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Title: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on July 01, 2014, 07:56:17 PM
Kurt Vickery's new Monocot Bulb list is attached - enjoy!

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Title: Kurt Vickery - new SEED list August 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on September 01, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
Kurt has a new seedlist out - be quick- some items are in short supply - he will give updates if you contact him.

N. B. both the following links contain  exactly the same list of seeds - it is simply a question of which file format you prefer to open - no need to open them both.

[attachurl=1] as a word doc.

[attachurl=2] as a pdf
Title: Kurt Vickery - new Seed list September 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on September 29, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
Kurt Vickery - new Seed  list  September 2014 - attached below
Note from Kurt:
" Dear bulb enthusiasts,
Please find attached my latest seed list
Please note that I will be working in Greece 7th October -1st November and won’t be able to process any orders during that time. I will process and post all orders received before 6th October

Many thanks,

Kurt"

Seedlist September 2014  : [attachurl=1]
Title: Kurt Vickery - new Seed list 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on August 12, 2015, 02:07:23 PM
Kurt Vickery's new  seed list - some items in very short supply- contact him if in doubt.

 [attachurl=1] for list in pdf 

[attachurl=2 ]   for list as word doc   ( both lists are identical)
Title: Kurt Vickery - seed lists 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on November 07, 2015, 08:34:33 PM

Here are Kurt Vickery's latest  Kazakh seed list and stock update from his main list of earlier in the year   

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Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: YT on November 08, 2015, 03:00:15 AM
Thank you for uploading the latest list, Maggi :)
I'd like to order some seed to him but I cannot find his e-mail address.
Do I have to make a contact with him by postal mail at the first time ordering?
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Janette on November 08, 2015, 07:00:01 AM
It is on the 2014 seedlist in the link bleow on this thread. J
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: YT on November 08, 2015, 08:09:41 AM
Thank you, Janette :)
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on November 08, 2015, 12:08:29 PM
Kurt sometimes even forgets to add his postal address!  His email  is kvickery67ATbtinternet.com - replacing the AT with @
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: YT on November 08, 2015, 12:48:07 PM
Thank you, Maggi :) I send him my order later.
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 09, 2015, 08:38:22 PM
Does anybody know what the final item on Kurt's list is? "KZ150 Syreitschukovia spinulosa  W Tien shan, Sairamsu". The genus is not found on Google.
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on November 10, 2015, 02:20:55 PM
Does anybody know what the final item on Kurt's list is? "KZ150 Syreitschukovia spinulosa  W Tien shan, Sairamsu". The genus is not found on Google.

  I asked Kurt - he has no idea other than it is a dicot.  Makes me wonder if it's  worth trying it just to find out!
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 10, 2015, 05:50:40 PM
That's my reaction too! Will have to put my investigators hat back on.
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Lewis Potter on November 10, 2015, 05:55:09 PM
That's my reaction too! Will have to put my investigators hat back on.

Where would you start if there are no google results.  :D. The Plant list maybe, but then that would come up in the google results.

Suppose you would have to grow it to find out anything.
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 10, 2015, 05:57:46 PM
I'm a trained investigator, Lewis. I'll report back if I find anything.
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Lewis Potter on November 10, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
I'm a trained investigator, Lewis. I'll report back if I find anything.

Aahh, I see, John, Good luck on your search.
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: WimB on November 10, 2015, 06:35:35 PM
Does anybody know what the final item on Kurt's list is? "KZ150 Syreitschukovia spinulosa  W Tien shan, Sairamsu". The genus is not found on Google.

You can find it on IPNI, family of the Asteraceae,  Serratula spinulosa
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on November 10, 2015, 07:00:15 PM
You can find it on IPNI, family of the Asteraceae,  Serratula spinulosa

 Fancy that - thanks Wim - how do you know it is the same plant? There do not seem to be notes of synonymy anywhere?
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Neil on November 10, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
Syreitschikovia spinulosa
Does anybody know what the final item on Kurt's list is? "KZ150 Syreitschukovia spinulosa  W Tien shan, Sairamsu". The genus is not found on Google.

I think the spelling should be Syreitschikovia spinulosa  which is in the plant list http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/gcc-137556 (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/gcc-137556)


a google image search gives 
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=syreitschikovia+spinulosa&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI1-_Cjc2GyQIVgkOQCh2hvA-k&biw=1366&bih=643 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=syreitschikovia+spinulosa&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI1-_Cjc2GyQIVgkOQCh2hvA-k&biw=1366&bih=643)

 W tien shan  is the  Tien Shan Mountain Range 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tien+Shan,+Wensu,+Aksu,+China/@41.999521,78.8793621,8z/data= (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tien+Shan,+Wensu,+Aksu,+China/@41.999521,78.8793621,8z/data=)!4m2!3m1!1s0x3862d128e40fb863:0x8be2b3853b89e54f?hl=en

and Sairamsu is Sairam Su Valley

http://kazakhstan.travel/en/attractions/attraction/612#map (http://kazakhstan.travel/en/attractions/attraction/612#map)

and on day 11 and 12 in this report

https://www.naturetrek.co.uk/reports_new/KAZ04_report_080401_Tulip_Meadows_of_Kazakhstan_The_Tien_Shan_Mountains.pdf (https://www.naturetrek.co.uk/reports_new/KAZ04_report_080401_Tulip_Meadows_of_Kazakhstan_The_Tien_Shan_Mountains.pdf) 

but I can't find it on a map 
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on November 10, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
Crikey- it's a thistle!
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 10, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
Well done Neil, got there before me!
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 10, 2015, 08:14:15 PM
It's in The Plant Book (Mabberley) as well.
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on November 10, 2015, 08:55:00 PM
What a clever lot you are - I'd never have managed to manipulate the spelling enough to get the answer! You fellows rock!  ;D
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Neil on November 10, 2015, 10:53:35 PM
What a clever lot you are - I'd never have managed to manipulate the spelling enough to get the answer! You fellows rock!  ;D

All  I did  is put the name in theplanlist.org search and delete the last letter one at a time, it comes up with suggestions once you get back to the beginning of a correct name .  Then you can normally see what the name should be  comparing to what you have too start with.

Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on November 11, 2015, 01:57:22 PM
Great tip, Neil, thanks!!
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 11, 2015, 03:17:28 PM
Most probably named for Russian botanist Nikolai Vasiliev Pavlov Syreitschikov (1893-1973).
Title: Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 13, 2015, 07:01:30 AM
Mmmm.
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