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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: JSzymon on January 19, 2016, 08:37:16 PM
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Casual searching shows that yall Brits are darn lucky with snowdrops- large varieties that are, per bulb, rather cheap. In the US, there is a much, much smaller range of nurseries, as far as I can tell, with more cost per bulb, and less of a selection. Does anyone know a good way to get them in the States? How about importing?
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Hi!
There are suppliers in the States - some members of this forum! Have a search .... you may be pleasantly surprised at what you can get "at home" ! (Naturally, I cannot bring any to mind right this minute .... someone will help, I'm sure!)
Some UK suppliers will send with CITES/Phyto etc to USA , like Cornovium, for instance :
http://cornoviumsnowdrops.co.uk/page_3191106.html (http://cornoviumsnowdrops.co.uk/page_3191106.html)
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Here's one. I have to say I have no experience with , though.
http://carolynsshadegardens.com/2014-snowdrop-catalogue/ (http://carolynsshadegardens.com/2014-snowdrop-catalogue/)
and another that I've heard about for years.
No online presence.
he Temple Nursery mail $4 to PO Box 591, Trumansburg NY, 14886.
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Carolyn Walker - a forumist- - Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania, USA
carolynsshadegardens@verizon.net will be able to advise you I'm sure. http://carolynsshadegardens.com/ (http://carolynsshadegardens.com/) - her list is sold out already I believe. She may have hints about other sources though.
Or Forumists Rick Goodenough , South of Boston or "penstemon" in Colorado who are keen galanthophiles may have ideas about sources I expect.
Some mentioned in the forum : U.S. supplier, Jerry Fritz' Linden Hill Gardens;
Carolyn Grahame (raiser?) ; Nancy Goodwin of Montrose Gardens, North Carolina, U.S. (raiser?)
The North American Bulb Suppliers listed in the sources page of the Pacific Bulb Society : not sure how many might supply galanthus though.
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Sources#NABulbs (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Sources#NABulbs)
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There's Hitch Lyman's Temple nursery...attached his catalogue from 2014 (havent' got anything more recent)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/garden/16garden.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/garden/16garden.html?_r=0) for an article about Hitch Lyman.
I have read that you can send $4 to Hitch Lyman, Temple Nursery, Box 591, Trumansburg, NY 14886 for his list .
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Casual searching shows that yall Brits are darn lucky with snowdrops- large varieties that are, per bulb, rather cheap. In the US, there is a much, much smaller range of nurseries, as far as I can tell, with more cost per bulb, and less of a selection. Does anyone know a good way to get them in the States? How about importing?
Thanks, Arnold and Maggie, for mentioning me and my snowdrop business. Maggie, I am also Carolyn Grahame, my Facebook name, keep meaning to change that. Here is a link to my catalogue: http://carolynsshadegardens.com/2016-snowdrop-catalogue/. (http://carolynsshadegardens.com/2016-snowdrop-catalogue/.) Unfortunately, I am completely sold out for 2016. The catalogue comes out in mid-December. If anyone would like to be on the list for an email giving advance notification of the 2017 catalogue, please send your full name and phone number to carolynsshadegardens@verizon.net. Hitch Lyman (Temple Nursery) has already sent out his catalogue for 2016 so I think everyone on his list should have gotten it by now.
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http://www.cornoviumsnowdrops.co.uk/page_3191106.html (http://www.cornoviumsnowdrops.co.uk/page_3191106.html)
Cornvoium send to the US too :)
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Rareplants send to the USA as well and only send out when dormant, from August to late Autumn
http://www.rareplants.co.uk/product-category/archive/galanthus-archive/ (http://www.rareplants.co.uk/product-category/archive/galanthus-archive/)
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Thanks everyone! It seems i was a little late this year, oh well. Ill put myself on all the nurseries' catalog lists for next year. For Cornovium, it might still be cheaper to import from them. Rareplants has a lovely selection (they all do, really) but its somehow more expensive to import from than Cornovium. Maybe The Temple still has some.
I have some seedling snowdrops from pods I picked from an old, abandoned lot. How much variation can be expected?
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I have some seedling snowdrops from pods I picked from an old, abandoned lot. How much variation can be expected?
Ah! That's the 64 thousand dollar question! It depends, as far asI can make out, on the original plants in the area. We hear often in these pages of searches that have been made through large populations where practically no variation at all has been found, whereas other naturalised populations seem to throw up any number of variants.
Those forumists who have the opportunity to examine wild populations can find dizzying variants/mutations, of course. I would say sow the seed and see - if nothing else, you'll get new plants for your garden!
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Thanks everyone! It seems i was a little late this year, oh well. Ill put myself on all the nurseries' catalog lists for next year. For Cornovium, it might still be cheaper to import from them. Rareplants has a lovely selection (they all do, really) but its somehow more expensive to import from than Cornovium. Maybe The Temple still has some.
I have some seedling snowdrops from pods I picked from an old, abandoned lot. How much variation can be expected?
JSzymon, yes, you are right, our European friends are so fortunate to have such terrific access to commercially available Galanthus. All of the sources given above for the U.S. are on my list, and also, there are a few each year offered each year by Brent and Becky's Bulbs as well as a similar selection by McClure and Zimmerman. Far Reaches Farm often has some that a bit more collectable than these two. Jerry Fritz also offers Galanthus from his Linden Hill Garden each winter. You can Google to get contact details for all of these.
I was surprised at your point on Cornovium being more expensive since they are actually quite the opposite when comparing total costs unless you are comparing the price of buying one or two bulbs of more readily available varieties such as a S Arnott, then in that case it might be less to buy from a U.S. supplier. By the way, Cornovium still has an ample supply of very collectable Snowdrops for U.S. collectors, as I just made a second online order yesterday. Have fun...hope this helps. Rick
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I think you mis-read the post, Rick - JSzymon said that rare plants was more expensive to send to the USA than Cornovium - I'd guess they're mostly more expensive per bulb than Cornovium too!
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I clearly did mis-read the post Maggie. Thank you for pointing that out and JSzymon, please accept my apologies. My speed reading needs to slow a bit. To make the point you actually were making is that many of us are able to share in the CITES and cross Atlantic shipping fees in the way Cornovium has structured that part of the pricing. A big win from this side of the pond.
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JSzymon,
The US suppliers have pretty much been named above. I would only add Oddessy Bulbs in Lancaster, MA. They will have a few species and occasional hybrids as well. It's not the same kind of selection that our UK and European friends have, but let me add to what Rick said about Cornovium. They still have some great bulbs available, and the bulbs I received last summer were at least double the size of bulbs that I had previously received from US suppliers like Brent and Becky's or Far Reaches Farm. Some of the bulbs I received were the size of small tulip bulbs and planting them as dormant bulbs in summer is actually a more efficacious method of growing. Good luck in finding the plants on your wish list.
Steve
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Hi Steve - good to hear another excellent report of delivery of good service from Cornovium to the USA. It's cheering to know you guys can get access to these plants in that way.
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Hi Steve - good to hear another excellent report of delivery of good service from Cornovium to the USA. It's cheering to know you guys can get access to these plants in that way.
Yes, Maggi, absolutely cheering as U. S. suppliers of the more rare bulbs sell out within hours or a few days and the selection is significantly broadened with Cornovium in play. Steve, I totally confirm your point on the quality, freshness and size of the Cornovium bulbs. And Neil, I am glad Rare Plants are attempting to export to this market as well. All good for the growing interest in Snowdrops stateside. There are now nearly 400 participants on the Face Book page, Snowdrops in American Gardens.
Here is a shot of a selected G. elwesii var. elwesii from a lot of bulbs coming from a U.S. bulb supplier, with a likely Netherlands sourcing. Have a great weekend all. Rick