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Title: Dionysia 2016
Post by: ruweiss on February 07, 2016, 08:30:15 PM: Dionysia janthina
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 08, 2016, 09:12:35 PM: Dionysia curviflora -One of the easier species, but I need to walk before I can run.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1623/24273601804_c5179afd23_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Graeme on February 08, 2016, 11:24:52 PM: Steve - is that in a pot?
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 09, 2016, 12:42:05 AM: Yes it's in a claypot top-dressed with thick pieces of weathered slate.
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Michael Mauser on February 09, 2016, 10:07:49 PM: Hello Rudi,

thank you for this thread and your nice Dionysia janthina. And the picture of D. curviflora is also beautyfull.

Here are some impressions of the Dionysias in the Botanical Gardens of Tübingen, pictures are from this morning
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ch8SMSD4zq4/Vrns1paiJMI/AAAAAAAAAD4/IBKdq1dKODs/s1600/DSCN1031.JPG)
overview Dionysia-propagation

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_4LdmLvpJiI/Vrnszc8u3UI/AAAAAAAAAD0/GZI85KQJAu4/s1600/DSCN1032.JPG)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oDjN0aZ6Mow/Vrn8sK79_jI/AAAAAAAAAEM/wFk94ytL9oE/s1600/DSCN0977.JPG)

Dionysia bornmuelleri (we collect all kind of Dionysias)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hppu10Gi11o/Vrn8r0K96YI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/Cb557qfuEQ8/s1600/DSCN0978.JPG)

Dionysia aretioides

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7uboqiLPc9I/Vrn8sx01-gI/AAAAAAAAAEU/PICIUx5niFY/s1600/DSCN0980.JPG)

Dionysia afghanica GW/H 1308
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Michael Mauser on February 09, 2016, 10:15:15 PM: some hybrids

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BhYctVmdKZk/Vrn8z6HzL5I/AAAAAAAAAE4/AqsRqHnY0lU/s1600/DSCN0990.JPG)
Dionysia afghanica-hybrid MK 06458/1

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Khg2m0hLolo/Vrn8wMQ0lDI/AAAAAAAAAEc/5TiVbi-Muxk/s1600/DSCN0983.JPG)
'MIKE BRAMLEY' Dionysia afghanica hybrid MK 9801/18

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Dionysia hybrid PMR-MK 06459/2 thr

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zSWN7x_wUpo/Vrn8zHEmpdI/AAAAAAAAAEs/fbghIvtfgxA/s1600/DSCN0988.JPG)
'JUDITH BRAMLEY' Dionysia afghanica x tapetodes MK 9801/4

more next week!

best wishes,

Michael
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 09, 2016, 11:07:34 PM: Very impressive Michael!!!
Can you show some photographs of the alpine house that holds the Dionysias?
How do you ventilate the alpine house? Do you use additional heating, a dehumidifier or additional winter lights?
Do you water the plunge from below?

Sorry for all the questions but as I'm trying to grow Dionysias in a cool, damp, Northern Atlantic climate I need all the advice I can get. ;)
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Graeme on February 10, 2016, 07:07:09 PM: Quote from: Steve Garvie on February 09, 2016, 11:07:34 PM
Very impressive Michael!!!
Can you show some photographs of the alpine house that holds the Dionysias?
How do you ventilate the alpine house? Do you use additional heating, a dehumidifier or additional winter lights?
Do you water the plunge from below?

Sorry for all the questions but as I'm trying to grow Dionysias in a cool, damp, Northern Atlantic climate I need all the advice I can get. ;)
Me too - I love to see how people have got their alpine houses setup - that one looks like heaven to me

So may questions - my next project somewhere for dionysia to live

PLEASE post more pictures of the plants
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: ruweiss on February 11, 2016, 10:07:20 PM: Hello Michael,
Thank you so much for showing us some of your floral gems.
I didn't think that so many species start so early this year; maybe a result
of the (until now) missing winter.
A good reason for a visit to the Botanical Garden Tübingen!
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Yann on February 14, 2016, 10:47:16 AM: How do they do the watering? By filling the big tube seen in the left corner?
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Michael Mauser on February 15, 2016, 12:23:18 PM: Thanks for your comments and questions.

Concerning our alpinehouse here are some photos

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aHUquBhm6Vg/Vr9EsZmAM4I/AAAAAAAAAIM/rncjMrOTWzQ/s1600/DSCN1040.JPG)

View from south-east

The windows can be openend by hand, we keep them open whole the year (only when we have heavy rainfall, storm or temperatures going down -5°C.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CSMDt39J0fI/Vr9FjBtvBSI/AAAAAAAAAIY/_kBMC-n_UUQ/s1600/DSCN1089.JPG)

Inside there are 3 fans, also working whole the year (they stopp twice a day to "recover").
For sunny days shading can be moved over (for protection against direct sunlight in summer).

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YxddmI3kIhA/VsCJlaLibLI/AAAAAAAAAI0/dds7DvVD9TY/s640/DSCN1092.JPG)

The pots are plunged in sandbeds; we can fill in water up to 5 cm to soak the sand (after some time the water is removed so that there is no stagnant water in the sandbeds).
During wintertime I only water directly in the sand (and sometimes in the pots) from top.

What we don't have is extralight for the wintertime, but it works so far.

And we have a showhouse in our garden for public, but I have to bring more plants in it....
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--Z0vxiAEt2M/VRxkDQ7cTzI/AAAAAAAAAAM/-SNZdcchyPs/s1600/DSC_0518.JPG)

Michael

@Rudi: You (and others, too) are allways welcome!
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 15, 2016, 01:22:58 PM: Michael: thank you so much for this information about your work with Dionysia at the Botanical Gardens of Tübingen. 8)
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 15, 2016, 02:50:39 PM: Michael,
Very many thanks for going to the trouble of posting this -it is very helpful and very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Graeme on February 15, 2016, 04:56:15 PM: now they are fantastic buildings - I want the second one...........

I would love to work there

I need some propagation tips as well..............
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Matt T on February 15, 2016, 05:30:59 PM: Incredible photos. The greenhouses are enviable and the plants are just stunning.

I've always assumed that Dionysia would not do for us here, even under cover, because of our very wet climate. However, I've not once seen botrytis on spent flowers of Crocus for example, they just desiccate. I think the weather is breezy enough to maintain excellent ventilation at all times, even if it is raining stair rods. Perhaps I should try one of the easier species to see how it goes...
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Gabriela on February 15, 2016, 07:34:49 PM: Michael - as well, thanks a lot for taking the time to post these pictures.
It's always so interesting to see some of the 'behind the scene' areas from botanical gardens that are not open to the public.
Stunning Dionysias!
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: K-D Keller on February 20, 2016, 08:31:32 PM: In early blossom Dionysia curviflora and Dionysia zschummelii.
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: brianw on February 21, 2016, 07:25:59 PM: The plunge bed construction looks interesting. Seems to be Sindayo (cement fibre) board just edge bolted from the closeup. Only seen it used around furnaces etc. before not wet places. are there any other bolt heads visible indicating construction?
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Graeme on February 21, 2016, 08:19:06 PM: Quote from: brianw on February 21, 2016, 07:25:59 PM
The plunge bed construction looks interesting. Seems to be Sindayo (cement fibre) board just edge bolted from the closeup. Only seen it used around furnaces etc. before not wet places. are there any other bolt heads visible indicating construction?
Interesting - it looked like aluminium to me - but the ends are screwed and the watering pipe looks like it was nailed - odd but would be interested to see how it has been done
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Michael Mauser on February 23, 2016, 03:35:36 PM: some more Dionysia-hybrids

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c7w1VlDy7Uc/VssIql2W0nI/AAAAAAAAANI/oscQpktdkug/s640/DSCN1155%2BMK6458-2.JPG)

Dionysia afghanica-hybrid MK 06458/2 thr

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-99zXIMCDqaE/VssIq4eYaZI/AAAAAAAAANM/kLBYyz4sq_k/s640/DSCN1158.JPG)

this hybrid is different to MK 06458/1 - but they are sisters!

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jGJeE4Eo3-U/VssIp2BGKAI/AAAAAAAAAM8/EQad3LzeQ_Y/s640/DSCN1148%2BMK1458-6.JPG)

Dionysia afghanica-hybrid MK 01458/6 thr

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8wEoURkXqxU/VssIraHlQLI/AAAAAAAAANU/PAr2piO5T0E/s640/DSCN1167%2BMK6458-9.JPG)

Dionysia afghanica-hybrid MK 01458/9 thr

@Graeme: Your right, the plunge bed are constructed in aluminium. Concerning our cultivation and equipment it might be better to start an extra thread... :)

Michael
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 23, 2016, 03:51:32 PM: These white hybrids are very attractive - a refreshing sight.

Michael, you are most welcome to begin a thread to describe your cultivation methods and alpine house equipment. That would be of great interest, I do not doubt.
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 24, 2016, 06:43:24 AM: Hi Michael,
It's wonderful to see these plants which are impossible to source over here and would be impossible to grow in our conditions ::)
So it's great to see what you grow!
I especially love the hybrid 'Judith Bramley' - stunning!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Dionysia 2016
Post by: Michael Mauser on May 23, 2016, 12:11:54 PM: last Dionysias in full flower...

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Dionysia involucrata in the tuffa-wall

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...and self-sown underneath

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white form of Dionysia involucrata

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tHDSWREyOu0/V0LcU3us7AI/AAAAAAAAASY/4z6UuwTDKbIqy0NYA9E1M3mzP6MZEzSSACLcB/s1600/DSC_0583.JPG)
Dionysia involucrata 'ALBA'

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sx4U_Y30BXI/V0LcUyTY9AI/AAAAAAAAASU/w5grlB_LJOQl0TvQsyumFm3n7PJ09L1wgCLcB/s1600/DSC_0584.JPG)
Dionysia involucrata 'ALBA' seedling from last year

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...and from this year

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EBxWqRNSdQI/V0Lb_YAR7AI/AAAAAAAAASM/UXDDtrFmh9MZT4yQLTSUATla9fRx3LarACLcB/s1600/DSC_0604.JPG)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rm8cjUWx4KM/V0Lcim-3ftI/AAAAAAAAASg/9Ir8EDVrnA8QkNOAzH1A6-GUrILWJTGvACLcB/s1600/DSC_0605.JPG)
and some more of them in the propagation-house, promissing for the next seedexchange.

There are more photos of other Dionysias I haven't posted yet, perhaps if we have some more rainy days I can make up this...

Best wishes,

Michael