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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: Thomas Huber on April 11, 2015, 08:27:21 AM

Title: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 11, 2015, 08:27:21 AM
Once again the Hubis started to their mens-trip down South before Easter. This year we choose the Northern Adria and its backcountry for botanizing, hiking and biking. Here some impressions of what we found:

057+062 - Crocus exiguus, the Balkan form of Crocus heuffelianus
013 - Crocus vernus, formerly named albiflorus. This is the lowland form that grows much better in gardens than the alpine plants. Will probably be described as a new species soon...
044 - Crocus variegatus, the Balkan form of the plants formerly known as reticulatus.
063 - Crocus exiguus and vernus growing together with Galanthus nivalis beneath the street
Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 11, 2015, 08:39:27 AM
004+005 - The alpine form of Crocus vernus formerly albiflorus, growing in the Dolomites.
051 - a beautiful white form of Crocus exiguus
010 - Galanthus nivalis in a shaded meadow
024 - Erythronium dens-canis together with Hepatica nobilis
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Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 11, 2015, 09:35:51 AM
Excellent pictures, Hubi! My greetings!
Janis
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Post by: Matt T on April 11, 2015, 11:34:30 AM
 :o :o Crocus exiguus photograph 057 - simply astonishing! :o :o
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Post by: tonyg on April 11, 2015, 03:58:18 PM
Great to see these ... and great to know the Hubis are on the road again.
Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 13, 2015, 07:31:11 AM
Thanks Tony, Matt and Janis - here some more:

Crocus exiguus is a typical woodland plant and grows in shaded places, mostly as single plants, rarely forming clumps. We found one place where it grows en masse on a cultivated meadow, but also here only in partly shade, never in full sun. Most of the plants had the typical v-shaped tipps, some were without any markings and also albino forms with and without v were found.
Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 13, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
052+53 Two close-ups and
048 a photo from a typical woodland-scene where Crocus exiguus grows together with Galanthus nivalis, Primula elatior, Hepatica nobilis, Helleborus viridis and Crocus vernus (former albiflorus).
050 - Chris making photos with the mobile
Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 13, 2015, 02:19:17 PM
Crocus variegatus is a plant of open, dry and sunny meadows, sometimes I found it in small shrubs, but only in lower elevations. In higher places it prefers non shaded positions. Most plants have a white ground colour and a variable striping or feathering, but somtimes blue coloured plants are found.
Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 14, 2015, 06:41:37 AM
Crocus vernus grows everywhere - we found it in open, sunny meadows, in shaded woods on Northerns mountainslopes and also in river marsh area from 300m up to 1000m. Most of the flowers were pure white and probably identical to the plants that George Maw listed as Crocus montenegrinus in his monograph. In my garden these plants grow very well, while the high mountain plants from around 2000m in the Alps never survive more than one or two years - this makes me think, that the lowland plants are another species - the phylogenetical research is in progress.
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Post by: Thomas Huber on April 14, 2015, 06:46:39 AM
We also found a few places where the white form grows together with a blue form. Although I have searched for I didn't find hybrids, but in a hidden corner of one meadow I found beautiful blue tipped plants.
Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 14, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
Not a crocus, but also one of my favourites: Galanthus nivalis.

Growing in shaded wood, Northern slopes, damp riversides and cool roadsides. Sometimes also found in dry meadows, but it looked like there have been shrubs in the past, which were removed - the Galanthus have survived, but don't feel happy in their warmer habitat.

I only found slight variation, small or large green tipps, longer petals, but only 3 plants with green outer tipps.
Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 14, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
Some habitat shots.
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Post by: Thomas Huber on April 14, 2015, 02:16:23 PM
At the end some mixed plantings, hope you enjoyed the trip !
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Post by: Maggi Young on April 14, 2015, 02:26:28 PM
Beautiful flowers and the company of two handsome men -what is there not to enjoy?
But this third guy - Rocky -  he is a bit frightening......
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Title: Re: Crocus and other bulbs in the Adriatic coastal mountains
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 14, 2015, 02:41:26 PM
You're so right Maggi - no reason to be grumpily. That's why we put this spoilsport into the dark woods  ;D

Apart from botanizing Chris and I have done many kilometers with the bike, by foot and hiking through the local canyons.
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Post by: Maggi Young on April 14, 2015, 03:02:04 PM
Busy  "holiday" but great for you  Sportsmen...... like a training camp!
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Post by: Thomas Huber on April 14, 2015, 03:12:28 PM
...botanizing was only minor matter of our holiday   ;)
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Post by: krisderaeymaeker on April 14, 2015, 08:58:51 PM
Great pictures Thomas ! Thanks for sharing once again !
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Post by: Pauli on April 15, 2015, 05:05:11 AM
I can agree with Hubi on his view separating alpine and trans alpine populations of Crocus vernus albiflorus. I had the same idea when I saw the southern population at Svete Jure behind Makaskar. I have never seen such "albiflorus" in the alps. And, as Hubi mentioned, the a rather easier to cultivate...
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