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Title: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 28, 2014, 09:29:58 AM
I just got 2 new snowdrop books for my birthday, and have had a quick look through so far. I'm looking forward to reading them properly later, but the initial response from both me and my husband to many of the photos was - "Why on earth have they named that?" So many look completely unremarkable, even given that their habit may be exceptional. In any group of seedlings there are ones similar  to these, and I wouldn't dream of naming every tiny variation.
Conversation then turned to what we would call any seedlings, should we decide to. Husband suggested 'T'white'un'. This quickly degenerated into 'T'yeller'un', T'early'un, T'late'un', T'green'un' etc etc and a giggling fit.
I know this isn't going to mean much to anyone outside Yorkshire, but there are some Tykes out there who might appreciate it. Watch this space!
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: David Nicholson on January 28, 2014, 09:34:26 AM
This one did ;D Anne will you reserve 't'odd 'un' in the unlikely event that there is something different out there? :P
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 28, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
 ;D ;D I've already seen a few 'T'ugly'un's. Flippin' eck - too many apostrophes!
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 28, 2014, 10:31:07 AM
Should be a few on eBay labelled T'expensive un, or T'rake in the cash  ::)
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 28, 2014, 11:37:52 AM
T'bandwagon...
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: SJW on January 28, 2014, 12:10:34 PM
Should be a few on eBay labelled T'expensive un, or T'rake in the cash  ::)

'Appen tha's reight, Brian. But tha' wunt gerra Tyke buying owt expensive off Ebay (the Yorkshire version is presumably Eeebygumbay)!

There's a poem called 'Snowdrop' by Ted Hughes who was born in West Yorkshire. Not the cheeriest verse...

Now is the globe shrunk tight
Round the mouse’s dulled wintering heart.
Weasel and crow, as if moulded in brass,
Move through an outer darkness
Not in their right minds,
With the other deaths. She, too, pursues her ends,
Brutal as the stars of this month,
Her pale head heavy as metal.

Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 28, 2014, 12:33:59 PM
Well, I feel better for that....
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 28, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
T'con
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Darren on January 28, 2014, 12:50:10 PM
'Appen tha's reight, Brian. But tha' wunt gerra Tyke buying owt expensive off Ebay (the Yorkshire version is presumably Eeebygumbay)!

There's a poem called 'Snowdrop' by Ted Hughes who was born in West Yorkshire. Not the cheeriest verse...

Now is the globe shrunk tight
Round the mouse’s dulled wintering heart.
Weasel and crow, as if moulded in brass,
Move through an outer darkness
Not in their right minds,
With the other deaths. She, too, pursues her ends,
Brutal as the stars of this month,
Her pale head heavy as metal.


His first missus Sylvia Plath wrote a similarly cheerful one called 'Tulips' (Which is one of my favourite poems actually).  Makes you wonder what their garden was like.....

I can't get over this Yorkshire humour. As a Lancastrian I was always brought up to believe it equated to the Lady Slipper in rarity.... ;) ;D

Never believed  a word of it of course. Southern humour however......

Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on January 28, 2014, 01:36:31 PM
As they say, you can always tell a Yorkshireman, but you can`t tell him much!
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: David Nicholson on January 28, 2014, 02:04:46 PM
True Ralph, very true!

Cheerful soul old Ted was. Of course the major problem in his life was being born so close to the Lancashire border.

Now Darren, you have to take into account that we Yorkies and Lancies are really still fighting the Wars of the Roses so we haven't a lot of time for humour (and what there is is on the right-hand side of the Pennines looking up. Not one of the battles in the Wars of the Roses was actually fought in either Yorkshire or Lancashire (as far as I remember) as both parties strongly subscribe to the view that why mucky your own back-yard when you can mucky someone else's.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 28, 2014, 02:19:21 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: SJW on January 28, 2014, 04:38:44 PM
As they say, you can always tell a Yorkshireman, but you can`t tell him much!

Ralph -the other one is that it's easy to spot someone from Yorkshire because they'll tell you in the first two minutes. :)

Darren - I think we have to grudgingly admit that Lancashire has produced some fine comics. ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Palustris on January 28, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
Wars of the Roses always amused me. The majority of Lancashire fought for the Yorkist side and the majority of Yorkshire was Lancastrian.
Lets face it Galanthus are just white blobs to the vast majority of folks. and who wants to crawl on hands and knees in early winter trying to see minute differences betwixt these blobs?
And how about T'stolenone?
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 28, 2014, 05:13:12 PM
I absolutely don't have ANY of those!!
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Darren on January 28, 2014, 05:48:20 PM

Darren - I think we have to grudgingly admit that Lancashire has produced some fine comics. ;D

Stan Laurel and Eric Morecambe both being unsurpassed examples.  Susan worked for 20 plus years in Ulverston where Stan was born, and now we live only 4 miles from Eric's home town. Weird coincidence as I'd have liked them both wherever we lived!

I'm told even the term 'War of the Roses' was only coined a couple of centuries after the event. Yorkies and Lankies are like a family really - we might bicker but we soon stand together against outsiders!
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Palustris on January 28, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
I meant stolen from you, not anything else.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 28, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
I know.. :-*
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Mavers on January 29, 2014, 12:45:17 PM
It's refreshing to see our fellow forumist Matt favouring the 'Buy It Now' style of selling his snowdrops rather than the ebay auction where prices shoot heavenward.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: hwscot on January 30, 2014, 09:25:12 PM
Ave nowt te say on this thread as can acshally be said wiart some xxx tekkin affence. Onyroad, up ere 'only white roses a fe 'jacobites. Appen al keep mi gob shut.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Maggi Young on January 30, 2014, 09:31:55 PM
Aye aye, Harry, I was wondering if this thread would make you "out" yourself!  ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: hwscot on January 30, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
We could do translations ...

Nowt much.
G. elwesii Think On
Sir Erbert Maxwell
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: hwscot on January 30, 2014, 09:39:05 PM
Aye aye, Harry, I was wondering if this thread would make you "out" yourself!  ;D

Nay, lass, a think back wi orrer on 'fust tahm a trahd to mek missen compre'ended in Aberdeen ..  not one on em talked reight
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Gerard Oud on January 31, 2014, 11:47:39 AM
T'bad  ai hav to reed it 2 or 3 times to fully understand it and i am Dutch ;D
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: vivienr on January 31, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
It has cheered me up reading all this on a grey wet morning.
It brought back memories of when we first moved to Yorkshire about 17 years ago and my youngest son was at primary school. Walking home with him one afternoon he piped up "What's that in t'road?". I nearly fell over!

My favorite expression is 't'internet' used by locals and non-locals alike!
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 31, 2014, 09:41:35 PM
One o' T'yelleruns..
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Maggi Young on January 31, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
Galanthus 'Dryad Gold 5 ' is lovely, Anne.  By the name it is "one you made earlier" - have I missed this being shown previously?
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on January 31, 2014, 09:52:14 PM
It's one of the group of seedlings from Wendy's Gold x lutescens that I showed last year. As a working name, I'm using 'Dryad Gold series' with a clone number so I can put DG1, DG5 etc on the labels. Saves graphite. ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Tim Ingram on January 31, 2014, 10:04:54 PM
Super plant Anne, and beautifully photographed.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 31, 2014, 10:08:48 PM
What a lovely pot of snowdrops Anne ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Maggi Young on January 31, 2014, 10:14:38 PM
It's one of the group of seedlings from Wendy's Gold x lutescens that I showed last year. As a working name, I'm using 'Dryad Gold series' with a clone number so I can put DG1, DG5 etc on the labels. Saves graphite. ;)
Aha, I remember now - and here's a link to Anne's great post with  a compilation of an array of the seedlings -
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10048.msg266373#msg266373 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10048.msg266373#msg266373) - this post  bears further study!!

 and also these relevant  posts :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6443.msg181653#msg181653 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6443.msg181653#msg181653)
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9912.msg264358#msg264358 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9912.msg264358#msg264358)
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Alan_b on January 31, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
That's a lovely pot of snowdrops, Anne.  But judging by the number you have, it must be a minimum of 8 years since you actually made the crosses.  I wish I had your foresight.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on February 01, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
The seeds were sown in 2006 - the ones in the pot have been chipped
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: loes on February 01, 2014, 10:19:33 AM
Very nice yellow Anne
Is it number 5 in the in the photo's of last year?
The others doing as good as this one?
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: chasw on February 01, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
Very nice Anne  ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: Alan_b on February 01, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
The seeds were sown in 2006 - the ones in the pot have been chipped

That's excellent progress, Anne.  Have you thought about cross breeding some of the virescent snowdrops?  A Lutescent (?) snowdrop (i.e. yellow rather than green) would be something to behold.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: annew on February 01, 2014, 06:43:58 PM
Working on it... Yes, that's number 5 from last year. It just happens to be the one in a pot on its own, most of the others are keeping each other company in baskets. It's not as easy to assess them like that, though.
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: hwscot on February 03, 2014, 08:07:22 AM
T'bad  ai hav to reed it 2 or 3 times to fully understand it and i am Dutch ;D

Fair point well made, Gerard, but you ARE exceptionally polyglot and Yorkshire is far and away the most important of the English dialects. I would be happy to give some private tuitiion in return for a few of your poa galanthus ;)
Title: Re: Snowdrop names
Post by: hwscot on February 03, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
One o' T'yelleruns..

It's a belter, Anne, but I thought the whole group you posted photos of last year looked good.

Does anyone still say 'Bobby Dazzler'?
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