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Title: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Oakwood on January 17, 2015, 12:23:29 PM
So, just a question on a final naming of snowdrop found some years ago here in Ukraine. Does this proposed name reflect a whole appearance and a mood of this cultivar?  ???
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: emma T on January 17, 2015, 12:34:35 PM
Yes  :-*
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: Maggi Young on January 17, 2015, 01:11:05 PM
Certainly , yes - I nearly ate it!
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: snowdropcollector on January 17, 2015, 01:37:46 PM
Good name picking  :D, it is a good choice for this snowdrop !
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: Richard Williams on January 17, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
Great name and great find. But it isn't,  how can I say this tactfully..... the best looking snowdrop I've ever seen. I'm sure there would be a cue of people lining up to get their hands on this little oddity but is a bit too 'different' for me. It must have been great discovering this though and bringing it into cultivation.
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 17, 2015, 01:58:34 PM
Certainly the most suitable name for this one.  Nobody could dispute that - surely?
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: johnw on January 17, 2015, 02:03:35 PM
Now I have to disagree.  The name was well-suited whilst the plant was in the wild but I'm afraid in cultivation it is not living up to its name and frankly looks quite disheveled.  Is it possible it will do a turn around a return to its rather snappy appearance?

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: Carolyn Walker on January 17, 2015, 06:48:54 PM
Great name, just like a popped kernel of corn in the wild photos.  Were the cultivation photos of flowers that had started to go by?
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: Oakwood on January 17, 2015, 08:22:10 PM
Great name, just like a popped kernel of corn in the wild photos.  Were the cultivation photos of flowers that had started to go by?

the last two photos made in my garden one year after finding
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on January 17, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
funny name, well done Oaky  ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: annew on January 18, 2015, 08:44:49 AM
Ye gods, a split-corona snowdrop! Popcorn is just the correct name.
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn"
Post by: Oakwood on January 18, 2015, 08:51:01 AM
okey! thanks to all!  8) accepted!
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Oakwood on January 18, 2015, 08:56:07 AM
and one more poll, how about this finding G. nivalis "Chuhayster" ? (chuhayster - in the Ukrainian Carpathian epos it is a wood goblin). I think this one also really differs from traditional snowdrop flower form concept  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 18, 2015, 09:46:56 AM
I think this one also really differs from traditional snowdrop flower form concept  ;D ;D

I think you are, unfortunately, correct Dimi
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: chasw on January 18, 2015, 10:09:29 AM
Now that I like ................................................and no doubt Emma will also ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: emma T on January 18, 2015, 10:30:03 AM
Ha ha ha you called !

And yes I do love it  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Rick Goodenough on January 18, 2015, 11:40:04 AM
Dimi,

I like your popcorn drop, 'Popcorn' as it appears in the wild, and this nivalis 'Chuhayster' is a delight to my eye. I also noted the presence of what appears to be pollen on one of the photos.

If this is considered a green spikey, then it seems to have at least two distinctives, one being very green and the second that it appears to bear pollen. This 'Chuhayster' seems to have replaced its petal flower segments with something half akin to leaves, a bit hard to tell, but I am curious about your own observations on these "petals". Curious if they persist longer as a leaf might or if they collapse in about the same time as would a typical flower?  A terrific find.
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Carolyn Walker on January 18, 2015, 03:32:02 PM
I think you are, unfortunately, correct Dimi

Wood goblin seems too benign and even cute.  Perhaps it should be named the Ukranian word for a changeling: "an ugly or strange child left by fairies in place of a pretty, charming child."  However, I hasten to add that I would grow it  :D.
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: johnw on January 18, 2015, 03:51:32 PM
Oh that one's a cracker!

johnw - +3c after a cold night & 1" of rain on the way
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Oakwood on January 18, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
Dimi,

I like your popcorn drop, 'Popcorn' as it appears in the wild, and this nivalis 'Chuhayster' is a delight to my eye. I also noted the presence of what appears to be pollen on one of the photos.

If this is considered a green spikey, then it seems to have at least two distinctives, one being very green and the second that it appears to bear pollen. This 'Chuhayster' seems to have replaced its petal flower segments with something half akin to leaves, a bit hard to tell, but I am curious about your own observations on these "petals". Curious if they persist longer as a leaf might or if they collapse in about the same time as would a typical flower?  A terrific find.

Rick, it's stable morpha, all springs it appears like this, I suppose it should be a phytoplasmosis, so why we have phyllodes instead of normal perianth segments....
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Gerard Oud on February 04, 2015, 08:58:13 AM
Are you sure you did not find these a 100km from Kiev! :o
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: Rick Goodenough on February 04, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
Dimi,

Thank you for your response...I hope the "in the wild popcorn look" returns. Best, Rick
Title: Re: Galanthus graecus "Popcorn" and Galanthus nivalis "Chuhayster"
Post by: colineddie1 on February 12, 2015, 06:40:36 PM
Both are amazing and would be highly treasured in everyones collection - personally I live spikey drops and green ones so that's a double tick and as for popcorn - love it and so aptly named.

Well done in your finds - please keep the photo's coming they are brilliant.
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