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SRGC Shows and Events => Events => Topic started by: Martinr on April 05, 2014, 08:15:31 PM
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Another great day out. Thanks to Show Secretary John Savage and his team...really top quality bacon butties! I'm sure Mr Booker will be along soon with loads of top notch pictures but in case you can't wait there is a small selection on the AGS Discussion pages here
www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows/North+Midland+Show+April+/18510/ (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows/North+Midland+Show+April+/18510/)
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Just back from another excellent Alpine Garden Society Show (the North Midland Show held at Chesterfield, Derbyshire) … images to follow when time allows. Hearty congratulations to East Lancashire and North Lancashire AGS Group members, Frank and Barbara Hoyle from Chipping on their magnificent Farrer Medal with what must be the largest Draba ever exhibited at an AGS or SRGC show.
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Mmmmmm ...... bacon .......... :D
My goodness - that is one BIG Draba - you're right, Cliff, I think it is even bigger than the giant that Harold Esslemont grew and exhibited then passed on the the RBG Edinburgh.
Congratulations to Frank and Barbara Hoyle for staging that super-sized plant and winning the Farrer!
It must have looked like a moving field of oil-seed rape travelling in their car ;) ;D
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My goodness that is one MONSTER plant! Bravo
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Been reflecting - Harold's giant which went to the RBG E was not Draba longisiliqua but a Draba mollissima . Ian Kidman has shown some huge Draba longisiliqua plants in the past. Seems there are 'mega-genes' :) in these plants! :)
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He had the same plant at Hexham but the flowers weren't fully opened on one side. I know they were keeping their fingers crossed that it would stay in condition for the Chesterfield show.
If I remember correctly, Frank said it was one of the first alpines that he ever bought, xx years ago, and it only began flowering like that about five years ago, but always had some flowers that were slower to open, giving it a patchy appearance. So, finally it performs properly! :D
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Thanks for posting pictures, Martin. The color of the Lewisia tweedyi was incredible.
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He had the same plant at Hexham but the flowers weren't fully opened on one side. I know they were keeping their fingers crossed that it would stay in condition for the Chesterfield show.
If I remember correctly, Frank said it was one of the first alpines that he ever bought, xx years ago, and it only began flowering like that about five years ago, but always had some flowers that were slower to open, giving it a patchy appearance. So, finally it performs properly! :D
It certainly couldn't be expected to do better than this - I wonder how often he repots it - surely cannot go up a size in pot so perhaps he removes compost and refreshes it - to a greater or lesser extent. Fascinating!
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Apologies to you all, but time is very tight at the moment, so I have posted a host of images from the AGS North Midland Show on the link that Martin kindly posted at the beginning of this thread. I hope you can all access and enjoy these images? More to follow when time and tide allow.
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows/North+Midland+Show+April+/18510/ (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows/North+Midland+Show+April+/18510/)
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He had the same plant at Hexham but the flowers weren't fully opened on one side. I know they were keeping their fingers crossed that it would stay in condition for the Chesterfield show.
If I remember correctly, Frank said it was one of the first alpines that he ever bought, xx years ago, and it only began flowering like that about five years ago, but always had some flowers that were slower to open, giving it a patchy appearance. So, finally it performs properly! :D
I believe Stan pictured the plant arriving at Hexham :
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It has proved very useful having a supermarket adjacent to the Hexham venue. ;)
Now that ownership has changed to Waitrose, we have a better class of trolley available. ;D ;D
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A miserable wet morning in Northumberland, glad I spent yesterday out in the warm sun rather than posting to the web site. I have to say that getting up at 4-30 to go to a show has lost what little appeal it ever had and even setting off at 5-20 I got the very last parking spot within reasonable distance of the door.
Having lifted some of the large pots at judging time to the inspection table I can assure you that some of them were heavy, had to be at least 40-50lbs weight, I think the AGS should supply strong young men to lift these pots for us of the older generation or supply fork lift 'trucks' or any other suggestions?
In the main the pictures run from class 1 onwards but nearer the end they jump around a bit.
Daphne petraea 'Lidora' (1) Lionel Clarkson, best shrub was in a 30cm pot to give you an idea of size
Draba longisiliqua (3) Frank & Barbara Hoyle, the Farrer plant, also best European if I remember correctly, don't fancy repotting it. To give this plant another angle, think of a field of oil seed rape, the whole field, crammed into an ~35 cm pan and you get the scale of it
Primula irregularis hybrid (8) Jim Watson
Primula juliae (9) Clare Oates
Primula 'Lindum Limelight' (10) Brian and Shelagh Smethurst, another very large pan
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Cecilia Coller had the most points in the Open section, so nothing new there had
Rhodanthe anthemoides in (14)
Draba dedeana (15) Lionel Clarkson, used to be seen often on the bench, not so much now, this was as big as I have seen it
I have carted this pot of
Saxifraga porophylla around for years, first time it has won (18)
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Cypripedium formosanum from Barry Tattersall (20).
I know I have posted Della Kerrs
Erythronium multiscapoideum several times over recent weeks but it was at its best in Chesterfield....best bulbous plant
Tulipa shrenkii (22) F&B Hoyle for the tulip fans
Tecophilaea cyanocrocus (28) Ju Bramley
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Lamium armenum (30) Alan Spenceley
Pleione formosanum 'Snow Bunting (30) Cecilia Coller
Rhododendron dendrocharis (32) Alan Spenceley
Saxifraga diapensiodes (33) Geoff Mawson, another one not so commonly seen these day
Draba acaulis (34) F&B Hoyle, Cert of Merit, now this one was really heavy, was sown in 1992. Should hold on well for next week with luck
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As is his norm Don Peace produced many high quality entries, among which were
Dianthus 'Rivendell' (52) first time I have seen it this year
Androsace muscoidea (53)
Primula petelottii (53)
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Daphne petraea 'Lidora' - one does sometimes see this plant listed as 'Lidora', but I think the more correct name is 'Lydora'
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I can't work out why it posts before I press 'post', seems to do it when I hit the 'enter' key
Primula 'Allen Glory' (54) from Tommy Anderson part of his three pan entry in the 3 pan primula, caused some controversy did this class, first time I have ever seen those who judged the class called to explain their reasoning before the other judges by the show director...still stayed the same after that...judging is an individual thing to some extent and that's the way it goes.
Primula bracteata (56) Geoff Rollinson
Primula auricula (57) Clare Oates...mine have a bit to go before they are in full flower, hope they look like this
Cyclamen libanoticum (60) Janet Aspland
Cyclamen persicum (60) B&S Smith, I always have trouble photographing cyclamen in the show hall, liked the colour of this one
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Draba oreades (61) Dave Charlton
Corydalis bracteata (62) Geoff Rollinson...my plants have been very slow at coming through this year, they seemed to enjoy the higher temperature and blue sky yesterday though
Ornithogalum bungii (64) Neil Hubbard, another new one for me, quite liked this one
Ophrys bertolonii (65) Barry Tattersall, I have tried this once or twice, never seem to be able to keep them going after flowering
From the tiny to the large
Rhododendron moerheim (98) Norman Davies
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Having lifted some of the large pots at judging time to the inspection table I can assure you that some of them were heavy, had to be at least 40-50lbs weight, I think the AGS should supply strong young men to lift these pots for us of the older generation or supply fork lift 'trucks' or any other suggestions?
Can't help feeling that would do wonders for membership recruitment, George!
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You're showing some great pictures of great plants, George. Really enjoying the variety.
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George, so many other judges protested about the decision I wasn't left with much choice! The good thing is the trio had done a good job and were so erudite and logical in their explanation of the choice that the assembled throng agreed the results stood. I think I did the right thing....must have done, didn't get my ear bent all afternoon about it :)
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Thanks George.
Primula pelottii-scrumptious. A Vietnamese Primula-anyone know how to grow it?
Are there any rules about more than one plant in a pot? I'm not saying there was in the case of the lovely Primula auricula but there might have been?
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David, looks like 1 plant of P auricula to me but to answer your question..........you can have as many plants in the pot as you like as long as they are all the same clone/species. of course in a raised from seed class you might expect to see variation. Read all about it in the shows handbook, available on line.
cheers
Martin
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Cheers Martin.
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More pictures in a moment, but I do think the P auricula was one plant. Martin as far as I am concerned was all done and dusted on the day, all right some folks did not agree with the original judging decision but after a re-trial the decision stood...if we did not go down that route we would end up having 12 judges doing each class, show might not open at 12 though!!!
Cyclamen rhodium ssp peleponnesiacum (64) Cecilia Coller
Anacamptis morio (65) Neil Hubbard, hoping mine will be ready for Cleveland
Iris babadagica (68) Cecilia Coller
Fritillaria pineticola (70) Janet Aspland
Narcissus 'Solveigs Song' (71) Les Brown....have this somewhere, must have a look for it as is rather nice
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It is not often I win a three pan Fritillaria class when Don Peace is around but managed it in (69) with
Fritillaria reuteri
Fritillaria amana 'Goksan Gold'...third show for this plant so good value there. Robert Rofe says it should be Goksun but it came from Ron McBeath as how I have it, does anyone have a definitive view
Fritillaria tubiformis
Staying with Frits Don Peace had three in to win the Fieldhouse Trophy, 3 from seed (86) two of which were
Fritllaria crassifolia kurdica
Fritllaria tuntaisia....really liked this
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Just time for one more post before got some work to do
Astragalus coccineus and
Lewisia tweedyi rosea, both in (72) Peter Farkasch...how this plant came on during the day in the warmth of the hall
There was some discussion on
Townsendia spathulata 'Cotton Balls (73) as there were two plants on show with different colour to the flowers, one from me, one from F&B Hoyle (no they do small pans as well as stonkers
Towsendia spathulata 'Pryor Mountain Form' Edward Spencer, is another of those plants in my 'used to have column', mores the pity
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Fritillaria amana 'Goksan Gold'...third show for this plant so good value there. Robert Rofe says it should be Goksun but it came from Ron McBeath as how I have it, does anyone have a definitive view
Definitive? On a plant name? Doesn't happen very often - but there is information! Fritillaria amana 'Goksan Gold' is listed - with one supplier, in the RHS Plant Finder. 'Goksun Gold' is not listed but has thousands of search engine hits as opposed to a few dozen for 'Goksan Gold'
Now we come to something rather more definitive -
Laurence Hills Fritillaria Icones site http://www.fritillariaicones.com/icones/ic100/Fritillaria_Icones118.pdf (http://www.fritillariaicones.com/icones/ic100/Fritillaria_Icones118.pdf) - shows details of F. amana from the Wallises from "SE of Goksun, Kahramamaras "- which gives us the name of the area ....
and this " Supplementary data
Plant material – Norman Stevens (Cambridge Bulbs, UK) 2004. Cultivar name Goksun Gold "
:)
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Many thanks for posting your pics here George and such good commentary with them too. Looks like it was a wonderful show!
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Thanks for the feed back on the Goksan Gold, will probably leave it that way for the time being but will browse the sites you list Maggi
Diuris orientalis (74) earned a Cert of Merit for Barrt Tattersall, is called 'donkey ears' in Australia so I also add a close up to indicate why
Daphne 'Rosebud' (75) from Tim Lever, made Dad do all the hard work as Tim was at Ulster
Rhodothamnus chamaecistus (76) Ian Kidman the best plant in a 19cm pan
Rhododendron 'Pintail' (77) Mavis and Sam Lloyd
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They talk of no young members in the AGS but Joseph Bramley is young enough and certainly keeps up the family standards when he produces cushions like
Gypsophila aretiodes to such a high standard...that's a 19cm pan
Cotula atrata dendyi was once often seen, another used to grow for me, I liked this one with the lovely 'bottle brush' flowers (112) Brian Sulman
While I was wandering around taking pictures Dave Riley came up to me and said (he being a Cyclamen fan) have you seen
Cyclamen x schwarzii as its pretty rare so I took a pic. (117) Bob Worsley
Narcissus rupicola (121) Margaret and Tom Taziker
Townsendia jonesii v tumulosa (123) Brian Sulman
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Some more big Rhododendrons
Rhododendron 'Snipe' (40) John Savage
Rhododendron chamaethomsonii (40) liked this so 2 pics
x phylliopsis 'Sugar Plum' (36) Dave Mountfort
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Last few, good timing as it has faired up, might even be a hint of sun
Class 5, a 3 pan had only one entry from Ian Kidman from back to front Cyclamen pseudibericum, Dionysia viscidula x freitagii and Primula irregularis hybrid.
I had taken it as a spare but thought I would enter it in a seed class
Gentiana pumila delphinensis, raised from MESE seed
All in all was a good show, I would say down in the entries for big pans though those that were there were all of a very high standard. The Trade Stands seemed as busy as ever, the Members Stall was as well stocked as ever, even bought two from this, lunch was full of good crack and I even brought a bit home as a doggy back for the Springer Spaniel we have, a bit of steak...made it even springier.
Its time consuming doing these posts, good job its been a bad weather day, gives me an excuse to be in but sun is now out so time for me to be out too.
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Hope you can enjoy a pleasant evening in the last rays of sun, George. Not a whisper of it here today - drizzle on and off. Super that you took the time to share your photos with us all. :-*
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Fantastic show report George, thank you for taking the time to post pictures of these super plants with commentaries.
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There really are some fantastic plants there and obviously a Show to be proud of. I'm not sure 'they' talk about fewer younger growers displaying plants, surely it is 'we'? I am still the youngest member of our AGS Group having been Chairman for some 16 years plus, and Treasurer and now Publicist, and a few more younger members would certainly go down well, quite apart from carrying heavy plants! Answers on a postcard to the AGS Centre, Pershore... or to anyone who organises the Shows and Local Groups, or down the local pub!