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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: Ross Barbour on February 01, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
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Nice warm sunshine in the glass house today, perfect to encourage my next set of blooms to open.
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and there’s more.......
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.....and finally. I dug these up from the Garden last year where I had planted mixed corms from the 'Dutchman' a few years ago.
Anyone able to tell me something about them?
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Ross, its crocus sieberii 'Hubert Edelsten' to me.
A very nice selection but a slow increaser to me.
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Ross, its crocus sieberii 'Hubert Edelsten' to me.
A very nice selection but a slow increaser to me.
Great, thanks Rubin. It's doing very well in its pot, now we know what it is it can go out into the garden.
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Some sun today! The crocusses do well in my most Southern faced bulb bed (a bed for the difficult and special ones ;D).
Crocus crysanthus 'Charmer'
Crocus alatavicus
Crocus alatavicus x korolkowii
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Crocus reticulatis x angustifolius 'Moritz'
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Two Crocus in flower today - C. korolkowii 'Albus' and Crocus spec. from Iran
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Some sun today! The crocusses do well in my most Southern faced bulb bed (a bed for the difficult and special ones ;D).
Crocus crysanthus 'Charmer'
Crocus alatavicus
Crocus alatavicus x korolkowii
Why you think that it is hybrid (Crocus alatavicus x korolkowii)? It looks completely pure korolkowii and both are not growing together at Kuramin.
Janis
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Two Crocus in flower today - C. korolkowii 'Albus' and Crocus spec. from Iran
From where Iranian comes? Gothenburg BG? Looks as C. iranicus, but could be C. gunae. Must to check leaves.
Janis
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There was some discussion last month about my Crocus biflorus ssp alexandri (or is it C. alexandri now ?) and I promised some more pictures when it opened.
We did get some sun yesterday, so here it is again.
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There are several cultivars (‘Alexandri’, ‘Eyecatcher’-15, ‘Ladykiller’-14) which superficially resemble wild species, but they most likely are hybrids. That is citation of my first monograph on Crocus from 1981 (in Latvian). Unfortunately I haven't petal design of cultivated Alexandri - clone distributed under this name in eighties by vanTubergen.
Janis
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Janis, i received it as a hybrid, a cross between alatavicus and korolkowii collected in Kuramin Mts. I never been there myself so thanks a lot for the useful information! I will call it korolkowii!
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From where Iranian comes? Gothenburg BG? Looks as C. iranicus, but could be C. gunae. Must to check leaves.
Janis
It came from a location northwest from Zanjan, comparing with the latest great IRG magazine not far away to the area where C. iranicus grows.
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There are several cultivars (‘Alexandri’, ‘Eyecatcher’-15, ‘Ladykiller’-14) which superficially resemble wild species, but they most likely are hybrids. That is citation of my first monograph on Crocus from 1981 (in Latvian). Unfortunately I haven't petal design of cultivated Alexandri - clone distributed under this name in eighties by vanTubergen.
Janis
Janis, it can't be 'Eyecatcher' because this one has a bright yellow throat - obviously of hybrid origin...
'Ladykiller' has whitish anthers, while Luc's plant clearly has yellow anthers.
Luc's plant looks like the cultivar 'Major' with its small petals, but the colour doesn't fit. Maybe the colour
will change in the next years?? I observed such a colour changing in Crocus weldenii 'Fairy' which was
greyish in the first year, the true blue colour was only visible from the second year....
I have another Dutch plant received as Crocus alexandrii with broader petals, same dark
colour, must wait until it's flowering before I can show a photo, we still have frost and snow here.
All the other cultivars can be compared here:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0)
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Janis, i received it as a hybrid, a cross between alatavicus and korolkowii collected in Kuramin Mts. I never been there myself so thanks a lot for the useful information! I will call it korolkowii!
It isn't hybrid. I many times tried to cross all three CA crocus species in all possible combination and got no one seed. So you are right changing label.
We didn't see any alatavicus, only korolkowii at Kurama.
Janis
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Janis, it can't be 'Eyecatcher' because this one has a bright yellow throat - obviously of hybrid origin...
'Ladykiller' has whitish anthers, while Luc's plant clearly has yellow anthers.
All the other cultivars can be compared here:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0)
I'm not growing those cultivars at least for 15-20 years, so I not remember details. My papers are not in best order at present due reconstruction of house. Not possible to find.
Alexandri and Ladykiller is described in Acta Pruhoniciana v. 33, 1975 (in Czech language).
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Here is a favourite and such a good tempered plant in the garden Crocus sieberi Bowles white
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There was some discussion last month about my Crocus biflorus ssp alexandri (or is it C. alexandri now ?) and I promised some more pictures when it opened.
We did get some sun yesterday, so here it is again.
Thanks for posting these latest pictures Luc. The angle the light hits the flower does have some effect on the colour, the bottom two pictures show the colour to be almost black but the top two, dark purple, still very impressive. In the light of Thomas's comments it will be interesting to see whether the colour will change in future.
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Hubi, what did you think about Tony W's wild species in this post (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg322754#msg322754)? Isn't it beautiful?
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Hubi, what did you think about Tony W's wild species in this post (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg322754#msg322754)? Isn't it beautiful?
You're only partly right, Maggi - beautiful isn't the word for this unbelievable incredible species :o :o ;D
Tony W's plant is one of the darkest I have ever seen, but also Tony G's plant from Lesley catches my breath : :P
I would really love to grow more of this species - so far I only have the Dutch cultivars,
maybe somebody has some spare plants or seed to swap with me?
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It's been so cold, my dark Crocus aerius would not open its flowers, so had to take it inside the kitchen.
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Crocus biflorus subsp. nubigena enjoy the snow...
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Very nice. And it has an extra stamen!
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Also Crocus ancyrensis 'Golden Bunch' is a real snowmelting species. ;)
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Crocus versicolor 'Picturatus'.
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Crocus 'Firefly', or is it 'Snowfly'?
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Crocus chrysanthus 'Fuscotinctus' (photo 1,2 and 3) and Crocus korolkowi ''Baisun Tau Dwarf'.(photo 4 and 5)
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Real beauties, Frankie, thank you! 8)
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Crocusses and some snow...it makes me happy. It's a pleasure, Maggi.
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enjoy the snow...
Not really................. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/snow-train-video-maker-admits-he-was-too-close-1.2947401 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/snow-train-video-maker-admits-he-was-too-close-1.2947401) I must think about buying winter tires.... ::).
Rain all day here but more snow tonight.
johnw - +3c
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Crocus scardicus in flower in the sunshine today
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Oooh 8) 8) 8) - love all those beautiful croci flowers, many real stunners!
My congrats to everybody.
Nothing to report here - frozen soil everywhere in the garden.
Hope current bare frosts will not become a Déjà-Vu for me of Feb.'12 desaster :-\ :( >:(
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Crocus scardicus in flower in the sunshine today
Nice image of this wonderful crocus Tony!
Here is one of your x Gothenburgensis which looks very similar to scardicus:
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Crocus scardicus in flower in the sunshine today
Totally bowled over, Tony ! What a gem !
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this one is n°1 on many wishlists :o
btw the 7D deliver such beautiful and deep colors.
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Superb Crocus scardicus and C. x gothoburgensis Tony and Steve. Tony, your C. scardicus must be a good flowering clone. Mine rarely flowers.
A sunny day and more flowers have open on my Crocus olivieri. Not as attractive as C. scardicus but certainly easier to flower and grows well outside.
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Cyril
they are all attractive! I think I have the right conditions for them.I purchased the original from Dr Pilous in 1996
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Crocus scardicus and x gothoburgensis are amazing
I have this seedling flowering now from my own seed. The seed parent according to the label is Crocus sieberi 'Bowles White'.
Do I call the seedling Crocus sieberi or is it atticus?
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New forumist Sophie, from Plant Heritage, tweeted these pix from Wisley:
"The Plant Heritage National Collection of Crocus @ RHSWisley - over 120 botanical variants & 70 cultivars "
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It was sunny this morning, a chance to capture flowers
Crocus antalyensis
Crocus Chrysanthus 'Advance'
Crocus korolkowii 'Golden Nugget'
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Crocus paschei
Crocus tommasinianus 'Roseus'
Crocus vernus 'Jeanne d'Arc'
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Crocus x 'Rainbow Gold'
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Here is one of your x Gothenburgensis which looks very similar to scardicus:
Breathtaking Steve & Tony ! The best of the best.
A sunny day and more flowers have open on my Crocus olivieri. Not as attractive as C. scardicus but certainly easier to flower and grows well outside.
Stil quit impressive Cyril ,certainly when it forms a clump like this .
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Crocus x 'Rainbow Gold'
Nice Yann , here it sticks his nose trough the soil to .....
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One of my favorites .....Crocus cyprius .
Even more beautiful on the outside
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But also the inside is nice .....
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Keep them coming peeps. Absolutely amazing, from the easiest to the rarest they are all fantastic.
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Kris really lovely,one of my favorites
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Thanks Tony .
Crocus sieberi
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New forumist Sophie, from Plant Heritage, tweeted these pix from Wisley:
"The Plant Heritage National Collection of Crocus @ RHSWisley - over 120 botanical variants & 70 cultivars "
Looking good. Glad Sophie made it here .... I pointed her this way when asked about crocus information.
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But also the inside is nice .....
Kris, beautiful but rarely seen or available.
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Crocus scardicus and x gothoburgensis are amazing
I have this seedling flowering now from my own seed. The seed parent according to the label is Crocus sieberi 'Bowles White'.
Do I call the seedling Crocus sieberi or is it atticus?
Crocus atticus. C. sieberi is only on Crete.
Janis
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Crocus roseoviolaceus
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the last photo is .....whouah effect.
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Crocus atticus. C. sieberi is only on Crete.
Janis
Thanks, Janis
Roma
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Steve,really lovely,a wonderful colour
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Steve, outstanding pictures of an awesome Crocus !
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New forumist Sophie, from Plant Heritage, tweeted these pix from Wisley:
"The Plant Heritage National Collection of Crocus @ RHSWisley - over 120 botanical variants & 70 cultivars "
more of S. L's crocus pix from Wisley:
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'Hubert Edelsten'
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'Midas Touch'
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C.baytopiorum
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C. olivieri ssp. balansae
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Nice Crocus from everybody, especially the cyprius, a fave of mine. My own pot is ready to open now, but I think I'll be at work whenever it gets enough sun for it to do so.
From today, a very nice C. veluchensis from seed collected by another forumist. This is a big flowered clone, but I have some more veluchensis coming along with a more intense colouring (and a white one).
Alex
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Stunning pictures Steve! Is roseoviolaceus a good grower to you?
Maggi, of which species is 'Midas Touch' a selection? I like it very much!
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'Midas Touch' is a sieberi selection, made by Alan Edwards, I think. Lovely, isn't it?
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I was asked as a favour from a friend to phone in to Radio Cambridge Gardening programme today.
For a cheap laugh at my expense click the link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02hhd0n (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02hhd0n)
Click in at 36 minutes. This link will only work until 8/3/15
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Crikey, Tony, this won't be easy - the girl reading the news has a ghastly squeaky voice and the presenter sounds half-witted ........ mind you, at least Radio Cambridgeshire still has a gardening programme, which is more than Radio Scotland does! :-X
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Crikey, Tony, this won't be easy - the girl reading the news has a ghastly squeaky voice and the presenter sounds half-witted ........ mind you, at least Radio Cambridgeshire still has a gardening programme, which is more than Radio Scotland does! :-X
I liked the presenter .... a real character, very relaxed and made it easy for me.
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It was much better just to whizz to "your bit" Tony! That was fun.
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Stunning pictures Steve! Is roseoviolaceus a good grower to you
Many thanks Ruben!
Sadly I haven't had roseoviolaceus long enough to tell how easy/hard it is, but so far so good. ;)
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Crocus nubigena (Tatsuo style ;D )
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A wonderful compact crocus Kris!!!
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Crocus nubigena (Tatsuo style ;D )
8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Crocus hittiticus ( 1 & 2 )
Crocus biflorus ( 3 & 4 )
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Crocus fleisheri , keep going !
Crocus atticus 'Bowles White' started flowering on 01/01/2015 ....
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Crocus chrysanthus 'Sunspot', outside in the garden.
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Crocus korolkowii 'Dark Throat' outside in the garden .
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Crocus korolkowii 'Dark Throat' outside in the garden .
And some more .....
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A nice hybrid.
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No crocus far enough advanced in our garden to open their flowers yet. :'(
A couple with colour just beginning to show, so perhaps if we have some more sunny days we will have flowers. :)
Meanwhile it is a pleasure to see the pictures here 8)
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Thanks for the information Maggi! Its the first time I saw a picture of Crocus sieberii 'Midas Touch'. Would be great to grow it but i do not know anybody who have it available? (maybe for swap)?
Nice pictures of the Flemisch Riviera Kris ;D
Some crocusses in flower today:
Crocus sieberii 'Violet Queen'
Crocus sieberii atticus 'Vardousia'
Crocus sieberii 'Michaels Hoogs Memory'
Crocus crysanthus 'Charmer'
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Crocus biflorus ssp. adamii
Crocus candidus ssp. subflavus
Crocus baytopiorum
Crocus korolkowii 'Agalik'
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Just looking back through the forum and fond some photos - here http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=3031.msg76689#msg76689 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=3031.msg76689#msg76689) - Art shows some under that name but which look a stronger colour.
Here: http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2643.msg208878#msg208878 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2643.msg208878#msg208878) Marcus shows the plant he got direct from Alan Edwards.
Janis mentions 'Midas Gold' in his book - he talks about the Scottish connection the plant may have :) 8)
J. R. - Crocuses, page 170 -
" In 1994 Alan Edwards spotted an unexpected yellow seedling among a group of plants raised from seed of Crocus sieberi. He considered the new form to be on the same level with 'Bowles White' but with the white surface color replaced by two tones of yellow. Edwards later named it 'Midas Touch'. The seeds had come from cultivated plants of Crocus sieberi grown by Lyn Bezzant in Scotland. These plants undoubtedly were a hybrid with an unknown species, perhaps C. chrysanthus or C. cvijicii. The latter seems more probable because like C. sieberi it alsobelongs to the section Reticulati. "
Janis also mentions he has tried to make a similar cross himself.
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Lovely pictures everyone. We are having a mildish sunny spell with more crocus opening their flowers.
Crocus adanensis (OS1024)
Crocus baytopiorum
Crocus dalmaticus (ex SRGC seed)
Crocus herbertii
Crocus korolkowii (ex Dytiscus)
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We had our first really sunny day yesterday & the first Crocus tommasinianus finally opened.
A couple of bulbs came from Roy Elliotts garden in the late 1980s, now the garden has them everywhere, in every shade possible.
Amazing what plants can do when left alone. Last photo is from 2011.
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Great photos everyone
Contrasting stigmas
A sunny day in Aberdeen today but the crocuses were closed up by the time I got home from work. I took a couple of pots inside and warmed them up and took a couple of not too good flash photos.
Crocus Danfordiae
Crocus Chrysanthus Sunspot
Graeme
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Crocus vernus, one of the easiest crocus, flowering against a wall.
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Very nice Crocus adanenis Cyril! And you have the true form with a white throat!! Superb.
12 degrees, full sun. A first spring feeling.
Some of the crocus habitats in my garden
Crocus sieberii 'Ronald Ginns'
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Crocus crysanthus 'Charmer'
Crocus angustifolius 'Bronze Form'
Crocus biflorus ssp. weldenii 'Albus'
Crocus crysanthus 'Milea'
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2 unnamed selections of versicolor.
A white Crocus versicolor
A coloured form of Crocus versicolor
A speckled form of Crocus tommasinianus
Crocus alatavicus
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Crocus baytopiorum
Crocus paschei
Crocus dalmaticus 'Petrovac'
Crocus angustifolius
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Crocus fleischeri 'Gulek Pass'
Crocus leichtlinii
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Very interesting to see you're beds Rubén. Gorgeous flowers.
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Superb crocus beds with a wonderful selection of plants Ruben!!!
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Ruben, are your crocus beds open year round or do you cover them in summer? And how much have you modified the soil? The crocus look stunning grown like this - I've only seen them grown in bulb frames but this must be more like E.A.Bowles grew them at Myddelton House. The hot continental summers must be a big benefit. Really must work on making some bulb beds like this :)
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Real nice, Ruben. :D
Here in flower:
Crocus atrospermus
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'' sieberi 3 x
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Ruben, your crocus are flowering splendidly on these special bulb beds. Lovely form of C. leichtlinii. I grow it only in pots to keep it dry in summer.
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Here in flower:
Crocus atrospermus
'' cyprius
'' sieberi 3 x
Very striking Crocus cyprius Dirk. :o
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Crocus corsicus :)
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Crocus corsicus (not in the Tatsuo style ;))
Crocus chrysanthus 'Blue Peter' in bud
Crocus olivieri ssp. olivieri
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Crocus imperati suaveolens is still putting up flowers.
Crocus sieberi subsp. sublimis 'Tricolor' putting on a good show outside (plus withered leaves of Narcissus battered by the hurricane last month - bulbs don't have it easy here!)
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Crocus imperati suaveolens is still putting up flowers.
Crocus sieberi subsp. sublimis 'Tricolor' putting on a good show outside (plus withered leaves of Narcissus battered by the hurricane last month - bulbs don't have it easy here!)
Cool winter weather can give long flowering periods especially for the likes of C imperati BUT the flower in this pic looks a bit Corsican to me ;)
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I'll take another look in daylight. These came from Pitcairn: http://www.pitcairnalpines.co.uk/crocus-imperati-ssp-suaveolens-1233-p.asp
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Crocus gargaricus (outside in my peatbed )
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Splendid Crocus shows everybody ! 8)
Some white ones here :
Crocus biflorus ssp weldenii albus
Crocus korolkowii albus with the delicate grey/white contrast :D
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Kris and Luc, nice Pics
here with open flower Crocus cyprius
and a plant similar veluchensis from Greece
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Cool winter weather can give long flowering periods especially for the likes of C imperati BUT the flower in this pic looks a bit Corsican to me ;)
Tony, why do you think this is Crocus corsicus?
Susans plants are an original TCH collection from 2008 - surely Crocus suaveolens.
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Very nice Crocus sieberii from omalos Dirk!
A picture of the crocus bed out of the kitchen ;D
2 pictures of the crocus bed
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Some crocus sieberii selections:
Crocus sieberii ssp. nivalis
Crocus sieberii 'Ronald Ginns'
Crocus sieberii 'George'
Crocus vernus 'Krasno Polje'
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A nice Crocus versicolor selection by Janis Ruksans
A very nice Crocus versicolor from the VAR in France.
Crocus biflorus ssp. atrospermus
Crocus biflorus ssp. alexandrii
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Crocus chrysanthus 'Constellation' Crocus chrysanthus 'Spring Pearl' (thx Thomas for the alert)
Crocus sieberi 'Ronald Ginns'
Crocus tommasinianus 'Bobbo'
Crocus x leonidii 'Ego'
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My word, what grand collections we are being shown - so good that you are getting some sun to open the flowers. So pretty - and instructive - to see them both closed and open. 8)
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It was a sunny day and yes Crocus are now at their best.
Ruben your alexandrii is making me jealous ;D
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First crocus this spring is Crocus rujanensis :)
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Marit
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beautiful luminous rujanensis Marit!
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Poor shots, with all the snow outside getting a good focus is impossible in the greenhouse. Crocus xchrysanthus 'Phoebe', she seems particularly dark this year.
johnw
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Thank you Yann :)
This is the second time I see them in bloom and I am very satisfied 8)
beautiful luminous rujanensis Marit!
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Here this morning "only" minus 15 C - so still nothing to show. Hopoe some warming from mid-week (if crocuses will not be killed).
Janis
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Here this morning "only" minus 15 C - so still nothing to show. Hopoe some warming from mid-week (if crocuses will not be killed).
Janis
I've never experienced minus 15˚C yet... hoping all your crocuses and plants in safe, Janis. Here are the crocuses from you and thank you for offering to us such lovely plants every year ;)
Crocus chrysanthus ‘Macedonian Ivory’
Crocus nubigena
Crocus vitellinus albino form
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I think this is Crocus herbertii rather than gargaricus that Kris showed earlier, and I'm sure the flowers are more orange than the camera has registered. This grows in a high humus bed along with Corydalis flexuosa hybrids and trilliums and amongst the suckering rowan Sorbus reducta. A fabulous little crocus :)
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I've never experienced minus 15˚C yet... hoping all your crocuses and plants in safe, Janis. Here are the crocuses from you and thank you for offering to us such lovely plants every year ;)
Crocus chrysanthus ‘Macedonian Ivory’
Crocus nubigena
Crocus vitellinus albino form
Heavenly compact Crocus Tatsuo !!! :o :o
I think this is Crocus herbertii rather than gargaricus that Kris showed earlier, and I'm sure the flowers are more orange than the camera has registered. This grows in a high humus bed along with Corydalis flexuosa hybrids and trilliums and amongst the suckering rowan Sorbus reducta. A fabulous little crocus :)
A wonderful patch, Tim. I find both herbertii and gargaricus of a unique orange in the Crocus world !
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Crocus heuffelianus "Carpathian Wonder"
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I know that Crocus heuffelianus is often considered as only a Balkan form of the widespread Crocus vernus vernus but does anyone know of the history and provenance of Carpathian Wonder?
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On page 185 of his book, Crocuses - Janis Ruksans writes about finding the plant which became 'Carpathian Wonder' on the Srednij Vereckij mountain pass while searching for a pink heuffelianus he had been told was in that area. Janis describes the plant as "one of the best crocuses of my life" :) The plants in cultivation are derived from seed of that initial collection- which has a "thinner purple mark" than the first plants. He mentions the award of a Preliminary Commendation from the RHS in 2003.
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Heavenly compact Crocus Tatsuo !!! :o :o
Thanks, Luc :)
Crocus heuffelianus "Carpathian Wonder"
A breathtaking beauty, Steve :o :o :P But Crocus heuffelianus is one of the most difficult crocuses to grow at my place :(
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Crocus heuffelianus "Carpathian Wonder"
I know that Crocus heuffelianus is often considered as only a Balkan form of the widespread Crocus vernus vernus but does anyone know of the history and provenance of Carpathian Wonder?
I guess it would be difficult to get a better picture of 'Carpathian Wonder', Steve ! Tremendous photograph !
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But Crocus heuffelianus is one of the most difficult crocuses to grow at my place :(
Interesting that you would say so, Tatsuo.
I had also problems growing it in the past in pots ... it does a lot better now out in the garden.
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Interesting that you would say so, Tatsuo.
I had also problems growing it in the past in pots ... it does a lot better now out in the garden.
That sound interesting you can grow C. heuffelianus in the garden much better than the pots, Luc. In my experience, C. banaticus, C. speciosus and its relations, and several spring flowering species (i.e. heuffelianus, vernus, tommasinianus) cannnot be grown here. May be they would be able to survive in the garden but I've never tried that way yet. We have long, deadly heat and high humid summer.
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Just returned from Greece and found that CRocus blooming started with me, too. Regardless of very hard frost last night, flowers alive and now in sun nicely opens.
Here Crocus fauseri, named after Australian "croconut" Otto Fauser by HKEP.
Janis
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Stunning colours, Janis.
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It's beautiful Janis :P
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I make no secret of my admiration and affection for the plantsman, Otto Fauser, so I get very excited to see this lovely crocus which bears his name.
Always interesting to see these beauties from your collection, Janis - I am green with envy!
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind present from friend in CA (Vladimir), who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
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Wow!!!
Superb crocus Janis!
Crocus fauseri is a real beauty and a fitting tribute to Otto.
The pink alatavicus is stunning! :P
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Janis - surely the most pink crocus possible? Very beautiful.
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Janis - surely the most pink crocus possible? Very beautiful.
Yes, schocked even I. Nothing similar saw before. Pity, it is alatavicus and it is very lasy splitter.
Janis
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Janis
truly wonderful,what a find.
Some more ordinary ones!
Crocus cvijicii
Crocus reticulatus
Crocus pelistericus
Crocus sieberi
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taking my coffee break, i nearly had a heart attack when i saw your posts :o
Janis & Tony your Crocus are killers.
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind preswent from friend in CA, who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
That is a totally unique colour break. Never thought I'd see anything like it in a Crocus! Congratulations.
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:o :o :o - Janis, are you sure it is not a tulip??? ;)
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind preswent from friend in CA, who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
It's truly an enchanted crocus, Janis :o 8) :P
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Yes, schocked even I. Nothing similar saw before. Pity, it is alatavicus and it is very lasy splitter.
Janis
:o :o :o Absolutely Gorgeous! Guess it will be a couple years before it's available? ;)
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A realy nice Crocus alatavicus, Janis.
Here some others from my garden:
Crocus hartmannianus
'' isauricus from Belpinar Gec, Turkey
'' adamii or similar spec. from Nessebar, Bulgaria
'' tauricus from Krim
'' sieberi, several creme-yellow forms
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Yes, schocked even I. Nothing similar saw before. Pity, it is alatavicus and it is very lasy splitter.
Janis
So frustrating that the most beautiful are the worst to increase. :'( But it is often the case, isn't it - in so many plants -we should be accustomed to this - but it's hard..... :-X
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All these photos of these plants make me what to have more. They are glorious. ;D The best I can offer is this, I think its a Crocus tommasinianus, still its nice though. Also I have a Crocus x luteus but it has not flowered yet.
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind preswent from friend in CA, who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
Janis
After checking to be sure it is not April 1st... absolutely fantastic!! ;)
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Just returned from Greece and found that CRocus blooming started with me, too. Regardless of very hard frost last night, flowers alive and now in sun nicely opens.
Here Crocus fauseri, named after Australian "croconut" Otto Fauser by HKEP.
Janis
Otto truly deserves a superb Crocus like this named after him Janis, it's a real stunner !!!
Janis,
The pink alatavicus is simply flabbergasting !! :o :o :o :o
What a unique piece !
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Janis
truly wonderful,what a find.
Some more ordinary ones!
Crocus cvijicii
Crocus reticulatus
Crocus pelistericus
Crocus sieberi
Your "ordinary" ones make us all gasp for air, Tony ! ;)
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind preswent from friend in CA, who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
Wow! Now I think I have seen everything!!
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Janis you are right .....all Croconuts are envy but also without words anymore. This form of alatavicus is by far the most exciting and unique Crocus of recent years and maybe ever.
Crocus fauseri is also fantastic and is for sure on each wishlist. I am so happy that it is named after a great plantsman like Otto.
Tony , great plants ! Stil champions league ....
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind preswent from friend in CA, who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
Janis, I can only echo what has been said regarding the pink C. alatavicus. Unbelievable!
And so many other wonderful crocus being posted.
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Stunning Janis! And a totally new colour in to crocus!
Is alatavicus easy to cross with a more virgorous species? Maybe this pink is dominant?
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Thank you Janis for sharing your excellent photos of "my" Crocus and the yellow backed form is particular beautiful , but not as beautiful as your stunning alatavicus . Did it arrive from another planet ?
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Now tell us Janis what trouble you will get into with that alatavicus pollen. It will be interesting to see if white-flowered mothers will pass the colour along.
johnw
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind present from friend in CA, who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
As a follow up to Janis's stunning photos of this pink crocus- here are photos from Vladimir Epiktetov, who found t - this was another occasion when, amongst a sea of white Crocus alatavicus, he found one other lone pink one -
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A sea of white crocus
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white Crocus alatavicus
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pink Crocus alatavicus - also quite amazing - a more starry shape that the form Janis showed, which has a fuller, more rounded flower.
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:o :o :o Absolutely Gorgeous! Guess it will be a couple years before it's available? ;)
Afraid that never. C. alatavicus is extremely lasy in splitting. Will try to pollinate, but I don't know - are alatavicus self-fertile or not. May be between seedlings will appear something similar and then some strain could be raised but certainly it will take more time than left to me. May be my daughter will succeed with this.
Janis
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As a follow up to Janis's stunning photos of this pink crocus- here are photos from Vladimir Epiktetov, who found t - this was another occasion when, amongst a sea of white Crocus alatavicus, he found one other lone pink one -
The first pink Vladimir kindly sent to me but next year he found another one individual, but I haven't courage to ask him for this another one, too. Having 2 would be more easy to get seeds and to hope for pink seedlings.
Janis
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The first pink Vladimir kindly sent to me but next year he found another one individual, but I haven't courage to ask him for this another one, too. Having 2 would be more easy to get seeds and to hope for pink seedlings.
Janis
Perhaps he'd be kind enough to send you some pollen though? And you could do vice versa, so you might both end up with good seed set?
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For that one everyone will envy. Got is very kind present from friend in CA (Vladimir), who found this unique colour in wild - Crocus alatavicus. No photoshop applied!
Janis
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wow that is fantastic
regards Mel
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Perhaps he'd be kind enough to send you some pollen though? And you could do vice versa, so you might both end up with good seed set?
Could be nice, but blooming time is very different + post between our countries are transported at a snail's pace.
Janis
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In the days of the great plant-hunters of the past there was Frank Kingdon-Ward in search of the blue poppy. What a story it would make to follow Vladimir in search of the pink crocus! The thrill is just the same, and there would be all those other amazing plants that Vladimir described in that outstanding talk on Kazakhstan in Tábor.
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This season (as well as winter) is very strange here. Autumn crocuses were lasy to bloom and some blooms just now - laevigatus, melantherus started in autumn but now still are in flowers. Crocus aleppicus disn't bloomed in autumn but is in full flowers now. Bog - are from Jordan, VISA - from Syria
Janis
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The first crocus in this entry although labeled as hybrid between isauricus and chrysanthus, really in its progeny aren't blood of both. It was collected on spot where together grow some blue and some yellow crocus with annulate tunics and seem that both hybridise there - or both are extremely variable there making intermediate forms. The yellow one at present regarded as chrysanthus s.l., the blue one may be belongs to some of HKEP new species but hadn't time to check which one. In any case plants are fantastic and this one is one of best there. I think not less beautifull than pink alatavicus, although more common in colour.
Then true isauricus which must be regarded now as typical isauricus in huge ammount of crocuses offered under this name.
The last - Crocus caricus. At least plant on left is typical caricus, the plant on right - ? May be variation of caricus or another species. Both were collected on small around 200 sq. m. large meadow between shrubs growing side by side.
Janis
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The last today - Crocus beydaglarensis, far more beautiful this spring here than in wild where I saw (and collected few) in 2012.
Janis
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Beautiful outer markings on Crocus aleppicus VISA-0411 And yellow throats always attractive for paler flowers.
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A fine selection of crocus to cheer the day, Janis - the sun is fading again here.
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Wow... C. beydaglarensis are all remarkable, Jani !! Beautiful Crocus !
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After all the wonderful pictures of the new and the rare these same old species in my frame seem less exciting .... but the spring sunshine (for one day only) lit them up nicely.
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Wonderful to see all these rare crocus.
Crocus vernus is by no means rare but can provide a marvellous display. I posted a picture about a week ago but now it is at its best.
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Crocus vernus is by no means rare but can provide a marvellous display. I posted a picture about a week ago but now it is at its best.
They look happy at the snug corner, Cyril :)
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Crocus sieberi ‘George’ :)
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A Sunny day with a lot of sun, the crocus opened well.
A overview
Crocus x leonidii 'Janis Ruksans'
Crocus baytopiorum
Crocus etruscus MS 990
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Crocus crysanthus 'Advance'
Crocus rujanensis
Crocus corsicus
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Crocus korolkowii from Badgyz Vallei in Turkmenistan. A very compact form.
Crocus alatavicus ( a late form for me)
Crocus sieberii 'Ronald Ginns'
Crocus x stellaris
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Crocus sieberii ssp. nivalis
Crocus tommasinianus 'Whitewell Purple'
Crocus 'Spring Beauty'
Crocus sieberii 'Tricolor'
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Crocus crysanthus 'Snow Crystal'
Crocus sieberii 'George'
Crocus leichtlinii
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some new flowers today,
Crocus antalyensis
'' danfordiae
'' isauricus from Akseki
'' sieberi
'' 'Rainbow Gold', veluchensis Rila Mts. Bulgaria x cvijicii Vermion Mts. Greece
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Nice batch guys!
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Great show of crocus.
They look happy at the snug corner, Cyril :)
Well protected from the weather. I believe it is an old Dutch cultivar named 'Vanguard', selected by VanTubergen from Russian plants. I don’t remember getting this plant but it has been in that spot for a very long time (as long as I can remember), possibly planted by the previous house owners, over 25 years ago!
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Still unidentified beautiful crocus from W Turkey. May be new species. It is the first blooming with me, pictured two days ago when we had sun.
Janis
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Another twso uinidentified crocuses from same region but different mountain ridges.
Janis
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Crocus crewei from Honaz Dag - the first three came from Erich Pasche, second two are very different, got from Jim Archibald as "crewei with buff seeds" but regardless of name very beautiful.
Janis
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Crocus crewei from Honaz Dag via Gothenburg BG
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Last entry with Crocus crewei collected by myself in surroundings of Denizli
Janis
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Still are blooming autumnal laevigatus and melantherus from Pelloponess in Greece and Crocus michelsonii from Kopet-Dag in Iran
Janis
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Janis very nice set always a pleasure to see your treasures.
Today it's really dark but Crocus are still ready to open when a ray of light cross the sky.
Crocus chrysanthus 'Zenith'
Crocus napolitanus
Crocus tommasinianus 'Eric Smith'
Crocus paschei still flowering
Crocus tommasinianus 'Roseus'
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Crocus x 'jessopiae'
Crocus chrysanthus 'White Beauty'
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A selection from the many in flower here now.
Crocus sieberi sieberi
Crocus sieberi sublimis - seedlings ex Tricolor. Note the variation, one pale, one with a hint of the 'Edelsten' flash and one pale.
Crocus biflorus isauricus - at least that's what it came as. Dirk showed asimilar one recently.
Crocus versicolor - nice form
Crocus baytopiorum
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And in the garden (amongst others) Crocus pestalozzae.[attachimg=1]
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Few more crocuses from sunny afternoon last week. First - Crocus artvinensis, quite similar to fibroannulatus, but with different corm tunics and pattern of striping
Then four pictures of very nice C. beydaglarensis
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The first crocus fibroannulatus
Then 2 pictures of new Crocus brickellii - easy separable from C. danfordiae by position of stigma which well overpass anthers (in danfordiae allways ends below tipos of anthers) and yellow throat is much larger.
The last two I labeled as C. adamioides. It is described from W corner of Turkey in Europe, but thoise plants are collected in Bulgaria, so could be different and when research of HKEP will be completed, they could change name.
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The outside seem will start clearing in clouds, so last entry this morning, may be later will be some pictures added.
At first typical C. taseliensis, according locality and description must be true, but on second very unusual plant got under this name from Erich Pasche. What is it?
Then semi-double individual in Crocus chrysanthus s.l. stock from near vil. Mihallicik, before Kartal gec. in Turkey. In this stock such flowers appear every year between normal flowers.
And on last two pictures Crocus yataganensis
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Crocus sieberi George
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Crocus sieberi Ronald Ginn, a very good grower for us
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Crocus sieberi Michael Hoogs Memory
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Crocus etruscus Rosalind
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Crocus sieberi Hubert Edelsten
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Crocus biflorus ssp.biflorus
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Crocus leichtlinii
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Crocus reticulatus Little Amber
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Crocus pestalozzae
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Stunning pictures Janis!
I very much like the taseliensis? HKEP - such nice colour contrast!
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One sunny day in Germany - but temperatures not above 7°C - was enough to open the first Crocus flowers in my garden. The first flowers came out 6 weeks ago, but have never opened so far (Crocus sieberi Firefly - the blue spot in the middle of the first photo)
-023 view over my lawn
-034 last year I selected some chrysanthus hybrids from the lawn and replanted them in the rockgarden-bed
-056 do I have to worry about the amount of Galanthus in my crocus-garden ???
-051 chysanthus Blue Peter in flower and Spring Pearl coming out
-012 versicolor and chrysanthus hybrids mixed
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-Crocus neglectus - the new species from Liguria/Italy
-Crocus tommasinianus - I found many pink forms this year in the lawn :o
-054 Crocus biflorus Major and chrysanthus Elegance
Crocus weldenii - the wild form from Italy and Slovenia
Crocus gargaricus from Eric Breed
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- This one is also from Eric Breed - he received them from Nijssen 20 years ago as Crocus biflorus, which it obviously not is. Anyone an idea which species ??
-001 Crocus flavus, chrysanthus Goldene Sonne and Milea
-050 again more Galanthus then Crocus .... 8)
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Sun and crocus - life ifs good in your garden, Hubi!
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Sun and crocus - life ifs good in your garden, Hubi!
Ooohh yeah - it really is ;D
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Wonderful crocus and snowdrop lawn Thomas - would like to do something similar but it might take a few years! We have a patch with crocus and later on narcissus and tulips like this but need to expand the vision.
This is a picture from Harris Howland's garden (Harris was chairman of the Lily Group for a long time) taken a few days ago when the sun was shining! A small garden but packed with colour. The crocus especially and eranthis were buzzing with bees.
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One sunny day in Germany - but temperatures not above 7°C - was enough to open the first Crocus flowers in my garden. The first flowers came out 6 weeks ago, but have never opened so far (Crocus sieberi Firefly - the blue spot in the middle of the first photo)
-023 view over my lawn
-034 last year I selected some chrysanthus hybrids from the lawn and replanted them in the rockgarden-bed
-056 do I have to worry about the amount of Galanthus in my crocus-garden ???
-051 chysanthus Blue Peter in flower and Spring Pearl coming out
-012 versicolor and chrysanthus hybrids mixed
Your lawn has recovered magnificently from the black late frost of a few years ago Hubi !!
Looks gorgeous !
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Slow with me but is a favourite tommy Eric Smith. Usually they have 8 petal/sepals but one has 10
Also some herbertii
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Thomas,
Beautiful crocus and snowdrop lawn - congratulation!
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Wonderful show of crocus and galanthus Thomas.
Slow with me but is a favourite tommy Eric Smith. Usually they have 8 petal/sepals but one has 10
Ian, I can see why this is a favourite tommy, super.
Crocus sieberi ss. nivalis from seeds sown 2010 flowering for the first time on a raised bed. Quite a variation of colours.
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Great to see your snowdrop lawn, Thomas. You need to weed out all the yellow and purple things though. ::)
Or maybe - how about more yellow things, some narcissus perhaps?
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..You need to weed out all the yellow and purple things though. ::) ....
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Luc: Yes, my lawn is doing very well with the surviving plants and the best is:
I can be sure that these plants are now well adapted to my climate :D
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Stunning pictures Thomas. I hope to have the same result in a couple of years!
Here some crocusses of today:
Crocus malyi with blue flower tube
Crocus malyi CEH 519 with yellow flower tube
Crocus sieberii ssp. sieberii
Crocus angustifolius 'Berlin Gold'
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a nice gift of a good friend: Crocus vernus 'Balkan White'. A virgin white crocus
Crocus rujanensis
Crocus pestalozzae ssp. coerulea
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nice pictures from all,
here some today in my garden:
Crocus aerius
'' baytopiorum
'' caelestis
'' cvijicii
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and more,
Crocus napolitanus
'' flavus
'' paschei
'' mixed sieberi and sublimis
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nice pictures from all,
here some today in my garden:
Crocus aerius
'' baytopiorum
'' caelestis
'' cvijicii
:o Very compact and wel grown Dirk . Even that baytopiorum is very compact. Ofcourse also aerius and cvijicii are among my favorites ....
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Very few sun this week, almost raining each day but some Crocus are flowering.
Crocus chrysanthus 'Jurpils'
Crocus chrysanthus 'Charmer' from Janis
Crocus vernus x 'Fantasy'
Crocus x leonidii 'Little Amber'