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SRGC Shows and Events => SRGC Shows Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Maggi Young on April 14, 2015, 04:11:11 PM
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Messages from Show Secretary Julia Corden!
Julia Corden : Lovely home made cakes, scones, biscuits and rolls. SRGC 50/50 plant sale. SRGC seeds and SRGC old library books, so please come and visit us it should be a great show. Thanks to all the Volunteers who come and help .....
We have a great selection of Nurseries coming for you to buy lovely Alpines.
Hartside Alpines, MacPlants, Aberconway from Wales, Binny Plants, Ardfearn to name a few......
Looking forward to the show and meeting up with everyone. Hopefully I make it back in time!
from Perth Show Sec. Julia in Kashmir ! 8) :o
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Just home from a lovely day at Perth Show - Julia and her Fair Maids and Men ran a super day. Weather was beautiful too, which doesn't hurt.
No time to for pphotos at the moment - but lots of fine plants, including some huge Trillium, the biggest pot of Primula vulgaris I can remember seeing, a Sebaea that was huge, great Pleiones and other great plants. But, which of these charmers won the Forrest Medal I hear you ask ?
None of the above - the Forrest Medal was awarded to a quite exceptionally fine pan of Andromeda polifolia 'Nikko' - grown and shown by Stan da Prato - never seen one better. 8)
Well done to Stan!
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.....very kind remarks. I was pleasantly surprised as the Sebaea in particular was a very fine plant indeed. The Andromeda was one of two in the big six pan which won the Caird trophy for class 1 while Rhododendron uniflorum won the Cox rhodo trophy. I also received the Middleton trophy for most first prize points. Cyril Lafong took the Dundas Quaich for Class 2 three plant from different genera. He also had the Bobby Masterton Trophy for best Asiatic primula, part of his winning small 6 pan entry.
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Cyril received a merit cert for Iris suaevolens. The Taylors won the Perth trophy for most points in the show by a Perth member. Sam Sutherland took the Joyce Halley award for the best plant from seed with his Astragalus. He also had a merit cert for Primula rusbyi. Carole and Ian Bainbridge had the best bulb award with an Erythronium
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Ian Christie's Pteridopyllum took the Murray Lyon trophy for best plant from a resident in the former Tayside region- apologies for the fuzzy photo. Sheila McNulty took the awards for best plant and most points in section 2.
Tim Lever's magnificent Sebaea received a merit cert as did Peter Semple's huge primrose and Watt Russell's equally large trillium.
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A merit certificate also went to Alan and Jane Thomson for their fine bowl of Pleione.
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The Perth Forrest Medal Report from Sandy is here (http://files.srgc.net/Showreports/PerthForrest2015.pdf)
Stan and the Forrest winning Andromeda polifolia 'Nikko'
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One smashing Andromeda! A well deserved Forrest Medal.
johnw
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I'll second that John. A stunning plant. 8) Some lovely plants on show.
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Well done Stan.
I'm sure someone once explained this to me but I've forgotten but what's a merit certificate all about please?
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my customary walk round the show benches.
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several plants were put forward to the joint rock committee for consideration for awards.
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continuing....
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Wow!!!
A cracking looking Andromeda Stan!
Very well done!
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thanks - my wife's comment was more prosaic - 'your whiskers need a trim.....'
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and yet more snaps
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and onwards
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at the end of the last bench by the wall
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Well done Stan.
I'm sure someone once explained this to me but I've forgotten but what's a merit certificate all about please?
A Certificate of Merit is awarded to a plant of outstanding quality.
For example there were five plants selected by the Judges to consider for the Forrest Medal at Perth,
the Judges were of the opinion they were all of Forrest Quality so the all received a Certificate of Merit with the Andromeda getting the Medal.
Other plants that may never get a Forest Medal, because they are not 'showy' enough to attract that sort of attention but do display outstanding quality and condition can also be awarded a Certificate of Merit. My own thoughts while judging would be is this the best I have ever seen this plant, the best it can be? Outstanding condition and presentation then I would suggest a Certificate of Merit.
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some of the scenes the public don't see as people unload and stage the plants
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and inside the hall
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Local group members and others get busy as the public arrive. The rest settle in the tearoom to enjoy the home baking which is a tradition at Perth.
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the group plant stall is always a source of bargains and there are nursery stalls to browse for new things
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these shows allow you to buy plants that the garden centres just do not have and bags with purchases soon appear round the hall.
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while some sit in the sunshine; others just sit.
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the show closes at 4 pm and within an hour the hall has been cleared. Almost the last of my quick tour but I do hope others will add more especially on the individual plants.
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..there is of course the caption picture this time featuring two young damsels from the North-east.
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Another brilliant story of the Show Stan, the people pics and behind the scene shots you share give a far better impression of what a show is about than just a series of plants would- I know they are much appreciated by everyone.
Caption in Doric , the language of the NE -
"Hae quine can I hae a piece o yer funcie?"
Translations can be provided 8)
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Stan - Great pix and congrats. Would you have a close-up of your R. uniflora? It's not a species we often if ever see around here.
johnw
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Stan's report gives a marvellous flavour of a show - it really shows so much and we owe him a great debt for sharing with us - remember, he does all this AS WELL AS staging his own plants - which often contribute the largest single entry to any show. Then he gets photos online in super quick time- frankly, I don't know how he does it. I have heard rumours that he is plugged into an oxygen mask by his lady wife as soon as he gets home, to revive him enough to eat some supper and then work on the photos - but this is, as yet unconfirmed.
Thank you, Stan - and many congratulations for a superb Forrest medal win and other successes yesterday.
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John W. asks about Stan's Rhododendron uniflorum - here are two photos -
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Stan obtained the plant some time ago as R. uniflorum, but some of the judges, myself included, were unsure as to this naming. The flowers have no spots inside. The flowers are much flatter-faced than we expected uniflorum to be ( imperator KW6884 for example) .... and the foliage is tiny and shiny on Stan's lovely plant. I spent a while last night racking what is left of my grey cells to think what it might be.... but I'm no further forward. It will be interesting to hear what John and the other Rhodo Boys think.
Super little plant, anyway. 8)
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Maggi - The Uniflora and Saluenensia are two Subsections I give a wide birth. Minefields that stay quiet for long periods and then rear their heads when asked to judge. I can well imagine your bed was littered with books last night.
john
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If it puzzles you, John, what chance would I have!
Quickest pic of Rhododendron imperator KW6884that I could lay hands on is this one from the forum by Steve Garvie
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Some snaps of the plant stalls at the show
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and more plant stalls and people .... some with show benches included!
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more..... "thing" makes its first appearance.....
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You'll gather, I hope, that my photos were mostly taken before judging started. Here is Show Secretary Julia Corden - just returned from India -
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now - keep your eyes peeled.... you should have spotted "thing" in the last batch of photos and it may reappear at any time.....
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this two-tone tulip was open first thing and stayed open all day - looked really lovely!
Last pic is a plant - Tim Lever's giant Sebaea thomasii, not the rising sun!
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Apart from some Pleiones, and Peter Maguire's green Australian orchid, Pterostylis shown earlier by Stan , there were few orchids in the show.
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Primulas were probably the plants with most examples on the benches this year....
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Those primulas were everywhere - there were only a few lewisias
Peter Semples pan of Primula vulgaris - the biggest I've seen - it was just glorious!
Quite a few narcissus about...
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more..... watch out , "thing" is around here somewhere
Cyril Lafong's winning "small 6 pan" entry
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winding up my pictures....
Some of the judges....
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the stewards getting directions from Julia about how to find the distant room where the Joint Rock Committee was meeting......
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and another caption competition --- Peter Maguire, Tom Green and Julia Corden ...... what can she be saying?
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A Certificate of Merit is awarded to a plant of outstanding quality.
For example there were five plants selected by the Judges to consider for the Forrest Medal at Perth,
the Judges were of the opinion they were all of Forrest Quality so the all received a Certificate of Merit with the Andromeda getting the Medal.
Other plants that may never get a Forest Medal, because they are not 'showy' enough to attract that sort of attention but do display outstanding quality and condition can also be awarded a Certificate of Merit. My own thoughts while judging would be is this the best I have ever seen this plant, the best it can be? Outstanding condition and presentation then I would suggest a Certificate of Merit.
Thanks for that Ian. I understand it now, but don't understand it if you see what I mean. If the judges were of the opinion that all five plants were of Forrest quality and thus qualified to be best in show then surely they couldn't agree and no Forrest be awarded? It's a bit like Liverpool playing Man. Utd .in the Cup at Wembley and the score at full time was 2-2 with no facility for extra time. So they decided to give the Cup to Liverpool and Man U got a bit of paper that said "The boys done well". ???
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David - The Forrest medal plant is "the best" - the others are really, really good, and get a certificate to prove it. That may be an easier way to understand it. And, as Ian said, a certificate might be given to a plant that is outstanding in some other way - to a very fine foliage plant, for instance, that might otherwise not be considered for the Forrest award, because of not having any flower - or a plant which displays great skill in growing.
Does that help?
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Great show yet again. Well done Stan, had to laugh when somebody asked you how you were and you replied something like, Yes good and enjoying the nice sunny weather, No word of I have just won the Forrest medal. I had to chuckle to myself. Plants and food first class as per usual. That chocolate cake was delicious, felt guilty eating it all and then Maggi sits next to me with a tiny piece of cake.
Well done to everyone for making it a nice day out. My boot was full of plants.
Angie :)
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Thanks to all for a superb show so many plants, Dave as for certificates of Merit it is good to know that the judges appreciated the skill and time taken to grow a good plant a nearly there winner or maybe you think we should all be certified??, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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That chocolate cake was delicious, felt guilty eating it all and then Maggi sits next to me with a tiny piece of cake.
Angie :)
I got into trouble with this. I was talking to Richard Barr and Stan when I reached out to eat my second piece of cake....the chocolate one. I was halfway through it when Cindy said, "hey, that was mine ! you picked the lemon drizzle cake" I apologised, finished it off and then picked up MY piece of lemon drizzle cake and ate that too!
How's that for effrontery !
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Not known as TC for nothing Tom. ;D
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I have a few pictures to post from the show - mainly close-ups of plants on the bench, and I did not take too many as I was experimenting with some LED lights (successful) and a table top tripod. The table top tripod was not a success, as I was restricted to plants that had nearby bench space that I could use.
Anyway here's some of the plants that caught my eye:
Androsace pyrenaica (Nick Boss) - not awarded a place in its class, but the naturalistic effect was one that I found attractive.
Corydalis ochroleuca (Tom Green) - a neat little plant, this was the section of the photo in reasonably sharp focus.
Erythronium 'Carol Scott' (Ian Christie)
Fritillaria moggridgei (Margaret and Henry Taylor)
Iris suaveolens (Cyril Lafong) - a certificate of merit winner.
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Jeffersonia dubia alba (Ian Christie)
Jeffersonia dubia alba (Cyril Lafong)
Lewisia tweedyi (Tom Green)
Primula elatior (Tom Green)
Primula 'Lismore Jewel' (also Tom Green) - this plant was awarded 'best European Primula' at last week's Edinburgh show
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Primula 'Old Red Dusty Miller' (Tom Green again) - he did have some very nice plants on show
Primula rusbyi (Sam Sutherland) - another certificate of merit plant
Sanguinaria canadaensis 'Mutliplex' (Watt Russell)
Sebaea thomasii (Tim Lever) - certificate of merit
You may notice that some plants in other postings are noticeable by their absence, there's none of Stan's plants for instance, but the table top tripod did restrict what I was able to take pictures of, and most of the large/tall plants could not be photographed. I tried handheld photos, but even with the extra illumination, they did not come out well. Must take a proper tripod next time!
Finally, not a plant on the show bench, but I bought a Delosperma from Harperley Hall Nurseries which opened out in the car during the day, so I popped in on the bonnet and took a photos before driving off. It seems to be from a range that has been developed in the trade under the name of Delosperma 'Jewel of the Desert' They are all named after gemstones, this is 'Garnet' - fantastic colour and now looking good in the sunshine in a raised bed in the garden. 8)
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Sandy Leven's Perth Show Report is now online - HERE (http://files.srgc.net/Showreports/Perthreport2015.pdf) 8)
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Wow!!!
A cracking looking Andromeda Stan!
Very well done!
:o Oh yes , agree with Steve and al the others !