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Title: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 17, 2015, 06:05:34 PM
The AGS held an "autumn north" show today in the new venue of the RHS  Harlow Carr garden.
The Best in Show plant at the AGS Show, winning the Farrer Medal, has been pictured here by Lawrence Peet.  8)
- well done Dave Riley who grew  the winning Cyclamen colchicum  which also gained an Award of Merit and a Cultural Commendation from the Joint Rock Committee - that looks like a pretty good hat-trick to me !
 
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Thanks to Lawrence for the picture - more photos will appear on his site Lawrence Peet Alpines (http://lawrencepeetalpines.com/) in due  course.  :)
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 17, 2015, 07:38:08 PM
Dave Riley and his wonderful Farrer Medal winning plant of Cyclamen colchicum.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on October 17, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
Eccles Cake in Betty's Cliff?
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 17, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
No, David … Betty's cake in Eccles.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 17, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
The AGS Show at Harlow Carr, Harrogate today gave the opportunity to stroll around this wonderful autumnal garden ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 17, 2015, 10:00:09 PM
Strolling further ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Dave Hardy on October 17, 2015, 11:38:32 PM
Fantastic photos cliff. Looks like it was a good show.
Dave
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: astragalus on October 18, 2015, 12:22:32 AM
Wonderful photos, Cliff.  I remember Harlow Carr very well (and Betty's Cafe!).
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 18, 2015, 12:49:00 PM
Some more from Harlow Carr and the AGS Show this weekend ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 18, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
And more ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 18, 2015, 12:52:17 PM
And even more ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2015, 12:53:35 PM
My word, the autumn colour is really in full glory at Harlow Carr - beautifully captured, Cliff.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 18, 2015, 12:54:21 PM
Even, even more ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Palustris on October 18, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Not to be outdone. Some of the plants and a wander round the garden.
http://s703.photobucket.com/user/Owdboggy/slideshow/Harlow%20Carr (http://s703.photobucket.com/user/Owdboggy/slideshow/Harlow%20Carr)
We looked at the prices in Betty's and decided we would rather go hungry!
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Graeme on October 18, 2015, 01:13:37 PM
Not to be outdone. Some of the plants and a wander round the garden.
http://s703.photobucket.com/user/Owdboggy/slideshow/Harlow%20Carr (http://s703.photobucket.com/user/Owdboggy/slideshow/Harlow%20Carr)
We looked at the prices in Betty's and decided we would rather go hungry!
can you tell me what picture 12 is? - I have a pot from seed and it seems to have lost the label along the way.........
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
Not to be outdone. Some of the plants and a wander round the garden.
http://s703.photobucket.com/user/Owdboggy/slideshow/Harlow%20Carr (http://s703.photobucket.com/user/Owdboggy/slideshow/Harlow%20Carr)
We looked at the prices in Betty's and decided we would rather go hungry!

What a  great selection of pix, Eric - thank you for sharing the link.  Some really super show plants there and a feel for the gardens as a whole.  Feel I've had a good walk with your and Cliff's pictures!

I got excited about  the flower sculpture on the wall - thought  it was a tribute to the Dryas octopetala - but then I counted the petals .... ah well, never mind! 
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2015, 01:19:15 PM
can you tell me what picture 12 is? - I have a pot from seed and it seems to have lost the label along the way.........

Polyxena longituba?
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Palustris on October 18, 2015, 01:43:03 PM
The first Polxena  in the slide show is labelled P. ensifolia which according to the Plant List is a synonym for Lachenalia ensifolia, as indeed many  other Polyxena are listed as Lachenalia, make of that what you will.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2015, 02:48:51 PM
The first Polxena  in the slide show is labelled P. ensifolia which according to the Plant List is a synonym for Lachenalia ensifolia, as indeed many  other Polyxena are listed as Lachenalia, make of that what you will.
Leaving aside the Polyxena /Lachenalia  point  -
 I think there would be a mistake in naming then, because  P. ensifolia has just a couple of  broad leaves,see this Pacific Bulb Society page : http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Polyxena (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Polyxena)


 And from the AGS site : where P. ensifolia is plant of the month - but the plant resembling the one in the Harlow Show  is named as P. longituba.....   http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/plant-portraits/Polyxena+ensifolia+plant+of+the+month+January+/102/ (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/plant-portraits/Polyxena+ensifolia+plant+of+the+month+January+/102/)
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Palustris on October 18, 2015, 02:57:19 PM
I would not presume to argue, I have never managed to grow any of these, ever.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Graeme on October 18, 2015, 04:32:30 PM
thanks Palustris and Maggie

Yes mine I think is P. ensifolia (but I note the name change)- but I will post a picture when its stopped raining - the pot has a narcissus label in it and I suspect it is a seed from a long lost plant

I need to get the seed collected from last years flowers - they are still on the plant
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on October 18, 2015, 05:12:58 PM
I would not presume to argue, I have never managed to grow any of these, ever.

I find Polyxena longituba very easy. I treat it in exactly the same way as all my Autumn/Spring bulbs, all watered for the first time in mid-September. My example is showing good leaf and will be in flower later next month. Easy from seed too. A nice potful of offset small bulbs will be delivered to Mike Quest tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2015, 05:56:04 PM
I hope Eric will forgive me for showing his photo of the Polyxena from Harlow Carr  here

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Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on October 18, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
I agree with Maggi, the plant that Eric pictured is Polyxena longituba and not, as labeled, P. ensifolia. The example pictured may have been short of a little light but here's mine from last year.

Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2015, 07:29:52 PM
That side shot shows the "long tube" nicely, David. I think it's pretty common to have the leaves that length.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Jon Evans on October 18, 2015, 07:40:18 PM
The plant we now know as Polyxena longituba (or as it should now be - Lachenalia longituba), was distributed around alpine circles for many years as either P. ensifolia or P. corymbosa, so it is no surprise that there are still pots appearing labelled incorrectly.  There was an excellent article by Terry Smale in the Alpine Gardener some ten years or so ago which discussed this naming error.  The true Lachenalia ensifolia is another martyr to autumn / winter wet (as L. maughanii, discussed recently on the AGS forum), whereas L. longituba is a fairly forgiving plant, and easy to grow, but still a great pleasure when a potful is in full flower.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Graeme on October 18, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
thanks Jon - mine will be longituba then as it has had no care whatsoever
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2015, 07:58:06 PM
Autumn/winter wet -spring/ summer wet - we're just martyrs to wet!
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 19, 2015, 07:12:32 AM
Back to the gardens and the show ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 19, 2015, 07:14:07 AM
And more ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 19, 2015, 07:16:11 AM
And some more ..
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 19, 2015, 07:19:59 AM
And finally ...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Tim Ingram on October 19, 2015, 09:30:47 AM
Fantastic photos Cliff - would I be wrong to think that this Show at Harlow Carr is something of a 'springboard' for the AGS again? I liked the little display of gentians from Hartside and the sign above it that Ian Instone showed on the AGS website emphasising 'ALPINES' (even though I and many others grow a whole lot of other plants... especially woodlanders). The only feeling I have is of being rather left out and a bit lonely here down in the south... there isn't that same very strong community of gardeners who grow alpines to show like this but there are those of us who also love growing them in the garden too, which maybe chimes with someone like Helen Johnstone who has joined the AGS recently and has spoken of this on the AGS Discussion pages. It will certainly inspire those of us who want to make the new venue for the Kent Shows a good success! And we are all talking about this here on the SRGC Forum...
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 19, 2015, 09:59:13 AM
Hi Tim, many thanks for the very kind comments about the photos.  I believe that this is a very sensible and appealing new location for an AGS Show, that fits nicely into the remit of attracting new members from already established garden visitors and enthusiasts. The AGS show held recently in a garden centre/nursery in the north-east targeted the same demographic and I am certain that there are enormous garden centres across the land that could be utilised in the same way … venues with huge car parks, available space for show benches, etc., a constant supply of horticulturally aware visitors, restaurants, toilet facilities, lecture possibilities and most with owners more than ready to welcome the influx of alpine fanatics that these excellent shows attract.
Harlow Carr itself is a very beautiful venue, the show hall perhaps less so.  The actual show itself was split between two medium sized rooms on the first floor that proved quite crowded on the day, while the sales tables were on the ground floor and attracted a constant flow of wallet-waving visitors. This generosity of trippers may have been due, in some part, to the glorious sunshine that appeared after lunch and the wonderful display of autumn colour in the gardens.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: Graeme on October 19, 2015, 06:15:49 PM
thanks Palustris and Maggie

Yes mine I think is P. ensifolia (but I note the name change)- but I will post a picture when its stopped raining - the pot has a narcissus label in it and I suspect it is a seed from a long lost plant

I need to get the seed collected from last years flowers - they are still on the plant
could do with an ID  longituba?
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Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ichristie on October 21, 2015, 09:02:48 AM
Hello, I was very fortunate to be able to visit the new show at Harlow and to meet up with so many friends was fantastic we spent a whole day looking around the garden and the show so will post a few pictures from my selection including the plants from Joint Rock meeting, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ichristie on October 21, 2015, 09:04:11 AM
next lot
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ichristie on October 21, 2015, 09:06:34 AM
More
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ichristie on October 21, 2015, 09:10:49 AM
Hello last few with Joint Rock plants
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 21, 2015, 09:18:56 AM
Great to see you this far south, Ian and pleased that we managed to snatch a few minutes to chat during such a hectic but enjoyable day.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: astragalus on October 21, 2015, 12:33:40 PM
Cliff, was the Perezia you showed (planted between two slabs of rock) part of a trough?  The whole thing looked rather large to be in a pot.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ranunculus on October 21, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
Sorry Anne, I should have made that clear … it was a feature plant in the rocks within the new alpine house.
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ichristie on October 21, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Hello Cliff, it sure was good to meet up with you even for a short chat enjoyed the garden and alpine house will post a few pictures, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: AGS show at Harlow Carr - 17th October 2015
Post by: ichristie on October 21, 2015, 07:38:44 PM
A few more the last picture is a competition to see how many rockers or off their rockers can fit in a small greenhouse cheers Ian
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