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Title: Garden record keeping
Post by: Jupiter on August 01, 2014, 10:24:47 AM
Does anyone else keep notes and lists of plants like I do? I have the advantage of being at the beginning of my plant collecting life, and moving house and establishing a new garden was the perfect opportunity to start with a list of all the species I grow. As well as names I keep records where the specimens originated from, flowering dates etc. I find it a nice way to help teach myself the names, plus I add Family and even Order which helps with learning the relationships. Many of you will probably be raising your eyebrows at this but I think it will be useful in the future, not only to me but to others interested in my collection. Maintaining records is not difficult and it's even a pleasure, researching a new plant, adding it to the list and familiarising ones self with climate and conditions in its natural habitat can only help with finding a micro-climate niche in the garden and keeping it alive.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Alan_b on August 01, 2014, 10:36:33 AM
I keep a 'Garden Diary' to record major garden activities and I try to record the names of anything new that I plant (in case the label gets lost).  I also take lots of photographs, particularly of bulbs so I can try to avoid accidentally digging them up when dormant.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Jupiter on August 01, 2014, 11:00:43 AM

Yes the photographs are essential and act as a diary of sorts too. Alan, how long have you been keeping the diary?
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 01, 2014, 11:29:18 AM
Hi Jamus,
How do you keep your records? Electronically? Can you add the pics to the text?
Being very last century I keep records in "hard copy" diaries and also seed-lists in exercise books with details of source, number of seeds sown, when sown, when the first seedlings emerge (or when they are noticed!) if/when the first flowers open and the progress of the plant, i.e. whether they survive, thrive or die out.
Since I also write a monthly article in our AGS Vic Group newsletter I have a record going back to 2005 about the garden here, albeit only the "good bits" ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Jupiter on August 01, 2014, 11:47:35 AM

Hi Fermi,
Yes I use an excel spreadsheet which I find easiest. I haven't been recording seeds sown but that's something I should be doing... I can add pictures to the text but I haven't done that yet.

Is it true you're a neighbour of Otto, fermi?
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 01, 2014, 12:10:53 PM

Is it true you're a neighbour of Otto, fermi?
Yes, he's just 2 & 1/2 hours down the road ;D
We're both in the AGS Victorian Group and the FCHS so see each other twice a month at meetings.
Since first meeting him at FCHS Rock Garden Group I've received many plants, especially bulbs, from Otto - he's always been very generous :D
Apart from paper records I try to have accurate info on all labels, particularly on seedpots; I remember when I first started growing "rare" bulbs and thought I could remember the source, etc. It only took the "sudden" appearance of something I'd completely forgotten about to make me realise that I couldn't!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Alan_b on August 01, 2014, 12:26:59 PM
I have been trying to keep a 'Garden Diary' since 2002; which is the year I got my first digital camera.  However I have not always been conscientious with my record keeping.  If I have been very busy in the garden I sometimes have to make a real effort to find the time and energy to also keep the records up to date
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: angie on August 01, 2014, 12:33:11 PM
Since I also write a monthly article in our AGS Vic Group newsletter I have a record going back to 2005 about the garden here, albeit only the "good bits" ;D


Fermi I Love that bit  ;D  I would hate to keep a record of my plants, would hate to see how many lovely plants that I have killed over the twenty years of gardening, Oh its more like 35 years, boy I am getting old.
I do keep a record of my South African bulbs and things like that.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Jupiter on August 01, 2014, 12:35:36 PM
Ah yes, judging by the speed my collection is growing now I can well imagine that in a few years I'll be in the same position. So far I'm doing a fair job at remembering sources and I always label full binomial names and dates. Working in research for donkey's years has instilled some good habits which come home with me.

You don't need to tell me how generous Otto can be fermi. I found that out first hand. I only wish there were more people like him on this planet and less of the other kind... It certainly inspires me to take a leaf from his book and help out fellow enthusiasts when I meet them.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Matt T on August 01, 2014, 01:13:25 PM
Does anyone else keep notes and lists of plants like I do? ... Many of you will probably be raising your eyebrows at this ...

Glad to hear I'm not the only one. I keep adding columns:

Genus
Section
Species
Sub-species
Variety
Cultivar/Collection number
Number purchased
Price
Supplier
Name supplied under (if different to the accepted name)
Any other comments (i.e. source, habitat, special treatment etc)
Then a column for each year to record the number of bulbs at repotting time / when pots are split / death of a plant (thankfully rare)

I'm thinking that I should now devise a system to give each pot a unique number as I'm starting to split bulbs that I originally had in small numbers into several pots. So, that will be another column, but I think this will be important because I have many plants from different collections/sources and it would be nice to keep track of their life history.

I have a separate sheet for bulb seeds sown including a similar range of information, and including sowing date, first germination date etc.

There is another sheet for non-bulbous plants and seed sown.

Also, a plant/seed wish list sheet with columns for each supplier so I can compare prices etc!

Next up will be a sheet to record info on my own hybridisation efforts...

My handwriting is too untidy to keep a hard diary and I like the flexibility of being able to change my records by adding/shuffling columns etc. 
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Otto Fauser on August 02, 2014, 07:27:23 AM
I have kept records since 1959 (pre computer age )which now fill 2 thick books , which list all bulbs and corms either grown from seed received from private collectors ,various Botanic Gardens and Seed Exchanges overseas and bulbs/corms acquired in Australia or imported from private growers and nurseries in England and Europe .

     Over the years many have gone to greener pastures but I think it will prove a valuable record in what year some very rare plants have reached these shores for the first time .  Hope someone will look after those records after I'm gone.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Palustris on August 02, 2014, 08:50:15 AM
Check this program out.
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/ (http://www.ideasforgardens.net/)
Really useful tool for any gardener who wants to keep records electonically.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: arillady on August 02, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
Yes I am still in the hard copy phase for my plants bought or received, seeds etc.
The book of plants has so many that have gone to greener pastures.
I started with roses and gave them a number so that I could have a pencil drawing of the garden and where everything was growing. I still try to record the order of seedlings when I plant them out. sometimes this has been missed and then I am in a pickle if rabbits or birds move labels.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Graeme on August 02, 2014, 10:40:18 AM
used to keep an excel data base with every plant I had bought - its price and where it came from

what became evident after a few years is where you do and don't buy plants from  - and a big bucket of plant labels from a few nurseries

just don't have the time now to keep it up to date - but very interesting whilst I had it to analyse what I had spent - where things had come from etc. 
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: rgc on August 02, 2014, 11:14:26 AM
Hi
I have created a Word document into which I add new purchases with a brief description and picture from the web. (Only for my own viewing and so I assume that I am not breaking any copyright rules.) Am replacing the web pictures gradually with my own photos taken in the garden, but I am behind schedule with this. The list in the Word document is organised alphabetically.

Being a novice, I also take pictures of areas of the garden and add the names of the plants (as labels can get lost) to help me learn the names. An example of a primula bed is attached.
Bob
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: jomowi on August 02, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
Interesting to compare notes with others keeping plant records.  My spreadsheet is less comprehensive than some, but here are one or two things I include which have not been mentioned so far:

If a plant dies, I change the colour of the row to red.  This way I keep track of it and if I get a replacement, I change the colour back to black.

Likewise, if I plant any spare seedlings directly into the open ground (as well as potting some up), I colour the row green.  It is easier then to keep track of them (particularly after a winter when I have forgotten all about them) to see whether they have establised or not. If they have, then I change the colour to black.

I also number my beds (mentally) and have a column for recording the bed number a plant is put in.  When I have forgotten a plant’s name (frequently!) this helps to locate it from the spreadsheet especially if its label has got lost/faded/overgrown.

If I go to a Nursery or Show, I take a print-out of my spreadsheet.  It helps to avoid buying a plant you later discover you already have!

Finally, when I moved house, I left a spreadsheet print-out behind for the new owners (SRGC members) and started a fresh one for my new garden.  The old one is useful for reminding me of plant names I have long since forgotten and has helped me to help the friends in my old house when they come asking for and ID of any plants they inherited for which they can’t find the name.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Matt T on August 02, 2014, 11:42:45 AM
Here is some useful guidance from Glasnevin BG re cataloguing and record keeping in plant collections:

http://plantnetwork.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/5072/records.pdf
 (http://plantnetwork.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/5072/records.pdf)
Particularly useful guidance on accession numbers.
Title: Re: Garden record keeping
Post by: Jupiter on August 02, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
Maureen I use a red line for a dead plant too, especially if it's something I plan to replace.
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