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Title: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ed Alverson on February 28, 2015, 10:35:50 PM
The same weather pattern that has brought record cold and snow to the eastern and central parts of North America has brought a very mild and dry winter to the Pacific Northwest. As a consequence, many late winter/early spring flowering plants are 2 to 4 weeks early. Most of my Erythroniums already have buds showing, and E. tuolumnense and E. grandiflorum now have open flowers. Here is a bugs-eye view of Erythronium grandiflorum (the white-anthered var. parviflorum), taken earlier today.

Ed
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 01, 2015, 05:06:29 AM
Gorgeous!

The only one I have close to blooming yet is E. helenae.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 04, 2015, 07:55:37 PM
Erythronium caucasicum
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8623/16510183627_82f3de84cc_o_d.jpg)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8638/16531334659_bb433dd935_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 04, 2015, 11:25:25 PM
 :o :o :o

I need to source some seed for E. caucasicum! Beautiful Steve!
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Peppa on March 07, 2015, 07:30:08 PM
:o :o :o

I need to source some seed for E. caucasicum! Beautiful Steve!

Me, too!!! What a beautiful flower, Steve! Does anybody know where we can get seeds? ::)
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 07, 2015, 10:39:28 PM
Me, too!!! What a beautiful flower, Steve! Does anybody know where we can get seeds? ::)

Many thanks!
Sadly I only have a single clone which isn't self-fertile.
Wild seed is sometimes available from some of the Czech guys such as Dr Vlastimil Pilous (a collection from Chiaturi, Georgia featured in his 2014-2015 list).

I have never dealt with this company but I see that they are offering seed:
http://www.seedspro.com/product_info.php/products_id/1128/language/en (http://www.seedspro.com/product_info.php/products_id/1128/language/en)

Hope you manage to track some down as it is both beautiful, and very early flowering.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Peppa on March 08, 2015, 06:16:47 AM
Thanks so much for the info, Steve! I'm usually pretty good at checking seed lists but for some reason, I failed to check Dr. Vlastimil's seed list this year... I wonder if he still has the seeds... And thanks for the link! I will definitely check the site! :D

Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: udo on March 11, 2015, 06:02:07 AM
first flowers,
Erythronium caucasicum
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ed Alverson on March 13, 2015, 01:14:20 AM
Among the Erythroniums I now have flowering are a yellow-flowered hybrid that is flowering for just the first time this year. The plants are E. tuolumnense x E. oreganum ssp. leucandrum. I was aiming for a good, solid yellow in a flower with better flower form that is typical for E. tuolumnense, on plants that increase by offsets. Right now the plants are young/small so it is hard to say how they will do as they mature, it will be interesting to see. I've also crossed E. tuolumnense and E. grandiflorum but those hybrids have not yet bloomed - hopefully next year
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 29, 2015, 04:35:47 PM
Erythronium howellii
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8731/16781495269_e0c5e05b0e_o.jpg)

I needed help to get back on my feet afterwards!
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on March 29, 2015, 05:37:12 PM
Can I buy some of that sky please, mine's very grey.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ed Alverson on April 01, 2015, 04:54:06 AM
One of the participants in the Native Plant Society of Oregon's list serve, Travis Owen, recently posted a link to a blog entry of his describing a visit to Upper Table Rock in southern Oregon, which features many native wildflowers, including good populations of Erythronium hendersonii now in bloom. See http://amateuranthecologist.blogspot.com/2015/03/upper-table-rock.html (http://amateuranthecologist.blogspot.com/2015/03/upper-table-rock.html)

Ed
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: mark smyth on April 10, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Ian Y this is the first flower to open of the Erythronium from the local nursery. Small flowers I guess because they are in stupidly small pots
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 10, 2015, 10:57:06 PM
Erythronium albidum
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7710/17091537591_45e38a92df_o_d.jpg)
Photographed at dusk -which accentuates the blue colouration that some albidum flowers show.


Erythronium Ardovie Bliss
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8787/17066272156_7bff56e46d_o_d.jpg)
Many thanks to Ian Christie for this beautiful hybrid.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ian Y on April 11, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
Ian Y this is the first flower to open of the Erythronium from the local nursery. Small flowers I guess because they are in stupidly small pots

Looks like a White Beauty type Mark, possibly a seedling as it has darker leaves than WB itself.

We have many similar seedlings all good garden plants.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: mark smyth on April 11, 2015, 08:14:18 PM
Thanks Ian
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: udo on April 18, 2015, 06:31:04 PM
A new seedling in flower,
Erythronium hendersonii x revolutum
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Jane on April 21, 2015, 08:54:25 AM
Here is one of my favourite seedlings.  Sorry the photo got a bit squashed when being shrunk!
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ian Y on April 21, 2015, 10:18:44 AM
The sun shines today and the Erythroniums are reaching a peak flowering.

Three of our Craigton forms and hybrids.
Erythronium Craigton Flower ( a selection of E. americanum) , Erythronium Craigton Cover Girl( a revolutum hybrid) and Erythronium Craigton Cream( a helenae hybrid).
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ian Y on April 21, 2015, 10:22:19 AM
Erythronium revolutum and White Beauty in the sunshine and one of the Erythronium plunge beds.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 21, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
Erythronium heaven, Ian !!
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 21, 2015, 12:55:50 PM
I planted this more than a decade ago and it promptly disappeared, leading me to believe that I couldn't grow Erythronium here, or at least not in this bed. Suddenly it has reappeared in the middle of the Daphne!

Can anyone (Ian Y?) please ID?
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 21, 2015, 01:25:29 PM
Looks like a californicum hybrid, Ralph.


edit -  Ian arrives and says he thinks more tuolumnense involved -  perhaps 'Kondo'   for example.
He reckons 'Citronella'
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ian Y on April 21, 2015, 02:02:00 PM
One of the tuolumnense hybrids John, most likely 'Citronella' other parent likely to be californicum.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 21, 2015, 05:41:35 PM
Thanks. I do remember buying `Pagoda`. Could it be that ?
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 21, 2015, 05:59:41 PM
Could well be Pagoda - esp. with the plain leaves - same cross as Kondo, I think.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 22, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
Yesterday I saw these white Erythronium blooming around an apartment complex in SE Michigan.  The words were filled with the typical yellow ones but a patch in the "lawn" had exclusively white flowers.
the photos were difficult due to the very windy conditions.

is this a special variety?
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ian Y on April 22, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Looks like they are Erythronium albidum Rimmer
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 22, 2015, 12:55:47 PM
Erythronium albidum
Nice, i did not know about this one as local.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: ichristie on April 22, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
Hello great to see all your pictures we are very busy here so many flowers with the warm weather we are warned with severe cold soon, I post Erythroniums grandiflorum var leucandrum and Erythronium sibiricum alba
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: ichristie on April 22, 2015, 05:08:11 PM
Another few beauties fro the garden cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: ichristie on April 24, 2015, 06:50:27 AM
Weather changed as predicted cold last nigh looks like rain which we need. A few more erythroniums from the garden, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: udo on April 25, 2015, 06:39:55 PM
nice picture, Ian
here some flowers from this weekend

Erythronium 'Kinfauns Pink'
                    'Kinfauns Sunset'
                    'Sundisc' and
                    multiscapoideum
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Matt T on April 25, 2015, 08:41:03 PM
Ian's E. japonicum is beautiful. Such an intense colour.

Patrick is in Inverness for a choir rehearsal this weekend and has just sent me the picture below. Seems that someone has been planting Erythroniums in the public planting beds throughout the city.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: mark smyth on April 25, 2015, 08:53:25 PM
My side ways looking ?Harvington Snowgoose seedling is back for its second year and is still looking side ways
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Roma on April 25, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
I spent a very pleasant afternoon on Wednesday in Ian and Maggi's garden.  I can see why Ian thinks he is in heaven just now. 
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Roma on April 25, 2015, 09:20:41 PM
A few more
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 27, 2015, 09:13:08 PM
Erythronium elegans -Note the small tick on one of the filaments. I'm surprised I don't have Lyme Disease!
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8721/17107221369_c59e86aca3_o.jpg)


Erythronium montanum -Typically it has just come into flower as the weather takes a turn for the worse. The first flower opened facing upward but the flowers turned as the flowering stem extended. The flowers are large and propellor-shaped.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8814/16673182673_3d4abee93d_o.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7657/17085978977_3c5c221e0e_o.jpg)


The plant below was bought as Erythronium purpurascens a number of years ago. It has never clumped up and only produces a single flower which takes on a light magenta-hue as the flower ages. I think it might be another Erythronium elegans rather than purpurascens and I would be grateful for opinions.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8806/17291602902_9d77c18cb6_o.jpg)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8756/17107219879_9453c271a2_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ian Y on April 28, 2015, 12:23:29 PM
I think you are correct Steve, looks like Erythronium elegans to me, E.purpurescens has a number of smaller flowers on a stem, immature plants may only have one flower but they are much smaller than those of E. elegans.

Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 28, 2015, 09:45:48 PM
I think you are correct Steve, looks like Erythronium elegans to me, E.purpurescens has a number of smaller flowers on a stem, immature plants may only have one flower but they are much smaller than those of E. elegans.

Thanks Ian!
I had hoped I was wrong.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ed Alverson on September 27, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
In case you haven't yet seen it, my various writings on Erythronium from the SRGC web site over the past decade have been compiled into an "Erythronium Special" for issue #69 of the International Rock Gardener, see:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Sep251443177809IRG_69_Erythronium_Special.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Sep251443177809IRG_69_Erythronium_Special.pdf)

The issue reprints updated versions of the monthly entries from my 2006 series, "My Erythronium Big Year", as well as some additional material from my Erythronium explorations since 2005/6.

Ed
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Leena on November 26, 2015, 05:14:54 PM
I have enjoyed and learned a lot from Ed's Erythronium Special and Ian's Bulb Log Erythronium posts. :)
I planted two bulbs of E.sibiricum in August 2014, they were bought from Janis Ruksans. They came up last April and the other one flowered, but unfortunately I don't have a good picture of it.  :( Now I read from the Bulb Log about E.krylovii, and started to wonder if this flowering plant is E.krylovii rather than E.sibiricum, because of the plain leaves? I must take a better picture of them next spring!
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Ian Y on November 26, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
Difficult to say from that picture Leena, post more in spring and by then I may also be clearer in knowing the difference.
Title: Re: Erythronium 2015
Post by: Leena on November 26, 2015, 06:08:02 PM
Thanks, I will take better pictures next spring. :)
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