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General Subjects => Travel / Places to Visit => Topic started by: Vincent on August 05, 2015, 06:23:45 PM
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Hello everybody!
This is my first post on this forum, but I have spent a lot of time scrolling through these pages, mainly admiring beautiful grown plants and reading helpful explanations of how it is done. Many thanks for that!
I would like to share some pictures I took this summer while walking through some parts of the mountains mentioned in the title. The main aim was to see as many alpine plants as possible - and I did see many of those I was hoping to see. And those I didn't see give me one more reason to come back to these areas another time.
Jasione cavanillesii
Lithodora diffusa
Linaria alpina subsp. filicaulis (2)
Matthiola perennis
Narcissus asturiensis
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The pictures in the last post and in this post have been taken in the picos de europa. Not sure about the hieracium...
Aquilegia pyrenaica subsp. discolor
Jurinea humilis
Scilla verna
Erodium glandulosum
Hieracium mixtum
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hrrrm. I'm trying hard to ulpoad more pictures in exactly the same way I've done before but it didn't work four times in a row. I just end up on the 'start a new topic' page, instead of the forum page after a sucessfull post. Can anybody help me out?
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Hello Vincent- lovely pictures from the Picos.
Wearing my "moderator's hat" I have made a slight change to your profile so you should now be returned to the topic after you make a post. Hope that will help.
I'm also going to modify the posts you have already made to show the names of the photo files - that way the search engine can find the photos. :)
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Hello Vincent,
how lovely to see your pictures, we are just back from that area as well and I can't wait to get back there. According to Margaret and Henry Taylor's book the Hieracium mixtum that name is correct. I have grown it for many years calling it Crepis sp. having no idea what it's name was. It was good to get it identified.
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Hello Vincent, I'm delighted to see Narcissus asturiensis. I wonder is that one the "Mum" or Dad" of my new (and first) tiny baby, grown from seed collected in the Picos de Europa and in flower now?
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Most enjoyable Vincent, brought back memories of 1999.
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I'm trying again :)
Androsace villosa
Jasione cavanillesii
Anemone pavoniana or is it A. baldensis now?
Campanula arvatica
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Here are some more:
Linum suffroticosum subsp. salsoloides
Euphorbia chamaebuxus
Narcissus asturiensis
Lithodora diffusa
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Echium asturiensis?
Dactylorhiza maculata
Centaurea sp.
I forgot the name of the last plant and I can't look it up now because I gave back the picos book I had. It's an endemic of cantabria belonging to the brassicacea.
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One more Jasione cavanillesii ::)
Dianthus sp. growing near the puerto de san glorio
Sedum sp.
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On to the west pyrenees, above Gourette in the Valee d'Ossau.
Campanula cochleariifolia
Anemone narcissiflora
Aquilegia pyrenaica
Aster alpinus
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Ranunculus pyrenaeus
Primula integrifolia
Meconopsis cambrica
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Ranunculus parnassifolius
phlegmatic sheep
Veronica nummularia
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Next up - Gavarnie in the zentral pyrenees.
Phyteuma hemisphaericum?
Leucanthemopsis alpina
Armeria maritima subsp. alpina?
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Lilium martagon
Rhododendron ferrugineum
Helianthemum sp.
Iris latifolia
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Androsace ciliata
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Happy days :)
Primula integrifolia
Geranium cinereum
a beautiful Epipactis atrorubens, but it was late so the photo is not really good.
Iris latifolia
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The Cirque de Gavarnie
Aquilegia pyrenaica
Hutchinsia alpina?
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Silene acaulis
Iris latifolia
Saxifraga iratiana subsp. pubescens?
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Benasque
Adonis pyrenaica - I only saw a few of these in flower, most were long over.
Arenaria purpurascens - the ones here had much bigger flowers then the ones in the picos.
Myosotis alpestris?
Gentiana alpina
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Leucanthemopsis alpina
Gentiana alpina
Saxifraga aquatica
Rhodiola rosea
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Aconitum napellus
Swertia perennis
Sedum villosum
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On to the french alps.
Allium narcissiflorum
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Campanula cenisia
Saxifraga x kochii
Androsace alpina
Gentiana brachyphylla?
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Ranunculus glacialis
Cerastium pedunculatum? alpinum?
Erigeron sp.
Primula farinosa
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Petrocallis pyrenaica
Sempervivum sp.
Campanula cenisia
Gentianella campestris?
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Ranunculus glacialis
Saxifraga stellaris
Saxifraga oppositifolia
Gentiana brachyphylla?
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Linaria alpina
Ranunculus glacialis
Nigritella nigra
Senecio?
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The Cirque de Gavarnie
Aquilegia pyrenaica
can anybody tell me the name of this plant?
Wonderful plants! Great to see nice, fresh bloom!
Could the unknown one in this set be a white-flowered Petrocallis pyrenaica? Clearly a Brassicaceae, anyway.
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The Cirque de Gavarnie
Aquilegia pyrenaica
can anybody tell me the name of this plant?
Wonderful plants! Great to see nice, fresh bloom!
Could the unknown one in this set be a white-flowered Petrocallis pyrenaica? Clearly a Brassicaceae, anyway.
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Androsace alpina
Viola cenisia
Ranunculus glacialis
Viola cenisia
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Campanula barbata
Draba sp.
Geum reptans
a furry fella on a Pheyteuma globulariifolium
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Saxifraga oppositifolia
Androsace alpina
Saxifraga cespitosa?
Ranunculus glacialis
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Androsace ciliata
Magnificent - far better than those I saw many years ago. Where in the Pyrenees did you see them?
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My word, Vincent!! What a remarkable set of photos - you have been enjoying a very flower-filed summer and it is a pleasure to see them. Thank you so much for sharing them with the Forum. 8)
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Cracking set of images, many thanks for posting them.
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Thank you all for the kind words! I did have a wonderful summer :)
If anybody could help me out with any of the missing names I would be very happy..
@tonyg I followed the advice of Jim Jermyn, who wrote that Androsace ciliata is growing not too far above the cliffs that make up the Cirque de Gavarnie - and there they were. I walked up to a peak - I don't remember the name - that reached an altitude of 3144m and following the path from there I saw many Androsace ciliata. From about 3100 to 2900 they were quite abundant, but many already over.
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Nice photos. I think was quite early (june ?) since all was over at end of July in the Alps
IMGP5476.jpg is Saxifraga aquatica
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a furry fella on a Pheyteuma sp.
This one (Phyteuma) is globulariifolium.
I think it's the same species in Pyrenees (IMGP3952.jpg) . P. haemisphaericum has longer and thiner leaves (at least, the ones I saw this year in massif Central)
IMGP5365.jpg : the blue is light but there's only one gentiana species with such short leaves in Pyrenees : Gentiana alpina
IMGP5949.jpg and IMGP6515.jpg : Gentiana verna group. I think that it will be hard to know the exact species whithout a close up of the flower, the stem and the leaves (and I'm not enough qualify to determine those species even with these close-ups). 4 species of this group can be found in French Alps : G. verna, brachyphylla, schleicheri and orbicularis (plus G. bavarica, and rostanii)
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Leucanthemopsis alpina
Gentiana alpina
I don't know what this is
Rhodiola rosea
Fabulous photos Vincent, puts my efforts to shame.
I'm thinking the 3rd one may be Saxifraga aquatica?
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Saxifraga biflora?
Gentiana brachyphylla?
Saxifraga is very pale and an unusually dense cushion for S. biflora. This and the foliage which is not as tight as S. oppositifolia suggest it might be Saxifraga x kochii, the hybrid between the above two species.
I think you are correct about the gentian - one flower top right appears to show the very narrow, apparently un-winged calyx.
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Thank you for the Id's Yvain, Tony and Tristan!
@ Karaba I started my trip in the middle of june and came back home at the beginning of august, meaning two weeks in the picos, three weeks in the pyrenees and one week in the french alps. Even in the beginning of my trip in the picos some plants were already over that would normally flower at that time, I think this year everything was very early. But nonetheless many things were still at their peak!
@ TonyG Funny that I took a photo of the hybrid without knowing. There were so many different looking plants and I thought they were all biflora...
@ Lesley Lovely narcissus you got there, I like them very much. Can you confirm that it needs acidic soil? I'm just a little surprised having found it in a calcareous area. But maybe the top layer is of a different ph? Same thing with Lithodora diffusa which apparently needs acidic conditions but seems to thrive in calcareous rock crevices, as my photo proves :)
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Some more pictures.
Campanula scheuchzeri i would assume, but please prove me wrong! Photographed on the Col De L'Iseran in the french alps. They were very lovely here and much nicer than all the other rotundifolia/scheuchzeri plants I had seen in the picos and the pyrenees - with their giant flowers on short stems they covered big scree areas in a deep blue. Very difficult to photograph, because of the wind!
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Very nice pictures indeed! And very nice plants too ;)
Did you get suggestions for the last 2 of reply #33?
Look like Sax. cespitosa
and Ranunculus glacialis.
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Ranunculus glacialis - I really love this plant and I took hundreds of pictures of it, getting a faster heartbeat every time I found another outstanding specimen in between thousands of mediocre plants (a little exaggerated, since many are very beautiful). It seems to be this case with most of the white flowered alpine ranunculus, many plants having small flowers and only one flower stem, e.g. R. parnassifolius, R. pyrenaeus and R. alpestris, and the best plants always to be found were there is enough moisture in the soil. Which makes me think, would the smaller flowered plants produce bigger flowers if they had more water available? Or are they just very variable? Or do the flowers get bigger as the plants get more mature over the years?
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@ Hoy Thank you for helping out! It's definately Ranunculus glacialis in that post, how sure are you about Saxifraga cespitosa? From the results on google it seems about right for half the pictures, is this species very variable? The cushions of these plants were very tight and compact. Growing in the french alps.
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Saxifraga oppositifolia
Geum reptans
Campanula cenisia
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Saxifraga biflora? Second try :)
Photo 2 and 3 - Saxifraga cespitosa? Or two different species? Second picture shows the dense cushion of the one already posted in reply #33
Arenaria sp.
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Hi Vincent!
Fantastic flowering and very nice pictures! When in spring were you there? I would very much like to travel to these beautiful mountain areas myself :)
Marit
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Vincent, I am not sure - but Saxifraga cespitosa (or caespitosa) is variable.
Some forms I have seen.
The "yellow" forms are sometimes called var aurea or just S. aurea.
(From Svalbard)
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Saxifraga caesia
Salix sp. - this was the hairy variant, most plants had plain leaves.
Silene acaulis subsp. longiscapa
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Hi Marit,
I started in late june and came home at the beginning of august. I like the pictures on your blog, very nice!
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Hoy,
didn't even realize I was writing it in a different way, didn't mean to correct you :) The ones you photographed look very nice!
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Hello Vincent, and thank you :)
I thought it was much earlier in the year. If we are planning a trip we may contact you and ask for travel advice ?!
Marit
Hi Marit,
I started in late june and came home at the beginning of august. I like the pictures on your blog, very nice!
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Androsace obtusifolia
I did not find many of the androsace's I wanted to see - A. carnea subsp. laggeri, A. pyrenaica, A. cylindrica, all in the pyrenees - but I did get to see A. ciliata there, and A. obtusifolia and A. alpina in the french alps, both unexpected. The last two are both easy to overlook, but nonetheless very lovely! I only found very few bigger plants of A. alpina, most were in fact tiny.
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Androsace alpina & Saxifraga sp.
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Senecio incanus?
Viola cenisia
Myosotis alpestris?
Leucanthemopsis alpina
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Phyteuma globulariifolium
Erigeron sp.
Lychnis alpina
Linaria alpina & Ranunculus glacialis
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Wonderful photos of the mountain plants. Thanks!
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Marit,
I'll be more than happy to let you know the places I visited. I can also recommend "Alpine Plants Of Europe - A Gardener's Guide" by Jim Jermyn. I visited many of the places he writes about in this book, and plan to visit more in the future :)
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Thank you Maggi!
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@ TonyG Funny that I took a photo of the hybrid without knowing. There were so many different looking plants and I thought they were all biflora...
Above Saas Fee I found a large swarm of the hybrids, so many variations, some very attractive forms. Both parents grew in the general area but the vast majority of plants in one area were the hybrid. I have labelled the pics. My understanding is that Sax biflora has larger, fleshy leaves, quite distinct from tight cushions of Sax oppositifolia and that the flowers are predominantly wine red. I suspect many of the plants you saw were hybrids .... but there are more expert Saxifraga enthusiasts than I :)
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Reply #32 : Draba aizoides
Reply #43 : flower bud are pendulous so, yes, it should be Campanula scheuchzeri
Reply #48 : Saxifraga biflora, and for me, same species as Reply #24 : petals are narrow and don't touch each other, leaves are wide specially on the flower stem. Colour is very variable, Flora gallica say about the colour : from white (most common in France) to wine red. about x kochi, Flora gallica says that " it is localised with only very few plants where both parent species grow together. It is not the same situation as in oriental Alps where it is nearly a stabilized hybrid ". You can find more pictures of this two species on this french website : http://www.florealpes.com (http://www.florealpes.com) and http://photoflora.free.fr/ (http://photoflora.free.fr/)
Reply #51 : Salix reticulata
Reply #57 : Yes, Jacobaea incana ssp incana. Indeed, should be Myosotis alpestris
Reply #58 : maybe Erigeron alpinus : there is a circle of different flowers juste inside the ligulate flowers and the plant have not long hairs.