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Title: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Roma on June 04, 2014, 07:16:08 PM
Lilium carniolicum
Lilium albanicum
Lilium oxypetalum insigne
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 05, 2014, 01:27:23 AM
Roma,

Thank you for sharing the lovely lily photographs. In our part of California it is a bit hot for L. oxypetalum insgne. I keep trying. They are so beautiful.

Thanks for sharing. They look great!
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 13, 2014, 12:22:05 AM
Yes it is June  :o

Sometimes our lilies seed around the yard, sometimes the rodents drag them around. This Lilium regale came up and grew through our Magnolia stellata rosea. How it got there I will never know but it works for us!

I grew on some seedlings of 'White Henryi' x henryi many years ago. They are strong growers; taking drought, heat and everything else and they still bloom well every season.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: WimB on June 13, 2014, 09:07:02 AM
Lilium candidum
and Lilium philadelphum
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 16, 2014, 03:26:45 AM
Down in the Sacramento Valley at our valley home there is a giant Hydrangea macrophylla 'Isu No Hana'. When this Hydrangea was still small I planted some Lilium sagentiae seedlings near it. Clearly I wasn't thinking about how large the Hydrangea would grow. The lily has been dug and moved a few times with pieces remaining. Now a 3 meter lily stalk grows out of the top of this Hydrangea. The photograph is from a piece left from the last time I moved this lily. It is only 2 meters tall.

Lilium davidii is easy and long lived even in the hot Sacramento Valley.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: pontus on June 16, 2014, 10:00:12 PM
I have finally had sucess with some of my beloved dryland lilium sp! :) they love teh sun and heat we are having this summer, and some even flowered in may!

lilium kelleyanum, kelloggii and columbianum.

I also have a large bud on my humbolditii....:) :) more images will follow in teh next few days!

Pontus
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 17, 2014, 12:28:11 AM
Pontus,

Are your Lilium kelleyanum fragrant? Lilium kelleyanum grows in our area. I have to admit that I've never seen any that look like yours in our area. Were they grown from wild seed? If so, from what area of California did they come from? Around here, ours are much more orange-red. They are always fragrant.

Anyway, your lilies are beautiful, some with nice trusses! I hope that your L. humboldtii comes on to bloom. They are such a beautiful site.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: pontus on June 17, 2014, 11:07:59 PM
I cannot remember if they where fragrant, as they finished blooming about 10 days ago, but I think they had a slight fragrance.

do you have pictures of some kelleyanums from your area?

I purchased them from a nursery that had indeed grown them from californian seed originally.

in the whait for humbolditii, here are some more gems...the fabulous Derek Fox hybrid from kelloggii, 'Lake tulare', and also lilium wiginsii and a nice form of pardalinum giganteum as well as Canadense

Pontus
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 18, 2014, 03:18:24 AM
Pontus,

I do not have a photograph of Lilium kelleyanum. It would be interesting to know about yellow forms of L. kelleyanum. It is variable on the east side of the Sierras, so I would not be surprised to find out there are yellow forms. It would be no different than L. parvum that has pink and yellow forms or the gradation of L. pardalinum in the Marble Mountains as it changes to variety or subspecies wigginsii as one moves up the mountain.

Some day I must investigate the lilies on the east side of the Sierras. There is much going on over there with the lilies.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: ashley on June 18, 2014, 12:37:55 PM
Beautiful lilies Pontus.
I love the form of canadense.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Tony Willis on June 18, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
Lilium candidum in the wild-Macedonia last week
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: pontus on June 18, 2014, 09:34:35 PM
And here it is, in my opinion one of the most beautifull lilies in existance! Lilium humbolditii! :) ....

What a nice surprise it was to find this bloom open this morning!! :)

Pontus
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Geoforce on June 18, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
Pontus

Really like you photo od L. canadense.  Don't think I've ever encountered one with spots that widely spread.  I'm more familiar with the buff yellows with spots only in the throat.

Geo
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Roma on June 19, 2014, 09:06:08 PM
The Martagon lilies are coming into flower
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 20, 2014, 12:43:52 AM
An acceptable pink trumpet seedling to plant out into the garden next season.  :)

And more L. davidii. This must be their year. Not much variation in this batch of seedlings.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: SJW on June 20, 2014, 01:20:52 PM
I picked up a couple of bulbs of Lily 'Lankon' in a local garden centre because it looked interesting. Reading up on it, this hybrid was launched at Chelsea in 2011, bred from the Japanese species L. longiflorum and the Chinese species L. lankongense.

The longiflorum x lankongense cross was made possible through embryo rescue - the seed embryo is removed from the seed capsule and then grown on in agar solution as the seed does not contain enough endosperm to feed the emerging embryo to the cotyledon stage. Well, whatever they did - it works! It's tall and strong growing in a pot. Don't know how it'll fare out in the garden.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Tony Willis on June 23, 2014, 08:13:47 AM
three in flower now

Lily 'Red Russia'
Lily 'Orange Marmalade'
Lilium duchatrtrei
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 24, 2014, 01:31:29 PM
Lilium leichtlinii an easy grower for us. Doesn't mind the heat.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Tony Willis on June 27, 2014, 10:04:41 AM
Lilium michiganense.

The original seed came from John in Nova Scotia and has now built up ito a small group. It is a very elegant plant
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Robert on June 27, 2014, 01:45:21 PM
L. michiganense is one of my favorites.

Ours are from wild seed here in the U.S.A. and are more orange in color. For us, they seem to do well when they get into the ground - they don't like being in containers around here. I missed a photograph this season as they bloomed when my ankle was still healing. There is always next year.

Beautiful lilies! Thanks for sharing them.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on June 28, 2014, 10:26:05 PM
Lillium Martagon the first of my species lilies to flower, this lily is growing through a bleeding heart plant in a shady corner which suits both plants.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Roma on June 29, 2014, 03:36:16 PM
Lilium martagon

I started off with the white one and the dark cattaniae.  They have seeded all over the place in all shades of red and pink.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: ruweiss on June 29, 2014, 08:22:45 PM
Wow - Congratulations to these fine plants. They show how they like these
perfect conditions. When did you plant the first 2 bulbs?
The attached Lilies flowered for me until to the beginning of the last week.



Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: ian mcenery on June 30, 2014, 07:19:01 PM
Some nice and interesting lilies. Here a little one from me

C giganteum a self sown seedling
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Tony Willis on July 02, 2014, 05:09:04 PM
ian very nice,a lovely plant.

Lilium pardalinum
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on July 02, 2014, 08:27:55 PM
Green to envy when I see al those beautiful Liliums ....They do'nt seem to like my garden that much .
And I can not manage to keep the lily beetles away .... :-[
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 03, 2014, 04:09:12 PM
Guess what...  ;)
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: reifuan on July 03, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Guess what...  ;)
is it Lilium henrici? very elegant! I thought the flowers opened wider though
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: ian mcenery on July 03, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
ian very nice,a lovely plant.

Lilium pardalinum

Thank you Tony ;)
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Roma on July 03, 2014, 08:20:19 PM
Wow - Congratulations to these fine plants. They show how they like these
perfect conditions. When did you plant the first 2 bulbs?

Thanks, Rudi.
I think it was at least 20 years ago I had two pots of seedlings but I do not remember how many bulbs I planted.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 04, 2014, 01:45:38 AM
is it Lilium henrici? very elegant! I thought the flowers opened wider though

It is, and I was surprised too, although it was pouring down when the pictures were taken so they may open more in sunny weather. Also surprised they were all pure white, I didn't find any pink flowered plants, but will keep looking next year.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 05, 2014, 07:42:29 AM
For those of you not on Facebook: Lilium yapingense.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: ichristie on July 05, 2014, 08:22:15 AM
Superb picture everyone the Lilies at this time here are flowering well, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Steve Garvie on July 05, 2014, 08:24:43 AM
For those of you not on Facebook: Lilium yapingense.

A bonny wee thing!
Hopefully it will take to cultivation (and my garden!).

I recently saw a photograph of a new dwarf golden-yellow campanulate single flowered Tibetan lily -I wonder whether it will ever become available?
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Steve Garvie on July 05, 2014, 08:27:54 AM
Superb picture everyone the Lilies at this time here are flowering well, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Some wonderful flowers and nice images Ian!!!
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on July 05, 2014, 10:51:48 AM
Superb picture everyone the Lilies at this time here are flowering well, cheers Ian the Christie kind.

Very beautiful Ian . Specially like L. grayi ! 
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: ichristie on July 05, 2014, 07:16:49 PM
Hi again, we had a monsoon rain fall last night just great everything so dry, another super lily, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 05, 2014, 11:17:35 PM
A bonny wee thing!
Hopefully it will take to cultivation (and my garden!).

I recently saw a photograph of a new dwarf golden-yellow campanulate single flowered Tibetan lily -I wonder whether it will ever become available?

They grew in soaking wet peat bogs, so pick a moist spot! I heard about the yellow lily from Tibet, but I haven't seen the picture, would you by any chance have a digital copy? I assume it's not L. euxanthum?
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Steve Garvie on July 05, 2014, 11:35:39 PM
They grew in soaking wet peat bogs, so pick a moist spot! I heard about the yellow lily from Tibet, but I haven't seen the picture, would you by any chance have a digital copy? I assume it's not L. euxanthum?

Here is a link to the yellow Tibetan Lilly: http://www.canursery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=505 (http://www.canursery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=505)

Is this euxanthum?
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 06, 2014, 12:00:36 AM
Here is a link to the yellow Tibetan Lilly: http://www.canursery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=505 (http://www.canursery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=505)

Is this euxanthum?

Oh, that's L. medogense. Yijia is growing it in Beijing, but it hasn't set seeds for him yet. Only Chinese are allowed to visit Medog, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Steve Garvie on July 06, 2014, 01:01:52 PM
Some Sino-Himalayan lilies recently in flower here:


Lilium bakerianum var. delavayi
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2919/14583136401_667a529434_o.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2935/14606552603_1f57ca221a_o.jpg)


Lilium nepalense
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/14585737352_9cc9c0d619_o.jpg)


Lilium nanum
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2919/14606552303_faacef9ae0_o.jpg)


Lilium xanthellum var. luteum
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3893/14585736362_2e8cf3c215_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: ichristie on July 06, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
Hello Steve you Liliums are superb really like  L. bakerianum  cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 06, 2014, 05:40:13 PM
I can only agree with Ian, superb pictures. However, that L. xanthellum v. luteum must be misidentified, it's an asiatic hybrid - nothing like the species: http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027752 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027752)
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Steve Garvie on July 06, 2014, 10:32:36 PM
I can only agree with Ian, superb pictures. However, that L. xanthellum v. luteum must be misidentified, it's an asiatic hybrid - nothing like the species: http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027752 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027752)

I think your right Bjørnar. This clump is just too vigorous and vulgar to be a wild Lilium species. It was initially purchased from Crûg Farm Plants in Wales. They grow a lot of wild lilies from seed and so I assumed that the identification must be right but I agree the plant they sell as xanthellum v. luteum looks nothing like the images of the wild species. Here is a link to xanthellum var. luteum in the Crûg Farm Plants nursery catalogue: http://mailorder.crug-farm.co.uk/?pid=10679 (http://mailorder.crug-farm.co.uk/?pid=10679)
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: winwen on July 07, 2014, 07:00:43 AM
Guess what...  ;)
...don't know if it is L. henricii (although I guess it is rather not  :o), but it is definitely the same lily that is currently being sold by Chen Yi under the name "L-123 L. sp. nov." (photo attached).
I guess it is something new.  :-\ L. henricii not only has a different coloration but also much thinner leaves and -as stated above- the flowers are flat faced to bowl-shaped (not Campanula-like).
Bjornar, are the seeds that you sold on your Website under the name "L. henricii" from these plants?  ???
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 07, 2014, 10:21:22 AM
It's from the type location, so it is indeed L. henrici - and yes, these are the plants I collected seeds from. That said, the pictures were taking in a shaded forest in pouring rain, so the petals may very well be more spreading in cultivation. Protologue below, note it clearly says "perianthium albidum [...] campanulatum".

I'm heading to Huidong next, I suspect whatever Chen Yi has introduced of "henrici" originated there, thus they would in fact be L. huidongense.
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: arisaema on July 07, 2014, 10:26:34 AM
I think your right Bjørnar. This clump is just too vigorous and vulgar to be a wild Lilium species. It was initially purchased from Crûg Farm Plants in Wales. They grow a lot of wild lilies from seed and so I assumed that the identification must be right but I agree the plant they sell as xanthellum v. luteum looks nothing like the images of the wild species. Here is a link to xanthellum var. luteum in the Crûg Farm Plants nursery catalogue: http://mailorder.crug-farm.co.uk/?pid=10679 (http://mailorder.crug-farm.co.uk/?pid=10679)

That's a rather bad mistake... I know they have bought from Chen Yi in the past, and propagated the stock in their nursery - and I seem to remember a discussion in the Yahoo Lily Group about a Dane (Lykkegård?) sending her some hybrid bulbs, which ended up being sent out to customers the same, or following, year. Seems you got an overpriced Asiatic hybrid of possible Danish origin  :P
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on July 07, 2014, 11:50:48 AM
For those of you not on Facebook: Lilium yapingense.
Wow, These are superb - very exciting to see these, thanks!

Description of Lilium yapingense :
http://www.sekj.org/PDF/anb50-free/anb50-187.pdf (http://www.sekj.org/PDF/anb50-free/anb50-187.pdf)
Title: Re: Lilium, June 2014
Post by: winwen on July 07, 2014, 01:23:42 PM
It's from the type location, so it is indeed L. henrici - and yes, these are the plants I collected seeds from. That said, the pictures were taking in a shaded forest in pouring rain, so the petals may very well be more spreading in cultivation. Protologue below, note it clearly says "perianthium albidum [...] campanulatum".

I'm heading to Huidong next, I suspect whatever Chen Yi has introduced of "henrici" originated there, thus they would in fact be L. huidongense.
Interesting hypothesis, Bjornar! In her email, Chen Yi stated that the lily shown was from SE-Tibet. I don't know if L. huidongense grows there.
However: when I bought the bulbs, they turned out to be L. taliense or L. duchartrei (...don't know how to separate these from each other).
Unfortunately with Chen Yi it is always a "Life is like a box of choclate....."-game. I guess about 30% of the catalogue is not what it should be. So I'm still hoping to meet the real L-123 one day.


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