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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: johnralphcarpenter on April 01, 2016, 07:38:32 PM
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Narcissus jonquilla 'Bell Song'
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Bell Song
Salome
I am very happy ,at last I am able to post..
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Welcome to the Forum ikizzeki. I hope you'll enjoy posting here and reading what others have to say about their plants. For us "old timers" ( ;D ) it's always good to have some new input and especially from Turkey and your part of it, the home of so many fantastic and beautiful plants. I hope you'll show us many of your native bulbs over time.
And thank you both, gentlemen, for your pictures of 'Bell Song.' A few years ago I bought this from a garden centre and I like it very much (same as yours) but last year I was given a packet of 6 with the same name and though they were pink and white, the flowers were larger and had a much larger cup so I wasn't sure which was the true 'Bell Song.' Now I know. I like the way the slightly yellowish colour gradually changes to pink as it ages. Goodness knows what the other might be though. A photo later in the year.
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Thank you very much, Lesley Cox.You have motivated me. :)
With my warm wishes from Antalya , Turkey
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Some photos of the daffodil plantings at Wisley taken last week.
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That leaves dreamer Anne. What is funny to see in Narcissus bulbocodium is that they all want to look to the same place. This adds to the beauty of the mass effect.
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A couple flowering now: Narcissus 'Thalia'; and Narcissus radinganorum from Anne Wright.
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This is Narcissus x montielanus - ist parents are N. triandrus and N. blancoi
Gerd
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This is Narcissus x montielanus - ist parents are N. triandrus and N. blancoi
Gerd
Thanks, Gerd,
for posting - it's a real cutie :)
cheers
fermi
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This is Narcissus x montielanus - ist parents are N. triandrus and N. blancoi
Gerd
So pretty, Gerd.
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N. Tenuifolius x triandus
N. bulbocodium var filifolius
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Oh my! Gerd's Narcissus x montielanus is stunning!
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Narcissus pseudonarcissus
I saw millions of it today. All simular, the one a bit bigger or more or less yellow to another.
But i found one very special one (and its stable + fertile cause it seeds around - we found 5 good clumps of plant and collect only a few bulbs!!).
First you see the population
Second you see the found (right) and on the left you see a nomal pseudonarcissus
some pictures of it , we called it 'Beaute de wallonie'
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Very nice Ruben.
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Certainly very different find there with no trumpet- it must also be a silent 'Beaute de Wallonie'! ;D
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LOL, yes very silent without trumpet :-d
thanks maggi and John
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A very curious flower, Ruben.
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Some garden daffodils out now:
A Memorina group clone flower 5cm diam
An Asturiet group clone flower 4cm diam
A Springback group clone flower 4cm diam (latter three from Brian Duncan)
'Kaffry'
'Sulphur Star'
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Some more from the garden :
Narcissus 'Memorina Group' , purchased to Anne
Narcissus 'Fintry Beauty'
Narcissus 'Autocrat'
Narcissus Multamanta
Narcissus 'Damson'
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Multamanta looks interesting. Are these old-fashioned beauties from Croft 16? I've just been putting in an order.
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Thanks for kind comments!
Gerd
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Yes they're from Croft 16. Multamanta is from an exchange in sweden.
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Narcissus varduliensis, a.k.a. Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. leonensis
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Possibly the last of my Daffs for this season.
Narcissus 'Jumblie'
N. 'Sailboat'
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My garden daffs are just getting going!
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Some portraits:
Amabilis
Eystettensis
Lemon Silk
Lucifer
Midtown Noble
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More:
Sulphur Star
Swallow
Asturiet group
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A bit of a contrast:
Narcissus 'Beowulf'
Narcissus graelsii
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Finally, two little trumpet species:
N. nevadensis
N. yepesii
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Narcissus varduliensis, a.k.a. Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. leonensis
Are they the same thing?
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My garden daffs are just getting going!
How we differ, my February Gold were out in mid-January and Daffs were out when we visited Powderham Castle, near Exeter, two weeks before Christmas.
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How we differ, my February Gold were out in mid-January and Daffs were out when we visited Powderham Castle, near Exeter, two weeks before Christmas.
He lives in the banana belt, I tell you!
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.......... but see Anemones! Although my Corydalis have been good this year (apart from Craigton Blue which went to the great Garden in the Sky) my Erythroniums have been both late and disappointing. Also 2 weeks later than normal was my potted Prunus incisa 'Kojo-no-mai.
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Are they the same thing?
Apparently so. It certainly looks like N. pseudonarcissus.
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Finally, two little trumpet species:
N. nevadensis
N. yepesii
Lovely things Anne 8)
N. yepesii has been flowering here too for the last 10 days or so, ex seed from Brian Duncan several years ago. It has the longest pedicel of any daff I've seen, although I don't grow straight longispathus. Having checked with a ruler (sad I know ;D), it seems to match the original description (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1095-8339.1999.tb01846.x/pdf).
Your nevadensis look very happy. Here they are usually the latest of all, and still at least a week off flowering.
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Don't know the name of this garden cultivar, but I am very fond of it.
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Tow species narcissus in flower here, both from Anne, first is n. nevadensis and then n. rupicola, this has the tiniest flower I've ever seen on a narcissus, small but beautiful.
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1st flowers,sown June 2011
N. rupicola
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Rupicola is my favourite species, so sweetly scented too. It's the one that started me off on daffodils. :)
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I have just noticed Anne that Philip's plants face normally, whereas my plant looks skywards, it's still a delightful plant all the same.
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That will probably vary according to growing conditions.
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Mine are plunged in an outside bench that's only uncovered in Summer and no rain
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Hi
At this time of year, my wife often buys little pots of Tete-a-Tete from supermarkets. I was having breakfast this morning and noticed that one of the flowers in the pot on the table had 11 petals rather than the normal 6. Another flower from another stem on the same bulb had only 6 petals. Is this increased number relatively common and will it be the same next year or will the bulb revert to normality?
Took the pot out to the garden to take the picture below.
Bob
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A full extra set of petals Bob.
It has been years since I have seen the real Tete-a-Tete all I see being offered nowadays is Tete - with only one flower per stem.
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Thanks Ian.
One of the other bulbs in this pot has two flowers on one of the stems. Seems like a good buy of 3 bulbs in a pot for £1.
I always plant the bulbs from these little pots out when they have finished flowering. So now quite a lot in odd spots around the garden. Whether they are the real Tete-a-Tete or not they bulk up, flower early and have kept going for ages this year.
Bob
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Thursday we were in northern Nova Scotia checking out a Galanthus/Leucojum woodland and were very surprised to see seedling Narcissus about. The foliage .7cm wide was quite refined, bluish green with a distinct corkscrew twist, all quite uniform and perhaps 10-11cm tall at this point. As for flowering time the buds were just emerging from between the leaves and the flowering stem was only up about .5cm. For those in the Europe I'd guess it might flower normally about a week or two after the Leucojum vernum finish. Presuming it is a species and not a hybrid would anyone care to take a stab at an identification?
Aside from Pheasant's Eye I can't say I've ever seen a Narcissus seedling in Nova Scotia.
Perhaps it is something else though I can't imagine what.
johnw
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The festival of plants of the Enghien castle in Belgium. I brought a Narcissus bulbocodium conspicuus. Unfortunately, it is already faded, I forgot to take a picture fresh blooming flowers.
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I also brought bulbocodium Narcissus 'Golden Bells'. It begins to bloom.
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Thursday we were in northern Nova Scotia checking out a Galanthus/Leucojum woodland and were very surprised to see seedling Narcissus about. The foliage .7cm wide was quite refined, bluish green with a distinct corkscrew twist, all quite uniform and perhaps 10-11cm tall at this point. As for flowering time the buds were just emerging from between the leaves and the flowering stem was only up about .5cm. For those in the Europe I'd guess it might flower normally about a week or two after the Leucojum vernum finish. Presuming it is a species and not a hybrid would anyone care to take a stab at an identification?
Aside from Pheasant's Eye I can't say I've ever seen a Narcissus seedling in Nova Scotia.
Perhaps it is something else though I can't imagine what.
johnw
Hi John,
I've been mulling this puzzle over today.
The only Narcissus species I know of with distinctly corkscrew twisted leaves is N. tortifolius, but I think it is unlikely that this is your plant - it is a tazetta type and grows in a distinctly Mediterranean climate. I saw it in Spain recently growing in semi-desert conditions, so not the conditions you are likely to have there.
Is there any chance it was an Allium perhaps?
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Hi John,
I've been mulling this puzzle over today.
The only Narcissus species I know of with distinctly corkscrew twisted leaves is N. tortifolius, but I think it is unlikely that this is your plant - it is a tazetta type and grows in a distinctly Mediterranean climate. I saw it in Spain recently growing in semi-desert conditions, so not the conditions you are likely to have there.
Is there any chance it was an Allium perhaps?
When friend first pointed them out he said Allium? and I asked if there was foliage scent, he said no foliage scent. Certainly not a med climate up there so may you well be correct. Will flower in short order and I'll photograph them when they do. In the meantime I can't say I know the range Allium leaf types well enough to even begin and all I can say is that the flower buds looked like Galanthus buds as they emerge but one could almost see through them suggesting a white flower in there.
Thanks, john
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The festival of plants of the Enghien castle in Belgium. I brought a Narcissus bulbocodium conspicuus. Unfortunately, it is already faded, I forgot to take a picture fresh blooming flowers.
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I also brought bulbocodium Narcissus 'Golden Bells'. It begins to bloom.
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Did you buy them or bring them to the show John?
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Did you buy them or bring them to the show John?
I have buy them.
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I bought some bulbocodium at a garden centre. Dry bulbs, that are a hit or a miss, as they are imported from Europe, so are six months out of date! Last year I didn't bother as every packet I checked in three garden centres had no viable bulbs in them. They were all as dry as a crisp.
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N. 'Solveig's Song'
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This Narcissus nobilis var. leonensis a.k.a.Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. leonensis has been raided by a bee.
Narcissus nevadensis, two flowers on one scape
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Is there a guide to old daffodils? I was quite taken by this one when visiting an Open Garden last weekend but I would not know where to begin in identifying it.
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Try the website of Croft 16 (http://croft16daffodils.co.uk/how-daffodils-are-grouped/). The Donalds specialise in heritage daffs.
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Some of the triandrus hybrids are looking nice now
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'Petrel'
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'Thalia'
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More narcissi in the garden, generally shamefully neglected I'm afraid to say.
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N. moschatus. These need dividing, though as they are entangled in tree roots this won't be easy.
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I've lost the label of this cyclamineus hybrid, but it just keeps getting better!
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'Peeping Tom' under a plum tree.
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'Jetfire'. This one never does well for me in the border, but in this overgrown spot it actually seems to be increasing. It is supposed to be very prone to narcissus fly - perhaps they can't get at it under all that grass?
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N. nevadensis.
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'Humming Bird'. Only planted last year, so hardly an impressive display yet!
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Hi Tristan, I'm afraid to say your N. nevadensis don't look quite like those I saw in Spain recently. In N. nevadensis the corona does not have a flared rim, which I think I can see in your plants. Do you have a better photo of the flowers?
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Quite possible Matt - just googled it and I see what you mean. It's from RHS lily group seed exchange about 10 years ago so I guess a misident or garden hybrid is possible. Attached is a cropped version of the same photo, will try to get a better pic.[attach=1]
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Don't know the name of this garden cultivar, but I am very fond of it.
Do you think it has had a night on the tiles? :)
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Here is N.nevadensis I found in Spain, Tristan. You plant is very nice nonetheless and has a look of N. 'lobularis' about it (the Plantlist has it now as N. pseudonarcissus major)
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Great to see it in its natural habitat Matt
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N.bulbocodium 'Golden Bells Group'
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Philip please, what defines 'Golden Bells Group?' It seems to me that there are so many forms now of N. bulbocodium that it's impossible to isolate most. I have great variation in every batch of seed I raise. This is probably because all are grown in a reasonably small area. I select any really nice forms and throw the rest into next door's paddock and thrown a bit of compost over them. There is a 2 metre wide strip between our fence and the rest of the paddock where cows graze and it is protected by an electric fence on their side so they can't graze over into my garden.
I've been able to keep var obesus and var citrinus true but most others vary from seed. I have one which a friend calls "Billy Bunter" (not registered) which has very small flowers but they are very fat. The foliage is no wider than a darning needle.
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Lesley,I'm guessing it's as you describe.A seed raised strain,that's a bit variable.This one though is very vigorous and multiplies quickly.
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I'll take some photos in the spring (which seems a long way off just now). :(