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Title: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: YT on January 03, 2016, 09:53:23 AM
Scilla ingridiae, JJA. 874.009
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Post by: Carlo on January 04, 2016, 12:33:53 PM
Lovely little plant! I'm not familiar with this species. Does it stay on the small side (for Scilla)? Great to see blooming plants and new seedlings in the same pot!
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: YT on January 04, 2016, 02:37:58 PM
Lovely little plant! I'm not familiar with this species. Does it stay on the small side (for Scilla)? Great to see blooming plants and new seedlings in the same pot!
Hello Carlo. Yes, this plant stays small for Scilla. See the picture below taken last season. The ruler in the picture is a metric unit.
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Carlo on January 04, 2016, 03:26:44 PM
Fantastic! I will have to look for seed in the US...anyone?
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Post by: Yann on January 09, 2016, 04:46:12 PM
it's really a dark and mild day, Scilla messeniaca brings sweet colors

If you're interested by the genius : DIE FRÜHJAHRSBLÜHENDEN SCILLA by FRANZ SPETA

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Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Yann on January 23, 2016, 07:42:42 PM
Scilla bithynica, an easy one
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Post by: Yann on January 30, 2016, 05:05:50 PM
Scillia messeniaca
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Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 10:24:17 AM
Scillia messeniaca is now if full bloom
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Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Scilla ingridae taurica, from RRW, a little cuttie :P
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Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 05:24:19 PM
Scilla cilicica - Syria
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Post by: Maggi Young on February 06, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
The  little blues are  cute - after all, what's not to like about blue pollen, shown in a great close-up?
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 05:37:11 PM
The flower is 16-20mm diam, it's quiet small yes. I repotted it in a new compost elaborated with Wim's piece of land (he'll know) and lots of small sharp grit.
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Post by: ashley on February 06, 2016, 06:04:24 PM
The  little blues are  cute - after all, what's not to like about blue pollen, shown in a great close-up?

All beauties Yann, but I find them tricky to distinguish.
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Post by: Cfred72 on February 07, 2016, 01:26:26 PM
Here is the first Scilla Siberica that blooms for me in the garden. I have carpets annually.
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Post by: Yann on February 07, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
Scilla puschkinioides - large form
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Post by: Yann on February 13, 2016, 02:38:38 PM
Hyacinthella reverchonii from RRW
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Post by: Yann on February 22, 2016, 09:28:58 PM
Scilla armena - Erzican province - TK
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Post by: YT on March 01, 2016, 03:42:09 PM
Nice collection, Yann :)
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Post by: YT on March 01, 2016, 03:43:37 PM
Scilla mesopotamica, from Janis in 2012
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 02, 2016, 08:29:59 PM
Scilla winogradowii
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1612/25330600632_a804aeb92c_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on March 12, 2016, 06:27:11 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before - but no harm in repeating  it anyway :   

"Key To Scilla And Close Relatives

Here is a simple key highlighting the differences between Scilla and its close relatives Chionodoxa (widely accepted as part of Scilla sensu lato as Scilla sect. Chionodoxa), and Puschkinia. No matter what they are called, the species can be difficult to tell apart. This simple guide may be useful in this regard. This was not so much created for taxonomic purposes, but rather for the gardener who wishes to be able to determine what they are growing easier. "

http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/KeyToScillaAndCloseRelatives (http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/KeyToScillaAndCloseRelatives)     
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Yann on March 12, 2016, 07:53:40 PM
Steve nice photo.
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Post by: papapoly on March 14, 2016, 06:19:53 PM
On a recent trip to Peloponnese I came across this muscari in Northern Peloponnese.

Can anyone identify it?

George Papapolymerou
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Oron Peri on March 16, 2016, 09:45:13 AM
Muscari pulchellum
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Post by: Oron Peri on March 16, 2016, 09:55:37 AM
Two forms of Scila peruviana, scilla hyacinthides, muscari muscarimi, Leopoldia cycladica in flower at the moment.
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Post by: papapoly on March 16, 2016, 06:44:40 PM
Thanks Oron

My Muscari muscarimi is also in full growth and is flowering profusely.  I have got more than 25 flowering plants.  It's been raing hard for 5 days so I haven't got any pictures of it.  May be tommorrow or Friday.

In which island is Leopoldia cycladica endemic to?  Do you know when it is flowering in the wild? 

George Papapolymerou
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Oron Peri on March 16, 2016, 08:37:45 PM
George,
L. cycladica is present in most of the Cyclades Islands and in Crete. It blooms in March.
I have 3 different collection, theone i showed earlier is from seeds collected in Santorini.
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: ian mcdonald on March 20, 2016, 03:05:04 PM
Grape hyacinth img. 1010104. Glory of the snow,chionodoxa luciliae img. 1010101. Scilla? species img. 1010108.
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Post by: Roma on March 22, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
Scilla - sibirica group but not sure of the species
Chionodoxa  from a stray bulb I got in a clump of snowdrops from a friend
Scilla bifolia
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on March 25, 2016, 03:54:09 PM
At home too, Scilla siberica start to become pretty. They naturalize very well.
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Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: papapoly on March 28, 2016, 07:28:58 PM
I bought this species as Hyacinthella sp, 3 years ago from Potterton.  Now it is flowering well but, it seems to me more like a Muscari sp.  Which one, I don't know.  Beautiful neverthless.

George
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Gerdk on March 29, 2016, 08:58:00 AM
This is Scilla (Fessia) greilhuberi ex AGS seed 2013.
I like the reflexed tepals in the manner of Scilla rosenii - maybe the flowers
are somewhat smaller.

Gerd
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Post by: johnstephen29 on June 14, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
Scilla peruviana in flower here with me and spreading nicely.

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Post by: Maggi Young on June 14, 2016, 07:56:51 PM
Scilla peruviana in flower here with me and spreading nicely.


Very nice John - is that outside in the open garden?
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Post by: johnstephen29 on June 15, 2016, 06:58:54 PM
Hi Maggi yes it is, the last few winters have been mild here so I suppose that helps, but it is supposed to be hardy. It is really generous with seeds as well and I sent a lot into the seedex and will again this year most likely, you should get yourself some Maggi and get Ian to germinate them in his bulb house.
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on June 15, 2016, 07:26:37 PM
That sounds like a good  plan, John.  :)
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Post by: johnstephen29 on June 15, 2016, 08:12:29 PM
 ;D
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 18, 2016, 04:49:44 PM
it is Scilla season again in the northern hemisphere.

Proposero autumnale (Scilla autumnalis) has been blooming sporadically since July 31
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Scilla scilloides (Barnardia japonica) is in bloom for a week already and
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yesterday i noticed this early black leaved Moroccan Scilla lingulata emerging.
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Post by: Matt T on August 18, 2016, 06:59:37 PM
yesterday i noticed this early black leaved Moroccan Scilla lingulata emerging.

Oh! That is rather different and stunning even before the flowers are out.
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Gabriela on August 18, 2016, 07:38:30 PM
yesterday i noticed this early black leaved Moroccan Scilla lingulata emerging.
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Wow! Worth growing just for the foliage!
Rimmer, is that an open wooden raised bed, or you use it as a covered frame in the winter?
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 18, 2016, 08:02:41 PM

Rimmer, is that an open wooden raised bed, or you use it as a covered frame in the winter?

it is in a frame made from 2" x 12" boards with a 1/4" sreen on top to keep the chipmunks out. i have in past wrapped the cover with plastic and filled the 2" frame gap with bubble wrap, but this past winter which only got down to about +5F to zero F (-15 to -18C), i did none of that but had a sheet of polycarbonate greenhouse siding place on top with bricks for cold nights below 15F (-10C) and propped it open most of the winter.  so i wonder if i really need protection between freezing and 15F (-10C).
most Scilla lingulata get moldy if they freeze and dont have air, that is why i kept the frame open last winter which happened to be very mild for Michigan.
frame pics from last fall
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Post by: Gabriela on August 18, 2016, 09:31:38 PM
Thank you Rimmer. I need something like that even for 'regular' small seedlings, just because of the chipmunks  >:( I had in mind small PVC arches over the frame, like a miniature greenhouse but your slanted cover is more practical.
Yes, last winter was mild but I'm sure you remember the other previous two of them, so the possibility of adding protection on top is important.
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 22, 2016, 01:25:01 PM
more pics of frame- snow picture is from 17 March 2015
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 22, 2016, 05:31:49 PM
More Scilla (Hyacinthoides) lingulata from N. Africa beginning to bloom in a sourh facing frame a few days after a good rain.  And the one posted last week as emerging now has a few open flowers.
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Post by: Gabriela on August 22, 2016, 07:09:34 PM
S. lingulata is such a beauty!
Thanks for the additional images Rimmer; I've decided to have at least one with the slanted cover (not that I'll start to grow bulbs and such, well maybe a Scilla or two...  ???  ::)
Actually, S. scilloides can be grown and flowers well in the open ground in this region.
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 22, 2016, 07:49:18 PM
The scilliodes and barnardia and prospero and acis autumnal are all grown out side in open sandy beds here for many years.
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 30, 2016, 05:39:19 PM
Scilla lingulata (Hyacinthoides lingulata) early form in bloom
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Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 30, 2016, 01:02:46 PM
Scilla melaina survives in our garden while S. sibrica won't,
cheers
fermi
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Post by: Yann on September 30, 2016, 04:45:01 PM
Scilla autumnalis, seeds collected on the Lasithi Plateau and sown in 2010, first time in bloom.
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Yann on October 23, 2016, 07:26:13 PM
Scilla lingulata alba, so tiny flowers that i didn't it blooming in a corner of the greenhouse.
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Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 24, 2016, 07:27:13 AM
Very petite, Yann!
Here we have one of the larger, spring flowering ones making a show:
Scilla peruviana
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Scilla & relatives 2016
Post by: Yann on October 25, 2016, 07:07:46 PM
Scilla lingulata var ciliolata is up and in bloom
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on November 05, 2016, 01:28:16 AM
Scilla madeirensis. This plant seems to like to take a year off from blooming
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