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Title: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on June 01, 2016, 04:00:56 AM
First day of winter and we had the first hard frost yesterday which means these Gladiolus dalenii won't last long!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on June 01, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
No frost here yet... tonight is going to be a cold one.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on June 03, 2016, 09:36:15 AM
First day of winter and we had the first hard frost yesterday which means these Gladiolus dalenii won't last long!
cheers fermi

Saw a lovely flowering potful of these for sale this arvo at our local garden center Fermi --I picked the pot up , hesitated and placed the pot down again ,went inside the store and returned a different way back to the vehicle .... just about got my impulse buying under control ....... :P

Anyway here on the property the birds have flown the nest for sunnier climes and the 'fungi' family have moved in for the winter although one of them seems rather shy..... ;)
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on June 03, 2016, 09:42:04 AM
.................arvo..................................

 ???
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on June 03, 2016, 09:51:37 AM
???

afternoon

' arvo'  noun Australian/NZ informal ....... :)

Thought I'd give that little bit of extra detail Mr Nicholson before you started weighing into me about speaking English .... ;)  ;D
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on June 03, 2016, 10:45:49 AM
afternoon

' arvo'  noun Australian/NZ informal ....... :)

Thought I'd give that little bit of extra detail Mr Nicholson before you started weighing into me about speaking English .... ;)  ;D

Well I did wonder ;D
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 03, 2016, 01:05:21 PM
Frost this morning. Stunning sunset again tonight.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on June 04, 2016, 12:00:34 PM
tOOlie, I admire your self-restraint! Not a quality I've found in myself, though ;D

At our Rock Garden Group meeting this arvo we had a small display but some very nice plants.
1) a view of the bench
2) George S's Cyclamen (? graecum) with great foliage;
3) George's Haemanthus which he thinks might be a hybrid between H. albiflos and H. pauculifolius
4) George's Lachenalia congesta
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on June 04, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
Should I presume that mornings are 'marvo' and nights are 'narvo' :P ;D
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on June 04, 2016, 10:27:46 PM
Should I presume that mornings are 'marvo' and nights are 'narvo' :P ;D

"You might very well say that, I couldn't possibly comment".  :o

David I've just watched a rerun of the whole series of that wonderful TV production 'House of Cards'.  ;)
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 05, 2016, 03:26:08 AM
Your lachenalias are well on Fermi. Mine are still in nice leaf but the buds are some weeks away. Of course they are all outside, albeit covered now with frost cloth.

The cyclamen looks like hederifolium to me, as good as 'Bowles' Apollo.' Good seed there too. :) Could be graecum I suppose. Check the flowers next time around.

Not much alpine out here. A few crocuses/galanthus/last cyclamen (mostly cilicium) and first narcissus, whiteish bulbocodium types. And the first Cyclamen coum and a good Acaulimalva. (Trying to get photo sorted.  ???)
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on June 05, 2016, 10:22:54 AM

David I've just watched a rerun of the whole series of that wonderful TV production 'House of Cards'.  ;)

One of my favourites Dave. It's something that get's picked out of the bookcase regularly on long Winter evenings when there's nothing on the telly (as there usually isn't!). Another favourite is the George Smiley box set with 'Smiley's People' and 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy'
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: vivienne Condon on June 05, 2016, 11:41:24 AM
I was wondering if some one could identify this prostrate willow from the Himalayan Mts. please. Otto imported it some years ago from Hollett Nursery UK. I am wanting to do a small article on Salix for the rock garden to find out what  Salix we still have, as they are no longer allowed into Australia as they are considered weeds. Thank you
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 05, 2016, 11:07:00 PM
I have a few Viv but this doesn't ring any immediate bells. It should be easier to identify with spring foliage and catkins. Somewhere I also have a lot of old Hollett catalogues from the days when we could but like much of my old material, they are still packed away in boxes. I'm reluctant to throw them out but have no room for them on the house. Not like Otto to forget a name though. :)
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: vivienne Condon on June 06, 2016, 11:59:25 AM
Thank you Lesley for having a look at the willow, no it's not like Otto to forget a name but I think it may come to him one day. I could also check with Ken Gillanders he was selling a few dwarf Salix at times, I also have his old catalogues I might go through those to see if I can glean something from them.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on June 06, 2016, 11:16:43 PM
Euphorbia flanaganii

Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 06, 2016, 11:48:47 PM
Good luck with it Viv. I hope you and all my Aussie friends are well away from this filthy weather Australia's east is having at present. The world's weather has lost all predictability and no season can be relied upon to behave as it should. Your weather is coming our way but will have lost its viciousness by the time we get it - I hope. Anyway, keep warm and dry and cheerful if you can. :)
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on June 07, 2016, 12:36:16 AM
I have recently acquired a few dwarf willows, some from Otto and one from Trevor Nottle here in Adelaide. They are all dormant at the moment and I don't know much about them, but I'll be sure to try to get positive identifications on the ones I"m growing and pass on the info to you Vivienne.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on June 07, 2016, 07:55:03 AM
Viv and Lesley , my brain is working again :the dwarf willow is Salix fruticulosa , which has at least 2 synonyms S. hylematica  and S. serpyllum . bearing charming small reddish catkins in spring .
Steady rain here but fortunately no deluge and floods here as along the eastern coast line .
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 07, 2016, 08:35:27 AM
That's good Otto that you are safe, and high if not dry. Hopefully all others are too.
Also glad your brain has swung into action about the little willow. S. hylametica is a gem even if a rather generous one. I have a friend her with a single plant nearly 4 metres in width as it has crept along and rooted as it goes but the catkins are lovely. I didn't know the name fruticulosa. I think a different species is grown here, or was, as S. serpyllum.

The late Stewart Preston near Dunedin had a number which were not in general cultivation here and some had incredibly good catkins but I don't know what happened to them when he died 3 years ago.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: vivienne Condon on June 07, 2016, 09:08:34 AM
Thank you Jamus I will be very pleased to hear what you are growing and Trevor as well. I am worried we have lost Salix repens, and Salix reticulata which were two of my favourites unless some one has it in Tasmania.
Very cold and wet Lesley and no power today as they are putting up new electricity poles, cement for the bush fires, thank goodness we haven't had all that wild weather but we seem to have lost a few people. They insist on driving through flood waters. I would like to know what Salix Stewart Preston was growing would Susan know? Thanks Lesley.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ashley on June 07, 2016, 11:14:41 PM
Sorry for the intrusion but does anyone here grow Drymophila cyanocarpa and might spare a few seeds?
Marcus Harvey kindly sent me some a few years ago but I didn't manage to get any germination, so hope to try again.  Advice very welcome.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 07, 2016, 11:19:00 PM
Viv I'll ask Susan about Stewart's salix plants. Stewart sometimes was a bit secretive about what he had especially if he thought you might want it! I remember him telling me years ago that the salix species were sent as seed from Canada and the USA.

Weather here in the south continues fine with lovely (though cool (12C) temps,) perfectly sunny and windless days and heavy frosts at night. Another last night with the added bonus of thick fog but by 10am this has cleared. The frost looks like snow on the ground.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: rob krejzl on June 07, 2016, 11:26:26 PM
Ashley re the Drimophylla:

I know where there's a small patch growing up on Kunanyi (Mt Wellington), and the fruits tend to hang on well into winter. I'll try and make time this weekend to look for you. The seed doesn't require any special treatment as I recall, just simple stratification followed by a spring germination.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ashley on June 07, 2016, 11:53:32 PM
That's very good of you Rob; thanks.  I'll send a PM with my address.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 10, 2016, 12:54:10 AM
Not really any further forward Viv. Susan is pretty sure that most of Stewart's were (turned out to be) S. hylometica and that yours looks pretty much like that, given it is in going-into-winter foliage, or rather, losing it.

I remember seeing a photo once of S. cascadensis, presumably from the American Cascade Mountains and that has remained forever in my mind even though a million other things have slipped away from it. The salix had large, soft pink catkins like bottle brushes, a wonderful plant.

Yesterday, although our lunch and coffee were pleasant (in a garden centre) and a good chat as always, there wasn't a thing we were tempted to spend money on.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: vivienne Condon on June 15, 2016, 07:50:57 AM
Thank you Lesley, I will just keep plodding away with the Salix, I knew it would take awhile anyway.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on June 21, 2016, 10:51:52 PM
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G. ikariae looking healthy in bud. This one given to me by Mr. Nottle on our first meeting.

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The annual Tropaeolum peregrinum self seeds every year, and although it is yellow I still like it.

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Daffodils bursting with promise.

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I was given a bunch of red tulips which were display pots at the Royal Adelaide Show. They were being thrown out after the show.

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Tropaeolum peltophorum, this year in a hanging pot.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on June 21, 2016, 11:11:33 PM
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This is Ferula lancerotensis, second year (or third?) from seed and hoping for flowers this year.

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Leptinella squalida (I love the name) colonising the crevices.

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Alpine plants in garden centres!?! I was very happy with this lot. I usually don't take my hands out of my pockets in nurseries, so a nice surprise.
Raoulia australis, Phlox subulata 'Amazing Grace', Scleranthus uniflorus, Erodium reichardii (nice!), Campanula portenschlagiana

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Narcissus bulbocodium 'Ben Bler' (thanks Otto)
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on June 22, 2016, 07:14:19 PM

This is Ferula lancerotensis, second year (or third?) from seed and hoping for flowers this year.

On first glance it looks like a very swanky bonsai!
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on June 22, 2016, 10:26:22 PM
Hehe.. I guess so, if I blur my vision. Forget your glasses Maggi?
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 23, 2016, 12:27:50 AM
On first glance it looks like a very swanky bonsai!

I thought bad hair day. It's been raining on it Jamus?
I have young seedlings of Ferula communis 'Glauca' which flowered at about 2 metres high, very spectacular and masses of seed to follow but they took 8 years to flower. Might be dead before the present batch get that far! ???

Your Narc. 'Ben Bler' looks very like 'Atlas Gold' and seems to have the same bloom time. Mine AG is just about out now.

The weather has gone haywire again. 20C yesterday one day after winter solstice and supposed to reach 10 today  but only 6C so far.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on June 23, 2016, 02:58:17 AM
Lesley I don't think it's Atlas Gold. I have that one and it is sleeping, not even above ground. Otto wouldn't make that mistake I don't think, and it came from him. :) Perhaps my photo is making it appear more golden, with the back lighting or something like that?

ps. The Ferula does have that weeping kind of habit, not it wasn't wet when I took that photo. It's nice isn't it?
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 23, 2016, 03:56:58 AM
No Jamus, I wasn't thinking your BB may actually BE AG. It was just the colour which looks the same on my screen anyway, I always feel AG is the prettiest yellow, not the harsh colour of the bulbocodiums but more definite that Nylon and the other early birds. And no, certainly Otto wouldn't make such a mistake. :D I have a nice picture somewhere of AG cups on a bed of snow and they have been filled with rain or melted snow, then frozen.
Title: Re: June 2016 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 23, 2016, 04:01:31 AM
No Jamus, I wasn't thinking your 'Ben Blur' may actually BE 'Atlas Gold,' it was just the colour which on my screen anyway, is much the same. I think AG is the prettiest yellow, not so harsh as the bulbocodiums but more definite than the early birds such as 'Nylon.' AG is shorter anyway and NO, Otto wouldn't have made such a mistake. :D
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