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Title: Dysosma
Post by: Egon27 on April 17, 2014, 10:01:41 PM
These varieties Dysosma brought from China.

    Dysosma sp.1.jpg
    Dysosma sp.2.jpg
    Dysosma sp.3.jpg
    Dysosma difformis Kalejdoscope.jpg
    Dysosma veitchii.jpg
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 17, 2014, 10:25:27 PM
Cracking looking plants!!!
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Afloden on April 17, 2014, 11:02:55 PM
Egon,

 Really stunning plants on the first three. The first might fit the concept of trilobulus, but to me it looks like a really good form of delavayi. That said, veitchii and delavayi came from different places and other forms were later described from yet other places. I think your first plant originated from near Jinfoshan. I would be interested in the position of the inflorescence and of the sepal and petal shapes when they flower (and seed!!).

 
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: GordonT on April 18, 2014, 01:06:15 AM
Awesome plants! I have always wanted to get my hands on veitchii, but now have a new favourite- the plant in the first photo is stunning!
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Egon27 on April 18, 2014, 04:58:54 AM
The first two [1,2] Dysosma bought last year and are not yet bloomed.
Others grow in my garden well and spend the winter without problems.

     Dysosma pleiantha
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: fixpix on April 18, 2014, 06:28:14 AM
Wow, Egon.
Many thanks... you have just introduced me to a whole new plant to me!
I like that  ;D
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Tony Willis on April 18, 2014, 09:02:14 AM
Lovely plants.

Which seller did you buy from?

The veitchii looks very much like what I have as delavayi and in 'The Genus Epimedium ' it is a synonym of delavayi.

They are very variable as you will see once you start raising them from seed. It is even more interesting when they hybridise in the garden.
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 18, 2014, 09:10:17 AM
Amazing variety in these wonderful plants.  We saw Podophyllum veitcheii at Bressingham on Wednesday and I have been promised one, we thought one at the back of the border was going to be a purple form ....but it was frosted!  Could you tell me if the young foliage is always so beautifully dappled and how long before they become huge green leaves instead?
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Tony Willis on April 18, 2014, 10:09:09 AM
The coloured foliage plants- delavayi types start in colour and stay the same all summer until they die down,they do not turn green.

The green leaved species such as pleianthum and versipelle start green and stay that way. The green leaved plants are huge.Mine have pairs of leaves 70 cms across and the same high.

Also  when well grown these things are a weed coming up all over the place from underground stolons
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 18, 2014, 07:19:27 PM
I see, so the pictures at the start of the thread are of leaves coming through something else.  All is now clear.  The Podophyllum veitchii we saw was a green leaved form so it won't have those lovely marks on new leaves :-\
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: ichristie on August 02, 2014, 02:42:24 PM
Hello, I grow a few Dysosmas and Podophyllums, here is a picture of Dysosma farreri in flower,  cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Julianshaw on May 19, 2015, 10:49:19 AM
* Dysosma sp.1.jpg
This image matches a plant illustrated in Flora Hupehensis vol. 1 page 402 (1976) which bears the invalid name Dysosma lichuanensis Z. Cheng, ined.  More significantly, it appears to be a good match for a specimen I saw in the Paris herbarium, which is the type of Podophyllum majoense. at the time, I was inclined to regard this as a synonym of P. delavayi, but evidently it is a taxon worthy of recognition.
Put simply your plant is Podophyllum majoense.
A similar plant appears on the website of Cotswold Garden Flowers as Chen-Yi D-106. However, it appears that several different taxa have been distributed as D-106.
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: Maggi Young on May 19, 2015, 11:22:54 AM
Welcome, Julian, thanks for your helpful comment.   Perhaps we might  benefit from your insight in the Orchid threads, too?
Title: Re: Dysosma
Post by: johnw on May 19, 2015, 12:14:15 PM
Ian Christie  - Can you post a picture of the leaves of your Dysoisma farreri?  A new one to me.

Egon  - Your old pic of Kaleidoscope from Chen Yi looks nothing like it, 10 times better though!  I sthere a chance sp. #2 above is Kaleidoscope?

john
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