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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: Cfred72 on February 02, 2016, 02:23:54 PM
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Voici quelques uns en fleurs chez moi
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Narcissus 'Tête à Tête'
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Narcissus cantabricus
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Narcissus romieuxii ssp romieuxii 'Julia Jane'
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Narcissus cyclamineus 'February Gold'
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Narcissus 'Erlicheer'
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Narcissus romieuxii
Bright yellow in sun.
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A few new seedlings:
2781 snipe x candlepower.jpg
Dave Toole's hybrid x Second Fiddle.jpg
wat x marv x candlepower.jpg photo wrongly named : Papa Snoz x Candlepower
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Sir Echo x Little Jen.jpg
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And a couple of species:
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Fred - A February Gold in February! That is very unusual!
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Narcissus asturiensis (I assume) surprised me today, flowering on the raised bed after the storm. It is only 10 cm tall. This seedling appeared in my plunge 2012. I put it outside on the raised bed and is now clumping up modestly.
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Nice miniature trumpets, Anne and Cyril :) They are real heralds of spring because today is the First Day of Spring in solar term.
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Some nice new seedlings, Anne.
The "wat x marv x candlepower" seems unlike what I would expect! (That is, if wat = watieri and marv=marvieri)
You'll be challenging Graham for the most new minis in the trade!
cheers
fermi
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Annew, N. 'February Gold' is rarely blossom in February? Is this a joke? I'm too new to know.
For cons, I really like Narcissus who tepals which are at 180 ° to the trumpet as 'Wat Marv x x Candlepower'. We never see here.
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Anne-my February Gold is in the January thread.It has never flowered until March before!
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Some nice new seedlings, Anne.
The "wat x marv x candlepower" seems unlike what I would expect! (That is, if wat = watieri and marv=marvieri)
You'll be challenging Graham for the most new minis in the trade!
cheers
fermi
That's because it's actually Papa Snoz x Candlepower, I had the wrong label. Sharp eyes, Fermi!
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Narcissus ‘Candlepower’ x cyclamineus Thanks, Anne :-* The pot diameter is 9cm.
Narcissus romieuxii subsp. pallidus An odd and large flower with a mysterious name ::)
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Narcissus romieuxii subsp. pallidus An odd and large flower with a mysterious name ::)
I have one under this name too, perhaps from the same source, although mine is yet to flower. I see no reason why it should not be a straightforward N. romieuxii. They're all beautiful nonetheless.
The Narcissus are finally responding to the lengthening days, so I hope to have a few more flowers to show in the next few days and weeks. With the disruption of a house move, the lack of anything like a summer in 2015 and a challenging winter I'll be happy with any blooms I get.
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Narcissus romieuxii subsp. pallidus An odd and large flower with a mysterious name ::)
A glance at this page from the Kew Plantlist shows the rather large number of synonyms rolling around for this plant :-\ :)
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-310993 (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-310993)
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I have one under this name too, perhaps from the same source, although mine is yet to flower. I see no reason why it should not be a straightforward N. romieuxii. They're all beautiful nonetheless.
Mine has N. bulbocodium like (long, prostrate, thick and glossy dark green) leaves but scented flower as N. romieuxii. Looking forward to your flowers, Matt.
A glance at this page from the Kew Plantlist shows the rather large number of synonyms rolling around for this plant :-\ :)
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-310993 (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-310993)
Thank you, Maggi :) You are always so helpful :-* But taxonomists always make me confused :-X ??? ???
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It is so funny to see my 'tinies' even tinier under Tatsuo's conditions!
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I love the funny name : Narcissus 'Mitimoto'
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Narcissus ‘Candlepower’ x cyclamineus Thanks, Anne :-* The pot diameter is 9cm.
Narcissus romieuxii subsp. pallidus An odd and large flower with a mysterious name ::)
'Pallidus' comes from the Latin 'paleo' meaning pale, wan.
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I love the funny name : Narcissus 'Mitimoto'
Rod Barwick's sense of humour!
He released a range of hybrid hoop petticoats called his "little detectives" which alluded to fictional detectives like "Mickey Moto" which became "Mitimoto"; there is also MisS MARPLE; SherlocK HOLMES; InspectOR CLUSEAU; HerculeS POIROT;
cheers
fermi
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I grow Narcissus 'Poirot' in the greenhouse. It will soon flourished. This name is in homage to Hercule Poirot. Famous detective fiction, born from the pen of Agatha Christie. :)
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... homage to Hercule Poirot. Famous detective fiction, born from the pen of Agatha Christie. :)
AND a Belgian ;) ;D
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There is always learning with plants, Fermi i didn't know the whole story
I'll go to bed less stupid ;)
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And à BELGIAN, YES ;D she was inspired at the time, the Belgian migrants s' settled in England to escape the war in 1914
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Narcissus eugeniae w3277, recently bought from Anne in flower, a really beautiful little species.
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Narcissus romieuxii, propagated from a single bulb :)
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Narcissus romieuxii, propagated from a single bulb :)
It is very beautiful. How long has multiplied it unto thee?
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It is very beautiful. How long has multiplied it unto thee?
Thanks, Fred. The plant from a nursery in Jan. 2011. The bulbs usually increase 2 times or more every year.
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Narcissus romieuxii, propagated from a single bulb :)
Your Narcissus brought this to my mind Tatsuo, although the last line doesn't fit. Thank you for a bright day!
A flash of lightning
Into the gloom
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Matsuo Basho
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Among seedlings i've (re)found this cantabricus sown on 09/2013 sourced from Kurt.
It grows among cyclamen self-sown.
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Narcissus romieuxii, propagated from a single bulb :)
Tatsuo, this is an appealing clone with the added bonus of multiplying well.
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N.citrinus
N.lobularis
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Glorious sunshine brings out the best in the daffies.
Two beauties from Tatsuo - N. cantabricus petunioides and 'clusii'
Brian Duncan's N. Galantoquilla Group give good value, with two scapes from this one bulb.
N. jacetanus
N. 'Candlepower' - newly opened and yet to fade, so still quite yellow.
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I can FEEL the sun in those photos, Matt! N. cantabricus petunioides is just gorgeous 8)
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I could feel the sun today as I was out in it all day! Sometimes, just sometimes there are benefits to being a field ecologist!
I'm thrilled with the beautiful Narcissus that Tatsuo sent me. The petunioides form is really lovely and there are more flowers on the way. I'll never achieve the Narcissus cushion effect, but they'll be getting some extra special mollycoddling to make sure they do well here.
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Tatsuo grows some exceptional forms - and of course, in a superb neat way. We've thought of moving lock stock and bulbhouse to Japan to live next door to him, you know!
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I thought of that first!
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Some of Brian Duncan's miniatures: Cheekie Chappie, Punk and Tiny Light.
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More of Brian's: Starlit and Tiddlywinks.
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FANFARE!! My favourite so far of all my seedlings (it'll probably disappear now..) N. Candlepower x a Keira hybrid.
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Philip, I love your N. lobularis in the grass.
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Tatsuo grows some exceptional forms - and of course, in a superb neat way. We've thought of moving lock stock and bulbhouse to Japan to live next door to him, you know!
Lock, stock, bulbhouse and small whites too I hope, Maggi!
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Anne, I love them all! The tiny, tiny trumpets are so beautiful, especially the pale ones. Do you plan to list any of these?
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This one definitely - hoping to register as 'Snippet' - it's only 8cm tall. Also hopefully some of Brian's.
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That a loverly little narcissus Anne.
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Anne-that is the first to flower this year of what is a small colony.
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Two beauties from Tatsuo - N. cantabricus petunioides and 'clusii'
WOW :D :D :D Very happy to see they are growing in your hands, Matt ;)
Tatsuo grows some exceptional forms - and of course, in a superb neat way. We've thought of moving lock stock and bulbhouse to Japan to live next door to him, you know!
Do I have? It seems YOU have so many exceptional forms, Maggi :P You are always welcome to moving to my next door ;)
This one definitely - hoping to register as 'Snippet' - it's only 8cm tall. Also hopefully some of Brian's.
A superb potful daffs, Anne :o Looking forward to your next bulb list ;D
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Narcissus ‘Candlepower’ x cyclamineus from Anne is fading to paler. So lovely :)
Narcissus could be ‘Julia Jane’ is flowering here at last. I obtained some bulbs from a nursery in the UK in summer 2010. The bulbs looked healthy but grew very poor and they divided into so many small bulblets in following season. I already had got many fake 'JJ' from nurseries in Japan and overseas so this pot was the last hope for me.
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That looks like the real thing, Tatsuo! Which nursery did you get it from? I had one the same some years ago from Rannveig Wallis at Buried Treasure, but lost it again!
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Thank you for your 'expert' opinion, Anne :) Sorry that you lost your bulbs by the way.
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At home, Narcissus romexieuii 'Julia Jane has brought her flowers a lot higher on the stems.
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Narcissus viridiflorus will soon be in bloom.
I bought it in November 2015. It was potted directly.
This is probably why it is offset from its normal flowering period. It should bloom in autumn.
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Narcissus viridiflorus will soon be in bloom.
I bought it in November 2015. It was potted directly.
This is probably why it is offset from its normal flowering period. It should bloom in autumn.
Perhaps you'll be able to enjoy N. viridiflorus earliest in Europe 2016, Fred. Other people have to wait the flowers next autumn ::)
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Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720, almost certainly originating in Morocco.
At my place, the African papyraceus blooms almost 2 month later than the Spanish one.
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Narcissus viridiflorus will soon be in bloom.
I bought it in November 2015. It was potted directly.
This is probably why it is offset from its normal flowering period. It should bloom in autumn.
A great chance for you to create some interesting hybrids, Fred,
cheers
fermi
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Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720, almost certainly originating in Morocco.
At my place, the African papyraceus blooms almost 2 month later than the Spanish one.
That is lovely Tatsuo, and so compact. ::)
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That is lovely Tatsuo, and so compact. ::)
I do not know enough to know that hybridize with ...
An idea ?
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Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720, almost certainly originating in Morocco.
At my place, the African papyraceus blooms almost 2 month later than the Spanish one.
Tatsuo, as usual, so well grown. I think you showed this 3 years ago and I drooled over it. :P. Someone told me, Fritz Kummert I think, there are compact forms in the wild but even these will probably grow tall in the Scottish climate.
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That is lovely Tatsuo, and so compact. ::)
Thanks, Chris :)
Tatsuo, as usual, so well grown. I think you showed this 3 years ago and I drooled over it. :P. Someone told me, Fritz Kummert I think, there are compact forms in the wild but even these will probably grow tall in the Scottish climate.
Thanks, Cyril. Sounds interesting the compact forms. The Spanish one in my previous post (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13802.msg345924#msg345924) has 2 times or more higher flower stalks than this Moroccan when they are in their blooming period.
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Superb papyraceous, Tatsuo.
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At home, Narcissus romexieuii 'Julia Jane has brought her flowers a lot higher on the stems.
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Fred, this is a nice romieuxii, but not Julia Jane - see the genuine article in Tatsuo's photo, above. Unfortunately, seedlings of Julia Jane were sold for any years as the named variety, which they are not. The RHS is currently looking at Julia Jane to identify stocks of the correct clone.
Exciting buds on your viridiflorus!
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Thanks, Cyril. Sounds interesting the compact forms. The Spanish one in my previous post (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13802.msg345924#msg345924) has 2 times or more higher flower stalks than this Moroccan when they are in their blooming period.
Tatsuo, I can see the Spanish one you showed is much taller.
Rafa grows a similar compact plant from a collection from Tarragona, a port city in northeastern Spain’s Catalonia region, of a residual locality that has definitively disappeared (he thinks due climate change). It has long and prostrate leaves, not erect like in N. papyraceus subsp. papyraceus, also they are very wide at the beginning and thin at the end. He thinks it is a subsp. of N. papyraceus probably not described yet. See his post reply 23 for pictures. http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13802.15 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13802.15)
The Moroccan form you grow is slightly different in that the leaves do not seem so large or so prostrate, more like typical N. papyraceus subsp. papyraceus.
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Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720, almost certainly originating in Morocco.
At my place, the African papyraceus blooms almost 2 month later than the Spanish one.
They are growing more strongly each year and getting more lovely, YT!
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Superb papyraceous, Tatsuo.
Thanks, Anne :)
Rafa grows a similar compact plant from a collection from Tarragona, a port city in northeastern Spain’s Catalonia region, of a residual locality that has definitively disappeared (he thinks due climate change). It has long and prostrate leaves, not erect like in N. papyraceus subsp. papyraceus, also they are very wide at the beginning and thin at the end. He thinks it is a subsp. of N. papyraceus probably not described yet. See his post reply 23 for pictures. http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13802.15 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13802.15)
Thanks for the link, Cyril. I believe Rafa will distribute the seeds from that precious dwarf form :P
They are growing more strongly each year and getting more lovely, YT!
Yes, they are and increasing year by year and I've already donated the hand pollinated seeds to SRGC SeedEx ;)
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Narcissus cantabricus, from SRGC SeedEx 2010-5194 :) :) :)
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lovely Tatsuo,
here're from Narcissus fringella group and Narcissus bulbocodium obesus MS451
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N. fringella looks very dainty, good name :)
What's about 'obesus' - does it have a big bulb?
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Here is Fringella next to Sidora for comparison. Then Sidora. Then a close up of Fringella.
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Here is a new variety selected by our friend and forumist Lesley Cox in New Zealand - 'Susan Cox'.
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Wow! Each looks more charming than the others, Anne :D
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My petunioides pot looks no good this season. Flower stems are much taller than the usual and some bulbs have no flowers :'(
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MUCH taller?? 3-4cm?? ;D ;D ;D Maybe they are missing their friends that you sent to lucky people over here?
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MUCH taller?? 3-4cm?? ;D ;D ;D Maybe they are missing their friends that you sent to lucky people over here?
Yes, definitely tall. You can see they are ready to flop over ::) ::) ;D I have to increase them more they not miss their clones.
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Narcissus ‘Candlepower’ x cyclamineus has changed to milky white :)
Narcissus cantabricus, ex. JJA 699.814. A second generation seedling sown in 2013.
The seedlings from JJA (the first generation) varied in flower shape and size. I carefully selected uniform open-mouthed flowers and pollinated them.
Narcissus minor, JJA 702.305 has just started to bloom.
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A terrible photograph of Narcissus scaberulus aff. I definitely am uncertain! I thought that this might be a good time to ask the experts on this thread if there is a good on-line key to the Genus Narcissus in English? If this is not possible maybe there is a good book on the subject (in English too)? Not only a key, but also botanical descriptions would be helpful.
Over the years I have received seed from various seed exchanges of many "species". Much is garden seed - perhaps of questionable purity as to a species. Any comments on this? Wild seed seems difficult to obtain, at least here in my part of California. What little there is seems in very high demand. Any thoughts on this one?
If I am going to photograph these tiny flowers an up-grade to my present camera would be extremely helpful. I will have to find out if there is another thread that deals with such technical issues.
In advance, thank you (all) for your help. :)
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Narcissus minor JJA 702,305 is tremendous. :)
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A terrible photograph of Narcissus scaberulus aff. I definitely am uncertain! I thought that this might be a good time to ask the experts on this thread if there is a good on-line key to the Genus Narcissus in English? If this is not possible maybe there is a good book on the subject (in English too)? Not only a key, but also botanical descriptions would be helpful.
Over the years I have received seed from various seed exchanges of many "species". Much is garden seed - perhaps of questionable purity as to a species. Any comments on this? Wild seed seems difficult to obtain, at least here in my part of California. What little there is seems in very high demand. Any thoughts on this one?
If I am going to photograph these tiny flowers an up-grade to my present camera would be extremely helpful. I will have to find out if there is another thread that deals with such technical issues.
In advance, thank you (all) for your help. :)
The best reference I can recommend is John W. Blanchards 'Narcissus: a Guide to Wild Daffodils'. Published by the AGS it is out of print now but second-hand copies can be found via the usual means. Key are included where they are workable, but the descriptions (including comparisons with similar species) are very useful. There's also a wealth of contextual information, stories from his travel in their habitats etc. Do acquire a copy if you can, Robert.
Is the scape Are the leaves smooth or rough to the touch? Run a finger up and down the base of the flower stem leaves - in N.scaberulus it should feel rough.
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A terrible photograph of Narcissus scaberulus aff. I definitely am uncertain! I thought that this might be a good time to ask the experts on this thread if there is a good on-line key to the Genus Narcissus in English? If this is not possible maybe there is a good book on the subject (in English too)? Not only a key, but also botanical descriptions would be helpful.
Over the years I have received seed from various seed exchanges of many "species". Much is garden seed - perhaps of questionable purity as to a species. Any comments on this? Wild seed seems difficult to obtain, at least here in my part of California. What little there is seems in very high demand. Any thoughts on this one?
If I am going to photograph these tiny flowers an up-grade to my present camera would be extremely helpful. I will have to find out if there is another thread that deals with such technical issues.
In advance, thank you (all) for your help. :)
If ONLY there were an up to date key. I think it is being worked upon in sections at present. Until then we have only John Blanchard's book I think, unless someone knows better?
In the Daffodil, Snowdrop and Tulip Yearbook 2014 there is a translation of a key to Narcissus species from the Flora Iberica 2013.
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Anne and Matt,
Thank you so much for the information. I can get John Blanchard's Narcissus book at our public library. I did scan the key, however there is so much more information I need. It would be a good idea if I could buy the book. Hopefully something more up-dated will be coming out soon.
As for Narcissus scaberulus, is there anything morphological that I can check with a hand lens that accounts for the rough texture of the leaf? It is indeed rough. The original seed lot also had a collection number.
Most likely I will need to ask some "bonehead" questions from time-to-time until I get up to speed with this Genus.
Thank you again for your help! :)
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Happy to help, Robert.
Blanchard says for N.scaberulus: "leaves 4-angled, sometimes minutely scabrid [with rough edges - you might well be able to see this with a strong hand lens], scape cyclidrical or elliptic 6-ridged, corona tending to incurve at margin [usually]"
Other features that may help confirm ID are a pedicel to 25mm/1" (only 10mm in N.calcicola) and the petals are rather narrow - "3mm wide, 7mm high"[sic] compared to N.calcicola "7mm broad, 8mm long".
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I bought 3 bulbs as Narcissus ‘Atlas Gold’ from a nursery and result is... :(
The thing is I haven't seen real ‘Atlas Gold’ ever ::)
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For comparison, this is Potterton's photo of 'Atlas Gold'
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Matt,
Thank you for the additional information. I have yet to print-out the scanned pages from John Blanchard's book. However, will be checking this in the next day or two. :)
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I bought 3 bulbs as Narcissus ‘Atlas Gold’ from a nursery and result is... :(
The thing is I haven't seen real ‘Atlas Gold’ ever ::)
I think they are probably seedlings from Atlas Gold.
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For comparison, this is Potterton's photo of 'Atlas Gold'
Thanks, Maggi.
I think they are probably seedlings from Atlas Gold.
Yes, I agree with you, Anne.
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from Cordoba, Spain.
Narcissus jonquilla in a very different ecology
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more pics, the same N. jonquilla, N. x hervasii nothhovar. hervasii (mother N. truiandrus subsp. pallidulus) and then N. cantabricus and N. fernandesii hybrids in both directions
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more hybrids and parents
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finally all together
N. cantabricus
N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus
N. x susannae
N. fernandesii
N. fernandesii x N. cantabricus
also a bad picture comparing N. x susannae with N. fernandesii x N. cantabricus
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Great photos of some lovely narcissus Rafa.
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Great to see these in the wild, Rafa,
thanks for sharing the pics,
cheers
fermi
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Looks like heaven, Rafa!
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At last a full pot of Trumpet Voluntary - a love-it-or-hate-it flower! And the delightful (and often misnamed) Mitzi.
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I had a long discussion today with someone who was adamant that if you crossed two species to make a hybrid, then you should not give the hybrid a name unless you are prepared to name the specific clones of the species that you used as parents. Also that if you did not do this, then the resultant hybrid should only have as a name the botanical taxon name eg x susannae, and not given a clonal name.
My thinking was that if we go around having to give a clonal name to every species flower I use as a parent, I would be here till doomsday thinking of names! Also, if we lump together all the seedlings from a particular hybrid taxon, we lose any distinct cultivation advantages one clone may have over another...Although we were discussing the Fringella group which is a grex so maybe I just got confused. ??? ??? ???
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I LOVE ‘Trumpet Voluntary’ of course! And ‘Mitzi’ is lovey, too.
I had a long discussion today with someone who was adamant that if you crossed two species to make a hybrid, then you should not give the hybrid a name unless you are prepared to name the specific clones of the species that you used as parents. Also that if you did not do this, then the resultant hybrid should only have as a name eg x susannae, and not given a clonal name.
I think you wasted your time for the adamant person, Anne. I've learned horticulture but never heard such strange rule before.
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Here viridiflorus Narcissus flower.
The flower stalk bears three flowers. :D
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I will do self-pollination, but I will file its pollen on Narcissus tazetta 'Hoopoe' and Narcissus pseudonarcissus ssp wild form of my woods to see if it can hybridize.
The first flower of Narcissus pseudonarcissus year just opened my home. It is a new bed of bulbs that I planted last fall under the lime tree.
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Narcissus Tazetta 'Hoopoe"
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Narcissus pseudonarcissus
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New bed of bulbs
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Fred,
I think you already have a hybrid, or at least a form with wider petals than usual. It would be interesting to see the results of the self-pollination.
I'd save some pollen to use on any jonquilla types as well.
Good luck, but you already have the start of something special,
cheers
fermi
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Indeed, I buy as the number 2 as a selection of Narcissus viridiflorus.
I also have another selection, form number 5. Its corolla is tinged with green and orange over the edge.
I do not have any photos unless the seed capsule.
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but these beautiful plants are even not selection, they are hybrids that have received the pollen of N. viridiflorus, and then they put this name Narcissus viridiflorus number 2.. 3.. 4.., A selection would be a dinstinctive plant from a particular species that have any valuable character for ornamenthal purposes. In my oppinion these wrongly named hybrids are F2,3,4,5.... (who knows) X narcissus viridiflorus as parent, otherwise the phenology of the plant should be to bloom in autumn (in normal conditions)
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Narcissus hispanicus and Narcissus confusus Clone 2, both from Anne Wright.
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It is still very nice, whatever it is, Fred, and worth a try to cross with something.
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Its smell is really beautiful. in terms of the type species, I have time. I will find the seed one day. :)
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sorry if I dissapoint anyone, but hispanicus and confusus are the same species. :-\
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;D ;D ;D It's not disappointment. It's good to have someone who can restore order. Thank you ;)
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sorry if I dissapoint anyone, but hispanicus and confusus are the same species. :-\
I dare not question your expertise, but PBS Wiki says N. confusus is N. pseudonarcissus
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Well, for this particular genus, I prefer not to follow PBS as a valid authority in Narcissus genus. it is very difficoult to find a unique reference, for the whole genus. For example Flora Iberica, to my understanding is completely wrong concerning Jonquillae and Bulbocodi section, but they are right considering all these names hispanicus, bujei, perez-chiscanoi, eugeniae etc... as the same species, that they call it N. pseudonarcissus subsp. portensis, but I think N. confusus is prioritary name.
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Thank you, Rafa.
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Narcissus cantabricus ‘clusii’
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Stunning!!!
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Fabulous!
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Well, for this particular genus, I prefer not to follow PBS as a valid authority in Narcissus genus. it is very difficoult to find a unique reference, for the whole genus. For example Flora Iberica, to my understanding is completely wrong concerning Jonquillae and Bulbocodi section, but they are right considering all these names hispanicus, bujei, perez-chiscanoi, eugeniae etc... as the same species, that they call it N. pseudonarcissus subsp. portensis, but I think N. confusus is prioritary name.
I think 'confusus' is very apt!
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A couple of days away reveals a few more flowers.
N. jeanmonodii
'Fairy Gold' - a sweet wee daff (this one seems to have had trouble expanding it's trumpet) :(
No apologies for showing Tatsuo's wonderful N. cantabricus petunioides again
Also shown before is 'Candlepower', which has now faded to off-white
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I picked up a packet labelled 'miniature trumpets' from the Small Bulb Exchange at the Discussion Weekend last autumn. One is now in flower, and comparing the flower with the description on Daffseek I appear to have acquired Anne's 'Sidora'. It's a lovely wee thing.
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Narcissus cantabricus ‘clusii’
Fabulous potful Tatsuo. I hope one day mine will look as good. All we need is a winter like the weather we are getting now, cold, crisp and sunny. ;D
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sorry if I dissapoint anyone, but hispanicus and confusus are the same species. :-\
Further to this interesting topic: my two bulbs were from the same supplier, were planted on the same day, in identical conditions in the open garden. My observation is that the bulb labelled as N hispanicus produced a flower at 24cms tall, diameter 7cms, trumpet length 3cms. The bulb labelled as N confusus Clone 2 flowered at 12cms tall, diameter 5cms, trumpet length 2.5cms. So The former is bigger overall.
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Hi Ralph I grow n. Hispanicus and n. Eugeniae and the Hispanicus is a lot bigger than eugeniae, but they are the same species?
Here they are side by side.
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I picked up a packet labelled 'miniature trumpets' from the Small Bulb Exchange at the Discussion Weekend last autumn. One is now in flower, and comparing the flower with the description on Daffseek I appear to have acquired Anne's 'Sidora'. It's a lovely wee thing.
They were all unnamed seedlings, Matt, that didn't make the 'cut'. Probably many Sidora lookalikes!
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Further to this interesting topic: my two bulbs were from the same supplier, were planted on the same day, in identical conditions in the open garden. My observation is that the bulb labelled as N hispanicus produced a flower at 24cms tall, diameter 7cms, trumpet length 3cms. The bulb labelled as N confusus Clone 2 flowered at 12cms tall, diameter 5cms, trumpet length 2.5cms. So The former is bigger overall.
It is maybe a vary variable species, depending on the area it came from?
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The often confused but quite different Snipe left and Mitzy right.
My little Snippet left and Mitzy right
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They were all unnamed seedlings, Matt, that didn't make the 'cut'. Probably many Sidora lookalikes!
Even your rejects are excellent, Anne! ;D
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Thanks for all comments to my ‘clusii’ pot :)
Matt, nice daffs and you’ve got a happy packet :D
Your ‘Snippet’ is so tiny and cute, Anne 8) :P
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I also picked up a packet of 5 'Anne Wright's dwarf Trumpets' at the Discussion Weekend. One really short one is flowering now.
Sorry for the quality. My camera cannot cope too well with yellow and sunshine ;D
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Judging by the leaves you got a mixed bag there, Roma. Mine all have very similar leaves. Your small one in flower now is very similar to my little 'Anne's reject'.
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Narcissus romieuxii from 2010 SRGC Seed Ex. 2841 as “rifanus”. These seedlings are very small. The pot is 7.5 cm across.
Narcissus ‘Coo’ from Anne.
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Narcissus romieuxii JJA 705.100 from December 2008 list. This seedling looks something like bi-colour.
Narcissus cantabricus ‘clusii’ pot, today.
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Yt, your miniature forms are really attractive, you have a nice collection
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oh that clusii pan is really stunning!
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another seedling of frangella group
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another seedling of frangella group
I like this very much. It is so cute!
Poul
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Right now, I 1) N. "February Gold" 2) N. "Price Winner" 3) N. bulbocodium "Oxford Gold"
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Narcissus cyclamineus "February Gold"
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Narcissus "Price Winner"
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Narcissus bulbocodium "Oxford Gold"
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Hi Fred (I assume it's Fred?)
February Gold isn't out with us yet but we are a lot farther north. Mine are still in a pot but they will be planted out later this year. Narcissi are quite resilient in our windy conditions.
Oxford Gold has a nice flower. Do you keep it in a pot?
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Criss Yes, that's Fred. ;)
"Oxford Gold" is in the greenhouse.
I just pollinated with pollen from Narcissus x viridiflorus. I made another crossing with Narcissus romieuxii sold under the name 'Julia Jane' but who would not.
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I'm not a big fan of Narcissus viridiflorus but some of the crosses are more attractive.