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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Tony Willis on July 07, 2014, 03:00:26 PM
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here are three of mine in flower today
Lilium canadense again from seed from John
Lilium bakerianum
Lilium amoenum
The new names on liliums seem to be proliferating as fast as the new crocus species,
No germination on my L. henrici seed yet so hopefully next spring
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Superb lilies Tony!
Amoenum is a wee cracker!!!
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Most of our L. henryi seedlings are a washed-out orange. This one takes the 38c heat well without fading.
Cardiocrinum cordatum looking good in the heat too. :)
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Interesting hypothesis, Bjornar! In her email, Chen Yi stated that the lily shown was from SE-Tibet. I don't know if L. huidongense grows there.
However: when I bought the bulbs, they turned out to be L. taliense or L. duchartrei (...don't know how to separate these from each other).
Unfortunately with Chen Yi it is always a "Life is like a box of choclate....."-game. I guess about 30% of the catalogue is not what it should be. So I'm still hoping to meet the real L-123 one day.
The area where I collected L. henrici is very close to SE Tibet, we're talking a couple of hours drive, so it seems very likely that it occurs there too.
You misunderstood me slightly, what I meant to say is that the pictures of L. henrici on the web may in fact be L. huidongense, especially those from cultivated material. Chen Yi's husband served in the military in Liangshan (to which Huidong belongs), so a lot of her plants are dug up in that very area - including all the Lilium lijiangense she's supplied over the years. Note that the key in Flora of China says L. henrici is white flowered, while L. hudongense is pale red.
I'm heading to Huidong in a day or two, so keep your fingers crossed!
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The new names on liliums seem to be proliferating as fast as the new crocus species,
With the one exception of L. yapingense most of these species were described in the 60ies and 70ies, so I'm not sure they'd qualify as young... Fantastic L. bakerianum, by the way!
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The yellow Asiatic type lily I got from Chen Yi many years ago seems to be dauricum. It is identical to the yellow forms I raised from seed I got from Berkutenko just as many years back. That said, it was never one of the "images" that I selected for purchase, but was a lily I got nonetheless.
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Lilium lankongense
this came from Chen yi as L48 pink duchartrei
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Can anyone put a name to this Lily?
It is like a daintier L. pardalinum, much shorter and smaller flowered.
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The diminutive Lilium formosanum var. pricei.
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Hello all super pictures, we have a few Liliums in flower just now mega thunder storm last night a bit worried the flowers would get drowned, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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My Lilium leichtlinii is just coming into flower. Quite a few unopened buds as you can see. It certainly makes a remarkably stately and impressive plant.
Bob
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Some lilies flowering here at the moment. They all have something in common in that they never stay where you plant them but tend to run about.
Lilium deucartrei
Lilium palperiferrum
Lilium wardii
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Beautiful Lilium pics, and your Lilium canadense is a real gem, Tony ;)
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Very nice Susan
Four of mine today
Lilium papilliferum
Lilium auratum
Lilium brownii
Lilium chalcedonicum
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Very nice Susan
Four of mine today
Lilium papilliferum
Lilium auratum
Lilium brownii
Lilium chalcedonicum
very nice lily, tony
and I like the L. papilliferum very much
but I don't think that is L. brownii because L. brownii seems to be white or green filaments
I think it might be close to L. sargentiae or L. leucanthum
and about the L. auratum,
it might be L. auratum var. virginale or L. platyphyllum because it is spotless
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Lilium speciosum var. clivorum
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Hi Dick thank you for your comments. i do think it is L. brownii,it does not produce bulbils (sargentiae) and has greenish filaments which is correct.
very lovely L. speciosum,they do not flower here for another two months.
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a few july lilies from here
lilium formosanum pricei, lilium papilliferum and lilium bakerianum, recieved as aureum, but I think it is closer to delavayi...
Pontus
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Wonderful Speciosum, Dick - seems somewhat similar to L. speciosum var. gloriosoides. Especially because of the strongly waved edges of the petals! I wish I had this in my collection!
Great plants, Pontus!
Not only the flowering lilies deserve some Attention, also the small ones....
Here is my best seedtray for this year: Lilium nobilissimum (about 100 seeldings).
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Hi Dick thank you for your comments. i do think it is L. brownii,it does not produce bulbils (sargentiae) and has greenish filaments which is correct.
very lovely L. speciosum,they do not flower here for another two months.
Hi Tony
here are the photos of my L. brownii and L. leucanthum in the previous year.
these two lilium bulbs come from the same place(yichan).
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some photos of my lilium in the previous months
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the other lilium
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just received this little plant last week
Lilium sargentiae with white edge on leaves
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1. Some lilies flowering earlier this month
2. Lilies grown from seed donated to the SRGC seedex in 2009 by Ray McNamara in Tasmania (has any other forum member flowered lilies from this donation?)
3. I think these could be 'African Queen' Strain. They were grown from seed from Chiltern and should have been Oriental Hybrids.
4. One bulb took longer to flower and is an Oriental Hybrid
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Is Ray McNamara still hybridising lilies? I can no longer find his website.
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Oddly enough, you posted just after Dick C's pictures last year too, Roma, about these lovely McNamara lilies : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10022.msg281003#msg281003 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10022.msg281003#msg281003)
This link from another forum last year suggests that Ray McNamara's site will not return : http://allthingsplants.com/thread/view/19004/sparrasnest-com/ (http://allthingsplants.com/thread/view/19004/sparrasnest-com/)
Perhaps some of the Tasmanians can tell us more?
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Thanks, Maggi. I am very pleased with my lilies and would have liked the chance to try some others.
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I am enjoying all the lilies being shown here.
Roma, I'm not surprised you are happy with those huge beauties - they are stunning.
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Lilium poilanei , very nicely scented
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Tony, it is always a pleasure for me to see your perfectly cultivated lilies on photos that underline their beauty in such a tasteful way - Chapeau!
I just have one question - since you seem to be dedicated to lilies also....
Are there any visible differences so as to decide between L. duchartrei and L. taliense?
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thank you,I am glad you enjoy them.As to the question I have not grown Lilium taliense and so am not able to make a comparison. Pictures I have seen look very similar but then I do favour lumping.
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When you grow both you can tell the difference although they perhaps look the same from photos. Dare I say lilium deucartrei looks coarser and taliense more refined. Taliense can also have a shading of pale lemon. Here is what I have as taliense, 1st picture and deucartrei 2nd
Susan
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Nice polanei tony
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Here are two lilies flowering in my garden at the moment, the first I think maybe L.henryi, but I'm not sure, the label disappeared long ago. The second is L. philippinense, this is a tender lily in the UK, I overwinter mine in it's pot in the greenhouse. It's worth the hassle when you are rewarded with flowers like these. I have had it two years now and have last year and this the lily beetles leave it alone, but attack my other lilies, not that I'm complaining.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3865/14929290515_61d8773ff2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oKfvWB)IMG_0065.JPG (https://flic.kr/p/oKfvWB) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3888/14742656539_a736262890_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/osKYar)IMG_0077.JPG (https://flic.kr/p/osKYar) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
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Can anyone put a name to this Lily?
It is like a daintier L. pardalinum, much shorter and smaller flowered.
if everything seems a bit squashed as in short filaments, flattened flower etc.
it could be lilium pardalinum var. shastensis form North California
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if everything seems a bit squashed as in short filaments, flattened flower etc.
it could be lilium pardalinum var. shastensis form North California
Rimmer,
From what I have seen in the wild, my own garden, and your photograph, your lily could be var. shastensis. Are the flowers smaller than what you normally see with L. paralinum var. pardalinum? I'm certainly no authority on this, so hopefully someone will have a definitive answer for you.
In my experience, the native pardalinum type lilies in NW California can be very confusing. At times it seems that every mountain, or ridge has something different. It appears to me that a fair amount of natural hybridizing and gradation is going on. This is when is wish that Wayne Rodrick was still with us. I would ask him.