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Title: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Yann on January 16, 2016, 02:50:39 PM
Tulipa lemmersii is the first in bloom here
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on January 16, 2016, 03:45:57 PM
Already!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Yann on January 16, 2016, 04:33:59 PM
all those outside without protection will flower in less than 2 weeks....depends of the night frost awaited.
A friend of mine was near Omalos in Crete last week, he saw doerfleri in bloom.
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Post by: LucS on January 16, 2016, 06:48:23 PM
My first flower in the cold greenhouse.  Tulipa subbiflora
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Post by: Yann on January 16, 2016, 07:10:15 PM
Stunning Luc
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Post by: FrazerHenderson on January 27, 2016, 08:10:22 PM
Wild Tulip Expedition to western Kyrgyzstan

I'm just letting fellow tulipholics know that there are a limited number of  places available on
the Wild Tulip Expedition to western Kyrgyzstan to see many tulips including  Tulipa greigii, Tulipa dasystemon, Tulipa kolpakowskiana Tulipa zenaidae, Tulipa kaufmanniana, Tulipa ferganica and Tulipa talassii  plus irises and alpine plants.

Day 1. (29.04) Bishkek – Ala-Archa national park and Kyrgyz ridge slopes
Day 2. (30.04) Bishkek – Talas
Day 3. (01.05) Talas
Day 4. (02.05) Talas - Chichkan
Day 5. (03.05) Chichkan gorge - Sary-Chelek lake 
Day 6. (04.05) Sary-Chelek lake
Day  7. (05.05) Sary-Chelek lake - Besh-Aral reserve
Day 8. (06.05) Besh-Aral reserve - Arslanbob 
Day 9. (07.05) Arslanbob - World's largest walnut forest and meadows of Tulipa ferganica.
Day 10. (08.05) Arslanbob - Kyrgyz-Ata national park
Day 11. (09.05) Kyrgyz-Ata national park -  Shevali gorge
Day 12. (10.05) Shevali – Osh town
Day 13. (11.05) Osh (Flight to Bishkek)
Day 14 - (12.05) Departure after breakfast

For details on availability, cost etc contact Jane at office@asiamountains.net The expedition language is English (though Russian also spoken).
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: ashley on January 30, 2016, 05:40:24 PM
Amana edulis (syn. Tulipa edulis)

This clone from Jim Archibald reappears every January but hardly increases at all for me. 
The species also seems to be self-incompatible so I've tried seed a couple of times but so far without success.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 30, 2016, 06:02:43 PM
Frustrating not to get seed, Ashley. Do you still have the Archibald number?
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Post by: ashley on January 30, 2016, 06:52:40 PM
Maggi, I asked Jim about seed although at the time he didn't list it.  However he very kindly sent me a few bulbs but didn't specify a stock number (if indeed they had one), and so I assumed they might be the clone widely grown there in Britain.

After several unsuccessful attempts to get seed from them I was delighted to obtain some from a source in Japan and also from (I think) Kurt Vickery.  Sadly however I didn't manage to germinate either batch.
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Post by: Maggi Young on January 30, 2016, 07:06:26 PM
Thanks , Ashley.  Sometimes I think tulips are as tricky from seed as  colchicum can be!
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Post by: johnstephen29 on January 30, 2016, 07:10:41 PM
Don't say that Maggi, I recieved some tulip seeds from the seedex😫
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: ashley on January 30, 2016, 07:10:51 PM
In general I've has reasonable success in germinating various tulips and indeed colchicums (albeit slow), but failed utterly with the precious Amana seed.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on January 30, 2016, 07:16:22 PM
I've had good germination success with tulip seed from Kurt Vickery.
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Post by: johnstephen29 on January 30, 2016, 07:17:06 PM
That gives me hope, how do you treat them?
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Post by: Maggi Young on January 30, 2016, 07:32:36 PM
Don't say that Maggi, I recieved some tulip seeds from the seedex😫

 Don't fret, John - it's  just me!
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Post by: johnstephen29 on January 30, 2016, 08:13:09 PM
Phew that a relief 😁
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on January 30, 2016, 08:22:31 PM
That gives me hope, how do you treat them?
50/50 seed compost/perlite, cover with grit and leave outside in a sheltered spot all winter.
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Post by: johnstephen29 on January 30, 2016, 08:23:54 PM
Cheers Ralph, thanks for that.
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Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 31, 2016, 12:55:48 AM
Don't say that Maggi, I recieved some tulip seeds from the seedex😫
John,
I've raised a few tulips from seed from the Seedexes and it can take a few years to get a flower - but it's worth the wait. Growing from seed means you can get quite a few plants and there will be a good genetic mix for future generations. Even though they can take a few years (I've had some flower after 7 years!) if you sow seeds each year then something new should flower every year!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on January 31, 2016, 04:02:27 PM
Cheers fermi, I've already got some out in the cold frame. I'm not worried about how long it will take to reach flowering size, just how to get them to germinate ;D
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Gerdk on February 02, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
Amana (Tulipa) edulis -

very early but happy in a sand bed

Gerd
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Post by: Cfred72 on February 02, 2016, 08:55:28 AM
Chez moi, ce sont les Tulipa tukestanica qui sont en train de germer
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Post by: Maggi Young on February 02, 2016, 10:56:03 AM
Tulipa turkestanica are germinating well, cFred!  You had a lot of seed there.
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Post by: Matt T on February 02, 2016, 11:39:05 AM
Mustard and cress comes to mind! It's nice when seeds respond so enthusiastically.
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Post by: Cfred72 on February 02, 2016, 03:02:11 PM
J'en ai d'autres espèces qui germent en ce moment. Le problème, c'est que j'ai oublié de noter le nom des plantes quand elles étaient fleuries au jardin et j'ai donc semé des gousses sans nom.
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Par contre, dans la serre, Tulipa humilis pointe le bout de son nez à travers le cœur des feuilles.
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I have other species that  are germinating now.. The problem is that I forgot to note the name of the plants when they were blooming in the garden so I sowed unnamed pods.

By contrast, in the greenhouse, Tulipa humilis is  pointing the tip of his nose through the heart of the leaves.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on February 08, 2016, 05:24:12 PM
Got back from Canada at the end of January to find Amana edulis in flower outdoors. Several other tulips are leafing up but no other flowers so far.

On the subject of Amana, I am looking for bulbs of Amana erythronioides, also the Chinese form of Amana edulis which has previously been called Amana graminifolia and the Japanese form of Amana erythronioides which has been called Amana latifolia. Can anyone help?
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Post by: Cfred72 on February 08, 2016, 07:13:10 PM
By going to the greenhouse this afternoon between two storms, Tulipa humilis were open. By cons, those of the garden remained closed.
I love the scent of these tulips.
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Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Diane Whitehead on February 09, 2016, 05:32:39 AM
Have any of you tried eating Amana?
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on February 09, 2016, 07:13:23 AM
No!
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Post by: Yann on February 13, 2016, 02:44:00 PM
Tulipa turkestanica NURATAU - ARJA-9604, from Janis & Liga.

22.02 the flowers are opening
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Post by: Yann on February 22, 2016, 09:31:12 PM
Tulipa humilis tete a tete, spring is in the air....with no sun :(
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Post by: Yann on February 22, 2016, 09:39:20 PM
the label of this one flew away, clusiana Lady Jane
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Post by: Gabriela on February 23, 2016, 02:53:12 AM
By going to the greenhouse this afternoon between two storms, Tulipa humilis were open. By cons, those of the garden remained closed.
I love the scent of these tulips.

Are these grown from seeds Cfred? I like the candy look (bonbons)  :)
They should look great in a rockery.
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Post by: Steve Garvie on March 02, 2016, 11:31:00 PM
Amana edulis
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1585/25355772181_620a6ac193_o_d.jpg)
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 03, 2016, 07:46:41 PM
...and by way of demonstrating my inferior photographic skills, here is my Amana edulis today.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on March 03, 2016, 07:59:27 PM
Have any of you tried eating Amana?

Given the specific name Diane, I've wondered about this too. I have a small number of bulbs given to me some years ago and they do quite well in a pot, repotted every couple of years. But I'm trying to get as much into the garden as possible. However, with my rabbit population......... :-\  The little brutes developed a taste this last winter for the tubers of the chocolate cosmos so I doubt if having to dig a few tulip bulbs would faze them at all.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Yann on March 12, 2016, 05:11:09 PM
Tulipa kaufmanniana 'sergei jesenin' finally opened.

I also found Tulipa cretica in bloom, this form is from Melambes
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 12, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
They are in the greenhouse, not outside, Yann?
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Post by: Yann on March 12, 2016, 07:08:22 PM
outside, i don't grow any more tulips in the greenhouse.
All the pots are just protected with a glass until february and then i let the rain do the job 8)
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 12, 2016, 07:23:45 PM
Wow, much earlier than here. Nothing flowering here yet apart from Amana edulis.
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Post by: Yann on March 12, 2016, 07:30:29 PM
18°c outside today, same temperature as the one i got on last sunday in the Vaucluse!
They're already fading for some of them
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Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2016, 12:10:59 AM
Tulipa kaufmanniana 'sergei jesenin' finally opened.
I also found Tulipa cretica in bloom, this form is from Melambes

This kaufmanniana is the perfect red, little tulip!, very interesting flower shape on T. cretica - a new one for me.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 13, 2016, 02:48:35 PM
Wow, much earlier than here. Nothing flowering here yet apart from Amana edulis.
What a difference a day makes! Tulipa aitchisonii var. clusianoides and Tulipa biflora are both out in the sunshine today.
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Post by: Steve Garvie on March 15, 2016, 06:12:05 PM
These two would have to be my Desert Island Tulips:

Tulipa aitchisonii var clusianoides
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1642/25716044171_c79d323688_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1582/25716044611_8f31fb4c27_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1610/25690172332_2b1c177727_o.jpg)


Tulipa humilis pulchella albocaerulea oculata
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1614/25184497053_7e8e75b84b_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1641/25690145902_9a51d98bd6_o.jpg)

(edit by maggi to separate pix.)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Yann on March 17, 2016, 06:09:05 PM
Just had time to photography this one after the work, Tulipa doerfleri
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Post by: ian mcdonald on March 20, 2016, 02:57:23 PM
T. turkestanica. img. 1010107.
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Post by: Cfred72 on March 20, 2016, 07:03:21 PM
Tulipa sylvestris
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 21, 2016, 07:49:39 PM
Tulipa 'Ancilla', a widely available cultivar but a good one.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 26, 2016, 03:14:46 PM
A form of Tulipa clusiana which Janis has named as 'Mountains Pride'.
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Post by: Yann on March 26, 2016, 08:52:47 PM
Beautiful
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Post by: Yann on March 29, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
Tulipa turkestanica, seeds collected in Kirghizistan and sown in 2011.
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Post by: Yann on March 30, 2016, 05:44:42 PM
Tulipa cretica from Archanes archaeological site
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Post by: Gabriela on March 30, 2016, 06:06:52 PM
Seems like these cute, little tulips are good flu therapy Yann  :D

I wonder why everyone cultivate them in pots? Could some be grown outside; maybe that gorgeous T. clusiana 'Mountains Pride'?
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Post by: Cfred72 on March 30, 2016, 06:13:41 PM
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1) Tulipa hageri 'Littel Beauty'
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2) Tulipa humilis 'Alba Corulea'
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3) Tulipa X 'Littel Princess'
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4) Tulipa humilis 'Helene'
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Post by: Yann on March 30, 2016, 07:29:10 PM
Gabriela in our wet climate it's easier in pots to manage watering and protection against pouring winter rains.
This is especially true with mediterranean species.
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Post by: Cfred72 on March 31, 2016, 04:14:02 PM
At the moment in the house of glass, clusiana Tulipa 'Stellata' beginning to bloom.
When they are closed or newly opened, I find them very pretty. However, when an insect goes through there, I think they lose their appeal due to pollen that gives an impression of dirty.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 31, 2016, 04:39:34 PM
Gabriela in our wet climate it's easier in pots to manage watering and protection against pouring winter rains.
This is especially true with mediterranean species.
Very true - I keep mine totally dry from June to February.

Here's Tulipa polychroma and Tulipa bifloriformis today
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Post by: Gabriela on March 31, 2016, 06:31:32 PM
Gabriela in our wet climate it's easier in pots to manage watering and protection against pouring winter rains.
This is especially true with mediterranean species.

Ok, that make sense. I start to imagine how it is, this winter has been very mild even here with lots of rain instead of snow. Some alpines already look unhappy…

Very true - I keep mine totally dry from June to February.

Yes, after all a container can be easily kept covered for as long as necessary. But I see Fred's T. humilis are outside, and as far as I remember it rains quite a bit in Belgium too so maybe I should try something like it first.
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Post by: Maggi Young on March 31, 2016, 07:04:14 PM
At the moment in the house of glass, clusiana Tulipa 'Stellata' beginning to bloom.
When they are closed or newly opened, I find them very pretty. However, when an insect goes through there, I think they lose their appeal due to pollen that gives an impression of dirty.

Yes, I know what you mean - it's a problem for  pale flowers with dark pollen - like white lilies.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 01, 2016, 07:31:07 PM
Tulipa regelii did not flower last year, so I am happy to see it back now.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 01, 2016, 07:33:39 PM
Tulipa bifloriformis gets better and better. and Tulipa hissarica is just emerging.
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Post by: Yann on April 01, 2016, 08:41:41 PM
beautiful regelii, mine will not flower this year. It's eratic.
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Post by: Gabriela on April 02, 2016, 01:30:59 AM
Tulipa regelii did not flower last year, so I am happy to see it back now.

I'll be! Look at that leaf!!!
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Post by: ruben on April 02, 2016, 11:02:16 AM
Its Tulip time again  ;D

A small part of the Tulipa collection
Tulipa agenensis
Tulipa carinata - collection from Sina valley in Uzbekistan
Tulipa humilis 'Persian Pearl'
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Post by: ruben on April 02, 2016, 11:03:11 AM
Tulipa praecox
Tulipa schrenkii
Tulipa sogdiana
tulipa vvedenksyii - collection from Chatkal Mts. in Uzbekistan
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 02, 2016, 11:14:35 AM
Earlier than mine, Ruben!
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 03, 2016, 06:31:13 PM
Tulipa kaufmanniana flowering now, and a form of Tulipa sylvestris from Pontus Wallsten about to open.
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Post by: Yann on April 04, 2016, 09:24:11 PM
Tulipa cretica
Tulipa turkestanica from holland crops, quiet different from the one i've sown.
Tulipa 'Lady Jane'
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 06, 2016, 08:45:54 PM
Tulipa aitchisonii and Tulipa ophyophylla just need some sunshine.
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Post by: Maggi Young on April 06, 2016, 09:43:14 PM
Tulipa aitchisonii and Tulipa ophyophylla just need some sunshine.
Don't we all - hope you haven't to wait too long, Ralph.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 08, 2016, 07:53:16 PM
Tulipa schrenkii, Tulipa humilis 'Odalisque', Tulipa lemmersii, Tulipa kurdica, and Tulipa binutans. We are off to Scotland for a week from tomorrow - there will undoubtedly be a mass flowering of  tulips while we are away.
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 08, 2016, 08:55:29 PM
A wealth of gorgeous tulips here, everybody !  :o :o

Let me show some of mine :

Tulipa greigii 'Sunset'

Tulipa dubia ex Beldersai from Janis

Tulipa humilis albocoerulea occulata - not the easiest one to please in the garden I find.
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 08, 2016, 08:59:46 PM
Two more :

Most Tulipa praestans are red, but this one is orangey and was named 'Shogun' .

Tulipa stapfii.

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Post by: Maggi Young on April 08, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
What glorious tulips !

Quote
Luc says : Tulipa humilis albocoerulea occulata - not the easiest one to please in the garden I find.

 I think quite a lot don't find it easy to please this one  anywhere!
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 08, 2016, 09:06:14 PM
Easy to believe you Maggi !  ;)
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Post by: Vincent on April 13, 2016, 11:13:48 AM
I have a question regarding Tulipa schrenkii. I bought two pots this spring and they are flowering now. Is there a possibility that this is natural variation (seed grown plants, even though it seems unlikely) or is it the "colour breaking virus" I've been reading about?
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 13, 2016, 11:53:23 PM
The one on the right could be virused.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 18, 2016, 07:48:28 PM
Just back from a week in Scotland and beginning to warm up. Lots happening in the tulip collection just now.

Tulipa doerfleri

Tulipa greigii

Tulipa ophyophylla

Tulipa bakeri
MS781

Tulipa sylvestris
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 18, 2016, 07:50:57 PM
And two forms of Tulipa montana from Kurt Vickery.
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Post by: Yann on April 18, 2016, 10:00:22 PM
lovely set of tulips!
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Post by: Philip Walker on April 20, 2016, 12:14:36 PM
T. linifolia
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
Tulipa clusiana var. chrysantha, T. 'Burgundy' (from Great Dixter), and T. 'Rococco'.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2016, 02:30:30 PM
Went to an English Heritage members event at Walmer Castle on Wednesday entitled "Tulip Fever". Partly it was Deborah Moggach promoting here novel of that name, and partly about the tulips in the gardens. The Head Gardener Rachel Clark has caught the tulip bug, and apart from extensive tulip plantings in the gardens she is building up a collection of historic cultivars, which were on display in the greenhouse. Some photographs follow:
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
Some more:
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2016, 02:35:04 PM
Last few:
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2016, 02:46:34 PM
Quite a lot going on in my own collection here. They must like the cold weather.

Tulipa 'Ivory Floradale', Tulipa clusiana f. cashmeriana, Tulipa armena, Tulipa heweri, Tulipa tschimganica.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2016, 02:56:34 PM
More. Tulipa montana var. chrysantha, ditto, a wider leaved form, Tulipa greigii 'Toronto', Tulipa greigii, the species, Tulipa cretica in bud.
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Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 25, 2016, 12:50:59 AM
Ralph,
What a great range of tulips!
Your collection is impressive and the ones from Walmer Castle are fascinating.
I'm doing a talk soon to a local garden club on Tulips - please expect a PM from me,  ;D
cheers
fermi
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 26, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
Tulipa aucheriana
blooming yesterday 25/5/16 in sand bed,
reliable for several years outside unprotected.
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 27, 2016, 02:00:11 PM
some tulips blooming today
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Post by: Tony Willis on April 27, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Tulipa doerfleri which has proved very difficult to flower here. I now plant it at the bottom of a long tom pot which seems to help stop it splitting into numerous non flowering bulbs.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 27, 2016, 04:26:24 PM
Tony, Kurt Vickery advised me to plant this one right at the bottom of my deepest long tom pot.
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Post by: Tony Willis on April 27, 2016, 08:27:26 PM
Tony, Kurt Vickery advised me to plant this one right at the bottom of my deepest long tom pot.

When I have seen it several times in the wild it was growing in ploughed fields and was clearly growing below the level of the plough. Before my last visit two years ago I had been told it was almost totally destroyed but when we arrived it was there in thousands.
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Post by: Roma on April 27, 2016, 10:18:20 PM
Lovely picture, Tony.  Almost like a painting.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 28, 2016, 06:10:11 PM
A few more flowering today:

Tulipa humilis 'Little Beauty'
Tulipa aleppensis
Tulipa clusiana f.cashmeriana.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 28, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
Tulipa armena, Tulipa dubia, Tulipa vvedenski.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 28, 2016, 06:24:07 PM
Tulipa dasystemon, Tulipa juliae, Tulipa urumiensis, Tulipa 'Abu Hassan'.
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 28, 2016, 06:58:22 PM
You have a cracking collection Ralph
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 28, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
Thank you, David.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 01, 2016, 08:25:05 PM
A few lost-label garden tulips.
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Post by: Regelian on May 03, 2016, 10:26:17 AM
Ralph,
I inherited quite a few tulips in the garden, no labels, of course, but a few must be well over 30 years old and still surviving.  Certainly cultivars from the garden centre, but their tenacity in my wet climate makes them endearing.  One looks like Princes Irene, a classic beauty.

Great to see so many of your starting from seed.  I've tried this in the rockery, but some animal took the bulbs last Winter.  Guess pots are the way to go.  And on the balcony!

j.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 04, 2016, 03:09:07 PM
Jamie, I have to confess that I have not raised my specie tulips from seed; I bought bulbs from Janis, Kurt Vickery and others. I do have some seedlings but not yet flowering size.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 04, 2016, 03:19:49 PM
Went to the Tulip Festival at Pashley Manor in East Sussex yesterday. Masses of people despite being a week-day, and of course masses of tulips. Lovely house, part Tudor and with Boleyn connections, and part Queen Anne. House is not open to the public but the gardens are and are worth a visit in any season. Some pictures...
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 04, 2016, 03:21:47 PM
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 04, 2016, 03:23:35 PM
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Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 04, 2016, 03:24:33 PM
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 04, 2016, 03:27:43 PM
There is an excellent cafe/restaurant, and there was also  marquee showing cut tulips and offering a retail opportunity to order them from Bloms. Some of the cut blooms were huge - dinner plate size.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on May 04, 2016, 03:29:46 PM
Super pix, Ralph.  You'd never guess the front and rear views were of the same building - looks like the period split is along the middle!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: WimB on May 04, 2016, 04:01:38 PM
Some of those old, heavily virused Rembrandt-tulips.. kept well away from other species and cultivars and made sure no vectors (aphids) visit them...strangely enough (even though they are sick) I like them....let the disapproving comments commence  :P

Tulipa 'Absalon'
Tulipa 'Insulinde'
Tulipa 'Columbine' (2 x)
Tulipa 'Mabel'
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: WimB on May 04, 2016, 04:03:04 PM
And to compensate, some healthy Neo-Tulipae:

Tulipa aximensis (2 x)
Tulipa platystigma
and Tulipa marjolettii
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 04, 2016, 04:15:48 PM
Very nice Wim. I especially like T. platystigma.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: ruben on May 04, 2016, 09:44:50 PM
Some Tulipa in flower

Neo tulipa billietiana x3
Tulipa grengiolensis
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: ruben on May 04, 2016, 09:45:59 PM
Tulipa karabachensis
tulipa platystigma
Tulipa rhodopea
Tulipa rubidosa
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: ruben on May 04, 2016, 09:48:07 PM
Some of the last 2 weeks

Tulipa batalinii 'Bronze Charm'
Tulipa anadroma
tulipa korolkowii
Tulipa ingens
Tulipa carinata
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 05, 2016, 02:25:31 PM
Very nice Ruben. My T. platystigma looks different to the ones shown by you and Wim. Did I get the wrong bulb?

Edit May 7th: now identified as Tulipa planifolia.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 05, 2016, 02:28:36 PM
A couple of cultivars: Tulipa 'Lasting Love', from Great Dixter, and an unidentified tulip which looks good growing through Peony leaves.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 05, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
Some more species: Tulipa sosnowskyi, T. primulina, T. micheliana, T. tschimganica, T. armena Red Form.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 05, 2016, 02:38:11 PM
A few more: Tulipa carinata, T. maximowiczii, T. linifolia, T. ostrowskiana.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: WimB on May 05, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
Very nice Ruben. My T. platystigma from you looks different to the ones shown by you and Wim. Did I get the wrong bulb?

That's wrong, John! T. platystigma is always pink-lila coloured with a bluish heart! I'd say your's closer to Tulipa aleppensis or Tulipa didieri but still not quite.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 07, 2016, 11:03:13 AM
Mystery solved. My supplier says he sent Tulipa planifolia in error.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Tristan_He on May 07, 2016, 09:08:53 PM
Tulips are so beautiful. I'm not a collector but I love the splash of colour they bring in April and May. Our thin dusty soil seems to suit them here, as despite our high rainfall they usually get to dry out a bit in summer in the right place. These are 'Apeldoorn Elite' which have increased from an initial planting of 30 bulbs to well over 100 in 3-4 years.

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Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on May 07, 2016, 09:18:07 PM
That's a good rate of increase for such a tulip. And quite the show it makes too, I agree.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Tristan_He on May 07, 2016, 09:39:14 PM
If I get a tulip increase in any way I am happy Maggi! Where I come from in Devon they tend to fizzle away in the heavy clay.

Here it's better and most forms at least persist. As well as the Apeldoorn Elite I have T. tarda and T. sprengeri seeding themselves.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on May 07, 2016, 09:45:37 PM
seeding plants are happy plants in my book!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 08, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
Some more garden tulips: Tulipa 'Hakuun', T. 'Hatsuzakura', T. 'Shirley'.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on May 08, 2016, 01:24:30 PM
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Tulipa 'Hakuun'
     :o 8)  Very pretty.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on May 08, 2016, 04:25:07 PM
All very pretty
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 09, 2016, 12:06:23 PM
Thank you both! Here are some more specie tulips, including some of the Neo Tulipae which taxonomists say should all be lumped under Tulipa x gesneriana.

Tulipa passeriana, Tulipa fulgens, Tulipa rubidosa.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 09, 2016, 12:13:08 PM
Tulipa karabachensis, Tulipa galatica, Tulipa maximowiczii, Tulipa aleppensis. T. aleppensis just starting to go over.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 10, 2016, 08:23:52 PM
Tulipa passeriana, Tulipa planifolia - not the one sold to me as T. platysigma - and Tulipa rhodopea.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Gerdk on May 11, 2016, 09:41:02 AM
Unfortunately I lost the label and so don`t know what is growing here.
Anyone here who can help me with a name?

Gerd
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 11, 2016, 10:35:22 AM
Probably Tulipa saxatilis (Bakeri Group) 'Lilac Wonder'.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Roma on May 11, 2016, 11:26:29 AM
I'm no tulip expert but to me it looks more like Tulipa aucheriana.  The yellow centre in Tulipa saxatilis is more defined.

Tulipa bakeri.  I did not plant it under Salix lanata in shade but it seems happy there ;D
Tulipa aucheriana
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Gerdk on May 12, 2016, 06:54:30 AM
Thank you both!
I tend to Tulipa aucheriana - found this name in my (disorderly) notes.

Gerd
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Gerdk on May 12, 2016, 06:57:43 AM
This is the black tulip of Cyprus - Tulipa cypria
not as black as suspected but interesting (and surprisingly hardy outside).

Gerd
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 12, 2016, 10:48:36 AM
That's lovely, Gerd, and hard to find - I don't have it.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 12, 2016, 08:08:25 PM
Getting towards the end now - plenty of reds still.

Also Tulipa bithynica, tiny but special, Tulipa ferganica, and Tulipa karabachensis.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 16, 2016, 11:58:33 AM
Tulipa passeriana, Tulipa batalinii.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 26, 2016, 02:09:44 PM
Still some stragglers: Tulipa norvegica, probably more correctly described as Tulipa x gesneriana 'Pilot'.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Yann on May 26, 2016, 07:26:35 PM
Great Ralph, mine are already repotted  :o
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Yann on May 26, 2016, 07:27:54 PM
Gerd your cypria are somptuous, grown from seeds?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Gerdk on May 27, 2016, 08:52:58 AM
Gerd your cypria are somptuous, grown from seeds?

Yes, but it tooks a very long time until flowering size!

Gerd
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 27, 2016, 12:14:45 PM
I can't boast a display like Mike Ireland, but here is Tulipa sprengeri.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: François Lambert on May 27, 2016, 12:20:04 PM
John, how old is your Tulipa sprengeri ?  I have now 2 seedlings in their second year, still very small ...
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 27, 2016, 12:24:18 PM
I got it as a flowering size bulb, François, so I don't know.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: FrazerHenderson on May 30, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
T. anadroma and close up of m/f parts.

T. griegii with beetles
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Roma on June 14, 2016, 08:29:04 PM
Last of the tulips
Tulipa sprengeri
They are going over quickly with the hot sunny weather last week and the rain we're having now.  The lily flowering tulip 'Burgundy' looked good for a month.
These pictures were taken a week ago.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 28, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
Tulipa cretica is the first one in our garden this year,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 02, 2016, 10:14:08 AM
Tulipa saxatilis 'Lilac Wonder' Bakeri group in bud this morning and wide open in the spring sunshine
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 10, 2016, 02:22:07 PM
The Lady Tulip, Tulipa clusiana is now flowering in the rock garden.
It has a very unlady-like tendency to wander out of her bed as can be seen in the first pic having gone from the left side of the garden to the right over a few years,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Robert on September 10, 2016, 02:54:19 PM
Hi Fermi,

Lovely Tulipa clusiana. In our garden they not only wander around, but they also seed about (and cross with each other) too. We are 6 months off on sharing any photographs of them.

Our Sacramento garden gets shady if I am not diligent with pruning during the winter (summer too for that matter). The tulips will be quite happy when I finally provide more sun for them during the winter pruning season.

Calochortus season is coming up for you. I look forward to see what you have this season. I have a few others for you to try - I am just proceeding sooooo slowly this year. :-[  At least they are all safe until I finally get around to cleaning them up.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 10, 2016, 03:03:47 PM
Nice to hear from you, Robert.
We rarely get any seed on our tulips - maybe we don'y have the right pollinators?
I've raised some tulips from seed but they do take ages! Good to know about the calochortus seed ;D
Here's Tulipa saxatilis on its march across the world! The last one is on the other side of a 3 foot-wide rock path from the main clump!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Robert on September 11, 2016, 04:56:44 AM
Fermi,

We do not get seed on any of our Tulipa species unless I hand pollinate them. The one exception is T. clusiana. They always set seed for us without any effort on my part. T. clusiana  seedlings always seem to come on much more quickly for us too. I have seedlings of other species (and my own hybrids too) that are 5 + years old. No flowers yet.  ::)  (I am still waiting!) For us seedlings of T. clusiana would already be blooming. In the past all of our tulips were grown at the farm where there is plenty of winter chill (at least until recently there was  :(  ). Now that the bulk of our tulips are in Sacramento I may need to pre-chill them - something I rather not do.  :P   :)

Anyway, thank you for sharing everything.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 11, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Tulipa greigii (most likely 'Red Riding Hood') in the rock garden,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Jupiter on September 11, 2016, 11:55:54 PM
Tulipa hageri and Tulipa aucheriana

Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 12, 2016, 01:34:30 AM
Hii Jamus,
your "hageri" looks to be the hybrid 'Little Princess' (between T. hageri and T. humilis or T. kurdica depending on who you reference).
We've discussed it in the past and Armin pointed out to me the differences,
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4955.msg169845#msg169845 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4955.msg169845#msg169845) see reply 373
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Jupiter on September 12, 2016, 02:26:41 AM
Hi Fermi yes you are right. I knew that because I bought it as that, but I hate calling it little princess, so I shortened it to hageri. Should have known I wouldn't get away with that kind of inaccuracy here. ;)   thanks for the link, interesting reading... I am enjoying learning about these Tulips and will no doubt drag more in to the garden over time.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 16, 2016, 01:09:55 PM
Tulipa clusiana & T.greigii in the rock garden;
Tulipa clusiana close-up with bees;
Tulipa 'White Liberstar'
Tulipa clusiana ex 'Tinka' SRGC seedex 2007;
Tulipa stapfi
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 19, 2016, 04:40:11 AM
Tulipa albertii (some Forumists have questioned this ID and have suggested that it is T. vvedenskyi)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: vanozzi on September 20, 2016, 04:43:46 AM
Help please!!
I have two plants that seem to my inexperienced eye to be identical, except for pollen colour.

One has always been referred by me as Hageri ''Little Beauty'' and has yellow pollen, the other seems identical, and of course has no tag,but has dark pollen.Both the same height and are flowering now, ''Little Beauty'' opened a day before the other.All plants are in the same deep polystyrene box.

Over on the PBS pages they have a tulip that resembles my dark pollen clone and carries the name Pulchella.
Thanks
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Otto Fauser on September 20, 2016, 08:39:06 AM
Hello Paul,
your 2 tulips are both Tulipa pulchella 'Little Beauty', which is the correct name . It is one of my favorite tulips and much easier to grow and flower than the species pulchella , as our winters here are not cold enough .
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: vanozzi on September 20, 2016, 02:48:15 PM
Thanks for that clarification Otto.It too, is one of my favorites.
I have crossed one with the other,and each of the others with aucheriana, as well as aucheriana selfed.Have seedlings not too far off from flowering, but not in good numbers.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 22, 2016, 03:46:07 AM
A T.vvedenskyi x T. greigii hybrid originally from Janis via Marcus Harvey; nicely marked foliage; not sure if this has a varietal name;
A seedling ex Tulipa clusiana 'Lady Jane' which isn't as deeply coloured on the exterior;
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 02, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia', flowering this morning;
Tulipa 'Little Princess' (only starting now over here);
Tulipa vvedenskyi  (from RHS 1998 - back when they would send seed to Australia!);
Tulipa aucheriana, again a few weeks behind Jamus' garden;
Tulipa 'Cape Cod'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 14, 2016, 03:41:03 PM
Still some tulips in the Rock Garden!
Tulipa 'Little Princess'
Tulipa 'Piccolo' (a paler version of 'Little Princess' as far as I can see)
What I hope is the true Tulipa hageri 'Splendens'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 27, 2016, 01:06:21 PM
Tulipa linifolia,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Yann on October 27, 2016, 10:13:25 PM
always funny for us to see Tulipa flowering in autumn ;)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 11, 2016, 01:55:57 AM
always funny for us to see Tulipa flowering in autumn ;)
I wonder why there aren't any autumn flowering tulips ???
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I'm not sure why I didn't post this pic back in September of Tulipa "Fergana Group" (which I'd grown for ages as T. kolpakowskiana) though I wonder if it's actually a form of Tulipa clusiana! I'd commented to Robert that we never seem to get seed set on our tulips but this year all the T. clusiana varieties seem to set seed - the only other one to form pods was the "Fergana Group"
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Anyone of this opinion as well?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Robert on November 11, 2016, 04:13:01 AM
Fermi,

I'll be curious if there is an answer to your question. I certainly see some resemblance to Tulipa clusiana.

I wonder what got into your T. clusianas to set seed this year?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 11, 2016, 05:34:23 AM
I wonder what got into your T. clusianas to set seed this year?
I suspect bees
::)
Sorry, Robert! ;D
I think the wet winter and mild spring meant there was sufficient moisture in the soil to foster seed set.
Bees would've helped\, too.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: FrazerHenderson on December 21, 2016, 07:50:27 PM
I've placed similar details on the VRV Forum and am looking for help in identification. The first two are from western Kyrgyzstan not far from the village of Jany-Bazar - I think they might be T. turkestanica. They re certainly from the Biflores subgenus. The last two were taken near Sary-Chalek - I'm stumped on these because the capsule does not accord with those species I'd expect in that location. Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks to Maggi for rotating photos.

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Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: Tulipaholic on December 23, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
Frazer, the first 2 photo,s shows a similar tulip that is sold by P. Christian with fieldnr. ARJA 0071. I keep them as turkestanica as it has similar bulbs. Differences are the big seedpods. that looks more in the direction of bifloriformis.
The plants on photo 3 and 4 are completly unknown to me. It can be either a biflora tulip or a ferganica alike. Have you seen the bulbs?
Where do you find it, below the reserve or above the lakes?

greetings
Sjaak de Groot
Title: Re: Tulipa 2016
Post by: FrazerHenderson on December 23, 2016, 11:24:53 PM
Sjaak

Thanks for the identification comments.

Photos 3 and 4 were taken within the Sary Chelek reserve but shortly after entering the main gates, well before reaching the village of Akvit. The plants were on an eastern scree slope concealed from the road by vegetation. Alas, I did not record the bulbs. 

The road up to the lake beyond the village was covered in tulips in bloom see photographs 1-3 (note height and the typical T. anadroma stamens) I also found 4 near the lakes

Regards

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