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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: art600 on January 16, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
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The unusually warm weather has meant the early emergence of Fritillaria.
I am very pleased with my Frit karelinii - they started to flower at end November.
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very nice, Arthur!
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Wow, nice ones!
Frits are on the top of my bulb list (maybe just under lilies).
I'll have to remember the name and see where I can also get me some :)
Warm weather... same thing over here. I got a full plastic box of F. persica seedlings that I just saw emerging from the dirt a couple days ago.
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beautiful, Arthur
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Very nice indeed!!!
My small collection of rhinos have only just broken cover.
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Very nice indeed!!!
My small collection of rhinos have only just broken cover.
Sounds like a good opportunity for you to use another one of your wildlife pics, Steve, ;D
cheers
fermi
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My small collection of rhinos have only just broken cover.
Steve, my advice would be to stand very still. Apparently their eyesight isn't great ;) ;D
Beautiful F. karelinii and a great start to the season Art 8)
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Sounds like a good opportunity for you to use another one of your wildlife pics, Steve, ;D
cheers
fermi
Hmmm, what have you started Fermi?
Steve, my advice would be to stand very still. Apparently their eyesight isn't great ;) ;D
Beautiful F. karelinii and a great start to the season Art 8)
It's too late Ashley, I think I've been spotted:-
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/9871289883_a8feca4bc7_z.jpg)
Not to worry as my daughter Alice is the Rhino-whisperer:-
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4108/4969382902_03fe6ba001_z.jpg)
(Upper image is a Southern White Rhino at Lake Nakuru, N.P. Kenya.
Lower image is of a large male Black Rhino and the fearless Alice at Ol Pejeta Conservancy, Kenya)
Sorry for intruding on your thread Arthur. I hope my Frit. karelinii turn out as good as yours!
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Steve
When you have photos as good as yours to show..... :)
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I am very pleased with my Frit karelinii
No need to explain Arthur . We see the evidence . Very very nice.
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I am very pleased with my Frit karelinii - they started to flower at end November.
Arthur, a lovely 'autumn flowering' fritillary! :) Unusual to see F. karelinii flowering so early.
The only one in bud here is Frit crassifolia.
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And so you should be pleased Arthur, it is beautiful (and difficult?). The spotting is delightful.
Super rhino pictures. Where are the Wildlife threads? More please Steve.
It's way out of season but I wanted to ask confirmation or otherwise of the frit below, from FGAGS seed, as F. monantha. It flowered here (NZ) very late (November), the first time but another the same also flowered a couple of weeks earlier, from the previous year's sowing.
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Cyril
I found this picture of one that flowered early December.
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Lesley, I have never grown Frit. monantha but there was some email correspondence regarding a plant I submitted as Frit aff. monantha to the Joint Rock, subsequently identified as Frit. walujewii.
This is from Martyn Rix himself (does it fit your plant? maybe):
I have little knowledge of F. monantha Migo. Here is my preliminary account, for what it is worth.
All good wishes, Martyn.
FRITILLARIA MONANTHA
History Fritillaria monantha was described by Hisao Migo (b. 1905), in 1939 from specimens collected in south-eastern Hunan, in the Tien Mu mountains. This was a time when the Japanese were consolidating their power across Korea, Manchuria and eastern China, and studying the floras of these areas. I have never seen this species growing and the description here is taken from notes of herbarium specimens and the account in Flora Sinica.
Recognition and Variation Fritillaria monantha can be recognised by its combination of large flowers with nectaries 6–10mm long, broad often whorled leaves, deeply divided style and 6–8mm wide wings on the capsule. The flowers are greenish or white variously tessellated or spotted with purple.
Subspecies, varieties and synonyms The daunting list of synonyms below is taken from Flora Sinica. The illustration of F. hupehensis which accompanies the original description shows long narrowly lanceolate leaves, a whorl of 4 at the base, a whorl of 3 in mid stem and 3 bract leaves with coiled tips, and a large, rather narrow heavily tessellated flower. The illustration of F. huangshanensis which accompanies the original description shows a 2-flowered specimen, the leaves linear to 15mm wide, not cirrhose, all whorled, with 3–5 in a whorl; the flowers square at the base and heavily tessellated.
Geography, distribution and habitat Found scattered through China in Anhui, (Huangshan); Henan (San Chen co.), Hubei, Jiangxi, E. Sichuan and Zhejiang, in forests and moist places on limestone hills and floodlands, at 100-1600m. Var. tonglinensis from Tong ling
Cultivation This species should grow well under the same conditions as F. thunbergii.
Fritillaria monantha Migo. in Journ. Shanghai Sci. Inst., sect. 3, 4: 139(1939). Syn. F. guizhouensis Y. K. Yang & al.
F. huangshanensis Y. K. Yang & C. J. Wu in Acta Bot. Bor.-Occ. Sinica 5(1): 41(1985)
F. huangshanensis f. tonglingensis (S. C. Chen & S. F. Yin) Y. K. Yang & Y. H. Zhang
F. hupehensis P.K. Hsiao & K. C. Hsia in S.C. Chen & K. C. Hsia, Acta Phytotax. Sin. 15(2):39(1977)
F. lichuanensis P. Li & C. P. Yang
F. monantha var. ningguonica Y. K. Yang & M.M. Fang
F. monantha var.tonglingensis S. C. Chen & S. F. Yin
F. ningguoensis S. C. Chen & S. F. Yin; F. puqiensis G.D. Yu & C. Y. Chen
F. qimenensis D. C. Zhang & J. Z. Shao in Acta Phytotax. Sin. 29(5) 474(1991)
F. thunbergii Miq. var. puqiensis (G.D. Yu & C. Y. Chen) P. K. Hsiao & S. C. Yu.
F. wanjiangensis Y. K. Yang et al.
Bulb to 2cm across. Stem 20-60cm (-100cm). Leaves oblong-lanceolate to lanceolate, 5-12 cm long, 1.5-3cm wide, opposite, whorled or alternate, apex especially of the bract leaves often curled. Flowers usually solitary, or up to 4, tubular bell-shaped, square at the base, inside pale greenish-yellow, tessellated, sometimes heavily with purple or reddish-purple, the tessellations showing through; scent not recorded. Tepals 3.5-5cm long, the inner to 2cm wide, oblong-obovate to oblong, the outer narrower, around1cm wide. Nectary large, conspicuous on the outside of the tepal. Filaments 20mm, smooth or slightly papillose. Style 20mm, the branches 3-8mm, smooth. Capsule shortly cylindric, 1.5-2cm, wings around 6-8mm wide.
E. China in Anhui, Henan, Hubei, Jiangxi, Sichuan and Zhejiang, in forests and moist places on limestone hills and floodlands, at 100-1600m, flowering from March to June.
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Cyril
I found this picture of one that flowered early December.
Arthur, very early flowering again. All rhinopetalum frits are nice but F. karelinii is not the easiest to grow. Well done.
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Thank you Cyril. I'll have to wait at least 9 months I guess, to check on most of that. Certainly the leaves were in whorls and I thought they were of a lily until it flowered as all the other frits had finished, even F. camschatcensis which is usually the last here. I didn't look especially at the nectaries which was remiss of me. One of the two pots was labelled as Rosemary Cox being the seed source, the other without a source, just the year earlier date. I need to keep better records. I've now repotted both into a single pot and they are looking quite strong and plump so I hope both will flower in our spring. I've had F. hupehensis before and it was similar as I recall but about 30cms in height while both these reached only about 10 cms but that could be because they were so young and also because they were in less than ideal conditions.
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Updated photos of Fritillaria karelinii
I have tickled them so hope to get some seed.
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very nice.
My pink frit on it's way is F.pluriflora. Isn't alburyana also early?
Three unrelated pink frits all early flowerers, curious.
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I don't have F. pluriflora, or not flowering size anyway but stenanthera is usually in August (February to you) and alburyana flowers in July (Jan). Such a joy is what is mid winter here, our coldest month but usually fine and sunny. The nasty stuff seems to come later most years.
For me, F. alburyana has been amazingly resilient. It has been eaten off at ground level, bashed to the trough surface and broken by winds, suffered from botrytis occasionally and died off before the flower opened, and generally led a difficult life yet every year it has come up again in full glory, the bulb remaining plump and firm.
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Arthur : Nice specie, i'm surprised it's already flowering.
Does karelinii is pink with spotted petals? Few years ago i grew a bulb bough to Paul C. and it was pure pink.
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Yann
A friend has one that is bright pink :)
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Here are a few of mine in flower now:
F. striata
F. ariana - this plant is large but never offsets nor, sadly, sets seed
F. gibbosa flowering for the first time from Norman Stevens
F. chitralensis
Cheers,
Alex
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very nice Alex, I particularly like the striata.
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Stunning Frits!!!
I'm also very taken by the striata!
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Nice Alex I am some years away from flowering chitralensis hopefully. Here are some of what I have in flower now.
Colin
F. ariana
F. gibbosa a
F. gibbosa b
F. gibbosa c
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And here is striata.
Colin
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Beautiful Frits, Colin, I love the range of gibbosas and you are very fortunate to have several bulbs of striata - mine has been resolutely single for years.
Alex
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I am extremely envious of those of you with F. striata - what an stunner it is. Such delicate and interesting flower shape - just beautiful!
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I love F. chitralensis too, but have yet to find a source of seed so would welcome any suggestions.
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Me too I am very envious of growers who flower F. striata. Any tips Alex and Colin? I have several pots grown from seeds (some 6-7 years old) but have yet to see a flower. Patience is a virtue! I have had more success with the closely related F. pluriflora which have flowered repeatedly although I am now reduced to growing seedlings from these plants.
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Does anyone know of a commercial source of seed for Frit. striata?
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I have never seen seeds of F. striata offered commercially. However the Fritillaria Group, and SRGC/AGS/NARGS seed exchange sometimes lists it.
I love F. chitralensis too, but have yet to find a source of seed so would welcome any suggestions.
Ashley, I have only seen seeds of Fritillaria chitralensis offered in the Fritillaria Group seed exchange (donated by Brian Mathew).
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I have had F. striata from three sources: Frit group seed (sown last year so bulbs still small), Telos rare bulbs (they sell small bulbs, prob. available again this year) and a now closed nursery called Ad Hoc plants, from where the plant in the photo came about 8 years ago. The F. chitralensis came as a bulb from Janis, so maybe he plans to offer it again soon?
Cyril, I don't have any special tips for flowering striata, but it gets a warm, dry (not completely, a little residual moisture in the plunge) Summer here in the South, and I suspect that may be the difference.
Cheers,
Alex
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Seed of both striata and chitralenis has come from the Frit. Group and I have been lucky enough to also have been sent it unexpectedly in the post.
As to getting them to flower like all Fritillaria keep growing as long as possible and feed with a high potash fertilizer. One other thing with striata because it comes through so early here it does end up in the frost free greenhouse. This could impact on the bud formation or stop them from aborting. Hope this is of some use.
Colin
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Ashley, I have only seen seeds of Fritillaria chitralensis offered in the Fritillaria Group seed exchange (donated by Brian Mathew).
The F. chitralensis came as a bulb from Janis, so maybe he plans to offer it again soon?
Seed of both striata and chitralenis has come from the Frit. Group and I have been lucky enough to also have been sent it unexpectedly in the post.
Thank you all. Time to renew my FG membership then.
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Thank you Alex and Colin. I keep all the American frits dryish under the staging in Summer but maybe it is just not warm enough. I do feed regularly but the small bulbs seem to take ages to get to any size.
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Fritillaria chitralensis flowering now, quite low but the stems will elongate soon.
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Beautiful, Cyril.
Alex
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Fritillaria bucharica starting to bloom
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Fritillaria raddeana
i don't know what's happen this year but the plant is in bloom and the floral stem doesn't elongate.
Several flowers are already withered. May be it's due to the hot temperatures in the greenhouse?
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Two Frits from Iran
1. Fritillaria assyriaca?
2. Fritillaria spec. nova
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Arthur the first shot doesn't look like assyriaca
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Arthur the first shot doesn't look like assyriaca
Insofar as I can judge from a photo, it looks like F. elwesii, albeit a very small one. Does it get taller
Arthur?
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Gerry
As far as I know Frit elwesii does not grow in Iran.
The Frit does get taller - about 3 inches.
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Arthur - I think we've had this exchange before. I don't believe that plants take any notice of geopolitical boundaries.
I attach a scan of the relevant bit of Flora of Turkey (Martin Rix) - sorry about the quality. The style seems important in identifying the species & unfortunately this is not too clear in your photo.
Edit - I've re-done this post with slightly better scans - this website refuses to accept 210kb!
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My apologies for the mess above - I got fed-up with trying to get the web page to do as I wished.
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My apologies for the mess above - I got fed-up with trying to get the web page to do as I wished.
It looks fine to me Gerry ( the forum has has a 200kb limit per item for some time now )
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Fritillaria sp nova from Arthur
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Fritillaria sp nova from Arthur
:o :o :o What a stunning Frit Tony ! Wel done to Arthur to offcourse .
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Very attractive and so compact. 8)
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Tony
So much better than mine this year. A perfect specimen :) ;D :)
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Damn this one is really special. lovely :P
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Fritillaria sp nova from Arthur
Very nice fritillaria Tony.
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Not rare or difficult
Fritillaria pudica
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Two weeks later, the Fritillaria chitralensis has gone taller but still only 6-7 inches.
Fritillaria crassifolia ssp. crassifolia from Palendoken, E Turkey.
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Two weeks later, the Fritillaria chitralensis has gone taller but still only 6-7 inches.
Fritillaria crassifolia ssp. crassifolia from Palendoken, E Turkey.
Both different , but both great plants Cyril. I like the ones with the flowers on the ground !
Just like they grow somewhere in Turkey.
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Two Frits from Iran
1. Fritillaria assyriaca?
2. Fritillaria spec. nova
It has been suggested that this might be Fritillaria chlororhabdota - I hope so :)
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Hi Arthur I got this as F. chlororhabdota but have been told it is F. assytiaca sp. iranica, but like you I would like it to be F. chlororhabdota. Would any one like to put their neck on the line?
Colin
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Both different , but both great plants Cyril. I like the ones with the flowers on the ground !
Just like they grow somewhere in Turkey.
Interesting that the Frit. crassifolia always remains low even in dull winter weather. I have it for 10 years (a kind gift from Norman Stevens) but it is the first time it has so many flowers.
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This fritillaria flowering for the first time was grown from Jim Archibald seeds, JJA 0492808, Fritillaria chlorantha, Ex Iran Lorestan Ex G Bakhshi Khanishii 088 (if I can read my own handwriting on the label!), sown 29/09/07.
It's not the expected flower which is normally greeny yellow and flares at the mouth. I wonder whether this is really F. chlorantha or if there has been a mix-up somewhere. Is anybody growing plants from this collection?
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Hi Arthur I got this as F. chlororhabdota but have been told it is F. assytiaca sp. iranica, but like you I would like it to be F. chlororhabdota. Would any one like to put their neck on the line?
Colin
This is my F. chlororhabdota, from the Wallises in 2004. Coiln, yours look vaguely similar.
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Thanks Cyril I never did change the label and now I will be more comfortable to put seed into exchanges.
Plus a few more bits in flower:-
F. caucasica
A sibling cross of (F. karelinii x gibbosa)
F. euboeica
F. serpenticola (I think it is now recognized as a species and not a sub species)
F. latifolia inside of flower (nobilis)
I do like the markings inside latifolia.
cOLIN
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Fritillaria gibbosa clone 1
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7389/12910934805_36618b4b0a_o.jpg)
Fritillaria gibbosa clone 2
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3745/12911371184_ce10112e09_o.jpg)
Fritillaria karelinii clone 1
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3781/12911033643_d44b6a75c6_o.jpg)
Fritillaria karelinii clone 2
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7460/12910935515_aff84e9437_o.jpg)
Fritillaria serpenticola
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3755/12911034263_44de0a31fa_o.jpg)
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Steve
Wow :) ;D :)
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This is my F. chlororhabdota, from the Wallises in 2004. Coiln, yours look vaguely similar.
Cyril
I am now sure my plant is chlororhabdota. Thanks for posting the picture,
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Cyril
I am now sure my plant is chlororhabdota. Thanks for posting the picture,
Arthur, I agree your plant is F. chlororhabdota too.
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Fritillaria sp nova from Arthur
Amazing fritillaria!!!
And what is this species? I first see this form. From where is she?
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Wow, to me there's only been that Fritillaria imperialis, usually the orange, some F. persica (growing now from seeds, second season) and a couple F . uva-vulpis that everyone around here has.
But I'm learning there's more to it.
I am more attracted to the vivid colored, wide-opened blooms, like that F. gibbosa or F. karelinii...
Will be surely making a list and see what seeds are available in the summer (fall).
:)
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Amazing fritillaria!!!
And what is this species? I first see this form. From where is she?
IRAN
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Fritillaria poluninii
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7336/12977818534_1ec1137664_o.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7336/12977390615_4f4744d6e0_o.jpg)
.........another wee Iranian frit.
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Fritillaria koidzumiana
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.........another wee Iranian frit.
Wow, that's lovely, great photos too. 8)
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F. pluriflora - I've had it for about 20 or so years, never divided, I got seed off it one year but all the seedlings died over the years. Maybe this year I'll be lucky.
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Can someone tell me if the white form of F. persica, 'Ivory Bells', would normally flower at a different time to the usual purple form(s)?.
I have had several largish pots of the white form for a while (one label says October 2011) and the non flowering shoots (now ~30-40 cms high) have been in growth for 2 months or so, originally in a frame but the storms wrecked it a month or so back, so mostly in the open on the north side but close to the house. Last week another 5 shoots appeared in one of the pots, maybe to flower, probably not. Last autumn I acquired 4 bulbs of the purple form, and in pots they only broke the surface a week or two back.
Is it my currently irregular growing regime or do some forms differ in emerging and flowering times? I should be finally planting them in the open garden soon.
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Mark very nice pluriflora.
Two of mine
Fritillaria obliqua this came from Vladimil Pilous in 1996
Fritillaria crassifolia from Turkey tendurek Pass
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Fritillaria minuta
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That's lovely Philip. The only time mine flowered there was so much foliage from non-flowering bulbs, the flower was invisible without manual help. :(
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Thank you Lesley.This doesn't seem to have increased since last year,so not that problem yet.My F.pudica seems to increase rapidly in the compost while decreasing in flower numbers.
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Mine too Philip. More leaves each year, fewer flowers. ???
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Fritillaria argolica from Poros Greece
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Happy memories
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Some Fritillaria crassifolia
First photo shows Frits bought from Augis - shows Fritillaria crassifolia kurdica (Talysh strain)
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A couple of middle eastern ones from me, F. kurdica (Iran) and F. hermonis. I particularly like the hermonis.
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Fritillaria bithynica subsp. carica
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Fritillaria crassifolia subsp. kurdica
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Those last two pictures are really lovely, showing an orangey hue in this form. Very nice.
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Fritillaria crassifolia ex Hosap.
Quite ordinary and the only point of interest is that they have been grown in pure cat litter using the method described by Wisley.
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Fritillaria crassifolia ex Hosap.
Quite ordinary and the only point of interest is that they have been grown in pure cat litter using the method described by Wisley.
Nice plant Tony!!!
Is there an online link to the Wisley method?
Tiddles will have to cross his legs!
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Is there an online link to the Wisley method?
I think this is it. (The PDF is too large to post):
"Growing Fritillarias in clay granules " by Paul Cumbleton
http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/RHS-Publications/Journals/The-Plantsman/2009-Issues/September/d-Frit-cultn-small (http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/RHS-Publications/Journals/The-Plantsman/2009-Issues/September/d-Frit-cultn-small)
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My apologies, this link seems not to work with either Firefox or Safari. Very odd.
Try Googling for 'Fritillaria Paul Cumbleton'.
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Gerry, I have corrected the link for you :
"Growing Fritillarias in clay granules " by Paul Cumbleton
http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/RHS-Publications/Journals/The-Plantsman/2009-Issues/September/d-Frit-cultn-small (http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/RHS-Publications/Journals/The-Plantsman/2009-Issues/September/d-Frit-cultn-small)
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Many thanks Gerry & Maggi! ;)
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Thanks Maggi.
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Fritillaria crassifolia ssp kurdica Talysh
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F. persica is easy to come by in our area and easy to grow. I always enjoy it and will continue to grow it. :)
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What a lovely persica ,not a hope here of growing it.
Fritillaria poluninii a gift
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Why Tony? What's wrong with F. persica and England in the same sentence?
Something lacking over there for it to thrive?
I'm asking cause I'm currently growing some seedlings (sowed last year).
So far so good, came up nicely, both in a pot and in the garden.
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I have permanently wet heavy clay and it rains most days(literally),I think that answers the question.In winter much of the garden is waterlogged for weeks on end in spite of having put drains in.
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F. persica and imperialis have not survived long in my garden here in Central Indiana (USDA zone 5, ca. 1000 mm precip). My guess is too much water and too cold in winter.
Jim
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Hm, my persica seedlings seem ok, although not much bigger than last spring... still just one leaf.
My imperialis seem to do well. But one big bulb is missing (out of 3 in the group)... a no-show. I wonder what happened.
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After several attempts to get F. imperialis to grow in the garden I'm very happing to have them back for a third season. Each bulb is now two but they are short and they don't have many flower buds. How can I improve their height and number of flowers?
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Mark I would say they are gross feeders, we throw everything at them in large amounts! When I was a child Dad used to grow them on the compost heap!
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Mark,
Imperialis doesn't usually offset very much. Two stems for each original bulb suggests they have split and may be under a little stress. How deep have you planted them?
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OOOps, and I grow mine in really poor soil.
We (well, dad) have a cow, and rabbits, and chickens and I never seem to have enough time to actually do a little bit of fertilizing.
All the goodies go to the hills, where we have a vineyard and some more land.
Also... another thing, I bought a yellow friti. in the fall, I planted it, and I have two emerging from that bulb. So that's bad???
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Think of hybrid tulips. One of the major reasons for them ceasing to flower is when they split into daughter bulbs that are too small to flower, and the usual advice (apart from feeding) is to plant deeper.
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Flowering today
Fritillaria reuteri and F. obliqua in the green house. F. eduardii and imperialis are in bud in the garden.
Poul
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F.elwesii
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in this days in flower,
Fritillaria gibbosa
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and more,
Fritillaria latifolia
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Dirk
The gibbosa is a fantastic plant - better than anything I have seen in the wild.
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Mark I would say they are gross feeders, we throw everything at them in large amounts! When I was a child Dad used to grow them on the compost heap!
so I better mulch them with leaf mould or old manure
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Imperialis doesn't usually offset very much. Two stems for each original bulb suggests they have split and may be under a little stress. How deep have you planted them?
I think about 6 inches / 15cm
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I came across hundreds of these on Xiling, but none showed any signs of flowering... They grew on rocks from 1700m up to about 2300m, it was pouring down, so I didn't walk much higher.
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Dirk
The gibbosa is a fantastic plant - better than anything I have seen in the wild.
Many thanks Arthur.
I received this plant three years ago, with every spring more blossoms appeared. Am curious for the next year.
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Feeling a bit of an eejit here. Paid £30 last august for 20 bulbs of F. pudica and now have 20 nice plants of assyriaca / uva-vulpis. From one of the mainstream mail order places. Has anybody else been similarly caught?
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I had some Iris bought as Sheila Ann Germaney that came up as Katherine Hodgkin and some Narcissus jonquilla henriquesii that turned out to be N. fernandesii. I think misidentified plants is not uncommon when buying from the larger commercial suppliers, but smaller suppliers are not immune, especially when they are supplying bulbs they've not grow themselves. You should contact the seller and give them an opportunity to correct their mistake. Unfortunately, in my case the Iris seller hasn't even acknowledged my email, let alone offered to do anything about it :(
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Dirk a fanastic gibbosa.
Fritillaria kotschyana
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and more,
Fritillaria latifolia
Dirk,
your fabulous F. gibbosa has blinded everyone to that upward facing F. latifolia!
Do they turn downwards when the flower stem elongates?
Difficult for them to be called "upside down tulips" when they're pointing up ;D
cheers
fermi
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Frilillaria tubiformis is blooming just when the snow melt, with many other plants like Crocus vernus, Scilla bifolia, Bulbocodium vernum...
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I have just enjoyed reading through the Fritillaria 2014 posts, there really are some beautiful bulbs in this Genus. I don't have many myself, but here is one I have labelled as Fritillaria sewerzowii flowering in our wet and windy conditions today.
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That's a well-flowered form , Jane.
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Dirk,
your fabulous F. gibbosa has blinded everyone to that upward facing F. latifolia!
Do they turn downwards when the flower stem elongates?
Difficult for them to be called "upside down tulips" when they're pointing up ;D
cheers
fermi
Fermi,
if the plants become a little higher, then the blossom hangs down to point then as a seedpod again still on top.
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Thanks Maggi :)
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I had some Iris bought as Sheila Ann Germaney that came up as Katherine Hodgkin and some Narcissus jonquilla henriquesii that turned out to be N. fernandesii. I think misidentified plants is not uncommon when buying from the larger commercial suppliers, but smaller suppliers are not immune, especially when they are supplying bulbs they've not grow themselves. You should contact the seller and give them an opportunity to correct their mistake. Unfortunately, in my case the Iris seller hasn't even acknowledged my email, let alone offered to do anything about it :(
Many of my Crocus flowering this year were not as ordered
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I have 14 Frit imperialis bulbs but only 8 are flowering. One has broken down in to 4 bulbs
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Just.... imperialis. I need to get some red ones.
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Strange floriferous form of F. imperialis growing in my garden
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My goodness - that looks like two or even three stems in fasciation. Some of the other plants look to have extra flowers too.
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Wonderful imperialis great to see.
Three somewhat smaller ones
Fritillaria whittallii
Fritillaria liliacea
Fritillaria drenovskyi
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I got this as a seedling from a friend a few years ago and it has flowered this year. But I can't find the label. I have looked through Kevin Platts book but it hasn't given me an answer. Can anyone id it for me please?
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F. affinis tristulis ( some use F. lanceolata tristulis ) Christine - a great plant with the most sinsister appearance. :D
Best we've done with it would be around nine flowers on each stem - we had a Forrest Medal once with a rather nice pot of it.
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Thanks Maggi I'll put a label in right away! Got it from Sue as she can't grow them in her clay. It certainly does look sinister...
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It took 9 years to flower from seed but here is F. purdyi
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Well worth the wait
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Spot the frit
Fritillaria pallidiflora
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Here are two colour variants of Fritillaria pyrenaica -
The (nearly) yellow one and the 'normal' darker one (with special guest)
Gerd
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Here are two colour variants of Fritillaria pyrenaica -
The (nearly) yellow one and the 'normal' darker one (with special guest)
Gerd
With a dreaded lily beetle in full view >:(
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With a dreaded lily beetle in full view >:(
.... posing for this pic and adding some colour was its last performance! ;)
Gerd
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I'm in Tajikistan at the moment in search of Anemone.
This morning we arrived to an area where many hundreds of Fritillaria eduardii are in their best now, growing on very high cliffs,
Luckily most of the population grows high enough to escape the kids that pick and sell them along the roads.
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Look forward to hearing more about your trip!
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The beginning of fritillaria season he
1. Fritillaria serpenticola
2,3 Fritillaria tubiformis moggridgei
4. Fritillaria caucasica
5. Fritillaria minuta
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Some more.
1. Fritillaria euboica
2. Fritillaria yuminensis from Susan Band (Thanks, such a pleasure!)
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Beautiful frits Oleg. Do you have snow reliably before temperatures really drop in late autumn, to prevent freezing of these delicate bulbs?
Fascinating pictures Oron; thank you. F. eduardii is very striking, and it's great to see it 'at home' and still in abundance despite picking.
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Thank you, Ashly. Yes, we do usually have snow before severe frost in autumn. Unfortunately, it is not enough to grow American species.
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I had some Iris bought as Sheila Ann Germaney that came up as Katherine Hodgkin and some Narcissus jonquilla henriquesii that turned out to be N. fernandesii. I think misidentified plants is not uncommon when buying from the larger commercial suppliers, but smaller suppliers are not immune, especially when they are supplying bulbs they've not grow themselves. You should contact the seller and give them an opportunity to correct their mistake. Unfortunately, in my case the Iris seller hasn't even acknowledged my email, let alone offered to do anything about it :(
For info .. it was Van Meuwen, I got the refund plus, with a wee bit of persistence, a £20 voucher.
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Fritillaria messanensis in the Rhodopes peninsula (Creta).
Hard to find with flowers because the area is heavily overgrazed
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A nice form of Fritillaria acmopetala grown from exchange seed. The label says Martha Roderick ???
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As you say, Roma, nice enough F. acmopetala but not much like F. biflora 'Martha Roderick'
On the bright side, the acmopetala will not smell half as bad as the 'Martha Roderick' would !
I think that it was Wayne Roderick himself who named that frit after his mother - I always thought it was an odd choice for that. :-\
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As Ian wrote in 2003 : Fritillaria 'Martha Roderick' is, at about 20cm high, a short form of F. biflora or is it, as has also been suggested, a hybrid with F purdyi. We also grow a form of F. biflora that has very similar flowers but it is twice the height.
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Fritillaria from the garden today.
Fritillaria pallidiflora
Fritillaria meleagris flora plena
Fritillaria meleagris
Thorkild - DK
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Can any of you fritologists identify this for me? About 20cm tall, quite linear leaves. Flower 20mm long and yellow inside.
Came from seed labelled F. ehrhardtii, which it isn't.
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Looks like the delightful F. drenovskyi, Darren
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Many thanks Maggi :)
Whilst a bit annoyed it wasn't what it was supposed to be I do rather like it and it makes a nice change from the usual acmopetala/meleagris interlopers.
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F. drenovskyi is a real charmer to my mind - the two toned outers and a wonderful golden interior. Plus it was the very first Frit. that I was given by (the late) Harold Esslemont, many moons ago - I was greatly honoured by the gift.
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This little frit flowered last year for the first time from seed from NARGS 2005 as F.gussichiae but I suspect it's a dwarf form of Fritillaria graeca - anyone care to confirm?
cheers
fermi
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The next frit to flower will be Fritillaria messanensis ssp messanensis
cheers
fermi
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This little frit flowered last year for the first time from seed from NARGS 2005 as F.gussichiae but I suspect it's a dwarf form of Fritillaria graeca - anyone care to confirm?
cheers
fermi
Fermi
Very nice :)
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Fritillaria Events at Kew Gardens
Laurence Hill will be giving a talk at Kew, on 5 November 2014. He will talk about his large photographic work, ‘Fritillaria- a family portrait’, part of the current exhibition ‘Inspiring Kew’ in the Shirley Sherwood Gallery of Botanical Art. Details of the talk for the 5 November can be found on the Kew website here http://www.kew.org/visit-kew-gardens/whats-on/gallery-talk-from-laurence-hill-5-november (http://www.kew.org/visit-kew-gardens/whats-on/gallery-talk-from-laurence-hill-5-november)
Gallery Talk from Laurence Hill
5 November 2014, 2pm
Join artist Laurence Hill as he talks about his large photographic work, ‘Fritillaria- a family portrait’, part of the current exhibition in the Shirley Sherwood Gallery of Botanical Art, ‘Inspiring Kew’.
Venue: Shirley Sherwood Gallery of Botanical Art
Price: Included with entry to the Gardens, booking required due to limited space. Please contact the gallery on 0208 332 3622 or shirleysherwoodgallery@kew.org to book a place.
Further details of the exhibitions in the Shirley Sherwood Gallery can be found here: http://www.kew.org/visit-kew-gardens/whats-on/inspiring-kew (http://www.kew.org/visit-kew-gardens/whats-on/inspiring-kew)
Laurence Hill does, of course, have his own exceptional website sharing his work on Fritillaria at http://www.fritillariaicones.com/ (http://www.fritillariaicones.com/)
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Fritillaria imperialis - Laurence Hill
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A Fritillaria family portrait by Laurence Hill
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Fritillaria from Siberia
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Fritillaria from Siberia
The Erythroniums look great too!
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F. drenovskyi is one of my favourites too, especially today which is the 4th day of repotting - or planting where possible - my entire collections of frits, as moved from my previous garden getting on for two years ago (gosh, that long?) I have learned a painful lesson which is that frits don't like to be left in their pots without attention for that prolonged period of time, even longer for most of them as they were potted rather than planted out before. No water except from the sky, no feeding and precious little weeding, only the really obvious things like clover seedlings. Grasses have done most of the damage I think, and the continuous rain of this winter/spring. I've found that many pots are quite empty of bulbs at all, even though they came up in July-September. Very few flowered though and even some of those have gone altogether. F. drenovskyi however, seems to have flourished and even increased in number (I had 5 flowers in September) and the now dormant bulbs are looking plump and healthy. The contents of one pot of F. acmopetala have even succumbed to whatever the problems have been. So I'll never again neglect them so badly and for now, will gradually have to rebuild the collection as I love them so much.
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Photographed today
Fritillaria karelinii
Wonder why so early
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Arthur i've only discovered today and i'm speechless.
Do you grow it from seeds?
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Frit karelinii photographed Dec 22nd and Dec 31st
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Arthur,
A really nice plant. :D
Here look, in the meantime, also the first points from the earth.
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the pictures of the frits are Beautifull art600
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Steve those photoes are fantastic