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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on April 08, 2014, 04:18:05 AM
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Our first nerines are in flower!
2 x Nerine "fothergilla Major" (now considered a form of Nerine sarniensis,
and 2 x Nerine rosea,
two of the hardiest ones in our garden,
cheers
fermi
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Time flies Fermi doesn't seem two minutes since I was looking at your Nerines last year. Still nice and I still can't grow them.
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Gorgeous both, but I'm loving the red one more...
I tried some small bulbs out in the garden once, and they froze successfully :(
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Hi David & fix have you tried them in pots in full sun, I have some undulata in a pot that's got some flower stalks showing.
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David, They need to establish before you get results. Not too much feeding and a lot of time. N platypetala and gibsonii are flowering here in congested clay pots among Summer growing bulbs in a sand plunge. They get sporadic water most of the year. This is the first flowers on either species since the bad winters nearly killed them at around minus 15C. -so three years to recover back to flowering.
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Wondering where 'here' is Peter... Could you add your location to your sig please? It really helps on this forum to know approximate location. Thanks...
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Fermi - I marvel at the lack of winter in the southern hemisphere but your weather and flowering sequences have always baffled me. You have nerines in flower at the end of your winter while the same ones flower here just after summer and at the beginning of our autumn. Why is this, lack of enough cooling?
johnw
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Hi John,
My nerines were in flower back in April - our autumn.
We've had winter ;D
It got down to -6oC ;D
But we have quite frequent frosts - which are still going on :(
cheers
fermi
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When in doubt check the date eh.... ::)
john
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Wondering where 'here' is Peter... Could you add your location to your sig please? It really helps on this forum to know approximate location. Thanks...
Fair comment Chris, though the information was in my profile. I have modified it to show clearly that I am in Britain though.
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That is helpful, Peter - only registered members can see your profile, of course, and since some folk do not bother to add their location even there, many readers would not search to see if there is a location given. Makes one's posts much more relevant to have a location in the signature box for all forumists. 8)
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Thanks Peter, much appreciated! Here is my stand of nerine. I got them about 15 years ago as three bulbs on a trip to Logan BG. They have gradually multiplied outside, but they are just bog standard bowdenii. I did buy some more exotic species and cultivars and planted them in the same location but they all perished. The second pic shows the true colour of the flowers. I love these plants!
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ChrisB - Are your nerines in flower at the moment. I did check the date this time.....
johnw
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seed grown N bowdenii are just about to open here, planted against a north wall. I too lost "N.flexuosa alba" when I planted it in the ground. Others I have not tried in the ground, but I have a friend in England with various species/ hybrids flowering in his garden
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Hi John, yes the pic was taken this morning. They are planted alongside the concrete platform that the garage is built upon. Also, any rain from the garage drains directly into that area so it's one of a very few places that stays moist during droughts ( like now). Dappled shade, sandy soil. Never feed them at all.
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PeterT & ChrisB - I can hardly believe it! Here my bowdeniis are very much in leaf and will be so for at least another month or more. They start up in April but flowering occurs after the leaves die down so we expect no flowers till November. Mine could very well be Pink Distinction but in the last few years I have been adding some bowdenii v. wellsii so hopefully we'll get earlier flowering, November is just too late but we've been lucky with freezes.
It would be too daring to plant them here as high as you have Chris. I know they prefer that but I have seen the necks frozen off ones planted 5-6" deep here! That makes for one very odd-looking bulb. Many thanks for the reports.
johnw
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I'm very lucky John to have free draining sandy soil. But in 2010 we had some very cold weather that lasted a long time, from the end of October until the following February, with sub zero temps and large accumulations of snow. That snow must have helped the bulbs that year I think. Sometimes the bulbs actually grow themselves right out of the ground and I can harvest them. I never feed them.
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In a nearby garden today I spotted a large clump of Nerines just coming into flower - the first flowers were opening and the stems were tall- around 70cms - maybe more.
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Hi Maggi I have two species of nerine, dowdenii in the garden & undulata in a pot in full sun. They will soon flower, just wish I could get amaryllis belladonna to flower as well.
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Nerine filifolia (#1008) in bloom. Seems later than usual this year.
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Jim
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Nerine Undulata in flower in a pot next to my greenhouse.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5562/15137856800_168672f7a2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p4Ftr3)IMG_0121 (https://flic.kr/p/p4Ftr3) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
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It's nice to see your undulata in bloom. My undulata are not stirring so far. A few of my N. bowdenii "Koen's Hardy" and bowdenii wellsii are already sending up buds. This is early for them.
My bowdenii wellsii #1975 originated with Dawie Human. I think they are from the high country in the Drakensberg where the Free State, KwaZulu-Natal, and Lesotho come together.
Jim
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Hi Maggi I have two species of nerine, dowdenii in the garden & undulata in a pot in full sun. They will soon flower, just wish I could get amaryllis belladonna to flower as well.
John - My A. belladonna tooks exactly 20 years to flower................
johnw
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Hi Jim I hope you will post some pics when they flower I would love to see them, stick with the undulata, they are well worth the wait.
Hi John I think I might know where I am going wrong with my A. Belladonna, I reckon I have them too deep in the soil, I was at a cyclamen show in Birmingham botanical gardens a week or so ago and I saw some belladonna bulbs, with a lot of the bulb showing above ground. So next year when they die down i'll scrape some of the potting compost away and see if it does the trick.
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John,
A. belladonna is almost a weed in our part of California. The tops of the bulbs are always sticking above the ground - but then it doesn't get very cold in the Sacramento Valley of California either, maybe -3 or -4 c most winters. Also, the bulbs need no water during the summer when they are dormant - even with our heat and dry they seem to like the dry rest. Our bloom season (late August) ended some time ago and now there is ripe seed. Good luck with your plants!
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Nerine filamentosa discovered hidden in the polytunnel!
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The one time the Amaryllis flowered was the year I changed habits and watered them whilst dormant. ::) Noses up here.
johnw
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Hi Robert & john that's definitely where I'm going wrong, the bulbs are way too deep in the compost, there not ripening in the summer.
Anyway back to nerines, here's bowdenii, looking great.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2948/15403031442_38246748a6_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/15403031442/)
Nerine bowdenii (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/15403031442/) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
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A pale pink form of Nerine bowdenii.
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A pale form of Nerine bowdenii likes growing in these through
Poul
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The first Nerine of the season barely opened this morning. 'Miss Frances Clark'. A bit of flash shows the sparkly bits.
johnw
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This one comes back with minimum fuss.
Nerine Mrs. Moore x Carmenita
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Hello,
this Nerine I received dormant as a gift from the Botanic Garden Munich. Unfortunately on the way home I lost the label....
Any suggestions?
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Went to the RHS Autumn Festival at Wisley today. Lots of foody stands, masses of people. Found this in the Plant Centre and had to buy it!
x Amarine 'Belladiva'
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A few Nerine hybrids in flower today, this despite the warm weather.
Miss Frances Clarke (1)
Mother of Pearl (2&3)
Smither's seedling 1st batch (4)
Purple Robe (5)
I am more and more impressed with the latter as the years go by, quite a good red.
johnw - +15c at 19:24
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Nerine Blanchefleur
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I'm sure I've said here that I couldn't grow Nerines outside for toffee. I've tried three/four times and always lost them but yet in this area people don't seem to have a problem with them. Last year I had a chat with Julian Sutton of Desireable Plants http://www.desirableplants.com/ (http://www.desirableplants.com/) who asked me where I had been getting my bulbs from and, when I told him from garden centres, expressed no surprise at my failure. Julian gave a talk, and as usual it was excellent, at our local AGS Group earlier this week and brought with him a selection of Nerines for me that are hardy in the South West so I'm going to try again in a South facing part of my front garden. Here's a couple of them, the third one N. bowdenii 'Pink Surprise wasn't in flower.
Nerine 'Zeal Grilse' and a more orangey/pink than the picture shows
Nerine 'Kinn McIntosh'
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Here's a couple of them, the third one N. bowdenii 'Pink Surprise wasn't in flower.
David - 'Pink Surprise' just opened here a day and a half ago. I had hoped it would flower earlier as it emerged earlier than ever before.
Nerine S-8-01 by flash to catch the sparkle dust.
johnw - +15c and 20-30mm forecast.
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And another first-timer, Nerine 'Quest' x ('Zambia' x 'Ken Scott')-24113b
johnw
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And another which oddly is a combination of purple and red. Last time it flowered purple.....
Nerine PS-09-05 ['David Lionel' x ('Bagdad' x 'Pantaloon')-25519a]
johnw
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If you compare these shots with previous ones I posted the last two purples to flower have aged darker.
PS-8-01 (photo 1) has darkened in old age and is disintegrating to black, I have not seen this before.
PS-9-05 (photos 2&3) is a much stronger colour some 2 weeks after first opening.
johnw - +8c & overcast.
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These colour progressions do add a lot to the enjoyment and interest of these flowers.
Do the "fancy" cultivars have the same rather odd smell that puts me off having the standard N. bowdenii in the house as a cut flower?
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Maggi - I haven't noticed any fragrance or "smell". We've had a tub of bowdenii 'Isabel on the front porch for the past few weeks and have not detected a thing. I'll go check on the others...
johnw
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I'm impressed with the colours you've produced, John.
And lots of pollen for more breeding!
cheers
fermi