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Title: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Mark Griffiths on December 23, 2015, 06:38:54 PM
My AGS seed has just arrived. It includes a few Alliums and Narcissus - should I sow them now or wait until spring?
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Yann on December 23, 2015, 07:22:09 PM
I'll say now, Narcissus need cool nights to germinate. I sown my last batch of Allium, Bellevalia 2 week ago and some of the seeds are already germinated.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Maggi Young on December 23, 2015, 07:44:20 PM
yes, now.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Lewis Potter on December 23, 2015, 09:32:53 PM
I got some Fritillaria seed in the SRGC exchange. When is the best time to sow it? Are some species different than others?
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Maggi Young on December 23, 2015, 09:50:44 PM
Mediterranean species  are best kept till next August  but  the  North American, Chinese  and some other Asian species will give you some germination soon if you sow now.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Mark Griffiths on December 23, 2015, 11:13:18 PM
thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Lewis Potter on January 07, 2016, 06:54:40 PM
Thanks Maggi. Is there a maximum limit to sowing? sorry for the late reply, been so busy planning for the ideal home show I haven't been here to look at anything.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2016, 07:14:59 PM
You can sow almost anytime , Lewis -  bulb seed  tends to be more fussy - since if you miss its "time window" it can easily rot. But if you  sow it and keep  the pots in good conditions - not tooo hot  or cold etc - then many seeds are very forgiving.
For the most part, I prefer to sow  before the plants would be growing naturally, since many  seeds will germinate at the time when their "parent" plants are starting into  growth.   Does that help?
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: David Nicholson on January 07, 2016, 07:25:29 PM
Feeling better Maggi?
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2016, 07:33:33 PM
Not really, thanks, David!   Got too much to do to  languish though, so back to work.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on January 07, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Sorry to hear that, there's a Scottish beverage which should help.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: David Nicholson on January 07, 2016, 09:10:31 PM
Numbs, but doesn't cure, but worth a small glassful, say every ten minutes!
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2016, 09:16:21 PM
You lot are no help - kind, but no help - I cannot work if pie-eyed!
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Lewis Potter on January 07, 2016, 10:09:28 PM
Yes that does. Thank you.

PS. Get better soon. :)
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2016, 10:25:44 PM
Thanks, Lewis !
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Matt T on January 12, 2016, 03:05:15 PM
Lewis, see here (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6490.msg348149#msg348149) for a pic of Fritillaria seeds I received in January 2015, kept in a cool room until October 2015 when I sowed them as usual. They appear to have retained good viability and I have no doubt they're doing better than if I had sown them a year ago.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Lewis Potter on January 12, 2016, 07:43:28 PM
Lewis, see here (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6490.msg348149#msg348149) for a pic of Fritillaria seeds I received in January 2015, kept in a cool room until October 2015 when I sowed them as usual. They appear to have retained good viability and I have no doubt they're doing better than if I had sown them a year ago.

Thanks Matt, Should I keep all Fritillaria seed to be sown in October then? Because it looks to have work well for you. Or dose this apply just for certain species.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Matt T on January 12, 2016, 08:22:43 PM
I'm mainly sowing the Mediterranean species Lewis, for which the usual advice is to sow before Christmas. Seeds received after that are better saved to be sown the following autumn because 1. they will not experience the necessary conditions (a long, cool and moist period) to trigger germination and 2. being thin papery seeds are more likely to rot if left in pots for a year. It's easier to keep them in good (viable) condition in a cool dry place. So, for Med species I'd definitely keep them for sowing in October.

I have only an odd potful of species from other regions and would defer to Maggi's advice below (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13855.msg346880#msg346880). I was pleased with how quickly the F. liliacea (N. American) germinated compared to other frits - the first seedlings from that batch of sowing in mid-October and up well before Christmas.

Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Lewis Potter on January 12, 2016, 10:03:51 PM
Ok, Thanks for that Matt. Ill see what region they are native too. Then sow them at the right time from there.
Title: Re: Sow bulb seeds now?
Post by: Susan Band on January 13, 2016, 09:01:31 AM
Matt, due to American Frit germinating so quickly I am moving their sowing time to the beginning of December. They are only starting to germinate now which I feel is better as it reduces the time having to survive dark dingy days. It's only the American Frits I do this to, others I sow before October.
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