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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: mark smyth on January 22, 2015, 03:51:11 PM
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'Compton Court' V 'S. Arnott'. Do you think they are identical?
Today was the first day I was able to take photos again of the two snowdrops.
Which is which? Don't go by flower size because these are just two randomly picked flowers. One from the group of 'Compton Court' and one from 'S. Arnott'.
I know which is which but do you?
photo 1 = upper flower is flower 2, lower is flower 1
photo 2 = flower 1 on the left and flower 2 on the right
photo 3 = flower 1
photo 4 = flower 2
editing to add - I forgot to tell you flower 1 is S. Arnott and flower 2 is Compton Court
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Mark, is flower 2 S Arnott ? It seems to have a little longer ovary......
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I will now go and measure the ovaries but the difference may be down to the angle of the photo
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Mark - The mark on the well-documented 'Compton Court' here is more rounded, an inverted U-shape, than those you show. I can get a better picture if you need it, this was from a few days ago. It always flowers just after the reginae-olgaes and months before S. Arnott.
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They flower together here
One ovary is larger than the other but that's due to flower size. The largest has a larger ovary 11mm top to bottom. The smaller flower is 9mm top to bottom. These flowers were chosen randomly from each group
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John, I did not know that Compton Court flowers earlier then S.Arnott. My Compton Court is just up, and far way from flowering.
Mark, thank you for checking the ovary's. It seems there is no difference at all then.... Or it must be that John has a different one as we have. As his flowers much earlier.
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Under glass it notably surfaces just after the r-o's. Our flowering times don't follow normal patterns for whatever reason. All seem later than usual this year - under glass that is.
Mark just had a look at older pix and it seems that its mark is variable and has in some years matched yours. As here where it looks like yours:
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Compton Court is earlier here too.
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Looks the same to me - white with green bits.
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Compton Court is earlier here too.
How much earlier?
I think I'll move both to the warmer front garden and put a couple of each in the same pot and grow them in the green house
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'Compton Court' V 'S. Arnott'. Do you think they are identical?
Somebody has to say it - aren't most of them!
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Not the best two snowdrops to compare! Tony if they were more colourful, had stripes and spots and a beautiful red stigma then they would have a following all around the world ;) Croconut or galanthophile :-\ I remember a wonderful visit to Chris Brickell's garden which brought together both of these plants-people, and when you see these plants together in the garden along with Cyclamen coum, Iris reticulata and hellebores there is something magical which a lot more gardeners might pick up on :D
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I'm with Tim, what better sight in the new year than a mixed planting of 'drops, Cyclamen and Eranthis under a witch hazel perhaps?
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Not the best two snowdrops to compare! Tony if they were more colourful, had stripes and spots and a beautiful red stigma then they would have a following all around the world ;) Croconut or galanthophile :-\ I remember a wonderful visit to Chris Brickell's garden which brought together both of these plants-people, and when you see these plants together in the garden along with Cyclamen coum, Iris reticulata and hellebores there is something magical which a lot more gardeners might pick up on :D
Even better when you see them in the wild although the iris would be missing-Lake Abant.
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I'm with Tim, what better sight in the new year than a mixed planting of 'drops, Cyclamen and Eranthis under a witch hazel perhaps?
;)
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Anne...that is a winter garden to behold...thank you for the lovely photo. Rick
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What a happy sight. You've made me smile on a grey Hebridean day, Anne. Thanks.
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The photo is from last year, they are not all open yet. I look forward to that bed every winter.
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I took the liberty of sharing Anne's photo on Twitter, where it hasbeen much admired - no wonder- just the thing to cheer anyone, I reckon!
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a question:
If anyone has Compton Court to give away so I would like to try it again - I grow this plant earlier but in this terrible winter of 2012/2013 I have lost this.
I have also S.Arnott but that does not grow very well for me ... maybe Compton Court is really better?
Certainly I find a good swap offer - I'd like 2 -3 Comton Court
Please send me a PM
Hans
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I'll check my Compton Court tomorrow
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I forgot to tell you flower 1 is S. Arnott and flower 2 is Compton Court
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Now that the flowers have been out two weeks or more I plan to redo the photos. This time I will select the tallest and largest flower from each group. I'll also take an inner from each flower for a side by side photo
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a question:
If anyone has Compton Court to give away so I would like to try it again - I grow this plant earlier but in this terrible winter of 2012/2013 I have lost this.
I have also S.Arnott but that does not grow very well for me ... maybe Compton Court is really better?
Certainly I find a good swap offer - I'd like 2 -3 Comton Court
Please send me a PM
Hans
Hans, here they are in my garden, photographed yesterday. Their passports are ready and they will travel to Germany when you say so.
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Hi Paddy ,
many thanks for your friendly offer ....but two friendly souls have promised me enough bulbs of Compton Court
Great Picture ! ....I hope they will grow similar in my garden ?
Ooops ...snowdrops needs passports ?
We are both inside of EU ;D
Hans
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Good, all fine with you so.
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'Compton Court' and 'S. Arnott' - I've forgotten which is which ::) ;D
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Compton Court is 1 or 2 weeks earlier then S Arnott and grows a lot better then S Arnott too. Besides that it does never show any infection by Stag like S Arnoot does!
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Somebody has to say it - aren't most of them!
Wow a fellow Lancashire Droppy - didn't think they existed - thought it was only us in this neck of the woods - pleased to meet you