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Title: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 29, 2015, 12:34:11 PM
Here are my dahlia tubers, all have been checked over and bad parts removed ready for the new season.

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Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Graeme on March 29, 2015, 06:25:56 PM
been potting mine up today - its been raining here all day - they have all sprouted

did them and then started on the rhodohypoxis - did half of them - I need to get them done and then move on to the agapanthus

Got 4 whole days off at the end of the week just hope its fine - got concrete to lay..........
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 29, 2015, 07:29:04 PM
I've got mine sorted today thankfully.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 30, 2015, 01:40:17 AM
Ours are in full flower right now. Our climate is such that we don't need to lift and store them though I believe some people do, maybe those who are interested in showing and perhaps need to produce bigger better flowers.

I just grow 2, the wonderful 'Bishop of Llandaff' (below) and an odd little species which I grew from seed, from our man in Nova Scotia. I don't know its name and haven't a picture but it is short, about 50cms and has a small flower made up of a relatively large yellow disk and an outside row of dark crimson petals, very small and shaped like a cat's ears.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 30, 2015, 01:42:41 AM
I DO have a picture after all. Here it is.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 30, 2015, 07:48:51 AM
That's a real cutie, Lesley!
How tall does the plant grow?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 30, 2015, 05:36:55 PM
Hi Lesley your bishop of llandaff is amazing so many flowers, and your unknown plant looks really good too. I'm tempted to try my hand with some of the other bishops, I grow llandaff and it does really well here.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Tasmanian Taffy on March 30, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
Hi Lesley, I also received some seeds from our friend in Nova Scotia a few years back and the flowers look the same as the ones in the pic that you showed. Mine were labelled Dahlia Imperialis this year the plant is almost a meter tall. Regards John.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Tasmanian Taffy on March 31, 2015, 03:39:49 AM
Fermi, I may still have a few seeds left if you would like to try some. They have been kept in the fridge so should still be viable.
PM me if you want some Regards John.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 31, 2015, 05:55:47 AM
Hi john isn't that one of the species dahlia, I'd heard it was a tall plant.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 31, 2015, 08:36:17 AM
I don't think our little one is D. imperialis John. That is indeed, a tall - very tall - species and is pinky lavender colour thought there is also a white form. It was tender with me but just as well because I was growing it in a netted tunnel and when it reached 3 metres it poked a hole through the netting and reached for the sky. At about 4 metres the frost got it and it never appeared again the next year.  Fermi, this little bod is about 50-60cms at full height.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 31, 2015, 08:39:12 AM
with some of the other bishops

I didn't know there were other Bishop dahlias. What are they? and what are their colours? Do they have the same gorgeous dark foliage? I've not seen any in NZ but then I don't usually hunt for dahlias. :)
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on March 31, 2015, 09:58:06 AM
Hi Lesley, I also received some seeds from our friend in Nova Scotia a few years back and the flowers look the same as the ones in the pic that you showed. Mine were labelled Dahlia Imperialis this year the plant is almost a meter tall. Regards John.

I understood that Dahlia imperialis was the very tall knicker-pink one - a "tree" dahlia, in effect?    It's been shown several times in the Forum I think - by Paul T etc?   No resemblance to the cute little red fellow shown by Lesley.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 31, 2015, 10:27:34 AM
I didn't know there were other Bishop dahlias. What are they? and what are their colours? Do they have the same gorgeous dark foliage? I've not seen any in NZ but then I don't usually hunt for dahlias. :)
Lesley, see http://www.national-dahlia-collection.co.uk/en/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?category=9 (http://www.national-dahlia-collection.co.uk/en/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?category=9)
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: François Lambert on March 31, 2015, 11:00:34 AM
Not sure if the link will work, but I posted a pic of a Dahlia Imperialis in the section below.  As always with Dahlia Imperialis, given the height of the plant, they are taken from a frogs perspective

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12521.msg319800#msg319800 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12521.msg319800#msg319800)
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on March 31, 2015, 11:47:36 AM
Not sure if the link will work, but I posted a pic of a Dahlia Imperialis in the section below.  As always with Dahlia Imperialis, given the height of the plant, they are taken from a frogs perspective

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12521.msg319800#msg319800 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12521.msg319800#msg319800)


 And did you self-pollinate the flowers,  François ?
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: François Lambert on March 31, 2015, 12:19:19 PM

 And did you self-pollinate the flowers,  François ?

Yes ...

but a frost killed the plants a little later  :'(  The Dahlia outside was too big to move anywhere else, I moved the small one from the greenhouse to the barn, but by -4°C outside the temperature in the barn hit frost level and all the aerial parts were toasted.  To be noted that a Hedychium Gardnerianum in the same barn perfectly survived these temps.

Up for another try this year, I will try to grow the small one into a 'bonsai' size so that I can try again to pollinate the flowers and bring it inside when frost comes my way.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 31, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
Hi Lesley there is dahlia bishop of Dover, pinky/white flowers/dark foliage, bishop of Oxford, orange/red flowers/dark foliage, bishop of york, yellow flowers/dark foliage, bishop of Canterbury, pinky/purple flowers, dark foliage, bishop of Auckland, red flowers, dark foliage. Bishop of Lancaster, red flowers, dark foliage! Bishop of Leicester,  pinky white flowers, dark foliage. Hope this helps john.

P.s. Comisurations on the cricket.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnw on March 31, 2015, 02:16:18 PM
Lesley  - Chuffed your chocolate dahlia has settled in as ours and ones given to local friends all perished after a very wet summer & autumn. I do hope someone in this hemisphere has it going.

There's  'Bishop of York' and 'Bishop of Dover' about.

john
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Graeme on March 31, 2015, 05:10:38 PM
Lesley, see http://www.national-dahlia-collection.co.uk/en/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?category=9 (http://www.national-dahlia-collection.co.uk/en/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?category=9)
noooo - just gone to have a look at that website and orders closed 29-03-2015 ??? - its like getting to the sweet shop and they have just locked up -
certainly will bookmark for next year though as prices looked good
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Tasmanian Taffy on April 01, 2015, 12:42:33 AM
Well mine is obviously not Imperialis then, but the flowers on my plant are exactly the same as the ones in Lesleys pic. Maybe someone can identify it.
Cheers John.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnw on April 01, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
Saw imperialis live for the first time last November when a friend's flowered in the hoop house in late November.  Quite an impressive sight.

john
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 01, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
Dahlia imperialis looks an impressive plant, there was a root for sale last week on the UK ebay site. I had it on my watch list, then forgot all about it. >:(
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Matt T on April 01, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Good number of suppliers listed here (https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/Nurseries-Search-Result?query=20718&name=&view=listView&cbMailOrder=f/plant_finder_nurseries_mail_order/y&context=) in the RHS plantfinder, John.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 01, 2015, 07:03:30 PM
Cheers matt
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: François Lambert on April 02, 2015, 10:44:23 AM
Dahlia imperialis looks an impressive plant, there was a root for sale last week on the UK ebay site. I had it on my watch list, then forgot all about it. >:(

I purchased mine in late summer on E-bay from a French nursery as a rooted cutting.  This summer there will probably be similar offers on the Web.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 02, 2015, 07:29:10 PM
Thanks Francois I'll keep a look out for them.
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 06, 2015, 11:17:16 AM
Those other Bishps are really nice, thanks Ralph for the link. A breeder in Auckland, Dr Keith Hammet has produced a line of very similar flowers on almost black foliage but dwarfer, more compact plants. Three were in the garden here when we arrived, a butter yellow, a terracotta/orange and a crimson which ages to magenta. They're all good plants for this )autumn time of year. The B of Ll goes from strength to strength and so far we've had no frosts so he should be OK for a while yet.

John, my little one from your seed hasn't flowered this year because I was afraid of losing it and kept it totally dry, though still potted, in my shed last winter than (forgive me) forgot about it until I saw the Bishops coming though strongly. So when I went to look and retrieve the tuber was fine but no growth. Planted out it is growing well but still very short so it will be too late for this year but I'll leave it out this time and the others which are hardy here anyway, and perhaps cover with some pea straw and it should come away much earlier and so flower and hopefully seed, in which case I'll send some. There's a lot of seed coming on the Bs. I wonder if it would be worth sowing some?
Title: Re: Dahlia 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 21, 2015, 09:26:06 PM
Dahlia's packed in compost starting to grow now.

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