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Title: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: K-D Keller on February 07, 2014, 02:23:05 PM
After watering in Oktober 2013 and a few sunny days in Feruary 2014 Tecophilaea cyanocrocus opens the first flowers.

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: annew on February 07, 2014, 06:28:05 PM
That is very early! Nice to see the blue!
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Rogan on February 12, 2014, 05:16:43 AM
The first blooms of the season always take your breath away - fantastic blue!  8)
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Rogan on March 08, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
A gracious gift of seeds from a friend in South America (thanks Alberto!) gives me great pleasure once a year when the mature bulbs thrust their magnificent blooms above soil level - Rhodophiala bifida forms:
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Cyril L on March 10, 2014, 09:03:13 PM
An almost white Tecophilaea cyanocrocus.  I prefer the blue myself, but one is never happy.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on March 10, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
An almost white Tecophilaea cyanocrocus.  I prefer the blue myself, but one is never happy.

Or so lucky.  ;)

johnw
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 16, 2014, 06:21:37 PM
The Tecophilaea are more or less at their peak now. I'm still trying to get a good photo of them. One day.

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Jean-Patrick AGIER on March 21, 2014, 10:08:22 PM
Your tecophilea are really wonderful Mark! I still have a long way to go with mine...
Fortunately I'm invaded by Ipheion. They self seed everywhere in my containers.
Here are the first pictures
JP
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 22, 2014, 12:13:31 PM
very nice Ipheion JP! Here are the last of the Tecophilaea varities I have

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ashley on March 22, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Those potfuls of tecophilaeas are spectacular Mark :o 8)
How long have you been building them up?
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 23, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
I think probably something like 20 years.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ashley on March 23, 2014, 11:51:16 AM
My seedlings began flowering only in the last few years so have some way to go then ;)
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 23, 2014, 12:43:16 PM
My seedlings began flowering only in the last few years so have some way to go then ;)

Growing well they will increase vegetatively and if you save the seed you will soon build them up, Ashley.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Jean-Patrick AGIER on March 23, 2014, 09:49:23 PM
Some ipheion again...
JP
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ArnoldT on April 10, 2014, 03:50:56 PM
Leucocoryne purpurea
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on April 10, 2014, 04:07:28 PM
lovely Arnold, it looks as if after years of trying to flower them I'll have my first Leucocoryne flowering in the next week or so - I didn't even notice the flower spike until I popped out to the greenhouse after lunch.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ArnoldT on April 10, 2014, 04:28:07 PM
Mark:

That describes my experience as well.  It grew very quickly and amongst a forest of leaves I didn't notice it until it was 9 to 10 inches tall.

Color combination is really wonderful.

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on April 10, 2014, 04:42:27 PM
I can't remember which one I have - but I know it's an "alba" so no colour combination for me. I do have a number of seedlings - now I got some suggestions re treatment from this community I'm hoping I can get them to start building up to flower.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 13, 2014, 02:53:17 PM
The only South American oxalis I can grow is Oxalis lobata (some call it O. perdicaria)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on April 13, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
lovely, it's one of my autumn favourites. I have it in pots in the greenhouse but I have an escape in a trough now.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ArnoldT on April 13, 2014, 06:12:43 PM
Leucocoryne purpurea forest
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ArnoldT on April 19, 2014, 06:56:15 PM
A bigger Leucocoryne purpurea forest.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on April 20, 2014, 02:09:52 PM
My first Leucoryne is out. Came to me as ixiodies alba but I think ixiodies is whate anyway. Has a wonderful scent.

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 25, 2014, 10:17:37 AM
lovely, it's one of my autumn favourites. I have it in pots in the greenhouse but I have an escape in a trough now.
Hi Mark,
I'm quite fond of it as well, but I do wish that some of the other South American oxalis were available in Australia :(
Just starting is another yellow South American bulb - Ipheion (Nothoscordum) hirtellum,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on April 25, 2014, 01:47:38 PM
Nice Ipeion.

O.lobata is mor eor less the only South American Oxalis I grow. I suspect that many of the others prefer cooler conditions but that don't seem to work too well in troughs outside either.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ashley on April 25, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Can anyone suggest how to get Oxalis flava to flower? 
Having enjoyed the foliage for years I'm beginning to hanker for something more ::)

Sorry, wrong thread.  Maggi, can you move me to the right continent please?
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Jean-Patrick AGIER on April 25, 2014, 10:21:52 PM
Hello,
I'm very pleased to have a few Leucocoryne flowers this year.
These plants are difficult for me to grow. I've always failed in pots. The ones which have raised up have been planted in a container along with Ixia, Ipheion and Freesia ( hybrids ). I don't know whether they'll stand the next winter. The container will stay outside ( on my balcony ) and I'll try to keep it dry this summer.
Can anyone , please give advice on what I'm supposed to do?
Thanks in advance
JP
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ArnoldT on April 25, 2014, 11:43:01 PM
Jean:

I grow my Leucocoryne in a cool greenhouse (45 F) during the winter.  Summer months it goes to the basement where it stays dry and probably around 68 F.  It's a cool basement.

Around September I give all my South American and South African a drink and wait for growth.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Jean-Patrick AGIER on April 26, 2014, 09:46:14 PM
Jean:

I grow my Leucocoryne in a cool greenhouse (45 F) during the winter.  Summer months it goes to the basement where it stays dry and probably around 68 F.  It's a cool basement.

Around September I give all my South American and South African a drink and wait for growth.

Thanks Arnold,
I'll try to do my best
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Darren on June 08, 2014, 07:34:05 PM
The lovely little (8cm tall) Tigridia chiapensis today. Looks like several others in the pot are about to flower also. 
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: SJW on June 11, 2014, 01:50:54 PM
Not sure whether this question should go here or in the Grow from Seed thread...

I have a Hippeastrum papilio seedling (from the SRGC seedex), sown in February 2013. It's doing well on an east-facing windowsill and in the past few weeks has now produced five offsets.  So I'm interested to know if early offsetting is a feature of this species? I'm suprised that it can start to clump up at such a young age but perhaps it's just particular clones that do this? I should add that I've been feeding and watering the plant regularly.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: ArnoldT on June 12, 2014, 02:20:59 AM
Steve:
My only comment would be it may be plants a bit too deep.  I usually have mine at least 2/3 above soil level.

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: SJW on June 12, 2014, 11:21:04 PM
Steve:
My only comment would be it may be plants a bit too deep.  I usually have mine at least 2/3 above soil level.

Thanks, Arnold. I'll remove some of the surface compost to expose more of the bulb and set it higher the next time I repot. 
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on June 20, 2014, 03:38:07 PM
Having said that Oxalis lobata was more or less the only South American Oxalis I grow I've managed to recover some of my hybrids. This is Ione Hecker.

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on June 30, 2014, 11:43:23 AM
Like clockwork they come....Rhodophiala montana.

johnw
+20c @ 09:37
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on June 30, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
lovely plant John, but on the wrong thread?

 edit by maggi - not now it isn't!  ;)
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on June 30, 2014, 02:26:45 PM
Thanks all.  I'll blame the heat.

johnw
27c
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on June 30, 2014, 03:06:44 PM
:) It's a nice plant here too. I can't remember if I have that or not - I grew one from John Watson seed - still have it although it doesn't look as nice as yours.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on June 30, 2014, 04:01:13 PM
Mark - This one took ages to settle in and get going.  Once over the hump they seem to be relatively easy to grow.  It really seems to have no defined dormant period though it sluffs off some leaves in late Spring and late autumn.  We water it regularly, a little less in the winter.

johnw
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on June 30, 2014, 04:10:05 PM
Just checked - mine is also montana. I've had it since 1993 as AJW 93/S73. I had two plants then down to one.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on July 06, 2014, 06:53:09 PM
Here's the Rhodophiala montana today.......

john
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on July 07, 2014, 09:19:20 AM
very nice - mine is pure yellow. I think it may now be going into a decline - it's not flowered for some time - need to see if I can revitalise it and maybe get some seed off it.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 03, 2014, 02:22:11 PM
Andrew, a member of FCHS, brought this boxful to the Rock Garden Group meeting on Saturday,
Tecophilea cyanocrocus and T. violiflora,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on August 03, 2014, 02:49:42 PM
very nice - Fermi did you mean T.cyanocrocus var violacea?
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 03, 2014, 02:54:22 PM
 :-[
yes, Mark!
Have a look at the August in the Southern hemisphere thread for more pics,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on August 09, 2014, 01:59:15 PM
In flower today :  Rhodophiala bakeri
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on August 09, 2014, 04:17:38 PM
Kris - Wondering how you distinguish R. montana from bakeri?  Is it the flower shape?

A leafless Rhodophiala advena in flower here today.  Colour is quite peely-wally.

johnw
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: jshields on August 09, 2014, 04:32:38 PM
Eustephia darwinii is native to Peru.  I had thought it was summer dormant and winter-growing, like the specimen shown here.  The first sign of its coming out of dormancy is blooming.

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Now I have heard that it is summer growing and dormant in winter.  Perhaps, on the Andes near the Equator, there is not a lot of difference between the two.

Jim
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on August 09, 2014, 05:53:47 PM
Kris - Wondering how you distinguish R. montana from bakeri?  Is it the flower shape?
A leafless Rhodophiala advena in flower here today.  Colour is quite peely-wally.
johnw

Don't know John , this is what was written on the seedpacket ........
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on August 09, 2014, 06:01:31 PM
Jim  - I think I may need cardiac resuscitation after that Eustephia darwinii picture.  Wonderful.

johnw
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on August 09, 2014, 06:02:36 PM
Don't know John , this is what was written on the seedpacket ........

With Rhodophiala probably the best way to label them! ;)

johnw
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: jshields on August 09, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
With Rhodophiala probably the best way to label them! ;)

johnw

Same here -- I have great faith in Telos labels!

Jim
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on August 16, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Years ago I received seed of a bulb from Harry Jans.  The original source was Goteborg and was labelled Hippeastrum elwesii. We eventually had to change that to Rhodophiala elwesii and then to R. araucana and now temporarily ( ???) to R. montana.  In any event when the seedlings first flowered we had yellows and peaches.  Several years ago I selfed the yellows and the first seedling has flowered rosy-red with a greenish throat!  And the timing is suspicious as it is nearly in sync with a nearby R. advena and looks rather similar; I posted a photo of that advena recently.

What am I to make of it all?

johnw   
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on August 16, 2014, 05:31:24 PM
I have been repotting dormant Rhodophiala spp. this afternoon, some are from 2008 and others from 2011 seed.  The following ones were found almost at the very bottom of the very long toms.   The unsprouted seeds were still very much intact.

johnw
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: johnw on August 16, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
And these two species were only halfway down the very long toms and are fairly evergreen and rooty despite being dormant.  The Rhodophiala montana is not following the dormancy pattern of the montana mentioned 2 posts ago - time will tell.

Brilliant day here, 20c, sunny and 2" of very much needed rain yesterday.

johnw
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on August 26, 2014, 10:52:07 AM
These lovely Worsleya pictures  were  shared  to the SRGC page from forumist Jose of the
Iturraran Botanical Garden, in the  Basque Country, Northern Coastal Spain

The colour is lovely- almost unique, do  you think?

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: David Nicholson on August 26, 2014, 11:25:56 AM
Lovely.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 28, 2014, 02:47:27 PM
That "blue hippeastrum" is stunning; we'd need a heated greenhouse to keep it happy here :(
A more humble offering is this Nothoscordum felipponei flowering in pots as well as in the garden,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on August 28, 2014, 03:44:53 PM

A more humble offering is this Nothoscordum felipponei flowering in pots as well as in the garden,
cheers
fermi
Love that yellow - another plant that has been chopped and changed , namewise, umpteen times - think Tristagma sellowianum (Kunth) Traub is showing a Kews' current fave!

Is it any wonder we can get confused?
Beauverdia felipponei (Beauverd) Herter    
Beauverdia sellowiana (Kunth) Herter    
Brodiaea felipponei (Beauverd) Herter    
Brodiaea sellowiana (Kunth) Baker    
Hookera sellowiana (Kunth) Kuntze    
Ipheion felipponei (Beauverd) Traub    
Ipheion sellowianum (Kunth) Traub    
Milla sellowiana (Kunth) Baker    
Nothoscordum felipponei Beauverd    
Nothoscordum ostenii P. Beauv.    
Tristagma felipponei (Beauverd) Traub    
Triteleia sellowiana Kunth 

 ::) :-X    
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Mark Griffiths on August 29, 2014, 03:20:43 PM
Now for something more common - but still a favourite for me, Oxalis lobata.

Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: jshields on September 14, 2014, 07:17:29 PM
Griffinia espiritensis from Telos, blooming under lights in the basement:

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and Rhodophiala auracana, also from Telos, blooming outdoors on the deck:

[attach=2]

This is not a commercial for Telos, but Diana does ship nice plants.

Jim
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on September 14, 2014, 07:52:17 PM
I know I've heard lots of good reports about Telos, :
http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ (http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/)  and they do ship overseas from California to any country that does not restrict the importation of bulbs.
and they have a blog.....
http://www.thebulbmaven.typepad.com/ (http://www.thebulbmaven.typepad.com/)        :)   
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 01, 2014, 10:34:08 AM
Alstroemeria pelegrina from AGS Seedex 2011, first flower just opening today,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 09, 2014, 10:43:11 AM
A week later the flower of the Alstroemeria pelegrina ia still looking good in the shade-house.
And in the garden the clump of Sisyrinchium palmifolium is bulking up - you can see the stems from last year were much shorter than this year's,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Robert on November 10, 2014, 02:47:58 PM
Fermi,

The Sisyrinchium palmifolium looks quite lovely!

Is it xeric as some of our California species are? i.e. S. bellum, etc.
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 26, 2014, 05:43:18 AM
Fermi,

The Sisyrinchium palmifolium looks quite lovely!

Is it xeric as some of our California species are? i.e. S. bellum, etc.
Hi Robert,
I don't think that it's xeric - at least this one is growing in a garden bed which gets watered regularly which is why I think it's growing so well! Maybe Anthony in Auckland can say if he grows it in a xeric bed?
Here's the first flowering on Alstroemeria hookeri for the year,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Bulbs from South America 2014
Post by: Robert on November 26, 2014, 01:41:33 PM
Thanks Fermi. Some of our native Sisyrinchiums are xeric, others are not. S. palmifolium looks like a worthy plant for the garden. I'll have to give it a try.

The Alstroemeria hookeri is beautiful! Very nice.

Cheers
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