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General Subjects => Alpines => Topic started by: ruweiss on February 01, 2008, 08:08:06 PM
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Today in the Alpine House:
Dionysia 'Zdenek Zvolanek' MK 9801/14,a very beautiful Hybrid, the colour is still more violet as
shown in this photo made by my simple camera.
Dionysia curviflora, easy to cultivate.
Greetings
Rudi
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Lovely plants Rudi.
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It would be great if we could have some of the growers of say, Dionysias and of the classic Alpines sharing their experiences with us some more though, wouldn't it? I'm thinking of the kinds of plants that probably need alpine-house culture and can pose a real challenge to grow ....think how good it would be for newbies to have some practical advice on those plants. It seems to me that those folks are the ones who are least likely to share their secrets... it's a pity
Quote from Maggi, Jan 14!
Beautiful Rudi
At last, these are the plants the alpine gardeners were waiting for so long.
Let's have more of them.
In Holland we say If one sheep is over the bridge, etc.
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Wonderful specimens
Thankyou
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What a colour the Dionysia ZZ is... big flowers, too. 8)
Luit, I think I see more lambs on the way, don't you?
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Luit, I think I see more lambs on the way, don't you?
In this weather?? ::) ::) ::)
Cheers :)
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Beautiful plants Rudy !!
Thanks for showing them and as my predecessors already mentioned : we want more !
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Dear friends,here are some more plants:
Dionysia F2 Hybrid MK98289
Dionysia iranica
Dionysia zagrica
Draba darwasica,1 year after sowing,seed collected in Pamir Mts. by V. Holubec,
After a few days of absence I found this Draba longisiliqua X mollissima in a very
disturbed shape. After removing the topdressing,this nice animal was located.
A Happy Easter to all forumists from cold Southern Germany!
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Thank you for this lovely visual treat on a a cold Easter day!!!!
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To brighten up this cold Winter's day.
Anemonella 'Cameo'
Muscari 'Baby's Breath'
Pulsatilla vernalis
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Lovely, John. Have you just cold and grey weather down there or are you getting any snow? The forecasts/reports I've seen seem contradictory ???
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The weather here Maggie is not that bad.If it was'nt so cold it could be Spring,being mainly bright and sunny with a few snow flurries.At least the strong N.E.wind has gone away.
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Easter was very cold and windy,cold nights down to -7°C. How good to have some plants under glass
to brighten up the mind:
Draba longisiliqua
Clematis tenuiloba
Androsace aff.lowariensis (first flower)
Primula Air Mist
Primula allionii Archer Seedling
Primula Broadwell Milkmaid
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How good to have some plants under glass
to brighten up the mind:
Yes, Rudi, and a fine selection to do just that, but I have to feel sorry for the poor Saxifraga outside with his snow hat!
Primula is actually P. 'AIRE Mist' 8)
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Named from the River Aire in Yorkshire, where they don't have mist because the air is a fresh as a mountain spring! ;D
You grow some very nice plants Rudi.
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Dear Maggi and Dave,thank you for your nice comment, I am always grateful for such a Kowledgable
background information.
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Rudi,
Fantastic pics. I particularly like the snow topped pics, and the Clematis tenuiloba which looks like a great little plant. Another Clematis species I've not heard of. Thanks for posting the pics.
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The caterpiller is from the swift moth or yellow underwing;
Re: Plants in the Alpine House
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2008, 05:47:53 PM »
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Rudi,
I did wonder whether your Primula 'Aire Mist' was actually Primula 'Aire Waves'. I seem to remember overhearing at a show that the way to distinguish them is the wavy edge to the petals on 'Aire Waves' which your plant seems to show - if I remember correctly, then 'Aire Mist' doesn't have that sinuous appearance to the petals. I think that they were also seedlings from the same plant, so it may not matter that much.
Perhaps someone more knowledgable out there could venture an opinion.
Peter
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I may just have answered my own question; having 'googled' 'Aire Mist' I came up with the following website which shows both forms: www.auriculaandprimula.org.uk/galleries/european_primulas.html
It would seem from their photographs that 'Aire Mist' is a thrum form, whilst 'Aire Waves' is a pin form, which would make yours 'Aire Mist'. Also the petal edges look the same to me!
Peter
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Handy, info, Peter, thank you.
Following this success at answering his own questions, Peter will next astound and entertain us , in the manner of the "two Ronnies" TV programme, by answering "the question after next" .... 8) ;)
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The answer is 489.67 ;D
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See! I told you he was good! 8)
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Here are two violets and a storksbill from the greenhouse
1. Viola willkommii - ex Sierra de Montserrat/Spain
2. Viola scorpiuroides - a shrubby violet from Crete and N. Africa
3. Erodium pelargonifolium (trifolium)
Gerd
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Gerd do you know Erodium pelargoniifolium is hardy?
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Mark,
No, it isn't hardy here (USDA 7 b).
Gerd
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Here I sit on a cold very wet and windy grey day in Aberdeen.......... what a joy to see the sweet faces of these exquisite violas! And thwe colour of the V. wilkommii! Delicious! Thank you, Gerd!
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Many thanks for the kind replies,here are some more pictures:
Primula marginata 'Highland Twilight'
Primula X miniera 'Lismore'
Frit.lanceolata
Frit.pinardii from Sultan Dag/Turkey
Gentiana oschtenica, first flowers 3 years after sowing
Saxifraga dinnikii white form
Lewisia tweedyii yellow form,raised by Olga&Ruda Duchac from Czech Republic
and Townsendia nuttallii
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A lovely collection here, with real treasures. I especially like the Primula x Miniera `Lismore' as the foliage looks as fine and choice as the flowers.
The flowers of Sax. dinnikii are like big flakes of snow. :)
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Very strange Gerd that one zone higher means I can grow mine outside. Maybe you should try some seedlings outside.
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Very strange Gerd that one zone higher means I can grow mine outside. Maybe you should try some seedlings outside.
Mark, seedlings do survive most winters, but mature plants will die in most winters.
At least with me 3 Km from North Sea and appr. 200 Km N.W. from Gerd.
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Beautiful collection Rudi ! :o
Great pictures !
Rudi,
If ever you have seed to spare from the yellow L. tweedyi.... ::)
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Mark,
Look at Luit's reply!
Luc,
Lewisia tweedyi ???
Gerd
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Luc,
Lewisia tweedyi ???
Gerd
Sorry Gerd, my mistake - I should have written Rudi.
I've altered my post... ::)
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Lovely set of pics Rudi.
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One that I can't claim any credit for as I bought the plant, Lewisia tweedyi, from Wisley on my visit last month. I bought it to try a cross with my very light apricot form but having said that my own tweedyi plants are looking pretty sick at the moment, maybe I had them too dry for too long. Still can't win 'em all! :(
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OOh! They sell nice plants at Wisley, then!
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I can imagine you couldn't leave this one behind when you left Wisley David ! ;D
Very nice colour too !
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OOh! They sell nice plants at Wisley, then!
They do have some nice ones, but a bit pricey! Still, it is Wisley.
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Today in the Alpine House:
Androsace hybrida,1 Year old seedling
Astragalus spec.from USA, probably A,spathulatus
Pyrethrum leontopodium,in my opinion one of the best introduction of the last years.
From seeds from Tian Shan,collected by V.Holubec. A bit leggy in the house,more compact in the
open like in the picture from last year.
Seedlings from this year
Seedpots,waiting for germination.I sow usually in January and place them after a thorough soaking
in a frost-free period to the open garden until germination occurs.After that they are placed in
the house.The grids are a protection against scratching birds and cats.
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Arisaema sikokianum,sown 2004,first flower.
Townsendia condensata,monocarpic with me.
Oxalis laciniata purple form.
Oxalis 'Tina'
Oxalis 'Ute',both were raised by Gerd Stopp,Chemnitz.
Viola spathulata,a wee thing from Iran.
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Great set of plants Rudi !
Nice to see you will be pricking out one or two seedlings in the coming months ;D
I agree with you on the Pyrethrum leontopodium - it's on my wants list !
The Oxalis lacianata purple form is a real stunner too ! Great colour ! :o
Thanks for showing !
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Luc,
sorry,had a lot of seeds of Pyrethrum leontopodium last year,but no germination till now.
Maybe there is more succes next season. I will think about you!
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Rudi,
Wonderful pics. Those Oxalis are excellent, particularly that purple laciniata. 8)
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Hi All, any clues for the second pic? It originates from the eastern Spanish Pyrenees (2000m altitude)...
Gentiana verna
Viola spec. (willkommii???)
Viola biflora
Cheers, HAns
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Here are some Calceolarias from the Alpine House:
Calceolaria darwinii
Calceolaria lagunae-blancae and
Calceolaria pinifolia.
All my attempts to cultivate them in the open garden ended with the loss
of these beauties,I think,that our climate is not suitable for them.They grow much
better in the house,as you can see in the pictures,especially Calc.pinifolia.
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These are very lovely Rudi. I'm especially happy to see CC. pinifolia and lagunae-blancae. I had both from seed but they died before they flowered. :'(
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Lesley,
thank you for your friendly comment,I must admit,that I also killed several plants by my fault.
Many species are simply short lived,the most reliable for me is C.pinifolia,kept in more dry conditions.
Good luck with the next Calceolarias!
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Beautiful little series Rudi - very good looking plants indeed !
Thanks for sharing them with us !
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beautiful calceolaria's,not plants I ever succeeed with.
Here are a couple of oddities from Turkey. They are both woodland plants in nature, although some species do grow in full sun
aristolochia hirta
aristolochia hirta 1
aristolochia sp poss cilicia.
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Tony,thank you for showing us these fine Aristolochias,it is a pity,that they are so rare
in cultivation.The following pictures were made in the Alpine House,a hailstorm some days ago
damaged many plants in the open garden,especially the Cypripediums and other plants with big
leaves(Hosta,Gunnera etc.)
041Lewisia rediviva
021 (4)Myosotis capitata
011Nototriche macleanii
039Silene hookeri v.ingramii
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Nice to see Myosotis capitata from the southern ocean Rudy and clever you, with a nototriche! :)
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Lesley,Myosotis capitata and Nototriche macleani are the kind of plants I really love,but their cultivation
is a bit tricky in our climate. It is more suitable for growing wine.
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Well Rudi, you can't really go wrong growing wine :D
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Flowers now get rarer and rarer in the Alpine House.
Therefore it is such a pleasure for me to look at all the pictures from these lucky forumists who
take the chance to visit the plants in their native habitats.
Thanks to all these intrepid friends for sharing these precious photos wih us.
Now flowering for me under glass:
Silene plankii from Texas and Calceolaria umbellata F&W 11439.
The Calceolaria was sown in January 2008 and flowers now for the first time.
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Two little gems Rudi.
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Yes indeed.
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I have enjoyed all the pics from your alpine house. Nice to see so many gems. I don't have an alpine house, but I grow some of these in the scree in the open garden
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Ruweiss, it would help us if you could add at the bottom of your posts, your location. Most of us do that so we understand more the growing conditions you are working in. Thanks
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Thank you all for your kind comments;for Chris and all the other forumists I
have added more informations about me and my location.
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Many thanks Ruweiss, it really does help. And I should have said earlier, what beautiful specimens you have in your alpine house. Love the calceolarias!
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Lovely pics everyone. Got to love those Calceolarias..... rarely ever see anything here in Canberra other than the occasional annual types for "potted colour" in the nurseries. Some of them shown in these pages are breathtaking!!!!!
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Feel free to add new posts here in you like...... :D
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Ypsilandra thibetica. Nice scent & flowers eventually turn pinkish, ? when pollinated.
Propagation tip - grows easily from leaf cuttings. Place each end into comost & easily get a plantlet at either end. Much easier & quicker than from seed.
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Chorispora bungeana. Flowering for the first time from AGS seed. Nicely scented & produces a nice central clump of flowers. unlke elegans which has straggly flowering stems.
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A short look into the Alpine house, Calc.uniflora and Boykinia jamesii are already out of flower.
Talinum "Zoe" is a Hybrid of T.okanoganense with T.spinescens, I got this plant more than
20 years ago from a Czech friend and it grows and flowers profusely as ever.
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Another fine and lovely selection Rudi. each is so well grown too. I love the Calceolaria pinifolia.
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I don't think I've seen Calceolaria pinifolia.... makes a neat shape, doesn't it?
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Great stuff Rudi !
Beautiful Calceolaria's !
My C. Joe Elliot isn't flowering yet (out in the garden) - I love it as a wonderful Campanula but I even more appreciate it for being a little late - gives me some colour when most of the Rock Garden has gone over. :D
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One picture only from my A.H. - pink form of himalayan Androsace mariae.
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Also conifers enjoy the stay in the Alpine house, especially if they are of doubtful hardiness
in colder areas. This small bun is about 15 years old.
Calceolaria umbellata was raised from AGS seed last year and now present itself as a valuable
rockgarden plant,also in the open garden.
Camp.choruhensis from the Choruh Gorge in North Eastern Turkey, does also well in a crevice
in the open garden. When I raised this plant from seed, no free space was available and a transplanting now
to the open garden would surely kill it.
Campanula coriacea is a living souvenir of a trip to South Eastern Turkey, where we found it 1989 at the
Castle Rock of Van and collected some seeds.
Nassauvia clavata is of Southern American origin (Via Saxonian Nursery)
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Rudi, I love the campanulas but, as always, everything you grow looks so wonderful it's hard to choose a favourite :)
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Great Plants Rudi !
I love the C. choruhensis ! Very nice with it's somewhat upright flowers ! :)
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Robin and Luc, many thanks for your kind comments.
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One of my favourite Lewisias-Lewisia cotyledon 'Snowstorm'
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One of my favourite Lewisias-Lewisia cotyledon 'Snowstorm'
David, I can imagine that this beauty is a favourite of you 8)
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That's a lovely white David, worth the naming.
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snowwhite all right ! 8)
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Beautiful, David. I think the bright gold stamens just set it off so nicely too. Thanks.
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Campanula fragilis from the Italian Abruzzi Mts. flowers reliable and profusely
every year.
The form from Mte. San Angelo near Naples flowers later and is less vigorous,
but also very beautiful, with me it is still in buds, the picture is from last year.
My attempts to cultivate these plants in the open rockgarden failed.
I think that it hates water at the wrong time.
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Campanula fragilis Abruzzen
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Rudi, so kind of you to spend some time on your Birthday to post these beautiful Campanulas. :-*
Superb quality of the Abrizzi form 8)
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They are very lovely Rudi. I hope you enjoy a very happy birthday today.
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Rudi,
that is a stunning display!
Happy Birthday for yesterday!
cheers
fermi
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Wonderful Campanulas Rudi ! One I have'nt grown before - I'm putting it on my wants lis now !
thanks for showing it !
.... and a belated very happy birthday !!!
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Rudi,
The Campanula fragilis are just glorious. What a fantastic display!!!!
Happy Birthday for yesterday from my part of Australia as well. 8) I hope it was a great day.
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Happy Birthday for yesterday from me too Rudi - what a fabulous Campanula fragilis - I love the soft blue :) and your plant looks so happy!
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Dear friends, thanks for the positive comments and all the
good wishes for my birthday. It is such a good feeling to
know so many fine people with the same interests.
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Rudi , sorry to be late with my Birthday Wishes . Yes , stunning pictures of the iitalian
Campanula , would love to grow it in my crevice garden . Saw a Campanula a few years
ago on the Isle of Capri that looked very much like it -do you know if C. fragilis grows on
Capri ?
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Hallo Otto, vielen Dank for your good wishes, I will try to save some seeds though
I was not sucessful with it in the last years, in spite of the large amount of flowers.
I have no information about Camp.fragilis in Capri, but Napoli is not far away from it.
Could be possible.
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Campanula Joe Elliot is still in flower with more and more flowers every day, in
my opinionon a must for every Campanula lover.
Another Campanula relative is Trachelium asperuloides from Greece.
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Beautiful Rudi. Campanula 'Joe Elliott' is now on my ever expanding 'wants list'
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And a superb Trachelium Rudi. I know this plant has a quite difficult reputation.
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Campanula Joe Elliot is still in flower with more and more flowers every day, in
my opinionon a must for every Campanula lover.
Another Campanula relative is Trachelium asperuloides from Greece.
This world of Campanulas is totally enthralling, all so very different and Joe Elliot is so appealing :)
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Campanula Joe Elliot is still in flower with more and more flowers every day, in
my opinionon a must for every Campanula lover.
Another Campanula relative is Trachelium asperuloides from Greece.
I'm a C. Joe Elliot fan too Rudi ! I grow mine outside in the garden though !
The Trachelium looks splendid.... and it's only starting to flower !! Beautiful !
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Dear friends, thank you for the kind replies.
Trachelium asperuloides is not difficult in the Alpine house in
my experience,but it could be not so easy in other climates.
I have no experience with cultivation in the open garden,but
will probably try it in some time.
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Two from my July flowering plants are grown in pots:
Gentiana georgei
Gladiolus flanaganii (South Africa)
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About 25 years ago Conandron ramondoides grew very well in my garden,but then I somehow
lost it. All my attempts to get it again failed,so I was so happy to get Japanese wild seeds by
the AGS Seed Exchange. Sown in January 2008 it germinated and grew very well and flowers now.
The only problem are snails and slugs which are a real pest,especially in this year.
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More lovely plants Rudi. A real treat to see the Conandron looking so well.
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Lesley,thank you for the kind comment, it is so nice
to have you back at the forum again.
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Here is what I have as Zephyranthese 'La Buffa Rose' (or perhaps it should be 'Labufarosae', I seem to remember us having this discussion last year).
When I posted a pic last year Alberto Costello considered it to be a Cooperia which I think has been subsumed into Zephyranthese. For such a pretty little flower it does cause problems ;D
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Very pretty David but hardly "rose." :)
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I agree Lesly, just the vaguest hint of pink at the very tip of the petals.
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Rudi,
The Conandron ramondoides is quite striking. Yet another Gesneriaceae that I've never heard of or seen before. So many different ones seem to pop up here on the SRGC forums, but this one has such different flowers. Beautiful!! Thanks for posting. 8)
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Cyclamen mirable & C. intaminatum flowering in the raised bed in the alpine house & Parnassia fimbriata in flower on the edge of a friends pond.
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Paul, the Conandron is another of the many very choice plants which come from Japan. I have had it here both imported years ago and more recently from a local source but it is extremely dry sensitive and I lost it both times. Unlike Ramonda, it dies down in winter to a resting bud and I couldn't bring it out of that dorman state. would love to try again.
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Flowering under glass today:
Calceolaria pinifolia
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Calceolaria darwinii
Erigeron compactus v. consimilis
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Brilliant plants everyone.
I have Clematis tenuifolia in a trough but it has only flowered once. How can I get it to flower?
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The rest of my Conandron ramondoides plants is now in full flowers. I say the rest, because some of
them did not survive the last winter in the unheated alpine house. Try to do everything to keep these
fascinating plants in my collection. Many years ago I had plants from another clone which survived
even in the open garden.
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Rudi, your Conandron ramondoidesa is such a special plant - I love the way it is flowering profusely high over the large leaves - what is its natural habitat in Japan - is it stream margins?
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Robin, my literature says, that C.ramondioides grows in Japan on moist and moss
covered rocks which get dryer during winter.
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Thanks Rudi, Primula hirsuta grows like that in Switzerland too :)
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Just to give you a view in my alpine house.
Floweringtime: March 2010
Daphne
Tecophilaea
Dionysia Judth Bramley
Dionysia bazoftica
Dionysia aretioides Bevere
Dionysia bryoides JLMS 4 vormen
Dionysia hausknechtii
Dionysia viscidula x freitagii EGW 94-1
Dionysia 'Annielle'
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I am so so jealous, Really like Dionysia Judith Bramley. If I had a alpine house like that I would never come out of it. What a display.
Angie :)