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Title: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: udo on February 16, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
the first flower Sternbergia candida 'Creme Diamond',  :D
a cross between St.candida and fischeriana from 2009
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2940.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2940.0)
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: ichristie on February 16, 2015, 06:30:00 PM
Hello very nice good colour hope this increases  for you, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on February 16, 2015, 09:12:56 PM
the first flower Sternbergia candida 'Creme Diamond',  :D
a cross between St.candida and fischeriana from 2009
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2940.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2940.0)

Wonderfull cross Dirk ! Nice colour , and we hope it get established ....
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Cyril L on February 16, 2015, 09:32:26 PM
the first flower Sternbergia candida 'Creme Diamond',  :D
a cross between St.candida and fischeriana from 2009
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2940.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2940.0)

Absolutely superb Dirk.  New colour in Sternbergia.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 17, 2015, 09:28:16 AM
Congratulations, Dirk,
Is this the first one to flower from the cross? Did you raise many seedlings?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Pauli on February 17, 2015, 12:02:07 PM
Very successful cross!

I also hope, it multiplies well (and I get a chance to try one :P)
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: udo on February 17, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
Many thanks for all. ;D
Fermi, yes the first flower from this cross. I have four seedlings, the other three hopefully in flower next year.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Hans A. on February 17, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Fantastic cross Dirk!
Grow both species side by side, but normally they do not flower the same time here.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: udo on February 17, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
Thanks Hans,
here flowers from this two species in the same time, also this year. ;)
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 25, 2015, 11:58:08 PM
I was amazed to see the first "autumn" sternbergia in flower!
Sternbergia sicula in flower in the Rock garden (through the remains of the dianthus and other detritus!)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 24, 2015, 06:36:22 AM
Nearly a month later and Sternbergia lutea is also in bloom; more S. sicula are also coming into flower,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 19, 2015, 01:30:10 PM
Sternbergia candida is in flower in our garden,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Robert on July 20, 2015, 03:37:21 AM
Fermi,

The Sternbergia are certainly cheery. I had S. lutea in the garden however it is gone now and have had to start over with various species from seed. I appreciate seeing the photographs as it is good for me to think beyond California native plants.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: pehe on September 11, 2015, 04:49:09 AM
The Sternbergia season has started in the Northern Hemisphere.
Sternbergia sicula is flowering in my garden along with Colchicum montanum

Poul
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2015, 01:33:34 PM
It may look nothing to you mate but to me it's a miracle ;D For over five years I've been trying to flower a Sternbergia..... zilch. This is one from a few bulbs my friend Mike Quest gave me (it must be six years ago) and has produced a few leaves every year but nary a flower. Last year I gave it a right telling off and told it it was for the bin if it didn't flower this year. I wouldn't mind if it had been a glorious Summer and it had been baked to the point of cremation but.............. (and it's got a friend too)
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: pehe on September 11, 2015, 06:59:06 PM
David, nice to see that you finally succeded!
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
Thank you Poul, it would be nice to see two flowers next year!
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: hadacekf on September 11, 2015, 07:40:30 PM
Sternbergia lutea loves my lawn.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2015, 09:02:34 PM
They look very happy indeed in your lawn, Franz.  It is a joy to see them.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 11, 2015, 10:00:55 PM
It may look nothing to you mate but to me it's a miracle ;D ...

Congratulations, David! Some things really are worth waiting for.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 14, 2015, 02:54:21 PM
Sternbergia greuteriana just coming into flower.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on September 15, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Photo from KAVB on facebook:

Koninklijke Algemeene Vereeniging voor Bloembollencultuur (KAVB)


Wim Granneman uit Hillegom showt Sternbergia op glas. De linker twee zijn triploide en de rechter twee komen uit Ligurië. Vermoedelijk is het niet S. lutea maar mogelijk S. sicula. S. lutea heeft een bijna zwarte bolhuid.


Which translates approximately as :
Wim Granneman from Hillegom shows sternbergia on glass. The two on the left are triploid and the two on the right come from Liguria.  Perhaps it is not S. lutea but possibly S.  sicula.
S. Lutea has an almost black bulb coat.
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Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 15, 2015, 10:35:49 PM
Those poor bulbs! A little profligate to be growing Sternbergia in this fashion, no? I'm simply irked because we struggle to flower them here. Bonny flowers.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: johnw on September 16, 2015, 02:27:56 PM
Those poor bulbs! A little profligate to be growing Sternbergia in this fashion, no? I'm simply irked because we struggle to flower them here. Bonny flowers.

Never flowered a one here Matt so don't feel bad.  Not even the first year after importing from a place where they set flowers.

johnw
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 16, 2015, 09:07:08 PM
I have a couple in flower/bud now but they are new bulbs bought this season so have clearly had a summer in much better climes.  However, one potful that I acquired last year is pushing up a bud despite our miserable summer - so excited!!
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: johnw on September 17, 2015, 03:29:34 AM
Which species is budded for you Matt? Perhaps it's time again to torture ourselves with this Genus.........

john - a warm summer night, rare this late in the year, 18c at 23:23
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 17, 2015, 08:58:20 AM
Hi John,
I picked it up as S. lutea, but the leaves are more like those of S.sicula. I suspect that it may be the plant known as S. lutea var. angustifolia (or 'Angustifolia' if you prefer). The identity of that plant is unclear and might be a hybrid, but it seems to be the easiest and most reliable. I'll post a pic when it's out - hoping that it doesn't bloom and go over whilst I'm away at the Discussion Weekend...  :-\ There may well be a spare bulb at repotting time next year, I'll let you know.
M
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: ebbie on September 17, 2015, 09:53:40 AM
Sternbergia sicula after a hot, dry summer.

(http://up.picr.de/23136184fz.jpg)
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 17, 2015, 01:07:57 PM
First bit of sunshine for days, and Sternbergia greuteriana has opened fully.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: johnw on September 17, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
Hi John,
There may well be a spare bulb at repotting time next year, I'll let you know. M

Thanks for the offer Matt, sadly I'm on the wrong side of the pond for bulbs.

john
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 17, 2015, 02:38:14 PM
Oh yeah, forgetting that   ::)
Maybe it will set some seed though.
M
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Pauli on September 19, 2015, 03:47:27 PM
Sternbergia sicula "Pantokrator" after an almost mediterranean summer
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on September 19, 2015, 03:56:17 PM
A huge patch of sunshine!
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Roma on September 19, 2015, 05:51:01 PM
Sternbergia sicula "Pantokrator" after an almost mediterranean summer
Wow
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: pehe on September 19, 2015, 08:34:58 PM
Sternbergia sicula "Pantokrator" after an almost mediterranean summer

Very impressing, Herbert!

Poul
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 21, 2015, 08:08:40 PM
Sternbergia sicula "Pantokrator" after an almost mediterranean summer

What a great form ....

Doing very good here in the garden to .....(many thanks to the fine people who share a few bulbs)

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Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 21, 2015, 08:12:20 PM
The one I grow for more years in the rockgarden and sure an old favorite ..... 'Arcadian Sun '

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Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 21, 2015, 08:13:45 PM
One more ....

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Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 25, 2015, 01:48:08 PM
Hi John,
I picked it up as S. lutea, but the leaves are more like those of S.sicula. I suspect that it may be the plant known as S. lutea var. angustifolia (or 'Angustifolia' if you prefer). The identity of that plant is unclear and might be a hybrid, but it seems to be the easiest and most reliable. I'll post a pic when it's out - ...

She's out and enjoying the sunshine!

I also have a flower out on a recently acquired plant purporting to be S. greuteriana (third photo). I doesn't look like the plants I've seen in the wild and I think it's S. sicula. Opinions?
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: udo on September 25, 2015, 08:49:08 PM
Two several forms from Sternbergia sicula,
the great is from Greece Mainland, the smaller from Crete
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 25, 2015, 10:54:50 PM
Just a few steps down the kalderimi/mule track and we were finding more interesting specimens ... Then a couple of flowers that seem to me to clearly be Sternbergia colchiciflora (31) ...
Quote from post here (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg316635#msg316635)

This has been bugging me today. I'm pretty certain that this is S. colchiciflora, but I can't find any sources (online or books I have here) to confirm that it occurs on Crete, i.e.: http://e-monocot.org/taxon/urn:kew.org:wcs:taxon:288134 (http://e-monocot.org/taxon/urn:kew.org:wcs:taxon:288134)

Any thoughts on whether my ID is correct, sources confirming a distribution that includes Crete or has anyone else seen this species on Crete themselves? Thanks.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: ikizzeki on September 26, 2015, 12:22:40 AM
Does S. Lutea set seeds? In my garden and around there are so many of them but I havent seen their seeds.
And the rain came only two days before , so just nothing there..
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: udo on September 26, 2015, 11:58:48 AM
Matt,
why should the Sternbergia colchiciflora be?
Nevertheless, one already sees foliage sheets, it is certain greuteriana or sicula.

ikizzeki,
with me attaches Sternbergia lutea even very few seed, Sternbergia sicula against it really well.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Matt T on September 26, 2015, 04:35:00 PM
Thanks, Dirk. I was wondering if it was perhaps S. greuteriana due to the leaves starting to show at flowering.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Yann on September 29, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
A nice surprise this morning, Sternbergia lutea greuteriana is blooming
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 08, 2015, 02:01:13 PM
Sternbergia lutea subsp. graeca 'Connie Greenfield' - had a problem fitting that on the label. And a nice clump of Sternbergia lutea just coming into flower in the open garden.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 25, 2015, 07:03:06 PM
This is the same clump as in the second photo of the last post - seems very happy here.
Title: Re: Sternbergia 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 26, 2015, 07:06:15 PM
- seems very happy here.
Yes, it does.
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