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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: johnstephen29 on May 27, 2015, 09:57:51 PM
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I have recently acquired some bulbs of species Nerine, I already had N. Bowdenii and N. Undulata. I have managed to get a bulb of N. Bowdenii Alba, a few small bulbils of N.masoniorum from the seed exchange as well as a larger bulb and one each of N. angustifolia, N. Falcata, N. filifolia, N. gracilis, N. krigei and N. sarniensis. The bowdenii alba and sarniensis are good size bulbs, but the others are tiny, about the size of galanthus bulb, the foliage is grass like. hopfully I can get them to flower later in the year.
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Nice selection of sp John,
i find filifolia easy and floweres every year once established, even from offsets, however. nerine falcata is one of the slowest growing bulbs i have ever had, with nerine huttonniae,
hopefully they will eventually bloom with you.
do you also grow nerine zeal giant?
Pontus
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Speaking of Nerines, Nerine bowdenii 'Pink Surprise' bulbs survived our wretched winter here and surfaced a few weeks ago. N. bowdenii ssp. wellsii just poked through about a week ago. All are near the house foundation but 3 years ago we had the basement insulated with foam so we assumed we could very well lose the lot. The PS flowers in November which is dicey here so hopefully the ssp. wellsii will do as promised and flower much earlier; we may well have to water to kick start them.
johnw
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Hi Pontus thanks, I have never heard of N.zeal giant, is it a variety of a species? Goodluck with your nerine said john, I hope they do ok for you.
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Nerines are a great genus to get into, John, especially if you can spare the room in the glasshouse!
The season should be over down here but a stray dwarf one in the garden has produced a bloom.
We got this originally as Nerine filifolia but the leaf isn'y fine enough!
cheers
fermi
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Hi Pontus thanks, I have never heard of N.zeal giant, is it a variety of a species? Goodluck with your nerine said john, I hope they do ok for you.
John,
http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/not-only-pink-part-4-nerine-hybrids.html (http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/not-only-pink-part-4-nerine-hybrids.html)
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It's a great looking plant all the same fermi, have you tried looking on eBay for n. Filifolia I got these plants from a seller in Bulgaria for a good price? Can you bring bulbs into your country?
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Thanks for the link david it looks a great plant
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It's a great looking plant all the same fermi, have you tried looking on eBay for n. Filifolia I got these plants from a seller in Bulgaria for a good price? Can you bring bulbs into your country?
Hi John,
I got the true Nerine filifolia from a friend recently.
Importing bulbs from outside Australia is extremely expensive and time consuming so not something many individuals undertake.
cheers
fermi
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Nerines are a great genus to get into, John, especially if you can spare the room in the glasshouse!
The season should be over down here but a stray dwarf one in the garden has produced a bloom.
We got this originally as Nerine filifolia but the leaf isn'y fine enough!
cheers
fermi
Fermi,
It does not appear as if you are growing your Nerines in a glasshouse. In general, how cold hardy are they for you? I know that it can vary as per species and variety. You are right, something worth getting into! :) especially here in the milder parts of California.
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Hi Robert,
In much of Southern Australia nerines can be grown outdoors but in areas like ours where we can get "severe" frosts (well, severe for us!) down to -7 oC the foliage will be damaged and next year's flowering will be affected. Some species such as Nerine rosea, N. flexuosa alba, N. fothergila "Major" don't need protection but a lot of the N. sarniensis hybrids get "burnt" by frost so I keep some in the shadehouse,
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I appreciate the good information. Our low temperatures here at the farm are very similar to yours, except I think we are a bit colder (we get -7c every winter). Providing protection with row cover and plastic when necessary seems like it might work well for us. Then we have our small garden in the Central Valley where temperatures are much more mild (we have avocados and citrus). Nerines seem like a winner down there!
Thanks!
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The season should be over down here but a stray dwarf one in the garden has produced a bloom.
I did forget that we do have a couple of winter flowering varieties in our garden!
This one is supposedly Nerine crispa but I think that has been subsumed into Nerine undulata ???
Not the best pic as I keep this one in the shadehouse - and the first flowers are already fading,
cheers
fermi
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Hi fermi its N. Undulate crispa if my memory serves me right, great looking nerine. It does well for you by the look of your pic.
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Thanks, John,
it looks better when it can be grown in the open!
We visited a friend in Macedon which has a milder climate despite sometimes getting snow!
She has a lot of nerines still in flower so here's
Nerine undulata "crispa",
what is possibly N. flexuosa/undulata
N. flexuosa "alba" x 2
a N. sarniensis hybrid
cheers
fermi
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Here's a few more of Cathy's nerines:
the pale pink form of Nerine bowdenii called "Manina (or Meninya) Forest" x2
another hybrid,
cheers
fermi
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Great plants fermi
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Nerine huttonniae flowering now, from the summer rainfall area of SA.
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Great looking nerine Ralph
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My very first season of Nerine sarniensis. I'm in love with them...
1. 'Orange Mini' (5056)
2. 'Sveva Pio' (5174)
3. 5470
4. 'Tugela' (5518)
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Very nice!
Nerine filamentosa, always reliable at this time of year. And Nerine humilis var. breachiae (if that's a valid name), a much shorter plant.
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Nerine 'Zeal Giant' and Nerine bowdenii 'Robert Smith'. Not sure if I can see any difference. Also Nerine 'Zeal Silver Stripe'.
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A general view of a recently replanted area; Nerines, x Amarine, and other things.
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A contrast in sizes: x Amarine tubergenii (in front) and Nerine humilis var. breachiae.
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A general view of a recently replanted area; Nerines, x Amarine, and other things.
I like that, Ralph.
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The Nerines seem late this year though Miss Frances Clark went over a couple of weeks ago. Nerine 'Cherry Ripe' is just out, the colour despite the pic is indeed a smokey maraschino cherry. To follow 'Solent Swan', 'Mother of Pearl' and many under Smithers number only.
Have an idea that this past very warm summer may throw flowering off for next year.
johnw - +14c & overcast with a few sprinkles.
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I like that, Ralph.
Thank you Maggi.
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Nerine sarniensis ?
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Spectacular! Is that the true species, or a cultivar?
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No, definitely a cultivar; the straightforward species of N. sarniensis has flowers of a vibrant orange... petals are perhaps also narrower on the species
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"Cultivar" does not rule out species; does it ? :-\
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Yes it does. Cultivated variety, not wild species.
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Chilly but the sun brought things along quickly today. One notable one but not the darkest purple - Nerine PS-14 #2 ['David Lionel' x ('Quest' x 'Eve')-27712b]. Virtually impossible to capture the true colour likely due to the amount of red in the buds and underlying the final purple.
johnw
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Yes it does. Cultivated variety, not wild species.
Does this quote from the RHS rule out species?
a cultivar is a group of individual plants which collectively is distinct from any other, which is uniform in its overall appearance and which remains stable in its attributes.
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Nerine flexousa alba
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Nerine Bowdenii
Nerine Bowdenii Alba
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Nerine 'Solent Swan' and 'Mother of Pearl' today. Impossible to photograph unless against a dirty white wall.
johnw
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Chilly but the sun brought things along quickly today. One notable one but not the darkest purple - Nerine PS-14 #2 ['David Lionel' x ('Quest' x 'Eve')-27712b]. Virtually impossible to capture the true colour likely due to the amount of red in the buds and underlying the final purple.
johnw
This one may give me the reason to start growing Nerine! Is it your hybrid?
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Nerine 'Mr John' from Exbury. A good rich colour.
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Chilly but the sun brought things along quickly today. One notable one but not the darkest purple - Nerine PS-14 #2 ['David Lionel' x ('Quest' x 'Eve')-27712b]. Virtually impossible to capture the true colour likely due to the amount of red in the buds and underlying the final purple.
johnw
What a splendid purple seedling, John :o
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A white seedling.
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A white with red picotee.
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A white with red picotee.
I've never seen one quite like that. Stunning!
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The red picotee is one to watch, certainly name worthy if it continues to perform well. :o
johnw
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Thanks, Matt and John :)
Here are the pictures in 2012 and 2014. It looks stable at the moment.
I got this nerine in 2010 from an old man who had a quite large nerine collection. He was nearly 90 at that time and lost all his collection by senility soon after :( The last picture is his nerine house in the past.
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YT - He had an amazing collection and set-up. I have kept records for about 30 years and it is quite amazing how Nerine colours can change dramatically from year to year. The good news is that they invariably change for the better, the flower count too. So perhaps that great bicolour will get even better!
johnw
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Thank you again for your advice, John ;) I'll keep my eyes on this nerine.
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A new one here today Nerine SPS-X12. Unknown parentage, from the very first batch of mixed Nerine seed sent to me by Sir Peter Smithers. I reckon these would have flowered years ago had they been potted singly.
johnw - a chilly but sunny day @ 6c; didn't quite make the promised 20c yesterday - closer to 15c.
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Shock #1
Going down to the basement this evening I knocked a seed packet off the shelf alongside the staircase. Picked it up when I got to the bottom and the folded newspaper packet said Nerine SPS-X8, records say it flowered last year in Oct. The packet opened when it landed at the bottom of the stairs and low and behold not only had the seeds sprouted but 3 had single green leaves, most had a root, some had perished. Duly potted up. The next shock was just minutes later.
1 seeds sprouting
2 seedlings potted up
3 &4 mother SPS-X8
johnw
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As a car enthusiast might say "Nice Shocks!"
;D
cheers
fermi
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Nerine x mansellii is a vibrant pink.
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Two nerine species are in flower with me at the moment, the first is N. Undulata. This plant gets better each year, flowering later this year for some reason. Next is a new on for me N. Gaberonensis which I bought from Rannveigh and Bob after seeing it on there bulb list earlier this year. I have to say I haven't been disappointed, it's a cracking little plant and a great edition to my nerine collection.