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Title: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 01, 2015, 04:42:04 AM
Flowering nicely in a water-pot is the variegated form of Iris laevigata which we got from Paul T a couple of years ago.
And a second calochortus for the season, Calochortus venustus
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on November 01, 2015, 01:03:56 PM
I'm not a lover of variegated foliage - but my, that Iris flower is beautiful.  Fine Calochortus too - they're all super aren't they?
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2015, 09:42:24 AM
I AM a lover of variegated foliage - but in moderation and think it should always be surrounded (and enhanced) by plain colours but each to his own of course. We introduced a class for alpines with variegated foliage at our Show in October and there were about 8 entries, all of really nice plants.

This first picture is not exactly variegated but has wonderful markings all the same. It is Podophyllum delavayi and the two with it are from the same batch of seed, so different. No flowers yet but eagerly awaited :)

Then one of many double auriculas this year, a lovely dusty pink.

Fritillaria monantha is from FGAGS seed and this is the third blooming, each better than the last. Two stems this year even though there is just the one bulb. I hand pollinated it but didn't expect seed from the single clone. However, a fat pod is forming and looking as if it will mature. It is a very late species for me, still in flower now (the second stem).

The other Podophyllum seedlings from the same batch.

I had some seed from the late Josef Hoeller just weeks before he died. One packet was of mixed Gentiana acaulis and clusii and while most have had the regulation deep blue flowers, this lovely one and one other are different. The other is pure white, with just the green throat markings. Both are special and will be propagated from cuttings.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2015, 10:24:49 AM
Here's the white one but holed by something chewy in each lobe, while it was still unfolded.
Both forms have made nice pods. :)

Dodecatheon pauciflorum 'Redwings' looks great in a shady spot but today was dull and dark so the flash went on and that doesn't help.

Also suffering from the flash, Arisaema nepenthoides, usually the fist of mine to flower since I lost A/ sikokianum, I think to drought.

One of a series of wonderful little Myosotis hybrids from Hokonui Alpines. Their original parents were M. uniflora (pale yellow scab of a plant) and M. capitata (clear blue, from the sub Antarctic islands. The little children are perfect cushions, soft and furry since the introduction into their breeding, of M. pulvinaris. There are several now, all real gems.   

Another dwarf bearded iris, a local one, called 'Maui Moon'                               
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 03, 2015, 10:26:50 AM

OOoo, Myosotis pulvinaris is loverly. I want one. :)
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on November 03, 2015, 10:29:12 AM
Me too. Nice stuff Lesley.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2015, 10:42:21 AM
The double auricula seed from Barbhaven and sown two years ago almost to the day (6/11/13) has been a great thrill with 38 sof 45 seedlings so far, being double and a few of the remaining ones showing semi double. They seem to be fuller in their second year so I think most will be double by next year. There are all colours from white, cream and yellows, tawny and orange, reds a couple of soft pinks (not the one above), pale and dark blues and purples, even a bright lime green! One I am naming 'Flamenco' because of its serrated edging and ochre colour suffused in the centre with crimson and fully crimson of the petal backs. Maybe a couple of others when they're matured and can be judged better. My neighbour who has a large marmalade cat wants the orange one to be named 'Ginger Tom.' :D
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2015, 11:18:58 AM
A few more irises.

Dwarf Bearded Iris 'Pure Allure'

DB Iris 'Hustle'

DB Iris (orangey gold) can't remember name until the morning. Could be 'Marksman').

DB Iris little blue (also need to check the name. I love these little blues. Their colour is so intense and yet limpid.

An Intermediate iris, an Aridbred (i.e. having something of either oncocyclus or regelia species in its breeding) 'Bird Dancer'
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on November 04, 2015, 07:17:59 AM
Hello Lesley ,
  you have shown us so many beautiful and desirable plants from your garden in the last few weeks , most not available in Australia .My 'must haves' would have to be Daphne petraea  'Persabee' ,even Don in the Blue Mountains does not grow a D. petraea.I remember the supplier of your plant some 6 or so years ago showing us how to graft Daphnes at the Christchurch Study Weekend .Also unavailable here are Gentiana depressa , Myosotis pulvinaris hyb, , and Frit. monantha ,which I have never seen before : is it checkered inside ?
Your Gentiana acaulis pale blue is nicer than mine ,I grew it from seed labelled 'Iceberg' ,it has just a hint of the palest blue but is very free flowering .Here my Glaucidium palmatum sends up a couple of leaves every year and never flowers - despite living in luxury .I suspect it isnot cold enough here , as Trillium grandiflorum  fl. pl. flowers always abort here . Do you think I should give the pot a 3 months chill in the fridge ?
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 04, 2015, 10:22:02 AM
Lesley you have such a wonderful collection.

I agree with Otto and Jamus on the Myosotis and adore the pale gentian. Your 'bird dance' iris is also rather special.
Thank you for showing them.

From me today:
1. The tiny white ericaceous flowers of the honey-cup Zenobia pulverulenta
2. The Carillon foxglove is a dear little perennial maybe only 30 cm high with primrose-coloured flowers
3. Geranium pratense flourishes near the back steps. Sadly plain white - not 'splish-splash' as anticipated.
4. Arisaema candidissimum has just flowered
5. The icy-white buds of Deutzia setchuenensis appear like clusters of pearls
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on November 04, 2015, 11:41:48 AM
Those Zenobia pulverulenta flowers are  very cute.
  I read that  the plant is hardy down to minus 20 C and the flowers are aniseed scented - sounds good.

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 04, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Hi Maggi,

They are very cute and sweetly scented - thank you for saying so. I hadn't noticed an aniseed element to the scent, but shall check and report back.  :)

Zenobia could well be cold hardy. Struggles in the heat here but has stayed alive, albeit one of the 3 plants I have has gone into its own personal Autumn this month.  Who knew?

Jacqui.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 04, 2015, 09:10:31 PM
Otto, you know I would love to send plants across the ditch but also know I can't. If there's seed ever again on Gent. depressa, you shall have it of course, likewise the Myosotis. It must set seed, or some of Louise's little cushions must, as she has a new one occasionally. And if the seed on F. monantha matures, yes, that too for you. The flower inside is quite plain and as frits go, it's just another plain green but has a lovely elegance to it and has become a favourite with me, because it seems quite reliable and easy to grow as well as being a bit special and late, so extending the frit season. It may be the same as F. taipaiensis which t00lie had in bloom a couple of weeks ago. His was a bit more marked than mine but the leaves were similar. His and mine both have a whorl of leaves in stacked layers, like F. affinis.

Jacqui, I mis-spelt the file name on 'Bird Dance.' I t should be 'Bird Dancer.' Is is really nice and with the aril blood, has that little bit of the exotic about it. Your Arisaema candidissima is very pale isn't it? Mine is much deeper pink (photo later, they're not even up yet). I was recently given a few small tubers of the pure white form. It will be a couple of years before they flower though.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 04, 2015, 09:16:06 PM
Just two weeks tomorrow until NZIS National Convention starts in Dunedin. So much to do here and the weather isn't helping. Another frost this morning for heaven's sake! Some that should be in bloom then are finished, others barely in bud but the Meconopsis may be a consolation for North Island iris lovers. They are loving my railway bed and are just starting ;D

Otto I'm surprised your Glaucidium doesn't flower, everything else does with you and I'm usually gnashing my teeth in envy. You may be right about the cold, so yes, try some refrigeration - not too much though.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 05, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
Just grabbed a few pots of things in flower in my garden and photographed them;

Allium karataviense grown from seed ex OAGG Seed Exchange

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Celmisia semicordata subsp stricta x C. gracielenta coll Livingstone Mountains

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Dodecatheon pulchellum 'Red Wings' ex Hokonui Alpines (Note spelling of Hokonui)

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Dodecatheon alpinum ex Hokonui Alpines For those interested I learnt last night that there is a species of Dodecatheon (Dodecatheon frigidum) found on Wrangel Island north of Siberia at 71 degrees (along with lots of Polar bears)

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Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 05, 2015, 09:58:57 AM
Continuing; Freesia alba 'Burtonii'
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Iris 'Pacific Coast Hybrids'
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Lewisia cotyledon
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Pseudomuscari forniculatum  syn Bellevalia forniculata
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Ranunculus insignis 'monroi' grown from seed collected Black Birch Range Marlbourough
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Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 05, 2015, 10:02:45 AM
Last but not least Rhodohypoxis baurii, pink form

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Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 05, 2015, 02:24:47 PM
David,

Very sorry to bother you, however I could not help myself commenting on that beautiful Pacific Coast Iris. Did you grow it from seed or is it a clonal variety?

Dodecantheon alpinum is native to the high Sierra Nevada where we live. With all the name changes with plants it is now known as Primula tetrandra.  :P  In this case, I can do without the name change and I think that I will protest and continue to use Dodecantheon.  :o  Shame on me.  Anyway, your specimen looks great. I have tried to grow this species here at the lower elevations with some success in the past, however I do not have one in the garden at this time.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 05, 2015, 08:02:44 PM
Hi Robert,

No need to apologise very happy to answer your question; I grew the Iris from a batch of seed that I got through the Otago Alpine Garden Group Seed Exchange. It is one of three different colours I have flowering at present. I rather like them and see people have breed some spectacular forms. I have only a limited selection of purples, mauves etc.

I was aware the Dodecatheons had been re-classified as Primulas (I have read the papers when this was published). However the USDA plant site still seems to be using the name Dodecatheon so I went with that in my posting. I believe in North America Dodecatheons are snowbank plants flowering shortly after the snow melts
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 06, 2015, 04:49:07 AM
David,

Most of our native California Dodecatheon species are from high altitude and indeed bloom early in the season shortly after the snow melts. We also have a few low elevation species. D. hendersonii grows on our farm property in large drifts (I have been encouraging them to spread here on the farm). This species can also be found in mid-elevation habitats (4,000 - 5,000 feet, 1,219 - 1,524 meters). Generally in higher terrain is where I find the best forms of this species.  D. clevelandii is another low elevation species.

The University of California, Berkeley is generally my source for the latest name changes, at least as far as California flora. I have to admit that it gets frustrating for me at times - Stipa seems to have a name change every few years these days. I certainly can not change the situation, so I guess it is better for me to just go with the flow.  :-\

PCI have been hybridized here in California for many decades. I can definitely appreciate the beautiful varieties originating in the Southern Hemisphere. Some day I would like to explore the southern Sierra Nevada foothills. Maybe there are some true blue forms of Iris munzii still to be found in the wild.

Thank you for the reply and I appreciate all the photographs you and the others in the Southern Hemisphere have been posting.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 06, 2015, 09:29:17 AM
Hey, someone called Lesley from Dunedin asked Prince Charles for a kiss, and he duly obliged. Was that you Lesley? :o
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 06, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
Some nice stuff in your garden, David L.
Here's a couple in ours:
Asphodeline damascena x2
Dwarf Hersperaloe/Beschorneria ex Mexico courtesy of generous forumists
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 08, 2015, 09:56:30 AM
Hey, someone called Lesley from Dunedin asked Prince Charles for a kiss, and he duly obliged. Was that you Lesley? :o

It was NOT!!!
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 08, 2015, 11:55:40 AM
Anthony,
you should know by now that our Lesley has more class than that!
In our garden:
Cistus palhinhae
Conanthera campanulata
Centaurea biokovensis
Banksia petiolaris x 2 - one of the trailing species
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 10, 2015, 08:18:22 AM
Sisyrinchium palmifolium x2
Triteleia cultivar
Triteleia ixioides
Oenothera acaulis

cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 10, 2015, 09:08:18 AM
Thank you Fermi. I coldn't really say so myself but of course you are right! ;D
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 10, 2015, 11:44:04 AM
Gosh you have some lovely things David - the dodecatheons and ranunculus and bellevalia are all so charming.

I find myself wondering where Jamus has got to…

1. This is a lovely jasmine - hardy as all get up. it was out on Sahara (my dry and hostile street reserve) for a couple of years with no water and stayed a beautiful deep green, grew and blossomed. Now it is in a nicer spot i have to trim it regularly. Jasminum multipartitum Southern Stars
2. A blue corydalis
3. A poor quality (sorry) photo of Wahlenbergia stricta, sometimes called the Australian bluebell but in reality a campanula relative. This one seems to be double.
4. And the beautiful campanula persicifolia "Pride of Exmouth", that took years to flower but is now happily spreading through a shady patch under the cherries.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 10, 2015, 12:04:22 PM

I'm lurking here enjoying all of your posts. I've been a bit busy lately with kids and work and general life stuff and haven't taken many pictures lately... Campanula persicifolia is is one I had once but had forgotten about. You're right it is beautiful Jacqui.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 10, 2015, 12:37:21 PM
Here is a small offering to make up for my lack of contributions lately.

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Thalictrum flavum ssp. glaucum


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Digitalis parviflora
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 11, 2015, 04:52:47 AM
Hi Guys,

I have been checking out all the wonderful offerings on this thread and felt inspired to add an eclectic trio.

Iris boissieri - seed from Rafa.

Tulipa sprengeri - the latest and maybe the reddest!

Campanula spatulata - yes it does sound like a kitchen implement.

Cheers, Marcus
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: melager on November 11, 2015, 08:03:13 AM
stunning Marcus, thanks so much for showing us

Mel
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 11, 2015, 08:06:47 AM
Marcus I love Tulipa sprengeri! That's one I think I could grow in my rock garden.

Got home from work before the kids today so took a few quick photos.

1. Linum grndiflorum 'Bright Eyes'
2. Tanacetum ptarmiciflorum
3. Centaurea gymnocarpa
4. Kniphofia somethingorother.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 11, 2015, 09:59:01 AM
Here are two plants that you are unlikely to find in the average garden; Freycinetia banksii (Pandanaceae). I once made the mistake of trying to take a shortcut through a thicket of this on the West Coast - I thought I was going to die in there. The second is Melicytus flexuosus (Violaceae) which must be one of the strangest plants in the New Zealand flora - a mass of tangled interlacing branches and no leaves.

Both plants are flowering and both are male both species being dioecious. The Freycinetia flowers are thought to pollinated by bats so you would require both a male and a female plant + bats to produce seed.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 11, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
Fascinating!
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 11, 2015, 09:39:22 PM
Hi David,

Interesting that Freycintia banksii combines the names of two well known historical figures,  well at least here on the East Coast of Australia. Louis Freycinet and his brother explored the southern and eastern coast of Tasmania and later his brother was instrumental in getting the Baudin expedition to the hitherto  unexplored areas of southern Australia. And Banks, he needs no introduction.

I looked up Freycinetia and found that Australia has more species than NZ, I think you only have the one,  but Tasmania has none.  This is surprising indeed given our similar topography and climate.  I thought our Richeas might be related through the same family,  given that they look very similar and that there is one species called R. pandanifolia, but they belong to the Ericacea family. Nevertheless a good example of convergent evolution.

Cheers, Marcus
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 11, 2015, 10:29:53 PM
Hi Marcus,

Some people consider the NZ flora to be a depauperate version of the Australian flora and it certainly is the case for those species with warm climate/ subtropical affinities.  Freycinetia would fit here as it is largely confined to the North Island and West Coast of the South Island. It is a liane and forms huge tumbling masses in  the forest

The Richeas are related to the Dracophyllums and doubtfully distinct at the generic level. Some of our large Dracophyllums resemble Richea pandanifolia notably Dracophyllum traversii, Dracophyllum fiordense.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 12, 2015, 06:03:22 AM
In flower this morning:
Ixia rouxii whose size is in keeping with the rock garden,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 12, 2015, 08:36:54 AM
 Iris 'Pacific Coast Hybrids currently flowering for the first time.Sown 3 years ago from that years SPCNI seed exchange.....In a number of cases I couldn't be bothered separating the individual seedlings so planted them out as tight clumps.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 12, 2015, 08:44:45 AM
Another Iris however this is an 'oldie '....

The historic Iris 'Zua' 1914.Lovely petals that almost give the impression they are made out of crepe paper.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 12, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
Iris 'Pacific Coast Hybrids currently flowering for the first time.Sown 3 years ago from that years SPCNI seed exchange.....In a number of cases I couldn't be bothered separating the individual seedlings so planted them out as tight clumps.

What a very beautiful selection of PCI. Very impressive from a pack of seeds! I especially like the Picotee.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 12, 2015, 09:40:49 PM
Hi David,

There appears to be some deep ancestoral connections between Tasmania, New Zealand and Chile but I guess being Islands both our respective homes have a high degree of  endemism. Tasmania has two species of dracophyllum, and both are extremely different in habit. D. minimum is a big cushion plant while D. milliganii is the typical form and can reach up to 1.5 metres in wet rainforest.  At that height it is easily confused with Richea pandanifolia. Oh, just to confuse matters more,  one of the nine species of richeas found in Tasmania is called R. dracophyllum!

Cheers,  Marcus
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 13, 2015, 06:36:23 AM
I wonder if the Moa had a hand, er, beak in Melicytus flexuosus evolution?
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 13, 2015, 11:06:07 AM
Hi Anthony, package on the way.

How would the Moa be an evolutionary agent?  Distributor of seed? Eliminator of competitive species? I am intrigued.

Cheers,  Marcus
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 13, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
A few (quite a few) things flowering here at the moment.

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Androsace lanuginosa keeps popping out flowers

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Aquilegia chrysantha is a great plant, floriferous, disease free and long lasting

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Aquilegia vulgaris, this one a lovely inky blue

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I've been waiting two and a half years since sowing the seed of Centaurea atropurpurea, and it was worth the wait! The first of many blooms to come.

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How ye olde cottage garden is this!? Mum would be proud.




Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 13, 2015, 12:20:14 PM

part two

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No flowers yet but Centaurea simplicicaulis is looking right at home in my rock garden

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Delphinium requienii, I have a feeling this name isn't right...?

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Dierama are about to wow us, they've never had so many flower spikes. This one is pulcherimum, there is reynoldsii in there somewhere too I hope.

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Geranium cinereum 'Ballerina'

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Old fashioned smelly peas (Lathyrus).

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 13, 2015, 12:25:00 PM
part four

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Scabiosa stellata, the seed heads are what you grow it for, the flowers are pretty boring

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Symphyandra zanzegur, my first ever flower on this and I'm smitten.

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Thalictrum flavum glaucum

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Grew this Penstemon from seed... no idea what it is.

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I bought this Viola as V. jooi, which it clearly isn't...


Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 13, 2015, 07:41:17 PM
Hi Anthony, package on the way.

How would the Moa be an evolutionary agent?  Distributor of seed? Eliminator of competitive species? I am intrigued.

Cheers,  Marcus

There is a theory that  moa browsing was instrumental in the evolution of the filiramulate, divaricating habit (ie a mass of tangled branches with very few, small leaves) of many New Zealand trees and shrubs. Many New Zealand shrub genera  have members that are divaricating (Coprosma, Pittosporum, Melicytus to name a few examples). On the other hand some species in those genera are normal in form. There are several trees that have a divaricating juvenile stage Pennantia corymbosa , Elaeocarpus hookerianus, Hoheria angustifolia, Sophora microphylla that are divaricating as juvenile and when they grow above the moa browse line they grow as normal leafy trees. The opposing view is that the cold, windy and dry conditions prevailing in southern New Zealand during the Pleistocene glaciations drove this evolution. My own view is that the two theories are not mutually exclusive and so the debate continues.

See Phil Garnock-Jones' very readable and entertaining blog http://theobrominated.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/going-through-motions-what-did-moa-eat.html (http://theobrominated.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/going-through-motions-what-did-moa-eat.html)
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on November 13, 2015, 07:51:58 PM
David, you have improved my vocabulary immensely. Having been got at, by she who must be obeyed, owing to my lack of a haircut in the past weeks I shall ask her if she thinks my current look is both filiramulate and divaricating. I suppose I shall get one of her best shakes of the head and raising of eyebrows.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 13, 2015, 08:22:23 PM
David, you have improved my vocabulary immensely. Having been got at, by she who must be obeyed, owing to my lack of a haircut in the past weeks I shall ask her if she thinks my current look is both filiramulate and divaricating. I suppose I shall get one of her best shakes of the head and raising of eyebrows.

My grandmother would have described such a condition as "being dragged through a gorse bush (Ulex europaeus) backwards"
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 13, 2015, 11:36:38 PM
How fascinating! The vegetation I mean, and I suppose David's hair too. ;D. I think mine could also be described  the same. My locks have developed a very pronounced kink over the past 6 months. Some of you may know that I have skin cancer. One of the treatments knocked out my endocrine function and I am currently on HRT. Apparently artificial testosterone may be the culprit for my unruly and filiramulate hair.

Back to the plants. I looked up this phenomenon and yes it is noted in Flora of NZ. https://books.google.com.au/books?id=iwc8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=filiramulate&source=bl&ots=yFkw6pBe0S&sig=gqfv3gUwJZ_wnhMcjktF9eK7gSo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAWoVChMI0Pyp9qSOyQIV4namCh3YpQI7#v=onepage&q=filiramulate&f=false
Hell, there must have been some predation pressure! Another thing that the author thought came into play was the fact that most new genetic pathways into NZ were blocked so the filiramulate strategy remained the dominant defence.

Cheers, Marcus


Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 13, 2015, 11:48:29 PM
BTW David, thanks for putting me onto Phil Garnock-Jones' blog. It was a great read.

I had the good fortune to have a lecturer who taught botany with the same flair and inventiveness.

Cheers, Marcus
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Eljay88 on November 14, 2015, 06:03:03 AM
David, I love that bellevalia forniculata and I'm on the hunt for one! Are you able to suggest where I could find a bulb, or seed? I have a passion for blue flowers and that one is stunning  :)
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 14, 2015, 08:47:02 AM
What a very beautiful selection of PCI. Very impressive from a pack of seeds! I especially like the Picotee.

Hello Robert -if I remember correctly I purchased 16 packets of seed that year .Here's another one that opened today for the first time from that sowing. I seem to have gone for dark colours ....... ;)

Last seasons seed from the SPCNI seedex was sown as soon as received in march of this year and germinated a few weeks later in autumn and continued to grow through the winter .You can see they are just about ready to be planted out .


Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 14, 2015, 10:02:54 AM
David, I love that bellevalia forniculata and I'm on the hunt for one! Are you able to suggest where I could find a bulb, or seed? I have a passion for blue flowers and that one is stunning  :)

I got the seed several years ago through the OAGG seed exchange - not sure of the original source. I sort of cleaned myself out
of bulbs this year and will need to build up my stock again. I am hopeful I will be able to get some seed this year but seed set is not always reliable. I have also had issues with Bellevalia seed some turned out not to be Bellevalia when it flowered and I appear to have got a very dark Muscari of some description instead. It seems I have a bit of a queue lining up for bulbs when I can produce some more as I have had several requests.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 14, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
My grandmother would have described such a condition as "being dragged through a gorse bush (Ulex europaeus) backwards"
I have what you call fly away hair. It's flown away!  ???
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 14, 2015, 02:02:56 PM
Wow. There is no mistaking that dab hand with a camera Jamus!
Your photos seem to be three-dimensional, always.

Marcus, not too sure about terming your blonde and newly curly hair filimurate.
I do think Goldilocks would be envious.  ;)

Nothing too exotic here, but each with its own charm

1. Thalictrum flavum v glaucum. Snap, jamus.
2. This scabiosa is more of a primrose yellow than the photo allows. It used to yield hundreds of blooms per season - until the possums discovered how delicious it was. Now one must be content with a few.
3. My thornless blackberry has perfect tiny pink blooms
4. Salvia jamensis in the perennial border
5. Clusters of ripening berries hang from the branches of Amelanchier condenses.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 14, 2015, 03:27:59 PM
Hello Robert -if I remember correctly I purchased 16 packets of seed that year .Here's another one that opened today for the first time from that sowing. I seem to have gone for dark colours ....... ;)

Last seasons seed from the SPCNI seedex was sown as soon as received in march of this year and germinated a few weeks later in autumn and continued to grow through the winter .You can see they are just about ready to be planted out .

David,

Are you going to do selective breeding with the PCI or just selection of the best seedlings from the many seedlings you have grown on? (and there are some good ones)

I have made some effort to find some of the older clear blue hybrids based on Iris munzii created here in California. I am not even sure if the clear blue forms of straight I. munzii are still around. Perhaps they are safe and growing well in your part of the world. So far, I have been too busy to make much progress on this project, however exploring the native habitat of I. munzii is high on my list of projects.

Anyway, I am impressed with some of the selections you have made. From the photographs I see, I should not be surprised. horticulture is taken to a new level of excellence in your part of the world.

Thank you (all) for sharing photographs from your gardens. Things are sleepy here with frosty mornings and low snow levels.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 14, 2015, 08:16:37 PM

Beautiful photos Jacqui, I love the berries on your Amelanchier, I had to look it up. Sadbush? Why sad? I don't have space here to grow a lot of interesting shrubs and trees. It will be nice to move to a bigger property some day but the logistics of moving all my precious plants is overwhelming even considered hypothetically. It's be sad to leave my stonework behind too...

 
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 14, 2015, 10:19:34 PM
Bellevalia forniculata - Dr Vlastmil Pilous' list - out every year in late December.

Cheers,  Marcus
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on November 14, 2015, 10:30:19 PM
Jacqui, that's an interesting salvia. Maybe I've been half asleep to perennials.  Did you get it and the scabiosa locally?

BTW  I haven't got Bellevalia  forniculata for sale but I have got the dark blue B. pycnantha and the multi-hued B.dubia.

Cheers,  Marcus
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 14, 2015, 11:09:32 PM
Hi Jamus,

 it's shadbush, rather than sadbush,  but loads of common names. I assumed because it is happy in shade, which it seems to be.

I only have a quarter acre block Jamus, just shockingly over planted. In a few years I may have to cull a few things but at present I just enjoy the crowdedness. My friend phoebe, who is a landscape designer, shakes her head at the folly. So you too can put in all the shrubs you like  :)
And keep your truly wonderful rock work.

Marcus the salvia came from David Glenn and the scabiosa from the boys at antique perennials. The latter self seeds very freely, or did before the unspeakables et all the flower heads, but I may be able to find something for you.  ;)

Jacqui.





Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 15, 2015, 02:27:54 AM
We need Robert or someone else from his part of the world to explain "when the Shad are running" which is went the Amelanchier is in flower (or fruit, I can't remember)! It possibly relates to fish :-\
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 15, 2015, 05:39:47 AM
My current fave flower, Weldenia candida, courtesy of Otto a few years ago,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 15, 2015, 05:57:49 AM
Thanks Fermi, i didn't know that about shad. i'll have to investigate.

i love your C weldenia. I have one too but its only just sticking its nose up now. How are yours so advanced?
What i don't love about it is that when i repot it is like a huge tarantula underground. it looks horrible! Last year was not so bad as it had divided itself in two and both smaller. didn't expect that. Nice to have 2 though...

1. Allium heldreichii - thank you kindly Marcus  :D
2. One of the japanese cultivars of Hydrangea serrata prolifera from Lynn McG. Prettier every year. It grows happily in heavy shade.


Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 15, 2015, 08:21:33 AM

I love your Hydrangea serrata prolifera. What lovely simple blooms. And that Allium is such an intense colour. Beats the pink ones I have flowering at the moment.
I am planting shrubs, quite a few have gone in this year. Shockingly over planted is an apt description of my place too!
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 15, 2015, 08:54:25 AM
David,

Are you going to do selective breeding with the PCI or just selection of the best seedlings from the many seedlings you have grown on? (and there are some good ones)


 exploring the native habitat of I. munzii is high on my list of projects.
Anyway, I am impressed with some of the selections you have made. From the photographs I see, I should not be surprised. horticulture is taken to a new level of excellence in your part of the world.
Thank you (all) for sharing photographs from your gardens. Things are sleepy here with frosty mornings and low snow levels.

Thanks Robert
Yes we grow some plants well ,unfortunately some of the introductions have escaped and become major weeds as has happened elsewhere around the world......
 
Not interested in breeding PCIs at the moment as space is at a premium here so will probably select a small selection of the best seedlings to keep in the garden and give the rest away .......
Can't wait to see the results of you exploring the native habitat of I. munzii .

i love your C weldenia.
What i don't love about it is that when i repot it is like a huge tarantula underground. it looks horrible!.
.

Jacqui at a superficial glance when dividing Weldenias they remind me of Alstromerias (shudder) !  .....of which I've just tried recently to eradicate from a garden plot .Thankfully the Weldenia is far more restrained.   :D
If you are 'put off' by digging them up I've found Weldenias strike easily from side stem cuttings taken in Feb/March ....
Here's a couple of pictures which I've shown before from back in 2010 showing the cuttings and tuberous root forming a few weeks later in autumn .
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 16, 2015, 02:18:14 AM
We need Robert or someone else from his part of the world to explain "when the Shad are running" which is went the Amelanchier is in flower (or fruit, I can't remember)! It possibly relates to fish :-\
cheers
fermi

The Shad run in the American River ( the river draining our watershed) in May. Our local Amelanchier species bloom a bit later in the season, but then the grow at the higher elevations in the Sierra Nevada. No Shad spawning when the Amelanchier are in fruit.  :)
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 16, 2015, 03:38:31 AM

Fermi your Weldenia candida is absolutely beautiful. I can see why its your favourite, it's so pure and simple in its form and colour. I suppose it likes cool, wet woodland conditions?

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 16, 2015, 09:40:08 AM
Fermi your Weldenia candida is absolutely beautiful. I can see why its your favourite, it's so pure and simple in its form and colour. I suppose it likes cool, wet woodland conditions?

Absolutely NOT Jamus. The Weldenia is a native of Mexico and Guatemala (The clone we all have is from Mexico) and is quite hardy even here in the colder parts of the country. Most, if not all in Australia and NZ came from a plant I brought back from the UK in 1991 and it's wonderful that it's spread around now. It likes full sun and good drainage and can stand drought though likes watering when in full growth.

Can't let Fermi steal all the limelight. Here are a couple of pics from a year or two ago. The flowers usually last only for a day, especially if the weather is warm but are replaced for several weeks. One year I removed all the spent flowers and counted them. Over 2000 for the season!
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 16, 2015, 11:25:34 AM

That's really stunning Lesley, thanks for the info and the pics. I'm definitely going to look for that one and give it a try here.

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 16, 2015, 11:29:25 AM
Jamus,
You need to get to Olinda for "The Bunfight" ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 16, 2015, 12:00:23 PM
Yeah one day fermi, not much chance of that any time soon. I'm so busy with work and family that if we do get a weekend away it has to be something for everyone, not just for me, which usually means a trip to kangaroo island to see my Dad. We'll see about next September...
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 17, 2015, 05:39:47 AM
While I didn't get round to repotting this Oxalis last season I remembered to give it a feed. Seems to have worked ...... ;D

Unfortunately some of the flowers are past their best .

Oxalis  'Ione Hecker' .

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 17, 2015, 06:25:51 AM

Magnificent Dave, really impressive. I would love to grow that one, and I know Otto had it but lost it.

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 17, 2015, 09:59:32 AM
Magnificent Dave, really impressive. I would love to grow that one, and I know Otto had it but lost it.

Thanks Jamus
It needs to be released from its pot . Oxalis enneaphylla alba is also in flower here at the moment in a trough so maybe I should plant them together ....
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 17, 2015, 10:18:48 AM
Here's one from Lesleys 'stables' from some many many moons ago when she had her 'Gala Plants' nursery up on the hill near Dunedin.

Lathyrus aureus with its orange pea flowers to a clump of about 60cm in height .... as tough as old boots .
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 17, 2015, 08:18:56 PM
I think it should be L. aurantiacus Dave. Good to see it again.

I have lots of pics to process and post but no time to do them. NZIS Convention starts Friday with (for me) an 11am meeting (expected to end about 5pm!) of National Management Committee. AGM, lectures, visits, meetings etc through until late afternoon Monday. I haven't been to bed before 2am for the last 6 days and am exhausted. Lots of the garden is looking OK but some parts still not, and I hope will be ignored. Irises seem either to have finished or not be out yet. The Meconopsis grandis is good though and other things, especially the lower, rock garden things and the troughs.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Eljay88 on November 17, 2015, 09:34:40 PM
I got the seed several years ago through the OAGG seed exchange - not sure of the original source. I sort of cleaned myself out
of bulbs this year and will need to build up my stock again. I am hopeful I will be able to get some seed this year but seed set is not always reliable. I have also had issues with Bellevalia seed some turned out not to be Bellevalia when it flowered and I appear to have got a very dark Muscari of some description instead. It seems I have a bit of a queue lining up for bulbs when I can produce some more as I have had several requests.


Many thanks for your reply David. I'll keep hoping for one to get to me in the fullness of time 😊
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 17, 2015, 11:04:29 PM
I think it should be L. aurantiacus Dave. Good to see it again.

Thanks Lesley .
Not sure about your name as the RHS have Lathyrus vernus aurantiacus listed as a synonym.(however it doesn't seem to identify what of  ).

The 'Plant List' which i use often doesn't have an entry for either  L. aurantiacus or Lathyrus vernus aurantiacus ?. although L.aureus is listed as accepted.

I'm happy to continue using L.aureus in the meantime. :)

Cheers Dave
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 18, 2015, 01:33:29 AM
Oh well, I'm not bothered. I know vernus as the purple one though there's a pink and white form too. I think at one time it was listed as Orobus too. Past caring at present, to be honest.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 18, 2015, 09:36:23 AM
David thank you for showing the weldenia cuttings. That should prove useful next time I repot. Isn't it interesting that all of them came from Lesley's original plant. Says something about the difficulties in importing plants to Australia and New Zealand and how few people are generous enough to do it.

And thank you Robert for explaining the shad amelanchier connection. Lovely to learn something of the provenance of names.

 :) jacqui
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 18, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
My first Lilium duchartrei opened today and I managed to get this shot before work ahead of the 38°C day we had today. I'm thrilled, it's beautiful thank you Otto.


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Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 18, 2015, 03:33:50 PM
Jamus,

Lilium duchartrei has done very well for me here in the hot part of California. I am sure the blossoms do not last as long with 38 C heat, however this species has been one of the star performers for me.

Anyway, the lily looks fantastic!

Oh, be careful the stems can break easily. I found this out this past spring when I tried to stake one of the stems.  :-[   :'(
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 20, 2015, 06:36:46 AM
Hi Robert,
if you and Jamus do well with Lilium duchartrei then I must try it again!
I got this new plant from Greg Boldiston at Longinomus Plants: Ixia polystachya; it is supposed to be variable but it doesn't match any of the pics on the Pacific Bulb Society site,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Steve Garvie on November 20, 2015, 07:57:25 AM
My first Lilium duchartrei opened today and I managed to get this shot before work ahead of the 38°C day we had today. I'm thrilled, it's beautiful thank you Otto.


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Cracking looking lily nicely captured!!!
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 20, 2015, 10:25:21 AM
Dianthus kuznetzowii, "grown from Rocky Mountain Rare Plants Seed 2006" - still flowering 8 years after initial post in 2007
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=946.msg22931;topicseen#msg22931 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=946.msg22931;topicseen#msg22931)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 20, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
Thanks Steve, I'll take that compliment coming from you, I'm a big fan of your handy work with a camera.

Fermi, I have mine in the area which I run sprinklers on all summer, so I wouldn't necessarily tout its drought tolerance! It came through one summer though so we'll see if it thrives or just survives. Your Ixia polystachya is very elegant. The flowers look quite large, are they?

Robert do you irrigate your Lilium duchartrei? I thought you didn't fuss over your garden and were mean to your plants.


A few from today

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5822/23133427985_466207e3ec_c.jpg)
Centaurea atropurpurea, just opening


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/614/22837605640_26fdbeb173_c.jpg)
Cynara cardunculus reaching for the sky


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/623/22765467509_71b406c95e_c.jpg)
Delphinium requienii


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5756/22765466689_f6d11ea078_c.jpg)
Digitalis parviflora


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5782/22561915287_8c84223f39_c.jpg)
Echinops ritro


Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 20, 2015, 10:53:05 AM

Fermi, that Dianthus has a lovely tight habit and I like the crisp white flowers. I will add it to my wants list for the rock garden.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 20, 2015, 03:57:03 PM

Robert do you irrigate your Lilium duchartrei? I thought you didn't fuss over your garden and were mean to your plants.


Jamus,

Me, mean to my plants?  ;D  What ever gave you that idea? My wife says that I dote over my plants and garden. Sometimes I am not sure what she means - I dote over the plants or that I am a dote (i.e. archaic)? Maybe both. She also says that I am a plant.  :-\

Now to be serious......   ;D

Yes, I do water my Lilium duchartrei, or more like dote over them. I grow them in containers right now as the rodents would eat them if they were planted out in the garden without wire to protect the bulbs (no time for wire right now).

The whole garden is being transformed around here. Maybe this is where I get the reputation of being mean to my plants! I spent over 35 years creating a species Rhododendron garden. The 4 years of drought and water restrictions (even for farmers) has changed my attitude towards the precious Rhododendrons. Many died due to drought / irrigation restrictions / neglect (being mean to them! ) this past summer.

I have to admit that I am using the concepts of Bill Mollison (i.e. Permaculture) to redesign the garden. I may be ready to ditch the irrigation system, but this does not mean that I will not or do not irrigate. The rodents have been chewing on the irrigation pipes during the drought, another good reason to give up on "irrigation systems". Now, I am replanting with many xeric species and have to admit that it is a relief not having to worry about the irrigation system or if the plants will survive if I miss an irrigation cycle or do not irrigate at all.  :)

There is a lot of room here at the farm to indulge in all sorts of xeric gardening - even the use of fire to maintain the health of the plants and ecosystem.

I will keep a few of the Rhododendrons (especially some dwarfs that preform well despite the heat) and grow them where it is easy to irrigate them and dote over them. I want the garden to look great and not be a big mess because I can not dote on the plants as I like to.

Progress is slowly being made. I have a gob of California native annuals planted this fall - with a few South African annuals mixed in too. God willing it will all turn out!  :)
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 20, 2015, 10:31:45 PM
Robert, I'm glad we don't have the problem of rodents digging up and eating bulbs. I had cows the other morning in the garden! Thank goodness they hadn't been in long and were standing there bemused and hadn't taken a bite out of anything. I left the gate open after the kids distracted me (they excel at that). I got up and opened the blinds and let out a shout of NO!   ;D
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 21, 2015, 01:21:59 AM
Jamus,

Any idea how a cow got into your garden?

Here in farm country (sort of now  :(  ) we have had sheep (this past spring, and a real pain  :P ), and horses in the garden, not to mention the wild animals of which there are plenty (I think that I like them better than the domestic animals, except when they damage the plants in the garden  :-\ ). There was much excitement when a Mountain Lion showed up a few years ago. We get Bobcat too, as well as many Raptors that nest in the Gray Pines (Pinus sabiniana) here on the property.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 21, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
Some really lovely pictures appearing last few days. Fermi your Dianthus kuznetzowii is a treasure. And Jamus, such a lovely photo of L duchartrei - a favourite of mine.

A few small offerings from this afternoon.

1. Hydrangea quercifolia copes very well with the heat and dry of Eltham. The (sterile) blooms last a very long time.
2. Tight buds of Eryngium pandanifolium - I would really like to grow the "physic purple" colour way but haven't yet been able to source it
3. The fruit of the small-leafed linden
4. Cornus "Norman Hadden" is an evergreen cross (kousa x capitata) with large creamy bracts that age to pink. It seems to grow rapidly despite the dry climate.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 22, 2015, 12:28:56 AM
4. Cornus "Norman Hadden" is an evergreen cross (kousa x capitata) with large creamy bracts that age to pink. It seems to grow rapidly despite the dry climate.

Yes some really nice photos have been posted recently .

Jacqui you are so lucky to have the room to grow Cornus ,we saw some beauties in bloom while in North Canterbury a few weeks back during the NZ Trillium Weekend.

Here's Chionographis japonica from Japan  ::) 3 flowers this season after a feed last season .

A couple different coloured forms of Iris innominata .

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 23, 2015, 03:54:16 AM
Dave,

I have seen some very good forms of Iris innominata. Yours are some of the most outstanding selections of Iris innominata I have ever seen.

I do not get around much, except into the hills, mountains and other wild places, so maybe this does not mean much. Thank you for sharing such gems. It certainly raises the bar for cultivation here at the farm. Maybe someday I will make it to the coast and some of the outstanding PCI nurseries we have here in California. Honestly, this is not very likely. I much rather check on the wild Iris munzii near Sequoia National Park. This past week I was checking on some colonies of Iris macrosiphon. For me, it beats going to the city!  :)

Thank again for sharing the photographs. Your PCI are outstanding!
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on November 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
a few plants in flower at the moment in my garden: the oncocyclus Irises do not feel at home in my temperate rain forest climate ,so I am grateful for any flowers . Very late in the season this year was I. acutiloba . I kept a few bulbs of the yellow Spanish Iris juncea alive for more than 50 years ,which I believe is getting rare in the wild . It would like nice planted next to the purple / blue I. boissierii that Marcus showed recently .
 Rhododendron campylogynum is one of my favourite dwarf species for the Rockgarden  -part of the rockgarden shown .Jamus  a large plant of the Kalmia angustifolia to come your way ,also a Weldenia  etc. Oxalis adenophylla is a rarity in Australia -not available commercially here , yet listed very cheaply in most bulb lists in England /Europe .
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on November 23, 2015, 10:48:21 PM
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Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on November 23, 2015, 10:53:21 PM
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Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 24, 2015, 12:32:30 AM

Otto, fabulous pictures! Those are the best photos I've seen of your rock garden. Iris acutiloba looks stunning! It's a real credit to you that you grow it and flower it there in the jungle. :) I'm having a nervous breakdown over my oncos at the moment. They are doing strange things, some looking unhealthy and like they want to slide into dormancy while others are doing a second growth spurt. I water them when they look like they want to grow, cautiously. I have half in the ground and half in pots... insurance policy.

My garden is sliding into summer mode now which is why you've been seeing less from me. Spring is too short and summer is very hot and dry here, but we had a good spring and I've enjoyed the garden over the past few months.

Here is I. paradoxa looking healthy and growing in the top of the rock garden.



Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on November 25, 2015, 08:21:04 AM
Dave,

I have seen some very good forms of Iris innominata. Yours are some of the most outstanding selections of Iris innominata I have ever seen.

I do not get around much, except into the hills, mountains and other wild places, so maybe this does not mean much. Thank you for sharing such gems. It certainly raises the bar for cultivation here at the farm. Maybe someday I will make it to the coast and some of the outstanding PCI nurseries we have here in California. Honestly, this is not very likely. I much rather check on the wild Iris munzii near Sequoia National Park. This past week I was checking on some colonies of Iris macrosiphon. For me, it beats going to the city!  :)

Thank again for sharing the photographs. Your PCI are outstanding!

Thank you Robert for your kind remarks.
Please let me know if you would like me to collect some seeds of the PCIs for you.....

The garden here is primarily a spring affair as I'm normally away in the 'hills' most weekends early summer through to autumn locating and photographing native plants ....... so not much time is left to tend to the garden although I have a note in my diary for every 6 weeks to remind me to spend a couple days of catching up with weeding ,cutting back etc etc. Heavy mulching of the garden beds with the freely available native leaf litter certainly helps ......

Iris acutiloba is a beauty Otto.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on November 25, 2015, 09:24:05 AM
Lovely pictures of what must be a very special garden Otto.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on November 25, 2015, 04:39:27 PM
Dave,

I have read something of your adventures in the mountains in the NARGS journals. Your mountains are beautiful and seem very different for the Sierra Nevada here in California. The plants are very different too. I look forward to any postings you might have in the future concerning your beautiful mountains and the plants that grow there. There is so very much for me to learn about.

I could never leave my garden unattended during the summer for any extended time. Most of it would be dead without my attention. Summertime rain must be a blessing.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 27, 2015, 10:17:05 AM
Otto you have the most amazing green fingers!
The cypripediums and dwarf rhododendron and arisaema are beautiful specimens.

Some perennials and lilies to make up for my lack of posts lately.
1. Artemisia lactiflora makes a beautiful backdrop for other plants. The tight buds open to creamy white flowers.
2. Lysimachia yunnanensis is plainer than some of its more elegant cousins but has its charms. The stems redden at some point in the season
3. The modified leaves of Sarracenia leucophylla
4. This is the second year I have grown Lankon lilies, and the colour variation seems more pronounced than last year
5. Many disastrous attempts preceded this beautiful claret martagon  -  something of a long haul to this prize.

Jacqui.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 27, 2015, 10:37:07 AM

Nice photos of nice plants Jacqui. I love your liliums. I need to get some Lankon lilies. I've joined the Lilium & Bulb society here in SA, so I hope to be able to do some trading with the other members once I get to know people.

Here is Arisaema fargesii flowering for the second time for me.

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 27, 2015, 10:50:55 AM
Thank you Jamus, I've had some rather good coaching on the photos  :)

Love the Arisaemas
They are so elegant

I've been a slow learner with liliums, trying to find the sweet spot between rotting them or drying them out.

J.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 27, 2015, 11:00:00 AM
Otto's garden is indeed very special, full of amazing things and so many are long term residents unlike many of mine, for instance, which are relatively recent and still in their infancy. I hope to visit again this coming spring (2016) if I may Otto, that is if (as is possible) I am not again in the Czech Republic and Hungary, Austria, Germany!!!) :P :P :P :P :P

Otto, I have some fresh seed of Sax. grisebachii 'Wisley' if you would like it, just clipped off the stems yesterday. I was surprised how much seed there is.

Should have some pictures to post within a couple of days, from NZIS Convention - not all irises. :)
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 28, 2015, 03:04:39 AM

A very common plant in Australia and one of extraordinary beauty in my opinion, Acanthus mollis.


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5825/23360074015_144af34b3b_b.jpg)


Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 28, 2015, 11:04:30 AM
A very common plant in Australia and one of extraordinary beauty in my opinion, Acanthus mollis.

Planted on a roundabout near us and flowering now.

Lilium grayii, my favourite lily, and Laelia milleri 'Red Light' are flowering in the garden (in pots) now.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on November 28, 2015, 11:17:27 AM
Anthony, your Lilium grayii is wonderful. I can see why it's a favourite. Does it like the same conditions as martagons?

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 29, 2015, 01:26:29 AM
Probably wetter, so keeping it going will be a challenge.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: rob krejzl on November 29, 2015, 03:13:33 AM
L. canadense might be easier to source and keep alive.

Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Parsla on November 30, 2015, 09:29:27 PM
I thought i'd make one last post for the month of November.

Jamus I too love the classical beauty of Acanthus mollis. They grew wild here at one point, relics of an earlier owner. Sadly I made the choice to get rid of them (and, literally, hundreds of the common blue agapanthus) once it became apparent that it was the easiest way of keeping a rapidly proliferating snail population in check.

Not to mention dozens of self seeded cherry plums, pittosporums, willow hakeas, the rampant sydney acacia and others. And persistent weeds like common yellow oxalis (thousands), tradescantia and onion weed. Still fighting robinia runners 7 years on....
On only a quarter of an acre! A tanglewood, at the time.

I found a lovely treasure arriving hime at dusk last night. I had always wondered what this strange non-flowering bulb under the mulberry was. I believe its a hymenocallis harrisiana, related to the peruvian sacred lily. It has short glaucous foliage - so unlike the others i am familiar with.

It is already fading. The first photo was taken last night, the second this morning.

jacqui.
Title: Re: November 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jeffnz on November 30, 2015, 11:08:55 PM
Acanthus mollis spectacular but try getting shot of it once established, will shoot from the smallest of root pieces...
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