which is in July.
A new seedling with great substance and prescence.  Galaxy Rose x sdl
One of a group of very good seedlings from this cross, Ojo de Dios x Chokecherry Mountain.  Both parents are from a departed friend, Ned Roberts, who pioneered the spider and unusual form daylilies in the USA.
On Silken Thread (Lambertson) is a Florida-bread unusal form (UFo).
Another seedling from an unregistered from me (SilverSurfer, which I have since discarded) and another seedling line.  I will probobly discard this one, as well, due to the washed colour.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 08, 2016, 10:33:13 AM
And another seedling I may register.  Excellent substance, deals with our rain, is huge (20cm) and re-blooms.
(A Bodacious Pattern x Wild Wookie)xSeedling

A note on the Hemerocallis fotos: as Hemerocallis blossoms are so much more reflective than other garden flowers (they have a crystalline structure under the first cell layer), the colours and contrast are difficult to capture.  I therefore reduce the brightness on the shots, as well as adjust the colour, which often registers too blue.  On my computer the colours and impression are very accurate.  Maybe I'm splitting hair, but, just so you know.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Graeme on June 08, 2016, 05:42:02 PM
very nice- post more pictures of the seedlings
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 09, 2016, 08:34:34 AM
Graeme,
Glad you're enjoying them. I have new ones almost every day from now 'til end July.  Here are a couple from this morning.

First are two seedlings from the same cross: (Limited Edition x Skinwalker) X All American Windmill
The second cross has quite a few sibs coming: (Forever Island xString Bikini) X Twilight Sea.  Twilight Sea I registered a couple of years ago and is from Bali Watercolor X Swallow Tail Kite. I've added a shot for reference.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 12, 2016, 01:45:04 PM
With the rain, good fots were not happening.  Here is one from this morning.  A new seedling from a cross I made some years ago.  I really like this one!
Odds and Ends x Twilight Sea

And a two from fellow hybridizers
Spring Sensation
Blonde On The Inside
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 17, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
A few more seedlings.  The first to a from the same pod.
Swallow Tail Kite x Pegasus Galaxy

The third is another from the cross Forever Island x String Bikini X Twilight Sea
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 24, 2016, 09:46:48 AM
Despite the rain, a few somewhat dark seedlings.  When the weather cool then warm runs, purple Hemerocallis produce more intense colours.  It has to do with the anthocyanin production, but, if this is simply the temperature fluctuations or the slower bud developement, I cannot accertain.

First is a diploid from a long cross I did of Ojo de Dios X Chokecherry Mountain.  All dark and very handsome.  This one is 25cm across!
The next three are all from Swallow Tail Kite (Curt Hanson).

STKxSDL shows more of the mother.  Other parent was most likely Twilight Sea
STKxUNK is a bi-tone.  Father was from my String Bikini crosses, but i don't know which.
Still an absolute fav in the garden.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 24, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
Here are three seedlings from Temple of the Muses.  The curling effect was a bit unexpected.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 24, 2016, 09:56:20 AM
And a few miscellenious bit from my programm.

The first is from Blues Avenue (Mort Morss), which was a breakthrough in blue eye-zones.
The second is a diploid from Heavenly Flight of Angels (Gossard).  Big blossom, but the scape is a bit weak.  If two or three are open, it will be in the dirt!
A similar diplois, but in yellow.  Cerulean Star x SDL Xsdl.
This tet is from my first crosses a few generations later.
The last is very dynamic and it will be interesting to see how the plant developes.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on June 27, 2016, 04:03:42 PM
Well, this first one is certainly wierd for current tastes in Hemerocallis.  It doesn't seem to know if it wants in or out.  I think I'll name it 'Brexit'.
Another of my spideries, this time quite pastel.  Not fab, but may be a good parent.
Photon Torpedo is a favourite in the garden, but it produces relatively few new looks.  I just like this one and is rain-fast.
I've been experimenting with 'other' oranges and kind of like this one.
Temple of the Muses has given some cool off-spring, but this is a killer flower.  Other parent is Twilight Sea.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on July 01, 2016, 05:22:13 PM
Here are two more seedlings from Curt Hanson's 'Photon Torpedo'.  It is interesting that almost all introductions fro PT are from the original authour, Curt himself.

Photon Torpedo x tet Holly Dancer, has the best from both parents.
Photon Torpedo x SDL (from Kirchoff's Power Lipstick)
another Swallow Tail Kite seedling, this time a bi-tone.  Very delicate colouring.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: ThomasHe on July 05, 2016, 02:47:30 PM
here are some of my Hemerocallis
- this is midnight
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: ThomasHe on July 05, 2016, 02:48:53 PM
fooled me
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: ThomasHe on July 05, 2016, 02:50:28 PM
american revolution
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on July 14, 2016, 03:27:41 PM
Thomas,

Fooled Me is a great daylily!

Here are a few more seedlings that opened during the last week.  With the hail we had, good blossoms (non-punctured!) were rare.

The first two are sisters from Dark Crystal x Lola Branham.  Quite pleased with this cross!

The third is Dark Crystal, one of my kids from 2012.
number 4 is a Lola Branham line seedling.  As LB is not pod fertile, I can only use her pollen. This seedling is 2 generations away from LB, but the influence is strong.
Here are three seedlings from the same cross, Zuni Thunderbird x (Victoran Ribbons x Prague Spring).  Interesting with purple breeding, you often get near-whites and pale lemons. By some genetic quirk (OK, this is homozygous recessive for both pigment paths) one has turned off the anthocyanin genes, as well as most of the carotene genes.  There are no pure whites in Hemerocallis.



Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on July 14, 2016, 03:33:23 PM
These are all seedling with Yuan Topp as the mother.  A very productive line based on Limited Edition x Puzzling Prize, two much older daylilies.

Unfortunately, none of these will be saved, as they have not surpased the parents, although I rather like the brown one.  The last one is almost 2 meters tall and doesn't hold up well to wind!  maybe suited to a very large hanging basket?
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: ThomasHe on July 15, 2016, 09:29:43 AM
thank you Jamie, they are all very nice..... that's sometimes a problem. Very nice pictures of yours, keep them coming.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: David Nicholson on July 15, 2016, 10:17:59 AM
Not something I grow Jamie but I do enjoy your pictures and notes.
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Graeme on July 15, 2016, 10:58:58 AM
keep posting pictures they are stunning - makes all the yellow ones we have look very sad

the yellow to a bronze/burnt edge looks a fantastic plant - however the purple ones really take my eye
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on July 25, 2016, 11:45:30 AM
A third seedling I've saved from this cross.  All have height and great scapes, not to mention monster blossoms. Chokecherry Mountain x Lola Branham
The next two sibs are from a line I've been developing for coral-pinks with green throats.  The mother, a seedling I call Coral Chalice (may still register it) crossed with Ned Robert's Dream Catcher.  The intense green of the throats did not photograph well.
Here is a pink involving H. fulva rosea, along with my Yuan Topp line.
Neighbourhood cat, who I call Spot, and prefers my garden to others for some reason.  Could it be the food I put out?
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 25, 2016, 02:21:04 PM
Hi Jamie,
Quite interesting flowers there!
BTW, I've been inspired by you to buy my first "Spider" type - I think it's an older cultivar and is called "flycatcher" -which sounds quite appropriate! ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on July 25, 2016, 09:34:48 PM
Fermi,
Flycatcher is a great cultivar.  A very clear red with radiant green throat.  I use the tetraploid conversion in my current breeding (original is dploid). You'll enjoy it.  Nice to hear you took the plunge into spiders.  Although I hybridize rounder forms, as well, the movement of the spiders and UFs bring an additional dimension, especially the taller cultivars at the back of the garden.

cheers,
Jamie
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on December 23, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
First Flower on Daylily 'Flycatcher'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on December 24, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Nice, Fermi,  looks like you have a lot of buds to go, too.
cheers,
Jamie
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on December 24, 2016, 01:21:50 PM
Hi Jamie,
Is it worth self-pollinating it or should I wait till I get another spider to cross it with?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hemerocallis-2016
Post by: Regelian on December 25, 2016, 03:48:03 PM
Fermi, as you have no other spiders available, a selfing may be interesting.  Certainly most offspirng will be red, but a few yellows would pop-up, as well.  Takes about 2-3 years to bloom in my climate, but warmer climates pull off a maiden bloom in 18 months.  And you gotta start somewhere.
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