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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: mark smyth on January 10, 2008, 06:55:03 PM
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Hopefully this weekend I will have more photos to add to this post. The wind this week and the snow last week ruined many emerging Colchicum flowers.
To kick things off here is Colchicum luteum - what a colour!
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Pure sunshine - we could do with some! 8)
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I must order some of those next year.
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A couple of colchicums from Turkey flowering a bit out of synch. I know they have all been split,renamed etc. but as I probably wrongly identified them in the first place I am not too worried.It probably means I have lots more species in my collection.
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Oh! Those Colchicum have got their clocks mixed up, haven't they? Any idea why they've done that?
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No idea really, they were repotted and watered as normal about September but they have been coming up at all odd times.A lot of the pots of crocus such as veluchensis also seem to be in flower now instead of the spring whilst others of the same species are not even showing
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Last year I had autumn flowering Colchicums in late November
Like I guessed earlier this week the high winds and heavy rain ruined most of the winter flowering Colchicums except for these two hungaricum 'Album' and 'Velebit Star'
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Tony,
September is often too late to repotted autum flowering Colchicum and Crocuses and often after they grow and flower curiously, particularly that 2007 year. July is better.Colchicum variegatum is true but bivonae without white center and few tesselated is suspect for me.
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September was just an estimate,I have them dry for the summer and generally start my bulb repotting about the beginning of July. I have a lot and it takes me a couple of months,I have to garden at the same time.
I understand your comments on the identification and wonder what you think it is? I do not think they are easy to identify and I am no expert.Look at the problems the RHS had with the award to Colchicum speciosum which had tessallation .
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Dominique! I think also your C. bivonae is right. I am looking also to turkish plants data service. In that area there is not Colchicum speciosum. C. speciosum spread mostly north of Turkey and C. bivonae west of Turkey.
Regards..
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So, Tony, is your 'C. bivonae' from Edremit in Balıkesir, western Turkey, or Edremit, Van, in the east? ???
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Hi Maggi!
I did not know that there were two Edremit in Turkey. so I checked and seen another one near lake Van.
When we are talking Edremit, It means an holiday village in Balıkesir. Region Van have not recorded neither C. bivonae nor C. speciosum.
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I am talking about Edremit in the West.
I have looked in the Flora of Turkey which I used to key out this plant(grand words for a complete amateur) at the description for bivonae and it says-perianth segments rosy purple,strongly tessallated,sometimes white at base. As in them all these characters vary and so I think I will stick with my identification for the moment.I am very happy to be corrected.
I have been to Lake Van twice and on the way collected C.speciosum on the Zigana Pass. It grows like a weed for me in the garden and is wonderful in the autumn
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Mark
Where did you purchase the Colchicum luteum - they are magnificent. If grown from seed, what was the source.
Arthur
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Arthur they came from Janis
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Tony, I did not know that Colchicum bivonae could be without white base. All mine are with. Good lesson
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I bought Colchicum minutum from PC over a year ago and he says it flowers with narrow leaves in January. The pic on his website shows no leaves and my plant's leaves are anything but narrow. More on a par with C. cupanii, which are very broad! Any views?
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By coincidence I photographed mine today using the southish facing widowsil as a photo studio - I must be feeling better! Mine have a full set of leaves with the flowers among them
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Here you go Anthony, C. minutum. C. jolanthae turned out rubbish and didnt cost £27 the ex guy from Ebay tried to sell them for
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in my haste to flood the forum with photos I forgot Colchicum kesselringii including one that is almost white. Those in pots are flowering at the same time as those outside in troughs
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very nice Mark.
here is a picture of two I forced out today on top of the central heating.We have not had daylight for the last four days and they would just go over without opening. I think the difference in the two colour forms is nice They may be merendera's.They are from Nehmrut dag in the east of Turkey
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Nice to have a little warm and a break from the winter this week.
Colchicum hungaricum
Colchicum doerfleri
Eranthis hyemalis
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Nice to have a little warm and a break from the winter this week.
Indeed that is true, Franz, especially with these flowers to cheer you also. I am, as ever, most envious of your meadow. :D
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gorgeous pics Franz. I love your C. doerfleri. Thank you. Here Colchicum crocifolium after 3 years of patience. It is not very well opened. Better next days
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That is one small colchicum! How pretty!
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Yes that is pretty one.
Domnique! I will ask a better picture of that colchicum because c. crocifolium is recorded in my flora but I have never seen it before. I must learn more about it.
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Ibrahim, if you can source this document it may be of help:
English Title: Morphological and anatomical investigations on some species of Colchicum L. occurring in South East Anatolia, Turkey.
Personal Authors: Akan, H., Satil, F.
Author Affiliation: Department of Biology, Faculty of Art and Science, Harran University, Sanlurfa, Turkey.
Document Title: Journal of Biological Sciences, 2005 (Vol. 5) (No. 4) 402-410
Also this, which you likely know already: http://biow.tubitak.gov.tr/present/taxonForm1.jsp
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Today at the weekly Flowershow in Lisse, I saw the two following Colchicums.
Colchicum trigynum
Merendera (Colchicum?) jolanthae
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When I came home I just saw the next two plants in my garden.
Because of the rain I did not come out the last two days, but nature goes on...!
Colchicum szovitsii, just in time
Colchicum hungaricum, almost too late. It suffered badly from wind and rain.
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Maggi thank you very much I have that doccument but still it is very hard to identifie colchicums. The pics help lots to me.
Dominique I see some blue balls on your post. Do you nourish your crocuses?
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No Ibrahim, it is for slugs !
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Crocus crocifolium is now opened , but only one flower, very few chance to obtain seeds !!! And the miniature Merendera sobolifera shows his petals
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A nice form of Colchicum hungaricum from SBL seed (I think that is 'Salmon, Bird and Lovell')
Don't be fooled by the closeup pic - these flowers are smaller than a biflorus crocus!
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WOW! What a cutie! Have I told you that I LOVE bulbs?? ;D 8)
And just look at those fab black anthers dehiscing.... LOVELY
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what a colour combination!! Puts my white form and Velebit to shame. Is there a waiing list?
Here's one from me before I go to bed. Just watched the Truth programme on Sky1 and Grand Designs
Anyway, I forgot I had bought this until I spotted it today after work
Colchium luteum x kessellringii.- after it for so long after Ian showed it in a bulb log. I now have both parents so need to do some pollinating