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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: annew on February 25, 2014, 05:28:42 PM
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Is it spring yet? It certainly feels like it here!
A few new babies:
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More:
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This is Narcissus 'Susan Cox' from Lesley in NZ.
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And a general view of the dafflet house.
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wow amazing to see them
2954-papa snoz x k1.jpg - the one on the left is lovely
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Wonderful display.
There is some much plastic in your pots there is hardly room for the bulbs. :o
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I need to label each bulb so I know whether I want to keep them or not. I keep the label industry working!
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That was quick, you replied while I tried to correct my typo.
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A stunning potful of cantab pet!
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So many beauties there Anne.
In particular I like the leftmost one of the Candlepower x K1 set. Is it pure white or cream?
Please add my name to the list for when you bulk it up :-*
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Whoa, did spring arrive and I didn't see it?
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Mitzy is now turning white
Fairy Gold
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What a sweet thing 'Fairy Gold' is Mark. Cyclamineus parentage clearly? Reminiscent of 'February Gold', but I assume much smaller, hence the name?
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Some species in flower
narcissus bulbocodium
Narcissus cordubensis
Narcissus longiscapus
Narcissus cantabricus ssp monphyllus
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What a sweet thing 'Fairy Gold' is Mark. Cyclamineus parentage clearly? Reminiscent of 'February Gold', but I assume much smaller, hence the name?
I don't know the parents and unfortunately the breeder is no longer alive. I will go outside and measure it
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Matt the tallest is 11cm to the top of the scape. A third or half of bulbs may be chipped this year
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Narcissus hedraeanthus subsp./var. luteolentus
This name is accepted by Blanchard but not by Kew who recognise only N. hedraeanthus. However it seems, at least horticulturally, distinct & I find it is much more willing to flower than plants I have as N. hedraeanthus.
A gift from Anne Wright ex Rannveig Wallis
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Matt the tallest is 11cm to the top of the scape. A third or half of bulbs may be chipped this year
Really quite dinky then! The greenish tube is very nice.
DaffSeek says it's N. nanus x N. cyclamineus (and using one of your photos): http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Fairy%20Gold&lastpage=1& (http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Fairy%20Gold&lastpage=1&)
Good luck with the chipping.
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I don't know the parents and unfortunately the breeder is no longer alive. I will go outside and measure it
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Fairy%20Gold&lastpage=1& (http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Fairy%20Gold&lastpage=1&)
Whoops, three minutes too late ;D
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I used to have so many - dreaded Narcissus fly. 2009 was a good year
Narcissus Fairy Gold
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Gerry, I am not agree with Flora Iberica and KEW concerning this species. For most of us, in Spain, this is the plant that mainly grows in Despeñaperros called Narcissus blancoi. My hypothesis is that it was originated by N. hedraeanthus and the big N. cantabricus that grows south Spain.
Also N. longispathus is no longer accepted. :-\
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Also N. longispathus is no longer accepted. :-\
Rafa, yes I know this but then this applies to the names of most of my plants-narcissus,crocus,orchids,cyclamen,fritillaria...... but by the time I change the labels they will have been called something else. I just wait for them to come back around again when the lumpers are back in ascendency.The plants stay the same but the botanists come and go.
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Rafa, yes I know this but then this applies to the names of most of my plants-narcissus,crocus,orchids,cyclamen,fritillaria...... but by the time I change the labels they will have been called something else. I just wait for them to come back around again when the lumpers are back in ascendency.The plants stay the same but the botanists come and go.
Agreed, and seconded
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So many beauties there Anne.
In particular I like the leftmost one of the Candlepower x K1 set. Is it pure white or cream?
Please add my name to the list for when you bulk it up :-*
Ashley, that's my current favourite for my daughter.
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Some species in flower
narcissus bulbocodium
Narcissus cordubensis
Narcissus longiscapus
Narcissus cantabricus ssp monphyllus
Nice to see the species, Tony. I don't grow Narcissus cantabricus ssp monphyllus, but isn't it supposed to have only one leaf? Or was the botanist just impatient?
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Mark, Fairy Gold looks great in your trough. Mitzy/i is my current favourite garden daff. Current favourites are as changeable as the weather as new beauties flower...
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Gerry, I am not agree with Flora Iberica and KEW concerning this species. For most of us, in Spain, this is the plant that mainly grows in Despeñaperros called Narcissus blancoi. My hypothesis is that it was originated by N. hedraeanthus and the big N. cantabricus that grows south Spain.
Thanks Rafa. I wonder how long the name N. blancoi will last?
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...Narcissus cantabricus ssp monphyllus ... isn't it supposed to have only one leaf?
Mine has two. Apparently it's not unusual. A case of misleading nomenclature though!
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I used to have so many - dreaded Narcissus fly. 2009 was a good year
Anne is right, they do look good. 2009 was a good year for Fairy Gold and not Narcissus fly I hope?! Luckily I have escaped the wee blighters so far. I presume we'd get them here...must look into that...
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Thank you for uploading fabulous pictures, Anne :D
Tony, that is a good monophyllus 8)
Mark, do you breed new miniature daffs using with your collection?
I didn’t know N. hedraeanthus is such a various species with narrow to fully open mouthed flowers, Gerry :D
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Anne is right, they do look good. 2009 was a good year for Fairy Gold and not Narcissus fly I hope?! Luckily I have escaped the wee blighters so far. I presume we'd get them here...must look into that...
Fortunately we don't have any narcissus flies here. But crinum borer (Brithys crini) caterpillars eat into narcissus bulbs occasionally and consume all bulbs in a pot :( :'( >:(
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...must look into that...
Well, I've just checked on the NBN - National Biodiversity Network - Gateway for the distribution of large and lesser Narcissus flies. There are no records for any of these species in the Western Isles. However, I'm not going to be complacent. A lack of records here usually means under-recording rather than an absence of a species.
NBN Gateway - https://data.nbn.org.uk/ (https://data.nbn.org.uk/)
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I do hope it is not a case of under-reporting, Matt - perhaps those famous Hebridean winds are keeping you clear?
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Narcissus flies have a preference for shade and dislike windy conditions. This alone should help keep the species from colonising VC110.
It's relatively easy to inspect dormant bulbs but bulbs bought ready potted are a potential source of spread.
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Sorry, post crossed with Maggi's.
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...perhaps those famous Hebridean winds are keeping you clear?
Let's hope so!
Narcissus flies have a preference for shade and dislike windy conditions...
Apparently they only fly when temperatures are above 20oC (how nice that would be) and there is little/no wind. So, I think we're safe! :)
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I think there are too many myths about what the Narcissus fly does or doesn't like. They do fly on warm days but how often do we get 20c in May and June? I do know for sure they do not fly when its raining or very cold. The last four Mays over here have been very cold and wet which kept them at bay but when the weather warmed in July they were there. They must have just stayed dormant in the soil. I now remove all Galanthus leaves when they go soggy
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JJA 699.814 Narcissus cantabricus. Spain, Madrid, Aldea del Fresno. 500m. Clay. Collected by Rafa ;)
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Narcissus perez-chiscanoi, if that is still a valid name.
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Narcissus perez-chiscanoi, if that is still a valid name.
You may well ask, Ralph. Ian speaks of this plant in today's Bulb Log : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2014Mar051394015970BULB_LOG_1014.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2014Mar051394015970BULB_LOG_1014.pdf)
Confusus? who wouldn't be ?
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And to add to the confusion, The Plant List says it is Narcissus hispanicus Gouan
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And to add to the confusion, The Plant List says it is Narcissus hispanicus Gouan
Heaving large SIGH! I give up - these taxonomists will be the death of me.
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Taxing, aint it?
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It sure is - as taxing as the taxonomists are trying........
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Heaving large SIGH! I give up - these taxonomists will be the death of me.
"In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxonomy."
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Gerry, N. blancoi is no longer acceted, but I support this species. To me it's the same case than N. albicans.
N. bulbocodium x N. cantabricus--> N. albicans
N. hedraeanthus x N. cantabricus (and even white forms of N. albicans)--> N. blancoi.
It's just an hypothesis.
Narcissus x barrae
Narcissus cantabricus
Narcissus albimarginatus
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The last pictures N. muñozii-garmendiae and N. x susannae
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These photos of Narcissus albimarginatus are very special! It is 5 years since Gerd K. was hoping that Anne W. would manage to bring back pictures of this lovely narcissus from her Moroccan trip.
How exciting to see them. Thank you Rafa.
How tall are these plants?
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As Maggi says, special indeed.
N. x susannae used to hold the top spot in my admiration, but if I could only grow one Narcissus, could N. albimarginatus be it I wonder?
Thank you, Rafa.
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They are around 30-33 cm. I think that this species like N. broussonetii needs many hours of full sun. I think it is possible to grow it in Mediterranean countries.
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wow Narcissus albimarginatus are lovely
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Mitzy has now lost all colour
A group as large as the bottom photo would be great to have. When I asked way back in 2008 if the grower could spare a couple if/when dividing the clump the answer was "I don't have enough to spare any"
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Rafa Lovely photos of some nice plants
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These photos of Narcissus albimarginatus are very special! It is 5 years since Gerd K. was hoping that Anne W. would manage to bring back pictures of this lovely narcissus from her Moroccan trip.
.... indeed and I did not forget it. It seems this plant crosses the ' Estrecho de Gibraltar ' . Rafa, thank you for these wonderful pictures.
Isn`t it a marvellous flower?
Gerd
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Narcissus albimarginatus... my hybridiser's mouth is watering. I love that little white rim and the cheeky exerted stamens.
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.... indeed and I did not forget it. It seems this plant crosses the ' Estrecho de Gibraltar ' . Rafa, thank you for these wonderful pictures.
Isn`t it a marvellous flower?
Gerd
Yes indeed- very unusual and very appealing. It has a "happy " appearance.
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its a really special plant, big and robust, very nice and strong scent, It reminds me N. assoanus but also N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus. Im not sure if this species is well placed in Apodanthi section... I think it has its own section.
I am collaborating in a study of narcissi scent, and I will try to introduce it through seeds as soon as possible, this year.
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.......its a really special plant, big and robust, very nice and strong scent.........
My goodness, it gets even better!
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.... indeed and I did not forget it. It seems this plant crosses the ' Estrecho de Gibraltar ' . Rafa, thank you for these wonderful pictures.
Isn`t it a marvellous flower?
Gerd
A beautiful flower. Kew describes this plant as native to Morocco. Rafa - was this photographed in cultivation or growing wild in Spain?
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Correct. It is a "micro endemic" from Morocco, not present in any other part of the Planet. I think this species is in culture in Botanic Garden of Barcelona, but not sure.
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Thanks Rafa.
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Rafa, thank you for showing pictures of these exquisite narcissi, N. albimarginatus, N. muñozii-garmendiae and N. x susannae. I wrongly believed that the last two were synonymous, your pictures show very distinct plants.
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yes, there are two totally diferent things.
N. muñozii-garmendiae is now considered by Flora Iberica as Pseudonarcissus species, I am not agree with this, to me it's a species from Asturiensis group.
Also since they bring back to life N. albicans (also ignored by Flora Iberica) there are two very similar hybrids with N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus: Narcissus x litigiosus (parent albicans) and Narcissus x susannae (parent cantabricus).
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They are around 30-33 cm. I think that this species like N. broussonetii needs many hours of full sun. I think it is possible to grow it in Mediterranean countries.
Not only in Mediterranean but my place... sunny winter and at N34°58′ almost same as Morocco ;D
Thank you for sharing your pictures, Rafa.
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We have a Mediterranean climate too.
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some cantabricus pics from today - for comparison
left to right
Narcissus cant. Chorro / Almodovar del Campo / Brazatortas / Rio Jandula
the last one might be called N. albicans now - a surprising form/species which looks very close to the North African
N. romieuxii
Gerd
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fantastic comparative picture Gerd.
In Jandula river, there are N. cantabricus, but I think N. albicans is still an hybrid. Seeing the amount of N. cantabricus and N. bulbocodium, there are very few N. albicans types. I collected once this plant and it was sterile. Maybe this evolution has started recently in this particular place and this is why there are very few. In Toledo or Extremadura, N. albicans have thousands of plants, more than the parents.
Gerd, did you see the groups of N. jonquilla mixed with N. cantabricus and N. bulbocodium? they don't make any hybrid :-\ there are also few N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus in the same group, close to the water and also N. jonquilla is not accting without any other species.
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This group of plants, called N. albidus etc.. in my oppinion are african versions of N. albicans.
Also I think in Spain, it could be possible different N. albicans deppending the mother bulbocodium, but the most successfully mother in this cross with N. cantabricus is the one that grows in Toledo, Ciudad Real, and Extremadura.
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Two Narcissus cordubensis one from Grazelema and the other from Zahahra. Interestingly when I was there last the Zahahra site had been totally trashed by wild boar and the narcissus,orchids and iris destroyed.
Narcissus alpestris ms842 from Mike salmon performing well again.
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Very nice Tony.
Question on the N. cordubensis. Do you dry them during dormancy or give some moisture.
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They stay in their pot in the sand plunge which dries out but is not baked. I stop watering when they start to die down usually in May and start again in September
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Gorgeous Daffs folks. Narcissus asturiensis from me.
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Tony, alpestris is beautiful.
Arnold, I grow cordubensis outside here in eastern Tennessee and let it have whatever the weather throws at it. It is nearly in flower here in the garden and sets seed every year.
Aaron
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Thanks, Tony and Aaron.
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fantastic comparative picture Gerd.
In Jandula river, there are N. cantabricus, but I think N. albicans is still an hybrid. Seeing the amount of N. cantabricus and N. bulbocodium, there are very few N. albicans types. I collected once this plant and it was sterile. Maybe this evolution has started recently in this particular place and this is why there are very few. In Toledo or Extremadura, N. albicans have thousands of plants, more than the parents.
Gerd, did you see the groups of N. jonquilla mixed with N. cantabricus and N. bulbocodium? they don't make any hybrid :-\ there are also few N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus in the same group, close to the water and also N. jonquilla is not accting without any other species.
Thank you Rafa - the more abundant occurence of N. albicans in Toledo and especially in the Extremadura is very interesting.
I found plants which I took for yellow cantabricus only in the Sierra Morena and also some sterile ones, looking like a small
pale bulbocodium - unfortunately I lost them. I have to test the plant shown here for sterility.
No Narcissus jonquilla found in the region.
Gerd
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Narcissus x triandrus 'Angel's Whisper', the perfum is exquisite
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Yellow fever is in full swing here now.
I really like the 'propeller blade' twist in the petals of N. bulbocodium nivalis, an effect best appreciated head-on.
The flowers of N. 'Oxford Gold' are blowsy, but it seems to be a strong grower here.
Many pots full of N. fernandesii are also in flower at the moment: http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11521.msg297951#msg297951 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11521.msg297951#msg297951)
And outside, N. 'February Gold' is escaping the depredations of the local sheep!
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Narcissus 'Elka'
Opens primrose yellow then gradually fades; another Alec Gray hybrid.
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A lovely hybrid, yann :)
Nice golden flowers, Matt :) According to ‘Daffseek’, N. ‘Oxford Gold’ is an inter section hybrid with Bulbocodium and Jonquilla. But its appearances look very close to bulbocodiums for me. ‘Daffseek’ also mentioned its sweetly scent. Do you sniff some jonquila influence from its scent?
Those miniature trumpets herald spring has just arrived, Ashley :)
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Hi Tatsuo.
I believe that Narcissus hybrids inherit their flower shape/form mainly from the seed parent (the bulbocodium in this case) and colour mainly from the pollen parent. It is a very large/robust plant with leaves that are closer to the Jonquil types.
I did have a good sniff of these flowers but couldn't detect any noticeable scent, but it may not have been warm enough. I'll try again when the sun comes back.
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Thank you, Matt. ‘Oxford Gold’ would become a interesting breeding stock if it's fertile.
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Narcissus 'Paperwhite' in the garden today.
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Growing in the garden, perennially, Ralph? :o
Can't even get a repeat flowering in pots up here. They just get chucked out and bought in fresh annually.
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Growing in the garden, perennially, Ralph?
Yes Matt, in well-drained soil at the foot of a south facing wall.
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Hello all super pictures I am now starting to collect Narcissus the neat small ones have a new life after snowdrops so here are what is flowering just now have no fear the snowdrop bug is very strong, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Yes Matt, in well-drained soil at the foot of a south facing wall.
:o Right, I'm moving back to Hampshire!! :'(
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Hello all super pictures I am now starting to collect Narcissus the neat small ones have a new life after snowdrops so here are what is flowering just now have no fear the snowdrop bug is very strong, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Nice dwarf narcissi Ian. They can be as addictive as snowdrops!
Narcissus jacetanus, fairly compact outside on the raised bed. In the frame it is flopping.
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Some great plants out in the open - are your slugs not partial to narcissus then? I just have the stumps of my group of Jim Lad in a trough.
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Many nice and well grown Narcissus.
Here is a few of mine
Narcissus asturiensis 'Giant'. Almost twice as big as the others once I have (left in the picture)
Narcissus asturiensis
Narcissus hedreanthus. I got two bulbs in 2012 from a kind forumist.
Poul
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‘Daffseek’ also mentioned its sweetly scent. Do you sniff some jonquila influence from its scent?
Hi Tatsuo. I've picked a flower of 'Oxford Gold' and brought it inside. It ha no scent at all, as far as I can tell.
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Poul, have your N. hedraeanthus scent?
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Hi Tatsuo. I've picked a flower of 'Oxford Gold' and brought it inside. It ha no scent at all, as far as I can tell.
Thak you so much, Matt ;)
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It's not been a good Narcissus year for me, just a few here.
Narcissus bulbocodium
N. bulbocodium var. graellsii
A little seedling from Brian Duncan a couple of years ago that he labelled 'little yellow trumpet seedling'
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I love the colour of the N. b. var graellsii. I have a couple of pots of seed out in the frame - really hope they come up!
The convoluted corona and petals on the 'little yellow trumpet seedling' are very nice David.
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Two Narcissus cordubensis one from Grazelema and the other from Zahahra. Interestingly when I was there last the Zahahra site had been totally trashed by wild boar and the narcissus,orchids and iris destroyed.
Narcissus alpestris ms842 from Mike salmon performing well again.
Tony I would said the second one is Narcissus baeticus. The first one called N. cordubensis is the plant that we call Narcissus cerrolazae Ureña described in this paper http://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Frevistas.ucm.es%2Findex.php%2FBOCM%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2FBOCM9494110083A%2F6485&ei=lgIfU7PzM6iS0QXb64HgCw&usg=AFQjCNGTUF00JBExh0NSJOv92JG5dhp5Tg&bvm=bv.62788935,d.bGQ (http://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Frevistas.ucm.es%2Findex.php%2FBOCM%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2FBOCM9494110083A%2F6485&ei=lgIfU7PzM6iS0QXb64HgCw&usg=AFQjCNGTUF00JBExh0NSJOv92JG5dhp5Tg&bvm=bv.62788935,d.bGQ)
that link may not work - try this : http://www.montecorto.com/info/narcissus.pdf (http://www.montecorto.com/info/narcissus.pdf)
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If I have a spare graellsii Matt I'll save one for you. The little trumpet isn't really so convoluted my photographing backing board blew down on it :D
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Not a stable feature then...nor your backing board?! ;D
If there was one spare, that would be MOST welcome David.
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Not a stable feature then...nor your backing board?! ;D
If there was one spare, that would be MOST welcome David.
;D
OK will let you know in re-potting time
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Narcissus varduliensis JWB
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Some great plants out in the open - are your slugs not partial to narcissus then? I just have the stumps of my group of Jim Lad in a trough.
I have not noticed much slug damage to narcissi. Snowdrops flowers occasionally get chomped. Perhaps wood pigeons do have their uses.
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i do not notice slug damage on my narcissus
Narcissus bulbocodium ssp citrinus from Spain Avila
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Narcissus cyclamineus, one of my favourite.
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A nice clump of Narcissus 'Jetfire'.
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N. watieri (or should that be rupicola ssp watieri?).
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At last I can show you photos of two of Tatsuo's narcissi grown here in Yorkshire - not cushions! They have been in my 'arrivals lounge', so were partly shaded by other new arrivals. Still looking up though! Many thanks to Tatsuo for those.
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And three of my seedlings:
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Last one - a self sown seedling - no effort involved!
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At last I can show you photos of two of Tatsuo's narcissi grown here in Yorkshire - not cushions! They have been in my 'arrivals lounge', so were partly shaded by other new arrivals. Still looking up though! Many thanks to Tatsuo for those.
The second plant, ex Tatsuo- van Tubergen, is very flat. A lovely pet.
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Last one - a self sown seedling - no effort involved!
No effort maybe, but she's lovely. There's something very reminiscent of x susannae about it. A very happy accidental.
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Narcissus bulbocodium
From a collection by Bob & Rannveig Wallis (RRW8832), Tahnaout, High Atlas, Morocco.
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A nice flash of green in the tube on that one.
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Poul, have your N. hedraeanthus scent?
Rafa, no I can not smell any.
Poul
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Last one - a self sown seedling - no effort involved!
I agree with Matt, a lovely flower. It reminds me a little of the Wallis' 'Eira' ( though I've never seen that in the flesh). Do you know what the parentage is Anne?
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Last one - a self sown seedling - no effort involved!
Anne,
Natural selection. Very Sweet! :)
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At last I can show you photos of two of Tatsuo's narcissi grown here in Yorkshire - not cushions! They have been in my 'arrivals lounge', so were partly shaded by other new arrivals. Still looking up though! Many thanks to Tatsuo for those.
Thank you, Anne. I’m happy those look grow well at your place :) :D ;D Their flower shapes look similar to mine in contrast to their height. I'm wishing for you will move both plants from your special judging room :-X welcome lounge to breeding room.
I believe the plants in your first 2 pictures are N. cantabricus ‘clusii’. Sorry I mislabelled when I packed them.
And three of my seedlings:
Do your bright sisters of rupicola/watieri x cyclamineus hybrids have some scent?
Last one - a self sown seedling - no effort involved!
I've found another magical melting pot in Yorkshire ;)
Here is a picture of my clones. This season isn't for them.
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Narcissus bulbocodium
From a collection by Bob & Rannveig Wallis (RRW8832), Tahnaout, High Atlas, Morocco.
A nice uniform conical flower with wide mouth, Gerry 8)
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Here is a picture of my clones. This season isn't for them.
I think everyone here is wishing they could grow plants as compact as that, Tatsuo. They look good to me.
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I think everyone here is wishing they could grow plants as compact as that, Tatsuo. They look good to me.
Thank you, Matt. I meant this season's flowers are worse than the last's ;)
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Oh yes, I see, a lovely potful. I find cantabricus can be a bit 'fussy' with me, more so than other species - some times it takes a year off - as you know, it's just not sunny enough here.
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Narcissus 'Little Spell'
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The seed for this tazetta type Narcissus came from a Jim Archibald seed list many years ago. It is not like any N. tazetta I know, but then I am not up to speed on my Narcissus ID.
The first photo is from our garden in the Sacramento Valley. There it blooms December to January. The last two photos are from our Sierra Foothill / Mountain Farm and are blooming now. They are much hardier than "Paperwhites" and very fertile both ways. Of course very fragrant.
The bottom line is: I like them and thought I would share the photos. :)
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N.jonquilla var.henriquesii
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Nice potfull Philip.
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Thanks David.This always does well.
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Fantastic colour, Philip. And nice short leaves!
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Thanks David.This always does well.
Not with me it doesn't :(
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David.I don't do anything with it except put it under a bench when it's died back,until Autumn.Then it just sits out on a table all Winter ,until up it pops.
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Philip, here's my pot as posted on 25 February in the Winter Daffs thread and believe it or not there were 12 bulbs in the pot! I do struggle with Jonquils as a whole though, maybe I don't keep them warm enough in the Summer.
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Narcissus bulbocodium 'Spoirot' - impressive size
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........ maybe I don't keep them warm enough in the Summer.
To be fair David, most of us in the UK have a hard enough time keeping ourselves warm in the summer. :(
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;D ;D ;D
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Yes Matt, in well-drained soil at the foot of a south facing wall.
1. This clump of Narcissus 'Paperwhite' has been at the foot of this warm wall for about ten years now, and has bulked up nicely. 2. Next to them is a nice clump of Narcissus 'Avalanche'.
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Philip, here's my pot as posted on 25 February in the Winter Daffs thread and believe it or not there were 12 bulbs in the pot! I do struggle with Jonquils as a whole though, maybe I don't keep them warm enough in the Summer.
David - they will tolerate, or even enjoy, a hard bake. I have no problems with section Jonquillae but really struggle with section Apodanthae.
This year Narcissus in general have been quite poor here but N. jonquilla var. henriqesii has been exceptionally floriferous & exceptionally long lasting despite the poor weather.
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1. This clump of Narcissus 'Paperwhite' has been at the foot of this warm wall for about ten years now, and has bulked up nicely. 2. Next to them is a nice clump of Narcissus 'Avalanche'.
Very nice Ralph, hope you have a sheltered seat close by where you can enjoy the scent on a warm day?
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Narcissus bulbocodium 'Spoirot' - impressive size
Hi Arthur,
One of my favorites, too!
It's one of Rod Barwick's "Little Detective Series" - a derivation on Hercule(s) Poirot,
cheers
fermi
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David - they will tolerate, or even enjoy, a hard bake. I have no problems with section Jonquillae but really struggle with section Apodanthae.
This year Narcissus in general have been quite poor here but N. jonquilla var. henriqesii has been exceptionally floriferous & exceptionally long lasting despite the poor weather.
Candidate for the airing cupboard do you think Gerry? Or will that be too much?
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Candidate for the airing cupboard do you think Gerry? Or will that be too much?
Why not try half your stock in the airing cupboard? Proper Summer treatment of Narcissus is a mystery to me.
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Here's an interesting sport from Narcissus 'King Alfred'.
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Narcissus cordubensis
Narcissus Mitimoto
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Thank you Poul!,
Gerry, there aren't N. bulbocodium subsp. citrinus in Avila, it is subsp. graellsii, although both subsp. are very similar....
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I don't remember planting this in the garden, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised at that.....
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Ralph, I think I remember reading that the white/yellow variegation in the flowers can be a sign of virus - sorry to be a harbinger of doom...
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Ralph, I think I remember reading that the white/yellow variegation in the flowers can be a sign of virus - sorry to be a harbinger of doom...
I take you you are referring to this post, Anne? Here's an interesting sport from Narcissus 'King Alfred'.
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I am.
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Nice flowers, Arnold, by the way. I bet they smell nice too.
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Ralph, I think I remember reading that the white/yellow variegation in the flowers can be a sign of virus - sorry to be a harbinger of doom...
It may well be, Anne. It is in a large group which was planted in the early 1990s before we moved here, which flowers reliably every year and provides plenty of cut flowers for the house. This is the only one which is like this; but without viruses we would have no florists tulips!
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By the way, my seedling "Ballerina' has had a name change. That one was already registered so she is now 'Giselle'. She got an Award of Merit at the weekend.
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True, very true. Maybe keep it away from your snowdrops though?
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True, very true. Maybe keep it away from your snowdrops though?
They're well away!
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Some narcissus in the wild,
Narcissus jonquilla
Narcissus bulbocodoium subsp. quintanilhae 2
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Narcissus bulbocodium var. biflorus.
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Narcissus bulbocodium var. biflorus 2.
Narcissus bulbocodoium subsp. quintanilhae
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Wow! What an interesting site and situation! The jonquillas in water and the bulbocodiums in neighbourhood.
How does this place look during summer?
Gerd
p.s.
it seems your 'biflorus' bulbocodium is a hybrid
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Gerd here is a picture of Narcissus x abilioi, but in this cross is N. fernandesii (mother) x N. bulbocodium L.
http://www.herbario.ian-ani.org/index.php?c=pliegos&a=ficha&i=2384 (http://www.herbario.ian-ani.org/index.php?c=pliegos&a=ficha&i=2384)
http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/herbarium/Narcissus-x-abilioi-Fern.Casas.-img7623.html (http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/herbarium/Narcissus-x-abilioi-Fern.Casas.-img7623.html)
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Thank you Rafa,
The other hybrid is quite different from those you pictured!
Gerd
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Is not easy to think that this Narcissus bulbocodium L. var. biflorus F. M. Vázquez is not a hybrid, because I just found 5 plants in 2 km square. It grew between N. jonquilla clumps only. All parts of the plants except the flower were like N. jonquilla, with the perianth tube completely green....black tunics, while subsp. quintanilhae has redish-brown tunics....
You can see a particular variety of a plant, if you are in a big locality of this plant that contains a great genetic variability. For example N. cantabricus and the var. petunioides and even var. biflorus as well, (if you want to call it like this). Also this happens in N. rupicola, N. confusus....
But this variety of N. bulbocodium L. with only 5! plants in a place where there are only subp. quintanilhae? Apart the morphological diferences, subsp. quintanilhae has a strong scent like "white rice" and var. biflorus hasn't scent. This is quite important in my oppinion.
I would say this is not a variety, this is a good species, that it's almost extinct. In the other 3 localities they aslo mentioned 1 plant or so. The only thing that I would like to know is if there are N. jonquilla and subsp. quintanilhae in the other localities or is it possible to find it growing alone.
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http://www.herbario.ian-ani.org/index.php?c=pliegos&a=ficha&i=2384 (http://www.herbario.ian-ani.org/index.php?c=pliegos&a=ficha&i=2384)
http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/herbarium/Narcissus-x-abilioi-Fern.Casas.-img7623.html (http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/herbarium/Narcissus-x-abilioi-Fern.Casas.-img7623.html)
Hi Rafa,
Forgot to add - these are wonderful useful links to Spanish plants!
Gerd
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First daffs in my garden
Narcissus 'Telamonius Plenus'
No name for this one
Narcissus bulbocodium
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Not sure about this one. From 2010-2011 SRGC seedex, wild collected by Rafa, labelled Narcissus triandrus pallidulus which it clearly is not. The flower is a bit deformed with only 5 petals.
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Not sure about this one. From 2010-2011 SRGC seedex, wild collected by Rafa, labelled Narcissus triandrus pallidulus which it clearly is not.
Parhaps a wild hybrid, Roma? Does it have some scent?
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Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720 :) I didn't expected flowers in this pot. I fed them a little after flowering and didn't repot them last season.
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Garden varieties...
Englender
Little Gem
Rapture
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Here in Interior Northern California the Narcissus blooming season is coming to an end. This little N. rupicola is blooming for the first time from seed in 3 years - to blooming size in record time for us. ;)
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Until today I did not realize Narcissus could be so small :o
Picture of Narcissus calcicola 'idol' taken today at Wisley Alpine House
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three more in flower at the moment
Narcissus triandus from near Toledo
Narcissus rupicloa ssp watieri
Narcissus alpestris from Cerler
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So many beautiful plants flowering with you right now, Tony.
I do like that N. watieri - I cannot abide the form 'Abaleish' that is seen quite a lot now - the twisted folded petals are ugly to my eyes - they always look like the flowers are dying - I love the flat perfection of yours.
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Narcissus alpestris from Cerler
Can never tire of seeing that Narcissus of yours,
cheers
fermi
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Sorry Roma,
Sometimes N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus are so mixed with N. rupicola that it could be possible to take seeds from the other capsule. I will send you some of my plants of N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus.
Gerry, your N. triandus is also subsp. pallidulus, is the one that grows in Toledo.
Here N. x consolationis (N. bulbocodium subsp. nivalis (mother) x N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus (father)
Also N. assoanus with muscari neglectum
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three more in flower at the moment
Narcissus triandus from near Toledo
Narcissus rupicloa ssp watieri
Narcissus alpestris from Cerler
Tony, the N. alpestris is very appealing. It seems quite short. What is its height?
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Thank you Rafa. I thought it could be rupicola didn't think the corona was flat enough. It must be very difficult when species grow together and have similar seed capsules to be sure which you are collecting. Not to worry - any wild collected seed is exciting to see flower for the first time. There are more bulbs in the pot which will not flower this year so maybe there will be triandrus next year.
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Tony, the N. alpestris is very appealing. It seems quite short. What is its height?
15 cms ,slightly shorter than my MS form
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Nice alpestris Tony ;)
Here is my N calcicola. Such a pretty plant and a gift from a friend
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spectacular plants Ian
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spectacular plants Ian
Thanks Rafa. I always look forward to your posts of plants in the wild
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The lovely Narcissus bugei. I'll have to get this twinscaled
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The lovely Narcissus bugei. I'll have to get this twinscaled
Very nice Mark.
Here is a new one to me: Narcissus jacetanus
Poul
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I hope to find Narcissus jacetanus for sale this year. I missed out last year
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Getting near to the end of my not very good Narcissus year-Narcissus primigenius
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Here are Narcissus (bulbocodium) graellsii from the central part of Spain (Thanks to Rafa) and
Narcissus triandrus var. triandrus with a large corona
Gerd
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Narcissus 'Douglasbank'
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Gerd, Could it be this triandrus the variety that gows in Pontevedra coast, called var. capax or var. loiseleuri? I've seen this large corona in this variety. Do you have data collection? I think this large corona could be an adaptation to portect the sexual organs from salt winds.
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Narcissus rupicola, El Espinar, Segovia, Spain
Narcissus varduliensis, Laguna de Losa, Navarra, Spain
Both grown from wild seed collected by Rafa :)
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I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to decide the subspecies of N. triandrus that I have growing in pots, before I take them to a show tomorrow. The only conclusion I could come to was that there seems to be so much variation that I can't tell! Rafa, can you help us with what to look for?
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Gerd, Could it be this triandrus the variety that gows in Pontevedra coast, called var. capax or var. loiseleuri? I've seen this large corona in this variety. Do you have data collection? I think this large corona could be an adaptation to portect the sexual organs from salt winds.
Rafa, you know your own collections very well. This plant comes from Pontevedra indeed and it is an RDD collection.
Sorry, I mixed it with another triandrus from an Austrian friend.
Your notes concerning the large corona are very interesting. It is stated that specimen from the Iles de Glenan (which receive salt wind for sure) have a similar appearence.
Gerd
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Anne do you have any picture?
If it is white, think in a Iberian northern plant (subsp. triandrus, var. loiseleuri, var. alejandrei)
If it is naple yellow, think in subsp. pallidulus
If it is a pure yellow plant think in subsp. lusitanicus or even subsp. pallidulus concolor form.
The species that I know better is subsp. pallidulus. I hasn't a big variability. It is possible to find 1 to 8 flowers per scape, most of them have 1, 2 or 3 floweres. Color is also very uniform, pale naples yellow, but you can can also find pure yellow forms (not to be confused with subsp. lusitanicus) It has 1 or 2 leaves per bulb, brown papyraceous tunics... You can also find longistyla plants and brevistyla plants, with or not exerted stamen. This character is interesting..., It must have an important role in natural hybridisation process, longistyla plants, no need so precise insect adaptations to make a cross, even the wind can transport the pollen from other species. But brevistyla plants need an insect adapted to enter in the flower.
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Gerd, I tried many times to get any material from Iles de Glenan, but it seems impossible. I am sure it is the same species, and I am sure this locality is subexpontaneous. The seeds arrived there probably in the legs of migratory birds. Ganymedes secction has its geographical origin (like most of Narcissi) in Península Iberica, this locality in Iles de Glenan has't any logic except for animals or anthropic activities.
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Narcissus rupicola, El Espinar, Segovia, Spain
Narcissus varduliensis, Laguna de Losa, Navarra, Spain
Both grown from wild seed collected by Rafa :)
Look at this N. varduliensis!, well done!. Be careful with this species, not many people accepted it, it is usually assimilates to Narcissus pallidiflorus Pugsley. To me it's quite different from N. pallidiflorus, but is not clear at all the validity of this taxon, because many localities described as N. varduliensis are in fact N. pallidiflorus. The only differences that I find is that N. varduliensis is bicolor and it has a marshy ecology, and N. pallidiflorus is totally pale yellow and it has a Fagus forest ecology.
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It is stated that specimen from the Iles de Glenan (which receive salt wind for sure) have a similar appearence.
That’s what I thought too, e.g. see here (http://gardenbreizh.org/photos/SHBL/photo-111015.html).
Gerd, I tried many times to get any material from Iles de Glenan, but it seems impossible. I am sure it is the same species, and I am sure this locality is subexpontaneous. The seeds arrived there probably in the legs of migratory birds. Ganymedes secction has its geographical origin (like most of Narcissi) in Península Iberica, this locality in Iles de Glenan has't any logic except for animals or anthropic activities.
Lusitanian species in the Irish flora (http://www.irishwildflowers.ie/lusitanian.html) (sadly no Narcissus among them) pose a biogeographical puzzle. As far as I know their persistence through the last Ice Age is now in doubt; rather, molecular and other evidence supports post-glacial colonisation, perhaps from (or via) a refugium within the present Bay of Biscay when sea levels were lower (http://donsmaps.com/icemaps.html). Iberian species (incl. N. triandrus capax?) might therefore have reached Brittany even without the help of migratory birds or human interference. Surely someone has done a molecular comparison of the Brittany & Galician N. triandrus populations?
In the meantime, this paper (http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CE4QFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F255733903_Wild_daffodils_of_the_section_Ganymedes_from_the_Iberian_Peninsula_as_a_source_of_mesembrane_alkaloids%2Ffile%2F72e7e524ad5c2ba9f9.pdf&ei=9QE2U7ynKYnb7AbU3YC4Bg&usg=AFQjCNFIiVfkryauMTQMFZyJv0F3_f_hLA&bvm=bv.63808443,d.ZGU&cad=rja) shows the distribution and photos of some of Rafa's collections from NW Iberia 8)
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Narcissus moleroi first flower from a sowing in Aug 08; 10 cm
N. 'W.P. Milner' (x2) 30 cm
Narcissus moschatus (x2) 35-40 cm
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Narcissus alpestris forms from Castejón de Sos & Cerler, 20-22 cm; a kind gift from a forumist
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Narcissus 'Colleen Bawn'
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These white narcissi are lovely. 8)
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I understand it is described as a "swan neck" cultivar.
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Giants and dwarfs in bulbocodium species
Here are some Narcissus bulbocodium in different shape
from left to right
Urbasa/Navarra, Landes form near Bordeaux, a dwarf form from Rafa
Gerd
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Here are
Narcissus gaditanus (very difficult to get flowers) and N. rupicola
Gerd
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I like these white flowers....
Gerd, I think the 1 and 2 pot are the subsp. citrinus, and the 3 pot is the new species that we discovered. We are planning to publish.
Here some pictures from this morning in Toledo. A lilliput N. jonquilla growing in an exceptional ecological conditions for this specie, making croses with N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus. (name invented "N. x jonquidulus")
Also there were the yellow forms of N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus.
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I was so excited. Leucocoryne coquimbensis, bought from Flores and Watson, and sown in
December 2003, had a bud.
And then a bit of colour showed. Yellow? It was supposed to be blue.
Now, here it is. I'd appreciate an i.d.
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Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. graellsii
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Rafa, what an exciting find! Delightful photos too.
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Thank you, Rafa. I sowed seeds of Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. graellsii in 1997.
Maybe I gave up on it and used the pot later for the Leucocoryne seeds.
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A couple in flower today
Narcissus abscissus
Narcissus poeticus
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Narcissus jonquilla 'Bell Song'.
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Tony, second it's maybe N. poëticus?
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Rafa
I did at first think it was poeticus but later decided on tazetta. my label has had both names!I have changed my posting thank you.
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Narcissus triandrus subsp capax, in wild on St Nicolas's Island and in the Brest botanical garden.
The flower seems to be larger then other subspecies.
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Vincent, thank you for these pics - must be a wonderful sight!
See also Rafas reply 185 from March 28th
Gerd
Gerd, I tried many times to get any material from Iles de Glenan, but it seems impossible. I am sure it is the same species, and I am sure this locality is subexpontaneous. The seeds arrived there probably in the legs of migratory birds. Ganymedes secction has its geographical origin (like most of Narcissi) in Península Iberica, this locality in Iles de Glenan has't any logic except for animals or anthropic activities.
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Narcissus triandrus from Iles Glenan is now named var loiseleurii by french botanists : see http://www.tela-botanica.org/bdtfx-nn-75757 (http://www.tela-botanica.org/bdtfx-nn-75757)
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Rafa
I did at first think it was poeticus but later decided on tazetta. my label has had both names!I have changed my posting thank you.
It's definitively not tazetta. Maybe a bit early for a poeticus (cultivated in greenhouse ?) but looks like poeticus
Narcissus tazetta (from Montpellier area)
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Narcissus assonus (from Montpellier area)
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Hello Karaba, beautiful tazetta - I can smell it from here ! ;)
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Narcissus rupicola subsp. watieri.
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Vincent, thank you very much for these pictures, they are vey illustrative. They very variable, but they are the same plant that grows atlantic Galician coasts.
I think that if it would a expontaneous distribution, it must be in other close islands or even in the whole atlantic coast of Galicia. Sheeps or birds, could be the most logic explanation. Imagine if someone find a N. viridiflorus Italy in the wild... or for example we have Hermodactylus tuberosa and Ferraria crispa in spanish country, far from any urban place, in wild places. It is impossible someone planted them there, or arrive due glaciar process (that explains many distribution plants, but I think it's not the case)
To me var. loiseleuri or capax (I don't really know which one is the legitime) is only an adaptation to the salt winds, I am sure that if you put a normal N. triandrus subsp. triandrus, form León, near to any Pontevedra cliff, for example, the next generations will adapted the corona to protect the plants that have exerted or not, style.
Concerning "mad" distributions, what about Erodium maritimun that grows in Ireland, one place in Balearic Island, one in Pontevedra and one in a Coruña? or Erdium mouretii? in North Morocco, Huelva and Badajóz.... they are birds the responsables. Precisely E. mouretii in Spain although the seeds are desingend to be distributed by mamals, it use to grow in Bubbo Bubbo and Gyps fulvus nest...
Edit: Thinking in the sheep propagation, I think it's no possible, because they ate the capsules when they are green, specially N. assoanus. It would be interesting which are the bird movements between Pontevedra and Iles Glean.
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What a surprise today in the garden. These were bought many years ago as Narcissus romieuxii which they aren't. They have never had so many flowers. Are they N. bulbocodium?
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yes, they are - and a very nice shape to them, too. Very pretty.
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yes, they are - and a very nice shape to them, too. Very pretty.
The shape - incurving margin of the corona - suggests N. obesus (N. bulbocodium subsp. obesus) . But these bulbocodiums are almost impossible to identify with any certainty.
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Thanks Maggi and Gerry
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I've had these 10 years. Can I assume they are not happy in the garden? Should I move them?
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I've had these 10 years. Can I assume they are not happy in the garden? Should I move them?
They look very happy. I envy you; bulbocodiums don't do well outside here.
You seem to have a very handsome form - to be on the safe side it might be an idea to put a few in a pot
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N. bulbocodium does pretty well outside here for us in Aberdeen. No harm in taking a hostage though, as Gerry suggests but if they've been okay outdoors all this time, well......
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N. bulbocodium does pretty well outside here for us in Aberdeen. No harm in taking a hostage though, as Gerry suggests but if they've been okay outdoors all this time, well......
Here they survive but don't flower, even in a raised bed. Summer not dry enough perhaps?
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but if they've been okay outdoors all this time, well......
but 10 years to look like this. They've never been fed or divided :o
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So many of my plants are showing an exceptional number of flowers this year. It could be that last summer's weather was particularly favourable. They look happy and are a nice form - suggest you give them a little feed and let them be.
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So many of my plants are showing an exceptional number of flowers this year. It could be that last summer's weather was particularly favourable.
That's interesting Anne. Here plants which are actually flowering have an unusually large number of flowers. However many plants have no flowers at all. Puzzling.
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This was in the garden when we moved here in 1996. Don't know what it is but we like it.
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So many of my plants are showing an exceptional number of flowers this year. It could be that last summer's weather was particularly favourable. They look happy and are a nice form - suggest you give them a little feed and let them be.
I'll feed them today
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Many years ago the local housing people, borough council or roads service planted 1000s if not millions of daffodils through my estate. They brought in a Dutch company to do it using a plough that cut an shallow inverted T in the ground. As it went along the flaps were raised and bulbs fell in. The ground was then flattened with a roller. The first year was a fabulous display but every year the display is getting worse and worse
This is my section of display today
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I remember when you told us about that planting taking place, Mark.
They don't look particularly overcrowded, so I think the poor things are just hungry.
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They're dying, Maggi. It used to be solid yellow like the top end. All leaves have brown tips
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Oh dear .... might still be starving - or do you think there may be a fungal infection ?
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My guess is the roller damaged them and rot set in
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Is it really N. rupicola? ;D
In the second picture N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus and N. x rupidulus, an impresive clump composed by 16 bi-flowered bulbs!
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What a wonderful setting and what an interesting surrounding!
Are the daffs growing in/between (red) marble boulders?
Gerd
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What an amazing sight, thanks Rafa. N. rupicola is living up to it's name, with just a covering of mosses and lichens over the bulbs. When I see pics like this it makes me think I mollycoddle my bulbs too much and should treat them harder.
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There's some warmth in the sun now, encouraging pots full of flower after a long winter here.
Very pleased with this elegant N. x cazorlanus that I picked up from Anne's table at Dunblane.
N. rupicola watieri seems to do very well here.
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Some hybrids add to the cheerfulness.
Narcissus 'Hawera'
Narcissus 'Lemon Drops'
Narcissus x taitii / 'Queen of Spain'
An un-named Narcissus that grows in the garden here. I like the shape. Does anyone recognise the variety?
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Does anyone know this delicate Narcissus? Is it waterei?
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Does anyone know this delicate Narcissus? Is it waterei?
Rather too large to be the species, but it could be 'Xit' (a seedling of N.r.watieri)?
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Isn't that the worst possible cultivar name!
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It could be Xit which I bought years ago
and yes stupid name
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In 2004 I collected (with permission) one bulb of a yellow form of Narcissus alpestris and in 2009 managed to produce one seed by selfing it. This has now flowered and much to my delight it has turned out to be yellow as well. I was expecting that white may have been dominant but clearly not so.The parent on the right is now up to half a dozen but I am now reasonably confident of producing seed that will flower yellow from two clones.Seedling is on the left.
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Have you twinscaled it?
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Have you twinscaled it?
No, I grow from seed which is why I persevered with self pollination
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Very nice Tony.
They seem different to N. moleroi above (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11474.msg300527#msg300527), which some regard as just a yellow variant of N. alpestris.
Have you ever seen wild populations of N. moleroi, and how do you think it compares?
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Very nice Tony.
They seem different to N. moleroi above (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11474.msg300527#msg300527), which some regard as just a yellow variant of N. alpestris.
Have you ever seen wild populations of N. moleroi, and how do you think it compares?
Ashley
My yellow plant was growing in a tractor track being crushed daily in a field of hundreds of pure white N.alpestris. They were not well regarded by the farmer who thought they were bad for his cattle. He was quite bemused as to why anyone should want such a weed.
I have never seen anything but N. alpestris although of course I think the form from Cerler which is more robust and growing in a different habitat has been split off at one time. To me they just seem variations on a theme. I did discuss these plants with Dr.Norman who was also of the opinion they were one species.
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Thanks Tony. My seed came from Brian Duncan but I don't know the origin of his stock. This description (http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEEQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2F130.206.88.24%2Fichngarrotxa%2Ffotos%2FNarcissusmoleroifitxa.pdf&ei=Y0hEU6uHJcje7AbqxIHgCQ&usg=AFQjCNHoD8BDrr7twcY0Nrlhfillson_Kw&bvm=bv.64367178,d.ZGU&cad=rja) suggests a distribution further to the east, in Catalonia.
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I returned today to take more pictures of this spectacular clump :o
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It could be Xit which I bought years ago
and yes stupid name
Mark, Narcissus "Xit" was in that big box of bulbs I sent to you in 2010, before I moved to NZ.
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Thanks Anthony. I assumed I bought it.
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I returned today to take more pictures of this spectacular clump :o
Wonderful to see.
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I returned today to take more pictures of this spectacular clump :o
Spectacular indeed Rafa!
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Is it really N. rupicola? ;D
In the second picture N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus and N. x rupidulus, an impresive clump composed by 16 bi-flowered bulbs!
fabulous. Its very difficult to see what they are growing in. Is it dry moss?
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Yes it is Mark, also it's a mixture of lichen, moss, pinus needle with seasonal moisture. This particular rock of granite will be VERY hot in summer... Maybe there is just 4cm of soil. This N. rupicola is very variable species, when it grows between Citisus roots, the plants are huge, and what a coincidence, the scent is the same than Citisus.
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I will watch this particular clump of N. x rupidulus to see if it set seeds...
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How envious I am, Rafa. I just want to lie down in front of them and stick my nose in the flowers!
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An easy one but lots of flowers
N.bulbocodium 'Golden Bells'
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Bought this from Paul Christian as Narcissus poeticus subsp. physaloides; looks more like N. poeticus subsp. radiiflorus?
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Still plenty of colour on show from the Narcissus:
N. assoanus
N. bulbocodium 'Golden Bells'
Narcissus 'Solveig's Song'
N. poeticus hellenicus
A tazetta jonquil type that has come up in a pot of 'Queen of Spain' - any suggestions as to ID?
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A tazetta type that has come up in a pot of 'Queen of Spain' - any suggestions as to ID?
Hard to see the scale of it, Matt - is it bigger than a N. rupicola?
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Hard to see the scale of it, Matt - is it bigger than a N. rupicola?
Yes, sorry, that might help. Much bigger than N. rupicola, about 13" high and the flower is 1 3/4" across. The leaves are not flat, I guess they'd be more or less semi-circular in cross-section and are ridged on the undersides. Lovely scent.
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A tazetta jonquil type that has come up in a pot of 'Queen of Spain' - any suggestions as to ID?
The Div 7 hybrid 'Sun disc' perhaps?
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Sun%20Disc&lastpage=1& (http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Sun%20Disc&lastpage=1&)
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'Sun Disc' comes to mind, yes.
Kokopelli is reliably multi-headed, I think.
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Nice to see your narcissus still out, Matt. Down here they're almost over. :'(
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Nice to see your narcissus still out, Matt. Down here they're almost over. :'(
I believe that bulbs are slower into growth, because there is less of a contrast between our summer and autumn temperatures out here in the far west. So they flower later with us, despite our generally milder climate. However, I have also been out collecting ripe Narcissus seed today (N. romieuxii), so some plants do perform early with us.
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Hi here are some late flowering narcissus flowering in my garden, can anyone tell me what variety they are please. The name for this Narcissus is Bell Song, thanks Fermi.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/24/zevutyta.jpg)
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'Bell Song' perhaps?
http://daffseek.com/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Bell%20Song&lastpage=1& (http://daffseek.com/query/query-detail.php?cultivar=Bell%20Song&lastpage=1&)
cheers
fermi
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Thanks fermi the sites in available at the moment will check later.
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Hi
Can anyone tell me what this dwarf narcissus is? It is 6 inches tall and lemon in colour. The leaves are a light green, very thin and grass like. The Binny label refers to a different plant.
Sorry for the poor quality of the photos.
Thanks
Bob
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N. poeticus, the last one to bloom this season. ;)
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here we have the first
1 Narcissus calcicola
2 Narcissus rupicola
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Looks like your Spring has arrived Oleg.
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In full swing, David. Such a nice time!
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Hi here are two more narcissus i have in flower, the first is a unknown variety and the second is n. Poeticus
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/03/e8yju3at.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/03/asuvasez.jpg)