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Title: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 16, 2016, 12:47:09 PM

I've posted these already elsewhere and mentioned that last year I posted pics of what we had been growing for many years as Nerine filifolia. A friend gave us what I think is the true form and it is in flower now,actually now more likely to be Nerine masoniorum! see below
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Robert on February 16, 2016, 03:48:27 PM

Fermi,

Very attractive!  :)

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: bulborum on February 17, 2016, 02:00:08 PM

Looks as the real one Fermi
Here mine and a dark selection

Roland

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 03, 2016, 01:34:29 AM

Roland,
thanks for your pics; a friend who is on FB told me that someone there thinks mine is actually N.masoniorum which is more likely than N. filifolia :-[

Despite seeing Nerine fothergilla in flower in other gardens (admittedly in cooler areas) finally there are some spikes arising on our clumps!
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 03, 2016, 05:05:38 PM

Hi fermi I'm looking forward to seeing this nerine in flower, I've not heard of this one. I see from your photo that the bulbs are well out of there ground, is that normal? Or has it happened overtime?

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 03, 2016, 11:28:44 PM

Hi John,
I think that Nerine fothergila "Major" and N.f."Minor" are simply names that were given to selections of Nerine sarniensis in Australia many moons ago. It's a good plant for this area as they withstand our frosts which usually burn off the foliage of other forms of Nerinr sarniensis.
Typically bulbs are planted with just the "necks" out of the ground but as the clump develops they push up out of the ground but are well anchored. Amaryllis belladonna does something similar,
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 16, 2016, 02:03:32 PM

Nerine rosea is now in flower,
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 16, 2016, 03:15:33 PM

Some more beauties fermi, you grow nerines so well.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on March 23, 2016, 06:30:31 PM

A few of you may recall this story which I reported last November under Nerine 2015:

"Shock #1

Going down to the basement this evening I knocked a seed packet off the shelf alongside the staircase. Picked it up when I got to the bottom and the folded newspaper packet said Nerine SPS-X8, records say it flowered last year in Oct.  The packet opened when it landed at the bottom of the stairs and low and behold not only had the seeds sprouted but 3 had single green leaves, most had a root, some had perished.  Duly potted up.  The next shock was just minutes later."

Well an update on those potted seedlings: photo#1 - a repeat shot of the 11 month old seed as found and photo #2 the seedlings a few days ago.

john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on March 23, 2016, 06:33:20 PM

How  much do bulbs WANT to live and grow? Magical, isn't it - not that I condone such plant abuse!

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 25, 2016, 01:42:11 PM

Quote from: fermi on March 03, 2016, 01:34:29 AM

... Nerine fothergilla ...finally there are some spikes arising on our clumps...

Despite the promise of a good show 3 weeks ago the outcome is very disappointing :'(
What happened? ???
Most of the spikes never extended and the first flower-head to open look like thrip have attacked it!
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 26, 2016, 01:07:58 PM

I wonder if any of the nerine growers on the forum would help me with a query? I recently bought a bulb of N.flexuosa Alba, some still use this name, some say it is now undulata and others say it's humilis. Does anyone know the correct name to use?

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 01, 2016, 08:25:32 AM

Quote from: johnstephen29 on March 26, 2016, 01:07:58 PM

I wonder if any of the nerine growers on the forum would help me with a query? I recently bought a bulb of N.flexuosa Alba, some still use this name, some say it is now undulata and others say it's humilis. Does anyone know the correct name to use?

Hi John,
I thought it had been included under N. undulata but I see that on the PBSwiki they say it should be N. humilis http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/NerineSpeciesTwo#humilis (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/NerineSpeciesTwo#humilis)
At least one of the Nerine fothergilla "Major" has decent flowers, the second pic particularly shows the "gold-dusting" which makes these blooms so irridescent,whoops, forgot to add the pics! See reply #14 below!
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 01, 2016, 03:11:44 PM

Hi fermi, I also thought it was now renamed undulata, but the garden centre where I bought it from had the old name, the pbs website has it as humilis. You don't know what to believe with this lot.
I really enjoyed seeing the fothergill pictures, I really must look out for seeds or bulbs to add to my collection.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 04, 2016, 08:23:18 AM

At least a couple of the Nerine fothergilla 'Major' heads have opened up normally
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on April 04, 2016, 01:06:17 PM

Quote from: fermi on April 04, 2016, 08:23:18 AM

At least a couple of the Nerine fothergilla 'Major' heads have opened up normally
cheers
fermi

And what a great colour they are.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on June 01, 2016, 01:11:12 PM

These three nerines have all flowered at the same time.
The largest is like a pink version of what I've grown up calling "N. flexuosa alba" but is now Nerine humilis as mentioned above!
The smaller one in the first pic (in the pot) came to us as N. crispa but is apparently now Nerine undulata.
The third one is the smallest of the three and was grown from seed as N. filifolia but it has wider leaves than it should so may actually be a hybrid....or some other species altogether - possibly even another form of N. undulata!
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on July 17, 2016, 04:53:44 PM

Nerine falcata flowering now.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on July 17, 2016, 07:06:13 PM

Great plant Ralph, I'll have to check mine to see if any flowers are showing. May I ask, do you leave your bubble wrap on all year round?

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on July 17, 2016, 08:15:10 PM

Yes, but only because I'm too lazy to remove it and then put it back. Probably easier in a greenhouse than my polytunnel.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on July 17, 2016, 11:01:44 PM

Oh right ;D I checked my plant no sign of a flower :(

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on August 07, 2016, 12:42:53 PM

Got this as Nerine filamentosa, which it may or may not be!

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 07, 2016, 06:24:19 PM

Nerine 'Zeal Salmon'.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on September 14, 2016, 10:10:14 PM

First Nerine to start flowering, a sarniensis hybrid from Sir Peter Smithers seed.


N. bowdenii flower stalks have appeared in the past few days.


Dry as a desert here, some major rivers have dried up and a few one can walk across.


john - +22c and what else, sunny. Humidity 78%.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on September 18, 2016, 04:07:02 PM

Hi can anyone please help me with identifying this nerine, I bought it as N. falcata, but from photos I've seen it's not that species. It looks more like N. Gracilis to me.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 19, 2016, 05:49:17 PM

Don't know, John, certainly not falcata.

Here's Nerine 'Nikita'.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Menai on September 19, 2016, 07:04:56 PM

This nerine was grown from Archibald seed that was listed as N. bowdenii 3.595.100 "Distinct from other N. bowdenii we have grown possibly...N. b. wellsii..the most cold-tolerant nerine in existence" Sown in Dec 2003 and germinating in March 3 bulbs grew erratically and failed to flower until now. The leaves are bright green 400x20mm. Is this N. undulata? Maybe I need to keep it under glass in the winter?

Erle in Anglesey

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: majallison on September 19, 2016, 09:53:09 PM

Erle, that's a good Nerine bowdenii wellsii with the significantly crimped tepals & also the wellsii types are often earlier flowering than the bulk of N. bowdeniis as found here in UK; Nerine undulata is quite a variable species, but as commonly found in UK cultivation, the flowers are much smaller than N. bowdenii & also tend to appear rather later

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on September 19, 2016, 10:04:44 PM

Erie, that's very elegant and I very much like the white centre.  For comparison here's 

Nerine bowdenii ssp. wellsii (hardiest strain) ex AGS seed 1993 Harry Hay, cw Mont aux Sources   from 2008 seed thanks to GerdK.  They flowered in 2015 and as you can see the crinkling on this one increases a few days after opening.  A sibling flowered yesterday, far earlier than other bowdeniis here by at least a month if not two. john - .22" of rain today!

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on September 20, 2016, 10:49:34 PM

Some tiny nerines in a frog pond.

N masoniorum in fruit. And N. Platypetala in flower.
They look the same to me

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Menai on September 20, 2016, 11:45:30 PM

Thank you John & Malcolm. My recently acquired  books on SA bulbs - du Plessis. Duncan et al. don't mention this ssp so I was confused.

Erle

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 23, 2016, 06:26:30 PM

Nerine humilis var. breachiae, Nerine 'Rushmere Star', Nerine 'Countess of Mulgrave'.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on September 23, 2016, 07:27:40 PM

Very nice Ralph, I'm still failing miserably to grow them.

Late next month I'm going to see a National Collection "of Hardy Nerines, N. sarniensis and cultivars, 3500 pots with in excess of 450 varieties". Will get some pictures if I can.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 23, 2016, 07:33:49 PM

Thank you David; not happy with the colour rendition of 'Countess of Mulgrave' so I had another go. This time the colour is correct but it is out of focus! Hey ho.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 01, 2016, 07:07:22 PM

Nerine 'Ophelia'.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 05, 2016, 08:10:41 PM

Nerine 'Mark Fenwick'.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: ashley on October 08, 2016, 10:19:35 PM

Nice plants Ralph 8) 
What I have as humilis var. breachiae is still a few days off opening but has emerging, upright leaves and looks similar to straight humilis.  It certainly doesn't fit the description of Breachiae Group (https://www.nerineandamaryllidsociety.co.uk/media/f7daef5e79c7bb98ffff8013ffffffd3.pdf) on the Nerine & Amaryllid Society website as 'Distinguished from typical N. humilis by the leaves, which appear as the flowers wither, being pressed flat against the ground.'  :-\

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 09, 2016, 01:51:02 PM

Nerine bowdenii. I bought this at the Great Dixter Autumn Plant Fair, from Hilliers. They said it is an unnamed seedling grown from seed collected by Tom Mitchell - there were a range of pinks available.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 09, 2016, 02:21:28 PM

Ashley  - A very elegant N. humilis!


john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 09, 2016, 06:26:22 PM

Nerine SPS- X6 originated from the first batch of seed (these were open-pollinated with female parent not noted) of Sir Peter Smithers' selected Nerines that he sent us many years ago.  I split the seed with Joe Harvey, these grew very quickly and Joe flowered the first one 18 months later.  This selection SPS -X6 of mine has flowered reliably every year, big flowers, 11 per truss.  Nerines are extremely difficult to photograph and capture the true colour plus sparkly bits, this shot taken under bench. 

The tag denotes one flower crossed with a white N. bowdenii ex Ken Hall.

johnw

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 11, 2016, 07:35:20 PM

Quote from: ashley on October 08, 2016, 10:19:35 PM

Nice plants Ralph 8) 
What I have as humilis var. breachiae is still a few days off opening but has emerging, upright leaves and looks similar to straight humilis.  It certainly doesn't fit the description of Breachiae Group (https://www.nerineandamaryllidsociety.co.uk/media/f7daef5e79c7bb98ffff8013ffffffd3.pdf) on the Nerine & Amaryllid Society website as 'Distinguished from typical N. humilis by the leaves, which appear as the flowers wither, being pressed flat against the ground.'  :-\

Like this?

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Michael J Campbell on October 11, 2016, 08:51:31 PM

Nerine sarniensis, Hyb

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: brianw on October 11, 2016, 10:50:58 PM

There were several "Amarines" round in the garden centres last year. In bud/flower then. I have grown some nice leaves but no flowers this year so far. Advice welcome. Mine are in large pots. Maybe they need starving.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 12, 2016, 01:40:41 AM

Great colour and form Michael!

Quite taken today by the colour and sturdiness  of N. bowdenii 'Isabel', she weathered yesterday's huge storm.

john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Senecio 2 on October 12, 2016, 03:27:38 AM

Quote from: johnstephen29 on March 26, 2016, 01:07:58 PM

I wonder if any of the nerine growers on the forum would help me with a query? I recently bought a bulb of N.flexuosa Alba, some still use this name, some say it is now undulata and others say it's humilis. Does anyone know the correct name to use?

For what it is worth below are pics of what I grow as N. humilis and N. flexuosa. N. flexuosa alba is grown by the thousands outdoors in New Zealand as a winter cut flower and has the same form as the pink one in the photo.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2016, 08:01:08 PM

Together with friends Mike Quest and Stanley Chapman today we went to visit a National Collection of hardy Nerines, N. sarniensis and cultivars with over 3,000 plants. The collection is maintained by Steve Eyre at his lovely cottage in the grounds of Bickam House, Nr. Exeter where Steve is Head Gardener. As well as the more hardy plants out in the garden in borders Steve has around seven greenhouses and polytunnels housing those that are more tender.

As befitting a National Collection the plants were meticulously labeled but there were simply too many for me to keep notes of all of them and at least five images I have labeled 'named var'.

The first 4 following were all N. bowdenii in garden borders:-

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2016, 08:05:14 PM

More Nerines:-

Two named bowdenii cultivars, 'Mollie Cowie' and 'Nikita'

Three general shots from greenhouses

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2016, 08:07:23 PM

.... and more:-

more general shots from greenhouses

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2016, 08:11:41 PM

.... and yet more:-

N. 'Wolsey'
N. 'Hamenco'
N. 'Clarabel'
N. 'Kariba'
N. 'Stephanie'

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2016, 08:15:46 PM

and to finish five named vars.

Being the worst Nerine grower in the world I wasn't going to buy anything but couldn't resist and took home a couple of bowdenii's in the hope that they might bring me luck!

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: ashley on October 13, 2016, 09:51:49 PM

Great to see these David, thank you 8)
When cultivar names are so often mixed up in the trade it helps too to have a record here of some accurately labelled plants.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2016, 10:45:32 PM

You're very welcome Ashley.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 13, 2016, 10:58:49 PM

Smashing David.  A NC to see next time in Exeter.


Methinks 'Stephanie' was being sold as a bowdenii by Jacque Amand at the RHS Winter Show a few years back. 


john - more rain tonight, 7mm, badly needed but not in Cape Breton where the damage is extensive.  17c.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: majallison on October 14, 2016, 08:56:14 PM

Quote from: johnw on October 13, 2016, 10:58:49 PM

Smashing David.  A NC to see next time in Exeter.


Methinks 'Stephanie' was being sold as a bowdenii by Jacque Amand at the RHS Winter Show a few years back. 


john - more rain tonight, 7mm, badly needed but not in Cape Breton where the damage is extensive.  17c.

There is a pale-flowered bowdenii called 'Stefanie', but also a sarniensis variety, quite widely grown, bred at Borde Hill by Col. Robert Stephenson Clarke & this one is 'Stephanie'

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 15, 2016, 03:34:48 AM

Thanks for the clarification Malcolm. 


john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 17, 2016, 12:02:01 PM

Nerine 'Elegance Gem', a tall robust cultivar.

Nerine x mansellii.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 17, 2016, 01:47:31 PM

The main wave of Nerine sarniensis hybrids is just starting. Here two previously unflowered seedlings.


johnw

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 17, 2016, 11:00:04 PM

The former one today.


johnw

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: ashley on October 18, 2016, 02:47:13 PM

Your own crossings John?  How long do they take from seed?

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 18, 2016, 08:15:48 PM

More, and I hope better, pictures of Nerine x mansellii.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2016, 08:20:00 PM

Quote from: johnralphcarpenter on October 18, 2016, 08:15:48 PM

More, and I hope better, pictures of Nerine x mansellii.

Good strong pink, isn't it?  I like that - and I've a soft spot for the red ones too.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 18, 2016, 08:21:30 PM

Yes Maggi, they are all special in their own way.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 18, 2016, 09:20:40 PM

Quote from: ashley on October 18, 2016, 02:47:13 PM

Your own crossings John?  How long do they take from seed?

Most of the ones in flower were originally from Sir Peter Smithers. The first batch he sent were o.p. from his selected hybrids.  As we did so well with them he sent his last batch of hand-pollinated crosses to us before he sent the collection on to Exbury.


Joe flowered one from batch one in 16-18 months, usually 2-3 years or at 3-5cm in diameter will produce a stalk.


john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 21, 2016, 05:25:50 PM

Another shot of Nerine bowdenii 'Isabel', a good sturdy bowdenii.

The ever dependable N. x sarniensis 'Cherry Ripe' which might appeal to Maggi.

A seedling of the cross N. PS 2 -01 'Quest' x ('Zambia' x 'Ken Scott'), doesn't pass the quality test.

A small-flowered pale salmon though with a good flower count.

johnw

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 21, 2016, 05:56:51 PM

Nerine 'Wolsey' really is Cardinal red.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 23, 2016, 02:14:54 PM

Quote from: majallison on October 14, 2016, 08:56:14 PM

There is a pale-flowered bowdenii called 'Stefanie', but also a sarniensis variety, quite widely grown, bred at Borde Hill by Col. Robert Stephenson Clarke & this one is 'Stephanie'

And here is Nerine bowdenii 'Stefanie'.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 23, 2016, 06:48:45 PM

Ralph  - I wonder if this N. bowdenii might be 'Stefanie'?  It's growing in a friend's garden.


johnw - +13c, windy at 33kt with gusts to 50kts.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 23, 2016, 07:51:51 PM

Could well be - it is quite widely available in UK - don't know about Canada.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 24, 2016, 01:27:35 AM

Quote from: johnralphcarpenter on October 23, 2016, 07:51:51 PM

Could well be - it is quite widely available in UK - don't know about Canada.

All would have come from Holland.


john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 25, 2016, 05:00:41 PM

I wonder how many growers wait long enough to properly assess their Nerine seedlings.  Here is a new one, Nerine PS-09-05, a cross of 'David Lionel' x ('Bagdad' x 'Pantaloon') by Sir Peter Smithers.  It first flowered on 9 November 2014 and was described as late, 5 flowers per truss, small flowers purple with red central stripes.  This year it opened 25 October, the description reads: 8 flowers per truss, very bright and strong red with barely developing purple edges - not late.  One can only hope the purple disappears down the road and the flower size and count increases.  Quite a starling colour though a most uncooperative photo subject.


john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: ashley on October 25, 2016, 05:17:40 PM

You have a nice collection John.
Although I grow only a few I find that colour varies somewhat from year to year, including species.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on October 25, 2016, 07:05:50 PM

Quote from: ashley on October 25, 2016, 05:17:40 PM

You have a nice collection John.
Although I grow only a few I find that colour varies somewhat from year to year, including species.

Ashley  - While some of the colour changes have been rather minor others are dramatically different. As in:


 

2014 - 11 FLWRS / TRUSS, SPIDERY FLWRS,  SALMON BUT FAINT TINGE OF PURPLE, WHITISH CENTRES, ANTHERS BLACK PURPLE EMRGING & CHANGING TO WHITE.

2011 - 9 FLWRS / TRUSS, MATTE DARK CORAL PINK

2010 - 9 FLWRS /    TRUSS, LARGE PURPLE PINK

john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 28, 2016, 07:29:38 PM

Given that I can't grow Nerines for toffee, here's a couple of bowdenii clones I bought from my visit to the National Nerine Collection a couple of weeks ago. The odds against them appearing in these pages next year are pretty low :-[

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: ashley on October 28, 2016, 08:14:49 PM

Those look nice David.  I'm sure they'll do fine for you in the garden, especially if it's a sunny, well-drained spot.
Last week in north Clare I saw a small garden with borders completely full of N. bowdenii in front of a pale blue house (no photos unfortunately).   

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on October 28, 2016, 08:46:11 PM

They grow like weeds in many gardens in Devon Ashley, but sadly never in mine....... so far ;D

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: ashley on November 07, 2016, 01:14:32 PM

N. x mansellii is later here than with Ralph.

Another N. humilis clone (received as var. breachiae, but I suspect not :-\), smaller, much paler & about 4-6 weeks later than the one shown earlier (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=14060.msg365152#msg365152).

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: YT on November 09, 2016, 08:44:12 AM

Nice nerines, all :D

A salmon colour seedling is full blooming :)

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: arilnut on November 09, 2016, 11:57:31 PM

Here is nerine bowdenii white in Kansas zone 6

John B

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on November 10, 2016, 01:31:48 AM

Quote from: YT on November 09, 2016, 08:44:12 AM

Nice nerines, all :D

A salmon colour seedling is full blooming :)

YT  - Exquisite shape, how many flowers in the truss?


john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on November 10, 2016, 02:16:15 AM

Quote from: arilnut on November 09, 2016, 11:57:31 PM

Here is nerine bowdenii white in Kansas zone 6John B

John  - I assume you grow this outdoors.  Do you notice mal-formed stigmas, styles missing stigmas even styles becoming petaloid on your white as I do on 'Blanca Perla' and Ken Hall's white?  One has to go looking for good stigmas to pollinate on both and then pollen is scarce.  I've managed to isolate the pair to cross them but it has taken mulitple attempts to work even where a good stigma is found. I notice a couple of stigma-less styles that may have taken pollen successfully though the jury's still out.


johnw - glorious autumn day @ +12c

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: arilnut on November 10, 2016, 02:54:44 AM

HI John. This is the first time it has bloomed, been growing a few years.
Bloom isn't fully expanded and I don't know the particulars of these yet.

John B

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: YT on November 10, 2016, 06:24:00 AM

Quote from: johnw on November 10, 2016, 01:31:48 AM

YT  - Exquisite shape, how many flowers in the truss?

There are 15 floret, Johnw :)

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on November 10, 2016, 07:43:27 PM

YT


15 seems to be the magical number for a full ball truss.  I have a number of 14 flower ones and hoping that may increase when potted individually.


Thanks for the count.


john

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on November 15, 2016, 12:11:44 AM

Another Nerine PS-09-08   ['David Lionel'  x  ('Bagdad' x 'Pantaloon')-25519a].  I wasn't terribly fond of this colour but friends like it, it will have to produce more flowers per truss if it wants to avoid the old heave ho.


john - a +14c & sunny day.

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on November 18, 2016, 05:53:54 PM

This came as Nerine gaberonensis

I looked in Graham Duncans booklet Grow Nerines and he says Nerine gaberonensis has smooth pedicils and peduncles and lots of flowers. This plant has slightly hairy pedicils and peduncles. And only 6 flowers in the umbel.
Also no dark line on center of the flowers.

what is this ?

Title: Re: Nerine 2016
Post by: johnw on November 25, 2016, 02:27:10 AM

A couple from the past week.

1.

Nerine PS-01-01   {['Durru Shehvar'  x ('Belladonna' x 'Stephanie')-26425a]  x  (Mrs. Cooper x Victor')-25504b} - colour very saturated. 2. Nerine PS-10-09 [('Wavebush' x 'Foudroyant')-27320b  x  'Tibet']  x  [('Tibet' x ('Wavebush' x 'Foudroyant')-27320b)]-30707 - colour very odd upon opening, brownish tones. 3. N. flexuosa 'Alba' 4. N. undulata ( ??? ) johnw

ps - Site not liking pasting from Excel.....