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Title: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 01, 2014, 11:38:00 AM


Oh, the autumn season starts very slowly in the Scotch forum.
But why? Nobody likes G peshmenii in UK?


Scotch? ;)
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on October 01, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
Scotch? ;)

Ah, the English language causing more problems! 
Anthony's wink  ;)  is because in Scotland only Whisky and Tomatoes are traditionally called "Scotch"  - the people are Scots, this forum, while truly international, might, having its base in Scotland, be called a Scots forum - or a Scottish Forum - what can I tell you, Hagen -  our language is full of such traps for innocents abroad!
Think of how we can say  dough, rough and bough......  ( doh,  ruff and bow !) ;D ;D We're a crazy gang, for sure!
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Alan_b on October 01, 2014, 02:03:16 PM
because in Scotland only Whisky and Tomatoes are traditionally called "Scotch" 

Eggs, pancakes, tape, broth and bonnet also spring to mind.
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on October 01, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
Well, yes, Alan - but it was others who gave those things the name, not Scots - I think we traditionally only acknowledge the whisky and tomatoes since we produce  quite a lot of them for sale!
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnw on October 01, 2014, 02:49:42 PM
Hop too.
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on October 01, 2014, 03:22:37 PM
Hop too.
I give up.

So much for helping Hagen understand what Anthony was on about..... :-\
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnw on October 01, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Ooops missed your posted just seconds before. Where's the blush smiley?
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 01, 2014, 07:23:16 PM
Scotch eggs were invented in London by Fortnum and Mason.
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Matt T on October 01, 2014, 07:43:04 PM
Scotch eggs were invented in London by Fortnum and Mason.

Not sure that I like the sound of a Manchester egg  :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_egg#Regional_variations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_egg#Regional_variations)
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on October 01, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
Scotch eggs were invented in London by Fortnum and Mason.
I'm not surprised you knew that, Ralph - I believe they go quite well with a good pint?
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 01, 2014, 10:48:52 PM
True, but I am more likely to consume one as a walking lunch, preferably on top of a Munro.
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 02, 2014, 04:20:32 AM
We have Scotch fillet steak here, but it's rib eye by another name.
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 02, 2014, 12:02:20 PM
The RHS Index of Garden Plants lists Scotch Asphodel, Scotch-Attorney, Scotch Broom, Scotch Heather, Scotch Laburnum, Scotch Marigold, Scotch Moss, Scotch Rose and Scotch Thistle, Also Scot Lovage, Scots Lovage, Scots Heather, Scots Pine, Scottish Flame Flower, and Scottish Maple!
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on October 02, 2014, 12:19:07 PM
Goodness me- it's horrifying how many uses there are  in English of a word that is  so seldom used by the Scots themselves. I'd like, once  more, to scotch the rumour that Scots are in the habit of using such terms!
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 02, 2014, 12:26:14 PM
Goodness me- it's horrifying how many uses there are  in English of a word that is  so seldom used by the Scots themselves. I'd like, once  more, to scotch the rumour that Scots are in the habit of using such terms!

Good one!
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: emma T on October 02, 2014, 07:28:25 PM
Can not stand scotch eggs  :-X ewwwwww
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 05, 2014, 02:39:03 AM
Goodness me- it's horrifying how many uses there are  in English of a word that is  so seldom used by the Scots themselves. I'd like, once  more, to scotch the rumour that Scots are in the habit of using such terms!

Quite so. At school in Stirling we called the game of "Hop Scotch" peever, because the shoe tin filled with gravel used was called a peever.
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Steve Garvie on October 05, 2014, 09:12:26 AM
Quite so. At school in Stirling we called the game of "Hop Scotch" peever, because the shoe tin filled with gravel used was called a peever.

In Fife it goes by the name of Pauldies and in its original Pictish form was played with Roman heads.
(Rumour has it that late on a Saturday night the lost IXth can still be seen staggering about the High Street in Cowdenbeath!).  :o
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 05, 2014, 06:39:04 PM
In Fife it goes by the name of Pauldies and in its original Pictish form was played with Roman heads.
(Rumour has it that late on a Saturday night the lost IXth can still be seen staggering about the High Street in Cowdenbeath!).  :o
Headless? Or just legless?
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 05, 2014, 06:43:01 PM
And while we are on this subject; we all know that Scotch is whisky. Except in Belgium, where it is beer!

From Wikipedia: "These sweet, heavy-bodied brown ales represent a style which originated in the British Isles. The Caledonian theme is usually heavily emphasized with tartan and thistles appearing on labels. Examples include Gordon's, Scotch de Silly and Achouffe McChouffe".
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 06, 2014, 09:13:52 PM
Scotch maybe whisky to the rest of the world, but you wouldn't call it that in Scotland.
Title: Re: Diversion from Galanthus in September 2014
Post by: Alan_b on October 07, 2014, 03:55:36 PM
The 'Usage' section here http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Scottish#Scottish__11 (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Scottish#Scottish__11) has a a good explanation of what word to use - but if unsure then "Scottish" is undoubtedly the safest bet, as in Scottish Rock Garden Club, for example.  I was interested to read that Robert Burns and Walter Scott were happy to use the term Scotch so the modern aversion to the term is not a long-established tradition.
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