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Title: Hellebore Id please
Post by: ian mcenery on February 24, 2014, 06:54:37 PM
I grew this from species hellebore seed some years ago and lost the label.  I have my ideas but can anyone advise please
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
 Is it  Helleborus  multifidus hercegovinus ?
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 24, 2014, 07:08:44 PM
Is it  Helleborus  multifidus hercegovinus ?
I don't think the foliage is divided enough is it?
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
I don't think the foliage is divided enough is it?
No, I don't suppose it is .........
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: GordonT on February 24, 2014, 09:09:01 PM
I wonder if it could be H. cyclophyllus or H. odorus. Hard to tell these two species apart.
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: Tim Murphy on February 25, 2014, 07:23:14 AM
The long pedicels and the large bracts lead me to believe that your plant is H. dumetorum, Ian. The plant looks too demure for either H. cyclophyllus or H. odorus.
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: ian mcenery on February 25, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
The long pedicels and the large bracts lead me to believe that your plant is H. dumetorum, Ian. The plant looks too demure for either H. cyclophyllus or H. odorus.

Thank Tim that was my thought but I wasn't at all confident. I did think it might be cyclophyllus but the size of the plant is quite small

Thanks to everyone who helped some of these can be tricky
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on February 25, 2014, 12:50:22 PM
Tom Mitchell told me "That's one of the joys/frustrations of the genus. Unless you know where a plant is from, naming it accurately is well nigh impossible."
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: ian mcenery on February 25, 2014, 12:54:55 PM
Tom Mitchell told me "That's one of the joys/frustrations of the genus. Unless you know where a plant is from, naming it accurately is well nigh impossible."

Yes but did he also tell you that there is tremendous variation within single populations so it can be a bit of a lucky dip when the seed germinates ;)
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on February 25, 2014, 02:55:35 PM
Anyway, it's a specie hellebore! Good to grow them.
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: Tim Murphy on February 25, 2014, 07:00:24 PM
Yes but did he also tell you that there is tremendous variation within single populations so it can be a bit of a lucky dip when the seed germinates ;)

Here's a photo to illustrate that point. I took it in April 2006 in a colony of northern H. torquatus in Croatia, close to the border with Bosnia. From a horticultural point of view, the plants in this colony are the best I have ever seen. Plenty of double flowered plants at this site too.
Title: Re: Hellebore Id please
Post by: ian mcenery on February 26, 2014, 12:33:20 AM
Here's a photo to illustrate that point. I took it in April 2006 in a colony of northern H. torquatus in Croatia, close to the border with Bosnia. From a horticultural point of view, the plants in this colony are the best I have ever seen. Plenty of double flowered plants at this site too.

Tim looks wonderful
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