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Title: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 14, 2008, 07:57:20 PM
It was a beautiful day yesterday and it was also Wednesday, and what do the Nicholson's do on a Wednesday? It's day out day. This time we visited Pine Lodge Gardens on the outskirts of St. Austell in Cornwall, about 1 hours drive from home. The Garden is about 20 minutes drive from The Eden Project.

We had not been to this garden before but we shall certainly go again. It covers about 32 acres is, privately owned, and is open every day apart from three days over the Christmas period. It has an excellent tea shop with plenty of CAKES. See www.pine-lodge.co.uk

The garden has a pinetum, wooded areas, general planting areas, a lake, and my favourite, a winter garden. The winter garden was started in 2005 and includes winter flowering shrubs under planted with huge drifts of Crocuses and Iris reticulata forms. It also has a nursery with a good selection of home grown plants. I was able to buy Maureen a Valentine's Day Gift (I remembered did you?) of a lovely Helleborus x ericsmithii.

A few pictures.

The first six some general views the last two of which show part of the Winter Garden with, in the last one, a flower smelling the flowers! The seventh is iris unguicularis-why can't I get mine to flower like that? The eighth Helleborus Dave's Star-I had to take that! Then one for the Snowies followed by Cyclamen cyprium.
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 14, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
A few more from Pine Lodge Gardens. Camellias were in full flower all through the Gardens and the first four shots show the variety in colour and flower form; followed by three Conifer shots because I like the shapes they make, and finally a couple of shots of Black Swans on the lake.

Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on February 14, 2008, 08:41:07 PM
The Davidsons visit very nice places each Wednesday. Great photographs, David, obviously a nice place to visit.

Paddy
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: mark smyth on February 14, 2008, 09:43:56 PM
David the AGS Ulster Group visited there a few years ago and many other gardens in Cornwall
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 14, 2008, 10:36:12 PM
David it is interesting to see it in the winter, last time we were there was in August 2006 and it was simply wonderful, do go again.
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: ashley on February 15, 2008, 08:29:59 AM
Then one for the Snowies followed by Cyclamen cyprium.
Nice pictures David. 
Iris unguicularis here started last July (due to the warm dry spring followed by cool wet summer?) but finished in December. 
That cyclamen is coum.
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 15, 2008, 09:07:45 AM
Good pictures David! Curious where you take us next Wednesday?
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: andré B on February 15, 2008, 12:03:38 PM
Pine Lodge is a nice garden which we always visit when in Cornwall. Thanks David for showing those pics. I remember when visiting asking the lady owner of the garden about Daphne bholua, which is a rare and difficult plant in the Netherlands, and how it performed as I knew she had several but I had not been able to find it, going round the garden. She took me to it to show and the reason I had missed it was that i had been looking down for it. As it was an enormous plant of several meters high I had missed it because i should have been looking up. In their nursery i bought a seedling from that plant which is now over 2 meters high here and flowering: anice reminder of their beautiful garden!
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 15, 2008, 03:57:23 PM
Andre,I'm pleased the pictures brought back memories. If it is any consolation I didn't see Daphne bholua either!


Luit, next Wednesday may have to be shopping it seems shoes are needed. We have been married for 37 years and by far the greater proportion of those years have been spent in shoe shops! ;D

Ashley, my Iris unguicularis hasn't flowered at all :( Thanks for correcting the Cyclamen coum I should have known, but once again I believed what it said on the label!

Brian, we were so impressed with the garden that we bought a 'Friends of' ticket and we can now go as many times as we like.


Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: ashley on February 15, 2008, 04:47:38 PM
David,

Well when I say my unguicularis flowered July-December, much of the time it was pretty sporadic (enough to keep the slugs from developing habits)  ;D
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 15, 2008, 10:03:21 PM
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Luit, next Wednesday may have to be shopping it seems shoes are needed. We have been married for 37 years and by far the greater proportion of those years have been spent in shoe shops!

So David, if you both needed so many shoes during these years, you both must be very fit people!
Or did you collect them before you collected plants?  8)  8)  ;D
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: mark smyth on February 15, 2008, 10:59:20 PM
sorry wrong thread -over excited!
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 16, 2008, 10:04:17 AM
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Luit, next Wednesday may have to be shopping it seems shoes are needed. We have been married for 37 years and by far the greater proportion of those years have been spent in shoe shops!

So David, if you both needed so many shoes during these years, you both must be very fit people!
Or did you collect them before you collected plants?  8)  8)  ;D

Luit, we didn't BOTH need shoes, only one us, and the 'one' wasn't me!! ::)
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 16, 2008, 10:41:42 AM

Luit, we didn't BOTH need shoes, only one us, and the 'one' wasn't me!! ::)

Well David, she'll be the fittest of you two?  :-[  :-[
But okay, I understand your problem, maybe not with shoes but..... after 42 years.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 16, 2008, 05:34:03 PM

Luit, we didn't BOTH need shoes, only one us, and the 'one' wasn't me!! ::)

Well David, she'll be the fittest of you two?  :-[  :-[
But okay, I understand your problem, maybe not with shoes but..... after 42 years.  ::) ::) ::)

At 42 years Luit, do you get a medal as a long service award ;D
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 17, 2008, 08:21:35 AM
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At 42 years Luit, do you get a medal as a long service award

David, figurants do seldom get medals.   :( :(
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 17, 2008, 07:40:59 PM
A cold but sunny day today with clear blue skies. Much too nice to stay in and watch the football on the box and we decided to pay our first visit of the year to Killerton House. Killerton is a National Trust property, lying between Exeter and Cullompton, and was formerly the home of one of Devon's old families, the Acklands (I think the Ackland family had Sir Francis Drake amongst their forebears but I can't find my reference book to check this out, so I could be wrong!). The House still stands and at present houses a collection of costumes from various ages.

In around 1771 Sir Thomas Ackland appointed a young Scottish (these Scots get everywhere!) gardener called John Veitch to lay out his grounds for him. He made a very creditable job of it and the grounds have not changed a great deal from those times and trees said to have been part of the original planting are still to be seen. John Veitch went on to greater things and founded a nurseries in Exeter and Chelsea in London, and funded, and most likely profited greatly, from early plant hunting expeditions all over the world. His successors played a part in setting up the Royal Horticultural Society and the Chelsea Flower Show. It was in Veitches nursery in 1856 that the worlds first hybrid orchid was developed in 1856.

The grounds are set on a hillside but the peacefulness of them is somewhat spoiled today by the incessant hum of traffic on the M5 motorway about a mile away. They are well wooded but well laid out with modern, but not intrusive pathways, allowing access by golf style buggies for the elderly and disabled.

Here are a few pictures.





Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 17, 2008, 07:42:57 PM
Final batch from Killerton House.

Later edit: sorry the first picture is a bit on the big side when 'clicked' I forgot to re-size it.

Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2008, 07:46:54 PM
Oh, my word, how lovely! Hard to believe those camellias, rhodos and that magnificent magnolia out already down there. But, what's the best, sit up and take REAL notice picture, for me.... THOSE CYCLAMEN! WOW!! WOW!! Just the most sumptuous display. I could do serious mischief to have that on my property! FAB!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 17, 2008, 08:01:05 PM
Beautiful aren't they? They were full of Bumble Bees doing their stuff and from the edge of the ring of flowering plants for a further 8/10 meters there were loads of seedlings. In a few years time it will really look great.
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: ashley on February 17, 2008, 08:07:47 PM
Magnificent cyclamen carpet David.
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: mark smyth on February 17, 2008, 08:55:54 PM
... and mentioning bees, the first queen of 2008 was in my garden yesterday
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 17, 2008, 10:20:56 PM
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In a few years time it will really look great.

David, it looks GREAT already for me! It's really WOW, WOW.!
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 18, 2008, 08:30:34 AM
Stunning pictures David - what an amazing garden !
Thanks a million for sharing it !  :D
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 18, 2008, 09:53:52 AM
What a treat David, Killerton has evaded us in the past, I can see that next time it is a visit in the Spring.  I just love those cyclamen drifts ... and of course the snowdrops ;D
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: SueG on February 18, 2008, 01:13:07 PM
Great pictures David, those cyclamen are amazing.
Sue
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: Gerdk on February 18, 2008, 06:20:24 PM
Here are some pics made today at the Botanical Garden of Wuppertal
Inside the greenhouse
Iris lazica, Arum creticum, Camellia japonica, Canarina canariensis, Cyclamen persicum
and in the garden
Cyclamen coum, Helleborus orientalis, Galanthus spec. ?, Crocus + Elisentower

Gerd
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens in 2008
Post by: Gerdk on February 18, 2008, 06:30:53 PM
The next ones
The crocus lawn, the terrace, the Elisentower and views from the tower

This tower was a windmill first and 1838 it became a look-out tower within the garden,
a school garden at that time.

Gerd
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens february 2008
Post by: Gerdk on February 18, 2008, 06:37:05 PM
This is the rest

the bay of the villa inside the garden and two visitors in the sunshine.

Gerd
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens february 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 18, 2008, 06:52:49 PM
It looks to be a lovely garden Gerd and the two of you looked very comfortable.
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens february 2008
Post by: Gerdk on February 18, 2008, 07:02:07 PM
David,
I am neither the larger gentleman nor the smaller one. I don't know them - only asked the larger one if he agree for making a pic of both.
Gerd
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens february 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on February 18, 2008, 07:26:54 PM
Sorry Gerd, I meant the larger gentleman. I saw the beard and I saw the glasses, I added 2 and 2 and the answer was 5! ;D
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: ashley on March 14, 2008, 03:11:15 PM
[I'll tack this on here rather than starting a new thread.]

Can anyone recommend gardens etc. to visit in/near Amsterdam over Easter?
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on March 14, 2008, 03:14:21 PM
[I'll tack this on here rather than starting a new thread.]

Can anyone recommend gardens etc. to visit in/near Amsterdam over Easter?

I'm sure Luit will have some ideas for you Ashley, but one to start you off here

http://www.keukenhof.nl/nm/english.html
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: ashley on March 14, 2008, 03:21:00 PM
Thanks David - very tempting.  I'll have to negotiate though ...  ;D
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 14, 2008, 04:25:48 PM
Ashley,
You will find a real and quite big, interesting rock garden at the "Uithof", the botanic gardens of the Utrecht university.  ;)
(more negotiating to do....  ;D)

Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on March 14, 2008, 06:50:24 PM

I'm sure Luit will have some ideas for you Ashley, but one to start you off here

http://www.keukenhof.nl/nm/english.html

It depends much in which area you are, but Keukenhof is just opened then and will be interesting to see but I think a month later would be much better.
De Uithof, Utrecht is a must for rockgardeners.
What would you like to see and how much time do you have?
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: ashley on March 15, 2008, 10:04:26 AM
What would you like to see and how much time do you have?

Thanks Luc and Luit for your suggestions.  Unfortunately we have only three days so realistically I can't expect more than a few hours for green things!  My main interest would be bulbs, and as close to Amsterdam as possible.  Hortus Botanica?
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on March 15, 2008, 12:14:36 PM
What would you like to see and how much time do you have?

Thanks Luc and Luit for your suggestions.  Unfortunately we have only three days so realistically I can't expect more than a few hours for green things!  My main interest would be bulbs, and as close to Amsterdam as possible.  Hortus Botanica?

Ashley, that is rather short. Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam has not many bulbs, I think.
The other H. Bot. of the Free University is closed in weekends.
You could consider to visit the Connoisseur Collection with me.
It's about half an hour driving from Amsterdam and on Sunday afternoon I could spare some time.
You even could consider dropping your companied people at the beach of Noordwijk nereby.. ;D ;D   8)
Send me a PM if you might consider this as a possibility.
Title: Re: Visits to Gardens February 2008
Post by: Paul T on March 16, 2008, 10:34:12 AM
David and Gerd,

Thanks to both of you for the lovely pics.  I'm blown away as always by those mass planted lawns.  Would love to view something like that in person as the scale is just amazing.  You guys are seeeing Camellias in flower up there as my first sasanqua camellia is opening it's first flowers for this autumn down here.  A bit early, but nice none-the-less.

Great pics, and thanks again for sharing your visits with us.  :D
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