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Title: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2015, 09:23:40 AM
The RHS Early Daffodil Competition  was  held at Wisley   31 March /1 April 2015.
Quite a number of folks known to us in the forum were involved- congratulations to Wendy Akers, Brian Duncan and Anne Wright  who were very successful at the show.

I have "pinched" this photo of Brian Duncan and Anne Wright from the The Northern Group of the Daffodil Society's website report.

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You can read the whole report HERE (http://daffodils.thenortherngroup.co.uk/?p=2447)
 
Thanks to my "inside man" for the info!
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on April 02, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
No more than 12cm high, from Brian Duncan  in 2012, Narcissus primigenius.
 
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 02, 2015, 08:02:55 PM
Warmest congratulations Wendy, Anne and Brian.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: annew on April 03, 2015, 10:50:16 AM
Made it to my first Daffodil Show!
Best advice given while staging my first exhibit – “You might try putting water in the vase”
Best advice NOT given while staging my first exhibit – check your moss for slugs before using it (result – 3 of my best flowers eaten overnight!)

I don't think red sweaters are mandatory - the photo was taken as I helped Brian stage his flowers.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: mark smyth on April 05, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
Wasn't that a lovely Narcissus on Beechgrove Garden - N. cyc x N. moschatus but what was the name? Valley Girl or Bali Girl or ...? Who bred it and is it available?

Lovely to see Brian and Anne side by side
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: mark smyth on April 05, 2015, 10:17:13 AM
I've just put N. cyc pollen on to my N. moschatus or is it N. alpestris?
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 05, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Wasn't that a lovely Narcissus on Beechgrove Garden - N. cyc x N. moschatus but what was the name? Valley Girl or Bali Girl or ...? Who bred it and is it available?

Lovely to see Brian and Anne side by side

 It was Narcissus 'Ballet Girl' and was raised by Margaret and Henry Taylor. It is not available as far as I know.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Maritfri on April 05, 2015, 09:30:46 PM
Not so seldom but very welcome is Narcissus tete a tete.

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We were several which enjoyed the flowers :)

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Marit 8)
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Roma on April 05, 2015, 10:19:10 PM
Lovely clear picture of the hoverfly, Marit.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 06, 2015, 10:54:35 AM
I was wondering when the first Narcissus pictures would be on the Forum for this year. Thinking about it because I've been planting out a lot of my potted ones and they're very much on my mind at present. It's incredible how many are up already. This is just mid autumn after all, down here. 'Nylon' and its relatives are well in bud and even some spring forms like bulbocodium forms are well into leaf. And as for crocuses.... by the hundreds this year, planted out last year after confined to pots previously. They obviously love the wide open spaces ("and the starry sky above. Don't fence me in")
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 06, 2015, 11:01:53 AM
couldn't resist it- one of my old favourites!

Don't Fence Me In [Song by Cole Porter] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyNsXDKBWCc#ws)

Don't fence me in!  Gotta love Cole Porter - and sung by Bing Crosby.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 07, 2015, 10:06:34 AM
Oh yes, that lovely, lazy, cowboy drawl. :)
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 08, 2015, 04:10:23 PM
This post  comes from facebook. It was made by Bill Squire, in Dorest who kindly allowed me to share
it:

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Narcissus rupicola x gaditanus JWB 65/3A.

Bill wrote :
"A cross made by John Blanchard 50 years ago this month. Because N.gaditanuss is difficult to grow for any length of time in cultivation John decided to do this cross, I believe after 50 years he has proved his point. The pot full shown is just merely 8 years in my possession."
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Matt T on April 10, 2015, 08:50:52 AM
A few more blooms out here but tricky getting shots in the stiff breeze.
A good reliable one from N.Z. is 'Hawera'.
Here's my 'Kenellis', not really giving away it's Bulbocodium heritage, makes one wonder why it's classed as a Div. 10 Bulbocodium Hybrid and not placed in another division.
Compare with 'Diamond Ring', a stunning hoop petticoat, which in this pic reminds me of a chorus line up!
Finally, the star of the moment, 'Solveig's Song' cannot be faulted for vigour, grace and beauty. Currently ten flowers open in this pot with a few more to come. She was new last year, when it only had 2 flowers. Rannveig has made a cracker here.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: annew on April 12, 2015, 08:21:53 AM
Very nice, Bill.  :)
Maggi, it would be useful if you could put my life back in February as well, please. ;)
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 12, 2015, 09:42:49 AM
Very nice, Bill.  :)
Maggi, it would be useful if you could put my life back in February as well, please. ;)

I've rescued my misplaced post re the Narcissus rupicola x gaditanus JWB 65/3A to the correct thread .

And sorry, Anne, the impossible we do immediately, miracles take a little longer.......  ;) I'm afraid you are still in April  :P
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Darren on April 13, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
This bulbocodium was grown from exchange seed a few years ago and seems to be quite unusual. Especially the very wide and shallow corona, the way it incurves at the edge, plus the sheer size of the flowers - see the picture with a flower resting on my lens cap. The last shot is of it in the access frame.



Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: annew on April 13, 2015, 05:16:00 PM
It's a cracker - classic N. obesus shape to the flower. Are the leaves prostrate?
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 13, 2015, 11:41:05 PM
A beautiful form. I still await my first since we arrived in New Zealand, from SRGC seed. Not much use trying shop bought bulbs. They are all dead! :(
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Darren on April 14, 2015, 07:08:18 AM
It's a cracker - classic N. obesus shape to the flower. Are the leaves prostrate?

Not really prostrate Anne but they don't overtop the flowers and those flower stems are only about 8cm. This is the bigger of two potfuls but has some muscari mixed in with it. I originally grew it planted out in my old bulb frame but moved everything in to pots in the new frame last summer and some intermixing happened. The smaller pot seems 'pure'. It seems very vigorous and floriferous as well - lots of buds still developing.

Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 15, 2015, 07:29:18 PM
Hi could anyone identify this narcissus for me please, it was a seedling last year from who knows where. This year it has flowered, it has a really small flower which makes me think it is N. Jonquilla. Have a look at the photo and see what you think.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7636/16536855854_945211f00b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rciH7o)image (https://flic.kr/p/rciH7o) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Philip Walker on April 17, 2015, 02:16:11 PM
N.Solveig's Song'
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: annew on April 17, 2015, 04:06:19 PM
John,
Might it be one of my calcicola x watieri hybrids?
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 17, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
I don't think so Anne, I've only bought species narcissus off you, so it can't be that hybrid you mentioned. I have a actual n. Jonquil in the front garden that I got off Rannveig Wallis last autumn so when the flower opens I shall compare the two. What ever it is Anne it is a loverly dainty little thing.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Robin Hill on April 17, 2015, 06:02:52 PM
My first post. I could not let Anthony's comments regarding the dead bulbocodiums for sale in New Zealand Garden Centres go without comment.
The quality of these bulbs along with many other of the narcissus bulbs available is appalling. How can the average gardener be encouraged in growing daffodils when such poor quality is offered.
These bulbs are obviously imported from the Northern Hemisphere and may have been out of the ground for up to 12 months. The question is then asked is why are the large bulb suppliers able to import these bulbs when it is virtually impossible for the enthusiasts in NZ to import daffodils from overseas now due to red tape restrictions.
Robin Hill
Cambridge New Zealand
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: annew on April 17, 2015, 08:21:41 PM
These are in flower now, and I'm enjoying them in the garden - Brian Duncan's 'Memorina Group', which he bred to look like the old fashioned daffodils that I like so much. These have variable cup colour from yellow to orange, and are all about 30cm high, with the flowers about 5cm across.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 17, 2015, 09:11:46 PM
Narcissus jonquilla (OBW158), Narcissus obesus (T444), Narcissus bulbocodium and Narcissus tazetta 'Hoopoe' (OBS15)
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: annew on April 18, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
I like how you have planted your N. obesus, Herman. It looks 'wild'
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Matt T on April 18, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
Memorina Group is lovely, Anne. Old-fashioned bearing and miniature to boot. Cracking!

John's mystery Narcissus remains me a little of 'Minnow' or its sport 'Pacific Coast'. 
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 18, 2015, 02:13:27 PM
Hi Matt, I've just googled minnow and you were spot on, thanks mate.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 23, 2015, 09:40:14 AM
My pot of Narcissus obsoletus is still producing flowers. Nineteen so far, and as each flower is one bulb, that's a lot of bulbs. The latest flower seems different.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Gerdk on April 23, 2015, 02:30:03 PM
My pot of Narcissus obsoletus is still producing flowers. Nineteen so far, and as each flower is one bulb, that's a lot of bulbs. The latest flower seems different.

Anthony, nice pot of well cultivated plants! The corona of N. obsoletus (N. miniatus) is normally olive when opening and turns to reddish orange later.

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 23, 2015, 08:13:36 PM
I was thinking of the creamy colour with the lemon centre.
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Gerdk on April 24, 2015, 06:08:58 PM


I was thinking of the creamy colour with the lemon centre.

Anthony, I understand what you mean. Unfortunately the colours mentioned are not visible well.
I also found the species with cream (and slightly orange tinted) petals in the wild.

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Philip Walker on April 25, 2015, 01:16:19 AM
N.bulbocodium 'Golden Bells Group'
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 26, 2015, 11:23:03 AM
Narcissus viridiflorus is still in bloom - the stems were just emerging when we left 2 weeks ago and I was afraid they would be over by the time we returned.
Sadly no blooms on N. obsoletus as they have been decimated by pests :'( :'( :'(
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus April 2015
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 26, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
My viridiflorus are not showing yet. I have a pot of bulbocodium that has been in leaf throughout the summer and is showing a flower bud at soil level. This will mean, despite my attempts to dry out the pot, it has been in leaf for well over a year.
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